Generations Voyager Brainstorm sighted at retail

Cool! I will check my local WM tomorrow. I was worried we would not see this one because of combiner wars.

Now, we just need Arcee and Chromia!

shockblast2 wrote:Cool! I will check my local WM tomorrow. I was worried we would not see this one because of combiner wars.

Now, we just need Arcee and Chromia!

Arcee and Chromia have been out in Honk Kong for a month now, they should be coming real soon.

YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
I made the news.

I'll give a full QC report once I've had time to play.

ScottyP wrote:Just grabbed Chromia off Amazon for regular retail price and Brainstorm shows up tomorrow. Just need Arcee to show up now!

Sorry, I cannot believe that. I have been looking at amazon daily looking for it for the last two weeks. The cheapest I have seen it for on there is $21. Same with Brainstorm. There is no way you picked it up on amazon at retail price.

Cobotron wrote:YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
I made the news.

I'll give a full QC report once I've had time to play.

Thanks for the info drop and the proof to back it up. I will check tomorrow at my local and report back.

Thanks brother!

Cobotron wrote:YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
I made the news.

I'll give a full QC report once I've had time to play.

Ok, but.. WATCH OUT FOR THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Just grabbed Chromia off Amazon for regular retail price and Brainstorm shows up tomorrow. Just need Arcee to show up now!

Was Chromia in stock and sold by Amazon? I only see it and Arcee listed by 3rd party sellers

I don't buy it. If they are telling the truth, then there should be no problem snipping the invoice and posting it here. The cheapest Chromia I have seen in the last three weeks was for $21 shipped.

Not that I think he is lying for sure as he could be telling the truth and they just went real quickly.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
I made the news.

I'll give a full QC report once I've had time to play.

Ok, but.. WATCH OUT FOR THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!

Whats up with the head Will?

It's pron to break off when you detach it from the big torso.
I'll be careful and let y'all know tonight.

...which means online retailers will have theirs soon. Which means my preorder will be processed soon!

shockblast2 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
I made the news.

I'll give a full QC report once I've had time to play.

Ok, but.. WATCH OUT FOR THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!

Whats up with the head Will?

There's an issue where when Arcana's head is plugged into Brainstorm's neck socket, the clip that holds it in can grip it too tightly, and if you try to pop Arcana back out, it'll shear his head off.

Mindmaster wrote:...which means online retailers will have theirs soon. Which means my preorder will be processed soon!

shockblast2 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
I made the news.

I'll give a full QC report once I've had time to play.

Ok, but.. WATCH OUT FOR THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!

Whats up with the head Will?

There's an issue where when Arcana's head is plugged into Brainstorm's neck socket, the clip that holds it in can grip it too tightly, and if you try to pop Arcana back out, it'll shear his head off.

Is there a video or pics of this anywhere? I cannot find them on google and I don't want to break mine when I get it.

Its in this thread
Peugh's review.
(spelling????)

The exact nature of the problem is simpler than you'd think. In order to remove Arcana, you must first push down a certain part of Brainstorm to "unlock" him. However, a misassembly issue (I forget where) can render that feature inoperable, locking Arcana permanently in place.

shockblast2 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:...which means online retailers will have theirs soon. Which means my preorder will be processed soon!

shockblast2 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
I made the news.

I'll give a full QC report once I've had time to play.

Ok, but.. WATCH OUT FOR THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!

Whats up with the head Will?

There's an issue where when Arcana's head is plugged into Brainstorm's neck socket, the clip that holds it in can grip it too tightly, and if you try to pop Arcana back out, it'll shear his head off.

Is there a video or pics of this anywhere? I cannot find them on google and I don't want to break mine when I get it.

I know Baltmatrix was the first to experience this issue.

shockblast2 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Just grabbed Chromia off Amazon for regular retail price and Brainstorm shows up tomorrow. Just need Arcee to show up now!

Was Chromia in stock and sold by Amazon? I only see it and Arcee listed by 3rd party sellers

I don't buy it. If they are telling the truth, then there should be no problem snipping the invoice and posting it here. The cheapest Chromia I have seen in the last three weeks was for $21 shipped.

Not that I think he is lying for sure as he could be telling the truth and they just went real quickly.

It's the latter. It was regular retail price when scotty posted, and sold directly from amazon. It sold out, and now is only available from third party sellers at inflated prices.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Just grabbed Chromia off Amazon for regular retail price and Brainstorm shows up tomorrow. Just need Arcee to show up now!

Was Chromia in stock and sold by Amazon? I only see it and Arcee listed by 3rd party sellers

I don't buy it. If they are telling the truth, then there should be no problem snipping the invoice and posting it here. The cheapest Chromia I have seen in the last three weeks was for $21 shipped.

Not that I think he is lying for sure as he could be telling the truth and they just went real quickly.

It's the latter. It was regular retail price when scotty posted, and sold directly from amazon. It sold out, and now is only available from third party sellers at inflated prices.

When I searched an hour ago it was showing it @16.99, but when I refreshed right after that, it was $21, so I thought it was a glitch.

Even if Scotty got it at $16.99, that is not retail. $14.99 is retail.

Did you see the same thing I did?

shockblast2 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Just grabbed Chromia off Amazon for regular retail price and Brainstorm shows up tomorrow. Just need Arcee to show up now!

Was Chromia in stock and sold by Amazon? I only see it and Arcee listed by 3rd party sellers

I don't buy it. If they are telling the truth, then there should be no problem snipping the invoice and posting it here. The cheapest Chromia I have seen in the last three weeks was for $21 shipped.

Not that I think he is lying for sure as he could be telling the truth and they just went real quickly.

It's the latter. It was regular retail price when scotty posted, and sold directly from amazon. It sold out, and now is only available from third party sellers at inflated prices.

When I searched an hour ago it was showing it @16.99, but when I refreshed right after that, it was $21, so I thought it was a glitch.

Even if Scotty got it at $16.99, that is not retail. $14.99 is retail.

Did you see the same thing I did?

17's normal retail, also no it was about an hour later that it changed for me.

roadbuster & skybyte just started showing up around here so i wont be seeing this guy for a while or at all, stores around here suck at restocking during & after the holidays.

shockblast2 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Just grabbed Chromia off Amazon for regular retail price and Brainstorm shows up tomorrow. Just need Arcee to show up now!

Was Chromia in stock and sold by Amazon? I only see it and Arcee listed by 3rd party sellers

I don't buy it. If they are telling the truth, then there should be no problem snipping the invoice and posting it here. The cheapest Chromia I have seen in the last three weeks was for $21 shipped.

Not that I think he is lying for sure as he could be telling the truth and they just went real quickly.

It's the latter. It was regular retail price when scotty posted, and sold directly from amazon. It sold out, and now is only available from third party sellers at inflated prices.

When I searched an hour ago it was showing it @16.99, but when I refreshed right after that, it was $21, so I thought it was a glitch.

Even if Scotty got it at $16.99, that is not retail. $14.99 is retail.

Did you see the same thing I did?

I just checked camel tracker and they don't have any record of Amazon having the figure in stock

shockblast2 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Just grabbed Chromia off Amazon for regular retail price and Brainstorm shows up tomorrow. Just need Arcee to show up now!

Was Chromia in stock and sold by Amazon? I only see it and Arcee listed by 3rd party sellers

I don't buy it. If they are telling the truth, then there should be no problem snipping the invoice and posting it here. The cheapest Chromia I have seen in the last three weeks was for $21 shipped.

Not that I think he is lying for sure as he could be telling the truth and they just went real quickly.

It's the latter. It was regular retail price when scotty posted, and sold directly from amazon. It sold out, and now is only available from third party sellers at inflated prices.

When I searched an hour ago it was showing it @16.99, but when I refreshed right after that, it was $21, so I thought it was a glitch.

Even if Scotty got it at $16.99, that is not retail. $14.99 is retail.

Did you see the same thing I did?

Actually, it depends on the retailer. And even different stores within a chain have different prices. A few of my local Targets have Generations Deluxes at $16.99 while other Targets have the normal $14.99. Some WalMarts in my area are the same as well. One in particular still has the $9.97 as a price, while others are at $14.99. Very odd.

Cobotron wrote:YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!
I made the news.

I'll give a full QC report once I've had time to play.

Lobotron, you lucky dog! Enjoy the spoils of the hunt, friend.

For a good laugh, read the managers name on the receipt.

Cobotron wrote:For a good laugh, read the managers name on the receipt.

that... cant be foreal....

Tranzilla wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Just grabbed Chromia off Amazon for regular retail price and Brainstorm shows up tomorrow. Just need Arcee to show up now!

Was Chromia in stock and sold by Amazon? I only see it and Arcee listed by 3rd party sellers

I don't buy it. If they are telling the truth, then there should be no problem snipping the invoice and posting it here. The cheapest Chromia I have seen in the last three weeks was for $21 shipped.

Not that I think he is lying for sure as he could be telling the truth and they just went real quickly.

It's the latter. It was regular retail price when scotty posted, and sold directly from amazon. It sold out, and now is only available from third party sellers at inflated prices.

When I searched an hour ago it was showing it @16.99, but when I refreshed right after that, it was $21, so I thought it was a glitch.

Even if Scotty got it at $16.99, that is not retail. $14.99 is retail.

Did you see the same thing I did?

Actually, it depends on the retailer. And even different stores within a chain have different prices. A few of my local Targets have Generations Deluxes at $16.99 while other Targets have the normal $14.99. Some WalMarts in my area are the same as well. One in particular still has the $9.97 as a price, while others are at $14.99. Very odd.

My K-mart has deluxes at $17.99.

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:For a good laugh, read the managers name on the receipt.

that... cant be foreal....

Looks like somebody put their stage name on the applcation.

Anyone seeing Gears or Acid Storm yet? I figured I'd be seeing those before Brainstorm and the femmebots.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone seeing Gears or Acid Storm yet? I figured I'd be seeing those before Brainstorm and the femmebots.

targets up here in canada have them.

shajaki wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone seeing Gears or Acid Storm yet? I figured I'd be seeing those before Brainstorm and the femmebots.

targets up here in canada have them.

They've been here in portland for a month and a half now. Really uprising considering distribution's pretty poor in the city, seeing as there are very very few toy stores where I live. Most of them are in BFE.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

shajaki wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone seeing Gears or Acid Storm yet? I figured I'd be seeing those before Brainstorm and the femmebots.

targets up here in canada have them.

They've been here in portland for a month and a half now. Really uprising considering distribution's pretty poor in the city, seeing as there are very very few toy stores where I live. Most of them are in BFE.

I can just see it, the uprising of the generations Legends figures; taking over the store and annihilating everything in their path!

william-james88 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

shajaki wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone seeing Gears or Acid Storm yet? I figured I'd be seeing those before Brainstorm and the femmebots.

targets up here in canada have them.

They've been here in portland for a month and a half now. Really uprising considering distribution's pretty poor in the city, seeing as there are very very few toy stores where I live. Most of them are in BFE.

I can just see it, the uprising of the generations Legends figures; taking over the store and annihilating everything in their path!

I haven't seen these guys at all, anywhere.

william-james88 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

shajaki wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone seeing Gears or Acid Storm yet? I figured I'd be seeing those before Brainstorm and the femmebots.

targets up here in canada have them.

They've been here in portland for a month and a half now. Really uprising considering distribution's pretty poor in the city, seeing as there are very very few toy stores where I live. Most of them are in BFE.

I can just see it, the uprising of the generations Legends figures; taking over the store and annihilating everything in their path!

May have been a typo, but fitting, there are a whooooole bunch of them clogging shelves here.

I saw Gears and Acid Storm at my Target... I guess about a month ago? AC seemed to hang around longer than Gears.
Then there was nothing, and then loads of Swerves and Cosmoses. Haven't been there for a few weeks, though I suspect there'd be a lot of Swerves; he didn't do so well last time.


But never Skrapnel, so I had to get him online.

(no Tailgate, either, but I'm not interested in him)

I really hope the Legends do better in 'Combiner Wars'. Trying to find the ones I wanted has been such a bother.
At least the one I really want (Bombshell) is in the 1st wave, that should be easy to get. Hopefully.

This cant replace FP Smart Robin, but at 20 bucks Ill pick him up just for fun. But I might skip Hasbro Arcee and Chromia altogether, as it seems like Takara versions are coming a lot sooner than anticipated.

Maybe he was poorly assembled at the factory as has been speculated, but I think it's worse than that. Brainstorm's Headmaster gimmick failure, is a tragedy of bad engineering and tooling. I'll give you my best analyses and remedy, but first...

Let's start with the positives

Look at this beautiful little star fighter! It is a super sleek sci-fi space ship. So cool. So reminiscent of so many classic star fighter designs. This dog fighter would fit right in flying formation with Luke's X-Wing and Apollo's Viper. Such a great homage to the the original toys alt mode. And, how many other TFs come with a lil dude to pilot them.
His robot arms are a little clunky in alt mode and his feet and legs stick out oddly in the back, but I'm willing to look past it while he is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeuuuusscchhhhhh, ZOUT ZOUT ZOUT ZOUT, FEEEUUUUSH ... all around the house, Seeker seeking.

Transformation is fast, fun, and easy.

Then you get THIS GUY! Do I even have to say anything?
Look at'im! He's perfect!
That color is cooler than an ice cold Gatorade with 3 popsicles crammed in it. He's a double fisted lazOr slingin' Space Ranger.
Spot on IDW, an awesome modernization of the OG toy. He's a NeoClassic dream come true.
HI FIVE!!!!!


The NEGATIVES...
Let's start simple. He feels fragile. Another victim of flimsy plastic. His wrists are dangly. His seams gape. His paint apps are sloppy. And poor Arcana. My 3 year old could have done a cooler paint job.

What's up with the HEAD GIMMICK?
Note the hollow groove or slot inside his neck. They are on either side of the neck socket.
the piece in front is the spring-loaded lock mechanism.

the grooves accept these nubs or pegs on either side of Arcana's head. That jutting rectangle in the back of his head, has a slot to accept the lock.

The grooves and the lock are miss aligned, and the nubs on Arcana's head are too thick to fit through the space before the grooves, making a super tight fit, before the pressure on the nubs is relieved, by the grooves.
With me?
Once you push the head in, it falls in too far and the lock closes, too far over the slot.
Recap: 2 things.
1. There is too much pressure on the nubs, making it realy hard to get in and out.
2. The head falls too far in the neck socket, and the lock closes too far over the slot housing. making it even harder to get out.

Pulling it out is the hard part, and where you could break the head off of Arcana.
The ball joint on his neck is where people have been breaking Arcana. The ball is screwed on to a post that is attached to his head. Too much pressure, and the screw strips out of the post.
I had to pull super hard on that sucker. I was scared.
I got lucky.

The ball popped out of the socket instead of stripping, But then getting the head out was even harder with nothing for leverage.

What I suggest.
Once you super carefully get Arcana detached, take an Xacto knife and shave along the contour of the curve at the top of the grooves.

I shaved about 3 times on each side, still to tight. 3 more and it was OK. you'll just have to play with it until it feels right.

I also suggest you watch these two video reviews before attempting anything. In this order.
Baltmatrix

Peaugh's


Despite this problem, I REALLY LIKE THIS TOY.
Good luck y'all.
I'm tired.
Good night.

megatronus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

shajaki wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Anyone seeing Gears or Acid Storm yet? I figured I'd be seeing those before Brainstorm and the femmebots.

targets up here in canada have them.

They've been here in portland for a month and a half now. Really uprising considering distribution's pretty poor in the city, seeing as there are very very few toy stores where I live. Most of them are in BFE.

I can just see it, the uprising of the generations Legends figures; taking over the store and annihilating everything in their path!

I haven't seen these guys at all, anywhere.

That's because they rose up and lead the other Transformers to freedom!

Seriously though, I hope you find them soon.

the walmart in fremont nebraska had some age of extinction stuff both wasp and rat-trap, crosscut, Jhiaxus i think , and a few others i cant remember at the top of my head

Autobot tap out wrote:the walmart in fremont nebraska had some age of extinction stuff both wasp and rat-trap, crosscut, Jhiaxus i think , and a few others i cant remember at the top of my head

This kind of post is better to be done in the Toy Sightings forum. Like that you can inform people in your specific region where they can find certain toys. Because or else there wold be too many posts here. Feel free to read the first post in this forum for more specific guidelines. This specific thread only puts up the news of when something new is found to let other know it's coming their way.

Arctorro wrote:That's because they rose up and lead the other Transformers to freedom!

Seriously though, I hope you find them soon.

They'll show up eventually. Who knows, they might be on nearby Target pegs as we speak...

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot tap out wrote:the walmart in fremont nebraska had some age of extinction stuff both wasp and rat-trap, crosscut, Jhiaxus i think , and a few others i cant remember at the top of my head

This kind of post is better to be done in the Toy Sightings forum. Like that you can inform people in your specific region where they can find certain toys. Because or else there wold be too many posts here. Feel free to read the first post in this forum for more specific guidelines. This specific thread only puts up the news of when something new is found to let other know it's coming their way.

figured

I wonder if these have made their way to Des Moines...may have to do some hunting this afternoon. I had missed out on the Hasbro Toy shop pre-order and ended cancelling my BBTS preorder, so I will be tickled pink if I can find this at retail!

Cobotron wrote:*snip*

thanks for the detailed description of your brainstorm debacle!
*edit* i was going to say BS debacle

its a real shame that this appears to be widespread. im glad you didnt suffer any breakages

jogunwarrior wrote:I wonder if these have made their way to Des Moines...may have to do some hunting this afternoon. I had missed out on the Hasbro Toy shop pre-order and ended cancelling my BBTS preorder, so I will be tickled pink if I can find this at retail!

It's funny. I live in Omaha, which is 4 or 5 times bigger than Council Bluffs. They sit across the river from one another. The Wal-Mart where I found Brainstorm always has everything a month or two before any retail chain in Omaha. I just don't get the shipping routes. One would think that logistically, after Council Bluffs, Omaha would be the next stop.

I also thought I would for sure find Gears and Acidstorm before Brainstorm.

Good luck on your hunt jogun.

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:*snip*

thanks for the detailed description of your brainstorm debacle!
*edit* i was going to say BS debacle

its a real shame that this appears to be widespread. im glad you didnt suffer any breakages

Well it is BS.
I wonder if the Takara version will have fixed this issue. Might be worth waiting to see.
Plus, as always, the Tak version's paint looks a lot sweeter.

Cobotron wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:*snip*

thanks for the detailed description of your brainstorm debacle!
*edit* i was going to say BS debacle

its a real shame that this appears to be widespread. im glad you didnt suffer any breakages

Well it is BS.
I wonder if the Takara version will have fixed this issue. Might be worth waiting to see.
Plus, as always, the Tak version's paint looks a lot sweeter.

But apparently, less IDW based than the Hasbro one.

It's really a shame that Brainstorm has the issues he does. Without them he'd be darn near perfect.

I am a transformers fan for the toys mostly. Aside from the main shows, I am not too much into the fiction of it, so I rarely look at the bios. BUT this one kinda throws me for a loop. Its not that it's confusing, but Rattrap is one of the most important characters in the fiction I grew up with and his bio spends more time talking about literal trash than anything beast wars. Am I the only one who's upset with this bio?

Such is the curse of trilingual packaging and the resulting shortened bios.

Delta Magnus wrote:Such is the curse of trilingual packaging and the resulting shortened bios.

No, I'm certain the English one had the same exact wording. I specifically remember the last line from my own Rattrap.

Maybe this bio is for the IDW Comics Rattrap, the one with all those Generations characters interacting with each other.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Maybe this bio is for the IDW Comics Rattrap, the one with all those Generations characters interacting with each other.

But is he a maximal or autobot in that series? Because he's a maximal in the packaging.