Gallery and Video for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Display at #SDCC2018 #HasbroSDCC

I am loving that new Ironhide. Everyone looks fantastic but there are some needs and wants(though "need" technically leans towards "want"). Prime, Sideswipe, and Ironhide are needs because I don't have any version of them yet for CHUG. Wants are Ultra Magnus, but I have the CW Leader, Hound, but I have the Universe Deluxe. Everyone is a want though. I love everything here and this line shows that Hasbro DOES listen to the fans, and loves them too.

BTW, weapons-oriented gimmicks are definitely fine with me. I prefer it actually.

Okay...I'm going back on what I said earlier but ironhide as won me over, I love his hammer. Hound is making me reconsider as well...still want to know if you could put magnus armour on prime...

I need that Magnus in my life.

White Cab, that is not a repaint of Optimus + Armor / Trailer.

At least Ironhide is suitably Cybertronian.

I’m not sure about all the greebling, especially on Mags. Still looks like a great line on the whole, though.

ZeroWolf wrote:still want to know if you could put magnus armour on prime...

I'm going to say that is a no. Look at the arms. The armor slides over UM's arms. Prime arms have truck kibble that would be in the way.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:still want to know if you could put magnus armour on prime...

I'm going to say that is a no. Look at the arms. The armor slides over UM's arms. Prime arms have truck kibble that would be in the way.

Aww, that's a shame as that would have been quite fun and enhanced playability between the two. Especially since it looks like the white cab started life as the op mold before the changes were done to make the rid2001 alt

o.supreme wrote:So...who wants to translate the Cybertronian (or is it Japanese...I cant tell...) on Stakeout's Car Door, being so obvious this time around, I would hope it would not be something offensive to some, or at least it could be caught in time for Hasbro to make the change...

I think it says Trump 2020

jk it says Police

ZeroWolf wrote:Okay...I'm going back on what I said earlier but ironhide as won me over, I love his hammer. Hound is making me reconsider as well...still want to know if you could put magnus armour on prime...

I highly doubt that since voyager optimus is a very different mold from the smallr inner white prime.

-Crossfire- wrote:Lionizer: He's back! Is he packed with anyone, or is seperate like Firedrive?

Seperate like Firedrive

Still waiting for some Cons, otherwise it isn't going to be much of a war (unless it is going to be an Autobot Civil Wa)

mordhelm wrote:Where is the confirmation that she does not combine?

o.supreme wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Bad News....I'm not seeing a 5mm on the front bumper, pretty sure Chromia is not a combiner component .

william-james88 wrote:This is what Hasbro said at the panel:

Removing the gimmick element Prime Wars moved into paying attention to the characters, in terms of pose ability, articulation and more in the engineering, as the weaponizing element of Micro and Battle Masters allow for playability.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:She is. But it doesn't make up for all the sacrifices that Elita-1's design had to make in order to combine. Just so that they could give us a Chromia, from a combining mold, that doesn't combine. It feels like a decision made with malice....

Trust me, as probably the biggest fan of combiners here, I get the sentiment. But I don't know if it was done with malice, it seems often there are so many "cooks in the kitchen", things easily get overlooked.

Developer: OK we want to recreate the pair Ironhide & Chromia.
Developer 2: -OK we have a great fembot mold,but we aren't doing combiners for this line so we just have to remove that.

I don't know...I know it goes against Hasbro's MO for the past several lines, especially since there was bleeding over form T30 into CW, and every line after that. One would think it would require more effort to remove the Combiner functionality, but who knows...Even if the 5MM holes are gone, if that Combiner Port is still there (which it probably isn't), I'm definitely going to try to find a way to alter Chromia to make her a limb .



Now I have a question of my own....Does anyone think this line will have a Titan, if so what should it be....

Bucky wrote: On a side note, now I’m wondering if William-James and company has ever done a top five list for best/worst gimmicks.

We did Top 5 Best https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/35702/

As for Top 5 worst, I dont really think the gimmicks are bad themselves its just that they are poorly executed on some toys.

o.supreme wrote:

mordhelm wrote:Where is the confirmation that she does not combine?

o.supreme wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Bad News....I'm not seeing a 5mm on the front bumper, pretty sure Chromia is not a combiner component .

william-james88 wrote:This is what Hasbro said at the panel:

Removing the gimmick element Prime Wars moved into paying attention to the characters, in terms of pose ability, articulation and more in the engineering, as the weaponizing element of Micro and Battle Masters allow for playability.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:She is. But it doesn't make up for all the sacrifices that Elita-1's design had to make in order to combine. Just so that they could give us a Chromia, from a combining mold, that doesn't combine. It feels like a decision made with malice....

Trust me, as probably the biggest fan of combiners here, I get the sentiment. But I don't know if it was done with malice, it seems often there are so many "cooks in the kitchen", things easily get overlooked.

Developer: OK we want to recreate the pair Ironhide & Chromia.
Developer 2: -OK we have a great fembot mold,but we aren't doing combiners for this line so we just have to remove that.

I don't know...I know it goes against Hasbro's MO for the past several lines, especially since there was bleeding over form T30 into CW, and every line after that. One would think it would require more effort to remove the Combiner functionality, but who knows...Even if the 5MM holes are gone, if that Combiner Port is still there (which it probably isn't), I'm definitely going to try to find a way to alter Chromia to make her a limb .



Now I have a question of my own....Does anyone think this line will have a Titan, if so what should it be....

I think this titan should be omega supreme, complete the devey/omega rivalry and then in the second part of wfc, give us scorpy.

As for chromia...couldn't you just get a spare moonracer or nova star and do a head swap and a nice new paint job?

Still not really a fan of any of these. I don't mind the aesthetic with all that detailing and such, it's just there aren't really many characters here I've ever had much interest in and those vehicle modes are mostly just too blocky for me. Oddly my fave bit is those transparent bits used to make the weapons look like they're firing. I've always liked that kind of thing on action figures and occasionally made some crappy attempts at my own addons for my TFs.

Yeah mine look crappy but you get the idea.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think this titan should be omega supreme, complete the devey/omega rivalry and then in the second part of wfc, give us scorpy.

As for chromia...couldn't you just get a spare moonracer or nova star and do a head swap and a nice new paint job?

That could be a way to go...I'm not really a talented painter however so I'd have to commission it. Also 100% Agreed on who the Titan should be, for obvious reasons (also it fits especially with the Cybertron setting)...as to whether we'll get one or not...that remains to be seen.

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think this titan should be omega supreme, complete the devey/omega rivalry and then in the second part of wfc, give us scorpy.

As for chromia...couldn't you just get a spare moonracer or nova star and do a head swap and a nice new paint job?

That could be a way to go...I'm not really a talented painter however so I'd have to commission it. Also 100% Agreed on who the Titan should be, for obvious reasons (also it fits especially with the Cybertron setting)...as to whether we'll get one or not...that remains to be seen.

I wonder if there would be a way to just kit bash a combiner port back into Chromia and forgo having to paint anything?

OF course that would all depend on if you could find a spare Moonracer.

Loving this line.

I'm especially fond of the RiD-esque Ultra Magnus (probably "THE" Ultra Magnus, speaking of IDW comics continuity) and Cog, which might transform into some weaponry for Fortress Maximus (and if that is the case, I want a Sixguns for Metroplex too).

I also like the new Micromasters.

Easy passes for me on half of them. Liking the RID look Ultra Magnus but not sure if it can carry cars. Haven't picked up a Chromia yet, so that might be a purchase down the line tho it's between her and hound that are the worst looking of the line so far to me.
Cogs the one must for me so far.

I wouldn't mind if the Titans of this line are completely made up/purpose deigned bases/toys for the micromasters.

Just to give the names of the micromasters and show their combined forms

Two of them look good, but the Race Patrol is just two cars stuck on top of each others. Ugly.

As a friendly reminder to everyone in this thread, I before E except for C.

Sabrblade wrote:As a friendly reminder to everyone in this thread, I before E except for C.

Eighty feisty, ableit dreich, reigning sovereign sheikhs' heirs, deifing society, inveigled a weird foreign leisurely scientist's fanciest eight rottweilers to forfeit sufficient obeisance, veiling a heinous seismic gneiss vein heist, wherein they abseiled heights of neighboring ancient lithofacies, heigh-ho-ing their weighty freight with beige greige skeins, later efficiently surfeiting on stupefacient codeine.

But yeah Siege...

Sabrblade wrote:As a friendly reminder to everyone in this thread, I before E except for C.

Also a friendly reminder that English is a Bastard language, used by Bastards...

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category ... ter_C_rule

So far, I'm pretty please by most EVERYTHING in this line. That's not happening often.

Maybe it's the already blocky shapes, maybe it's the military design or maybe it's the complimentary color scheme but the Military Patrol looks damn solid in weapon mode. They really do.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:As a friendly reminder to everyone in this thread, I before E except for C.

But yeah Siege...

At least it's not "Rouge One".

I think these will be the Transformers I will introduce to my son. I'll be getting that Car Robots/G1 Ultra Magnus for myself, though. That joint is

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:As a friendly reminder to everyone in this thread, I before E except for C.

But yeah Siege...

At least it's not "Rouge One".

Yeah I never understood that misspelling, but I guess it's because I've seen Rogue spelled in print so often.

But I can understand the other, especially since the name of this site is based the Romanization of the Japanese spelling of Cybertron .

Also just curious, Don't most browsers spell check before posting in this forum? I know when I post from here using Explorer or Chrome it does...Of course it would not catch grammatically if you misspelled one word for another. Also I guess I'm not accounting for tablets or phones, which I almost never use when looking on this site.

Since the revelation of the WFC Siege armor UM was first shown, my excitement and rational thinking hasn't stop. I am so full of exuberant and still can't believe that after all these 32 years, it finally happens. Hasbro finally deliver an armor UM before Takara-Tomy who failed me with the Masterpiece Line/MP22 (love the figure, but lack of a white Magnus, agrr). While we are waiting WFC UM to get release, here's a reminder for all the Armor UM fans:

o.supreme wrote:Also just curious, Don't most browsers spell check before posting in this forum? I know when I post from here using Explorer or Chrome it does...Of course it would not catch grammatically if you misspelled one word for another. Also I guess I'm not accounting for tablets or phones, which I almost never use when looking on this site.

You give AI too much credit. The computer can spell words "correctly" but it will NEVER care about the context. Unless you run the text through a quality expensive software, you will only get auto-corrected randomly.

BTW, when I post from my phone, which is set in FRENCH, the auto-correct keep trolling me.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:As a friendly reminder to everyone in this thread, I before E except for C.

Eighty feisty, ableit dreich, reigning sovereign sheikhs' heirs, deifing society, inveigled a weird foreign leisurely scientist's fanciest eight rottweilers to forfeit sufficient obeisance, veiling a heinous seismic gneiss vein heist, wherein they abseiled heights of neighboring ancient lithofacies, heigh-ho-ing their weighty freight with beige greige skeins, later efficiently surfeiting on stupefacient codeine.

But yeah Siege...

Read that in a parody Scots Accent. Totally worth it

That Chromia is an easy pass for me, especially if she indeed has no combiner functionality. The "greebling" on her is just extreme. Ultra Magnus is pretty bad in that regard too. They both look like they soaked too long in the tub and are pruning really badly. The rest of the bots look fine, with just the right amount of tech detailing in their sculpts without it looking ridiculous. Someone just went overboard when sculpting poor Chromia.

REMINATOR wrote:Since the revelation of the WFC Siege armor UM was first shown, my excitement and rational thinking hasn't stop. I am so full of exuberant and still can't believe that after all these 32 years, it finally happens. Hasbro finally deliver an armor UM before Takara-Tomy who failed me with the Masterpiece Line/MP22 (love the figure, but lack of a white Magnus, agrr). While we are waiting WFC UM to get release, here's a reminder for all the Armor UM fans:

First off, love the animated picture, kudos to whoever the artist is.

Secondly, by the time masterpiece um came around, couldn't that be seen as the start of animation first? I mean it is animation accurate isn't it? White prime is toy only.

Now I'll echo sentiments about the combined forms of the micromasters. The military patrol are the clear winners here, followed by the rescue patrol. As for the street patrol...may just have to head canon them into shields and place them accordingly...or just not combine them.

Wow, looking at Chroma's speeder mode from the back, that's just lazy. Like the designers just gave up halfway through. Sad.

I know a lot of people have said this (including myself) but where are the Decepticons . Does anybody have any ideas or answers on where they are.

looks like i'm going to decommission my Universe Ironhide from my shelf

Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I know a lot of people have said this (including myself) but where are the Decepticons . Does anybody have any ideas or answers on where they are.

Part of me hopes that they haven't shown any Cons yet because the reveals are going to be super surprising and unexpected, like new characters or updates to non-G1 characters who have historically had Cybertronian-looking alt modes like, I dunno, um...like BM Vehicons, or something, but since we all know Warden refuses to admit characters that aren't from G1/named after someone from G1 exist, it really probably just means that they wanted to show the Autobots first because they're the good guys, and everyone is supposed to love them, and the Cons either aren't finalized yet or are going to get a Con-only reveal like this one at a later juncture, like NYCC.

Or maybe they just forgot, I dunno. I just want to see the Cons too, at this point.

I'm mixed so far. Really psyched about some stuff (proper micromasters!), confused about others (G1 Mag with RID truck?), and upset about some (Chromia specifically NOT a combiner limb).

shajaki wrote:I'm mixed so far. Really psyched about some stuff (proper micromasters!), confused about others (G1 Mag with RID truck?), and upset about some (Chromia specifically NOT a combiner limb).

Ditto exept for Magnus. I think it's a BRILLIANT move to mix G1 Magnus while hommaging the RID vehicle. This is one leader that I think I will NOT wait for a sale to happen before buying.


As for any reveals, Apeface and Snapdragon should be obvious at this point. Even if the headmasters would be Micromaster sized. In fact, it would be just PERFECT. Plus the horrorcons do have "cybertronian" vehicle modes.

-Kanrabat- wrote:As for any reveals,

I was going to mention.... who exactly are they at siege with? I don't see anyone but Autobots. Maybe this is what it should be called

I'd almost guarantee Tetra Jets are coming.


FOR YOU!!!!

Cobotron wrote:I'd almost guarantee Tetra Jets are coming.


FOR YOU!!!!

At some point you figure they gotta give us those..I've wanted those since I first saw them in animation...but, I've gotten used to disappointment.

DISCHARGE wrote:At some point you figure they gotta give us those..I've wanted those since I first saw them in animation...but, I've gotten used to disappointment.

Yeah, the closest we've gotten to them were the Titanium releases of the seekers back in the day.

The more I think about it, the more I'm looking forward to getting that Magnus. As far as I can tell, the combined robot mode is spot on.

I also think the lack of only serves to get us worked up for them. This could backfire on Hasbro if the figures turn out to be garbage.

Since there are so many chickbots, would it be much of a stretch to get one retooled as Nightbird? Even though IIRC she was never on Cybertron before they came to Earth.

The titaniums were ok..but not what I wanted.

I'm hoping we will get a wheeljack from the ironhide mold

I get where people are coming from with Chromia, but it makes sense why Hasbro are going that way.

This is an all new "trilogy". The previous one started with Combiner Wars and carried through the subsequent two lines. It's had it's run.

This is a new start, so new (rehashed) gimmicks are called for.

I only want to know two things, story line wise is this connected to G1/Prime Wars (I'm hoping it is set post Prime Wars) and where the heck are the 'Cons?

Setting it post Prime Wars and having Optimal Optimus fail as a leader works for me, and the lack of 'Cons may be because whoever has Cybertron under siege is in fact an entirely new party with only a handful of 'Cons (the core group - Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream etc) getting figures.

After listening to what John Warden talks about in this video,




I think the storyline the Hasbro team is going for is the war at home on Cybertron, before they left for Earth.
Just like the video game. Warden talks a lot about evoking the feeling of the '84 pilot episode.

Hence why I suspect they will do the Tetra Jet style Seekers.

Cobotron wrote:After listening to what John Warden talks about in this video,




I think the storyline the Hasbro team is going for is the war at home on Cybertron, before they left for Earth.
Just like the video game. Warden talks a lot about evoking the feeling of the '84 pilot episode.

Hence why I suspect they will do the Tetra Jet style Seekers.

One of the stills in the video shows tetra jets..I'm assuming the 30 + year wait is coming to an end

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I know a lot of people have said this (including myself) but where are the Decepticons . Does anybody have any ideas or answers on where they are.

Part of me hopes that they haven't shown any Cons yet because the reveals are going to be super surprising and unexpected, like new characters or updates to non-G1 characters who have historically had Cybertronian-looking alt modes like, I dunno, um...like BM Vehicons, or something, but since we all know Warden refuses to admit characters that aren't from G1/named after someone from G1 exist, it really probably just means that they wanted to show the Autobots first because they're the good guys, and everyone is supposed to love them, and the Cons either aren't finalized yet or are going to get a Con-only reveal like this one at a later juncture, like NYCC.

Or maybe they just forgot, I dunno. I just want to see the Cons too, at this point.

BM Vehicons would be cool,but you are probably right about them wanting to show the Autobots first. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Mr.MicroMaster wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I know a lot of people have said this (including myself) but where are the Decepticons . Does anybody have any ideas or answers on where they are.

Part of me hopes that they haven't shown any Cons yet because the reveals are going to be super surprising and unexpected, like new characters or updates to non-G1 characters who have historically had Cybertronian-looking alt modes like, I dunno, um...like BM Vehicons, or something, but since we all know Warden refuses to admit characters that aren't from G1/named after someone from G1 exist, it really probably just means that they wanted to show the Autobots first because they're the good guys, and everyone is supposed to love them, and the Cons either aren't finalized yet or are going to get a Con-only reveal like this one at a later juncture, like NYCC.

Or maybe they just forgot, I dunno. I just want to see the Cons too, at this point.

BM Vehicons would be cool,but you are probably right about them wanting to show the Autobots first. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

i wonder what the titan class character will be this time? im thinking Omega Supreme he would fit right in as one of the original guardians but still i wish for Scorponok too

Sabrblade wrote:As a friendly reminder to everyone in this thread, I before E except for C.

Thanks! I corrected the spelling error.

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm wondering if there is method to hasbro madness with not showing any cons here. There's another convention in the fall isn't there?

Line launches in December and NYCC is in October, probably too late to really reveal anything from Wave 1 like Decepticon. They'll probably show them off at an overseas con or Takara Tomy might get to actually reveal something new this time around.

durroth wrote:I know we went all crosshairs repurpose on kup/orion pax when he came out, but if ever there were a toy that could be redecoed as a modern crosshairs, it's that ironhide.

You mean the Ironhide that's based on... Kup?

AcademyofDrX wrote:I love the exhaust effect on Sideswipe in the display
https://static.seibertron.com/images/to ... 18566.jpeg

But the Lionizer product image only has a single part. I can't imagine buying two of them to recreate that scene.
https://static.seibertron.com/images/to ... 18566.jpeg

I'm glad Firedrive has two of the effects parts. I'll want one on Optimus, and I can put the figure with PotP Rodimus, so that has some versatility.

Pretty sure the effect parts are going to be coming with multiple figures since they probably aren't part of the figures' molds so expect a bunch of figures to have the muzzle flash effect, maybe in different colors.

Skritz wrote:Two of them look good, but the Race Patrol is just two cars stuck on top of each others. Ugly.

They made fun of it at the Transformers panel so they're aware of how weird it looks, but they said it looks better in hand with the weapon effects attached. Would have prefered they used Tailspin since he has tiny missiles built into his shoulders they could have used in weapon mode.



Shame they confirmed they don't plan on doing the other halves of the teams right now.

Emerje

Burn wrote:I only want to know two things, story line wise is this connected to G1/Prime Wars (I'm hoping it is set post Prime Wars)

It is set towards the end of the pre-Earth portion of the war on Cybertron in the past long ago, right before the Autobots board the Ark and end up on Earth.

So if the Prime Wars Trilogy was set in the present or future, this would be set in a time long before that point, if there is to be any story connections between the two trilogies at all, that is.