G1 Concept Art by Floro Dery (Image Heavy)
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sabrblade wrote:Decepticon Hall of Heroes, shown in BG are the Earth's moon and the severed head of Unicron.
First version of Junkion spaceship, in BG is Cybertron.
From the episode "Enter the Nightbird"Temporary Decepticon base, in BG is Cybertron and two of its five moons.
First is from "Make Tracks", and I'm not sure which episode the tower is from.Shown on the left side is the Decepticon Forest Base; on the right side is the Decepticon tower on Cybertron, in BG are three of the five moons of Cybertron.
From "Blaster Blues"Decepticon lunar dome base.
First is from the discarded early draft of the G1 movie called "The Secret of Cybertron"; the second is from the final version of said movie.On the left side is Cybertron and its robot mode.The city of Lithone, in BG is Unicron, is on the right side.
Early version of Autobot City, from when the name "Fortress Maximus" was originally going to refer to said city instead of being the name of the big Headmaster Citybot.
The first version of Fortress Maximus, shown above, transforms to Autobot City, shown below.
Early concept for Scourge
Iron Mountain from "The Insecticon Syndrome"
Unicron concept art
Early concept for Galvatron
Junkion ship and Quintesson ship from the G1 movie
Nightbird concept art
Surface of one of Cybertron's moons, from the G1 movie
Decepticon ship concept art, from the G1 movie
Early concept for Hot Rod
The Kronosphere from "War Dawn"
Cybertron
Sharkticon concept
Unicron's brain, from the G1 movie
TORQ III from "Day of the Machines"
Space carrier and an early version of Chaar
Matrix of Leadership
One of Cybertron's moons, from the G1 movie
Autobot City (third version)
Early concept for Cyclonus
Aujtobot shuttle from the G1 movie
Autobot City transformed (third version)
War screen room, from the G1 movie
Sub-Atlantica, from "Atlantis, Arise!"
Concept of Wreck-Gar
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Posted by griftimus prime on November 15th, 2013 @ 5:56am CST
Posted by fenrir72 on November 15th, 2013 @ 5:56am CST
Posted by xyl360 on November 15th, 2013 @ 6:43am CST
Seriously, it's kinda eerie. I wonder if Bay's design team saw these and drew inspiration from them for his insecoidbots.
Also, what the heck's up with the whole Cybertron having a robot mode thing? Was that seriously a concept tossed around for the movie as in Primus and all that? I thought all that stuff was just junk cooked up for the comics.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 15th, 2013 @ 7:23am CST
Simon Furman created the character of Primus in 1988. This idea of Cybertron being a giant robot came about two whole years before Furman would create Primus. So, no, it's not meant to be Primus. It was from the discarded early draft for the 1986 movie called "The Secret of Cybertron":xyl360 wrote:Also, what the heck's up with the whole Cybertron having a robot mode thing? Was that seriously a concept tossed around for the movie as in Primus and all that? I thought all that stuff was just junk cooked up for the comics.
TFWiki.net wrote:"The Secret of Cybertron" was a proposed script by writer Flint Dille and creative director Jay Bacal, hastily produced in a week after they read Ron Friedman's original draft for The Transformers: The Movie and deemed it "incoherent." Although hugely proud and excited about the script they had created, Dille and Bacal were disappointed to discover that executive producers Joe Bacal and Tom Griffin did not share their enthusiasm, and "The Secret of Cybertron" was promptly "filed away."
Details on the story of "The Secret of Cybertron" remain minimal, as the script is lost to the mists of time - Dille believes he may own a copy, but has yet to uncover it. It is believed that at least some aspects of the story made it into the completed movie, although Dille describes the finished feature as "such a Frankenstein of different drafts and ideas and people" that he cannot remember which elements, if any, originated in his and Bacal's script. What is known, though, is that "The Secret of Cybertron" originated the idea of the Quintessons as the creators of the Transformers, which Dille later revived for "Five Faces of Darkness".
As pieced together from different interviews with Dille, the story would have allegedly involved Optimus Prime embarking on a quest to discover the origin of the Transformer race. The titular "secret" would have been that Cybertron itself was a giant robot, and the planet would have been transformed by the Matrix of Leadership to fight Unicron, who was in this draft a weapon apparently created by the Quintessons, intentionally setting up a "brotherly" dynamic between the two planets years before Simon Furman got the idea into his noggin.
Posted by Wasp-shot23 on November 15th, 2013 @ 8:05am CST
...Yeah, I don't think so somehow.
And that Proto-Primus looks awesome. I love the multi-layered complicated look... Cos lets face it, even in the 80's before Mr Bay, it couldn't have been hard to imagine that a robot that size would be almost infinitely complex.
I think I'd like that in plastic.
Posted by Cyberpath on November 15th, 2013 @ 8:49am CST
I wonder if the sketch work with the exposed inner mechanics of Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge and Nightbird was a type of robotic écorché, or an actual proposed look. Probably the former.
I think The Transformers could have pulled off a robot Cybertron, but I never liked the idea, so I'm glad the concept never made it to the series. Though the illustration is great!
Without the creativity and skill of Dery I think the show might not have been as successful and timeless.
Posted by gothsaurus on November 15th, 2013 @ 9:25am CST
Posted by spiderbob007 on November 15th, 2013 @ 9:59am CST
Posted by Trikeboy on November 15th, 2013 @ 10:27am CST
Posted by triKlops on November 15th, 2013 @ 10:33am CST
The images are amazing to see together, hopefully all this work leads to something down the line in printed form.
Posted by ScottyP on November 15th, 2013 @ 11:02am CST
Posted by Va'al on November 15th, 2013 @ 11:50am CST
Cyberpath wrote:Hey, where's my news credit point? I posted some of these months ago and no one seemed to care.
I did credit you in the news post, but we can only assign the numeric credit count to one user at a time.
Posted by kirbenvost on November 15th, 2013 @ 12:37pm CST
Posted by MINDVVIPE on November 15th, 2013 @ 3:32pm CST
Posted by Banjo-Tron on November 15th, 2013 @ 3:39pm CST
Posted by Mindmaster on November 15th, 2013 @ 6:10pm CST
I like it. A lot.
Posted by wewyllenium on November 15th, 2013 @ 6:27pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 15th, 2013 @ 10:02pm CST
Not to mention how TSoC would have had Unicron also be a product of the Quintessons, as a WMD created by them to reclaim Cybertron, instead of the origins we later got for the character (monkey scientist creation in the cartoon, evil god in everything else).
Had this thing been greenlit, we would have gotten non-god Unicron vs non-god robot Cybertron, and both simply being trump card pawns in the greater "Quintessons vs. Cybertronians" conflict.
Posted by Hans on November 16th, 2013 @ 4:00am CST
One thing though, I believe the first picture does not show Unicron's severed head, but instead envisions him attacking Cybertron as seen from the Hall of Heroes. He's using the same cloud mist cover as seen in the Lithone piece, and the original Marvel comics movie adaptation
Posted by Sabrblade on November 16th, 2013 @ 5:10am CST
Well, that's just what Dery wrote on his blog entry for that image.Hans wrote:One thing though, I believe the first picture does not show Unicron's severed head, but instead envisions him attacking Cybertron as seen from the Hall of Heroes. He's using the same cloud mist cover as seen in the Lithone piece, and the original Marvel comics movie adaptation
Decepticon Hall of Heroes, shown in BG are the Earth's moon and the severed head of Unicron. The 11"x17" signed print of this poster was recently bought by a Japanese collector for $200. Always check my daughter's Etsy store because other signed Transformers prints will be posted anytime at:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/FDartstudio
Also, check the Home page.
Posted by Cyberpath on November 16th, 2013 @ 5:33am CST
I may have mentioned this before somewhere, but I'd love to see a new hand-drawn animated series, with only original characters: no Prime, no Megatron, no Starscream, no Bumblebee, etc. Not even recycled names.
And all designed by Floro Drey.
Shame it will never happen. Hasbro is too comfortable serving the same bots endlessly in different variations.
Regarding the book Floro is working on, he has piles of artwork from the original show, I hope it doesn't mean that they will have to drastically reduce the size of most of them.
Posted by xyl360 on November 17th, 2013 @ 8:39am CST
Sabrblade wrote:It's funny how folks refer to the Robot Mode Cybertron as "Proto Primus", "Pre-Primus", etc. since "The Secret of Cybertron" was still going to have the Quintessons as the TFs' creators while Robot Mode Cybertron was just that, a robot mode for the planet without any god status. It's also funny since Primus' original schtick was just "TF god" instead of "Cybertron's robot mode", when the latter is all that we see here.
Not to mention how TSoC would have had Unicron also be a product of the Quintessons, as a WMD created by them to reclaim Cybertron, instead of the origins we later got for the character (monkey scientist creation in the cartoon, evil god in everything else).
Had this thing been greenlit, we would have gotten non-god Unicron vs non-god robot Cybertron, and both simply being trump card pawns in the greater "Quintessons vs. Cybertronians" conflict.
And that would have made a hell of a lot more sense to me than "God and the Devil are robot planets" .
Yeah, the concept of Quintesson creation of the Cybertronians is how I view the TF universe. They are machines who eventually evolved AI and thus sentience. They are not representatives or creations of larger machines who are "gods" because that always poses the question of "OK, so where did the "Gods" come from? Who/what created them?"
Posted by Sabrblade on November 17th, 2013 @ 1:51pm CST
The upcoming Covenant of Primus book will go into that.xyl360 wrote:They are not representatives or creations of larger machines who are "gods" because that always poses the question of "OK, so where did the "Gods" come from? Who/what created them?"
Posted by Cyberpath on February 8th, 2014 @ 2:31pm CST
"The mechano-beast, from the animated Transformers movie."
"Massive grabber from a hole on the spiked moon of the Quintesson planet, from the animated Transformers movie."
"Close shot of the junk lined corridor of the Junkion planet, from the Transformers series."
Posted by sto_vo_kor_2000 on February 8th, 2014 @ 3:01pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 8th, 2014 @ 9:57pm CST
The Crystal of Power from "Fire on the Mountain"
A closer examination reveals this to be the combined form of the enigmatic Anibots, who were the prototypical Predacons conceived as an Autobot subgroup instead of Decepticons. So, it isn't actually something that existed in anything official.Cyberpath wrote:
"The mechano-beast, from the animated Transformers movie."
The smaller text reveals even more:
The Anibots: Rhioceros (Clump),
Eagle (Shriek), Lion (Simba),
Buffalo (Thump), & Leopard (Pardo)
They combine to become the
"Mechano-Beast". This is the end
of the three versions.
The 1st version looks like a
monster with outer spiketail
structure & transforms a second
time to an alien spaceship.
The 3rd version
is a "Hydra" with
five heads.
The "Mechano-Beast"
in simplified form.
Posted by Va'al on February 9th, 2014 @ 4:18am CST
"Massive grabber from a hole on the spiked moon of the Quintesson planet, from the animated Transformers movie."
"Close shot of the junk lined corridor of the Junkion planet, from the Transformers series."
"The Crystal of Power from "Fire on the Mountain"
"The mechano-beast, from the animated Transformers movie."
Sabrblade has also looked at the image closely, and figured out its actual identity:
A closer examination reveals this to be the combined form of the enigmatic Anibots, who were the prototypical Predacons conceived as an Autobot subgroup instead of Decepticons. So, it isn't actually something that existed in anything official.
The smaller text reveals even more:
"The Anibots: Rhinoceros (Clump), Eagle (Shriek), Lion (Simba), Buffalo (Thump), & Leopard (Pardo).They combine to become the 'Mechano-Beast'. This is the end of the three versions. The 1st version looks like a monster with outer spiketail structure & transforms a second time to an alien spaceship. The 3rd version is a 'Hydra' with five heads. The 'Mechano-Beast' in simplified form."
Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 9th, 2014 @ 2:01pm CST
Given his eventual status as Predaking's archenemy, I wonder if Dery had seen the Sky Lynx toy before drawing this. No real evidence of it here, but as he was the first truly dragon-ish TF, and had a spaceship mode as mentioned in the text, I have to wonder if it was an influence.
Posted by fenrir72 on February 9th, 2014 @ 6:19pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 9th, 2014 @ 6:23pm CST
Sky Lynx's mold was from the same toyline as Omega Supreme's mold, so it probably already existed back then.fenrir72 wrote:Or Skylynx was the eventual result of the early concept. Back then, I doubt if the technology would have spawned an actual toy.
Posted by MGrotusque on February 10th, 2014 @ 1:42pm CST
Posted by Cyberpath on March 15th, 2014 @ 6:56pm CDT
Unvorsum is the poetic Latin word for the Universe. Unvorsum, shown in the first drawing above, is a galactic robot, he's a transmuter in the symbiotic topological realm that's parallel to the physical Universe. He derives his power from an enormous black hole in his body, and through an opening he devours planets, stars and other galaxies. Unvorsum topologically transmutes into a multi-dimensional gigantic galaxy, as shown in the second drawing, that's greater than any known galaxy. Attached to his back is his parasitic mini-sidekick galaxy. Copyright (c) 2013 by Floro Dery.
Signed prints are available at:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/FDartstudio
It reminds me of this piece from an old interview.
TFPH: If you told to create Unicron in your style, do you think he still be a planet? or something else? like a giant space crab perhaps.
Floro Dery: I was not told by anyone when I created the design of Unicron. In fact, the writer's idea is different from mine. However, if I redesign Unicron again, I will make him bigger and like a galaxy.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 15th, 2014 @ 7:45pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 16th, 2014 @ 4:28pm CDT
Posted by Dead Metal on March 16th, 2014 @ 5:33pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Turns out it's not Transformers art. It's copyrighted 2013, being something he recently came up with.
I got that just from looking at the picture.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on March 16th, 2014 @ 6:26pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on May 11th, 2014 @ 3:13am CDT
The temple of the Sky God on the moon Titan. (from the episode The God Gambit.)
Galvatron defending the Decepticon Hall of Heroes from Unicron.
Notice the two Cyclonus.
Posted by Dead Metal on May 11th, 2014 @ 4:24am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Two new signed prints from Floro Dery:
The temple of the Sky God on the moon Titan. (from the episode The God Gambit.)
Galvatron defending the Decepticon Hall of Heroes from Unicron.
Notice the two Cyclonus.
Yea, those two Cyclonus are still from when Cyclonus was supposed to have a clone army similar to Scourge and his Sweeps.
Any news on his artbook?
Posted by Cyberpath on July 18th, 2014 @ 9:30am CDT
The Quintesson and the Sharkticons in the court chamber.
The 3rd version Autobot spaceship and also the 3rd version fiery planet Thrull and its moons.
Ultra Magnus, 3rd version.
Looks a lot like Orion Pax, actually.
Posted by Hans on July 18th, 2014 @ 9:40am CDT
Posted by triKlops on July 18th, 2014 @ 10:03am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 18th, 2014 @ 1:26pm CDT
Yes. Later I redesigned and simplified this Ultra Magnus to become Orion Pax.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 18th, 2014 @ 4:35pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 27th, 2014 @ 2:33pm CDT
There seems so many confusing ideas going around among Transformers fans in the development of the animated Transformers movie. When I was designing the said movie I just designed whatever I wanted, once done I gave them to the studio, and that was that. I had no more control afterward whether the studio will use it or not, but most of the time my designs were used and others were not. My Ultra Magnus design shown here was not used in the movie, so I redesigned and modified it to become Orion Pax that the studio used in the Transformers series. I'll tell my daughter to post the design of Orion Pax in her Etsy store. By the way, to correct the misconception, my Ultra Magnus design was based on an angel and NOT BASED on the toy Powered Convoy, and I had nothing to do with the final Ultra Magnus used in the movie. About the book, my daughter and nephew are working on it slowly, hahaha. It's just a sideline work of my daughter who's working full time as a lawyer.
Posted by Hans on July 28th, 2014 @ 2:55am CDT
I had nothing to do with the final Ultra Magnus used in the movie
Hmmm, I assume he did design the animation model based on the actual toy as he also did with all the season two and most of the season one Transformers... right?
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on August 5th, 2014 @ 9:50am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on October 21st, 2014 @ 2:28am CDT
Shown on the left side is the 1st version of Quintesson, and on the right side is the final version.
Signed prints are available at: http://www.etsy.com/shop/FDartstudio
The moon of Unicron and its transformation Mini-Unicron.
Posted by Hans on October 21st, 2014 @ 2:45am CDT
Can anyone decipher the text in the Quintesson piece? I wish there was a higher-resolution version available... from what I can tell, Floro explains the inspiration for the various head designs...
Posted by Cyberpath on October 21st, 2014 @ 3:27am CDT
Hans wrote:I always thought the Quintesson designs were the most "out there" as far as high fantasy in G1 goes, really awesome and unique designs. The first design is a lot more conventional, but still very cool.
Can anyone decipher the text in the Quintesson piece? I wish there was a higher-resolution version available... from what I can tell, Floro explains the inspiration for the various head designs...
Face 1: I used a Pharaoh skull-like face to suggest kingly authority and death.
Face 2: I used a fat face with a sun-like-rays headgear to suggest a happy and smiling face.
Face 3: Here I used the face of evil (devil-like) to suggest an angry face.
Face 4: I used a stern and barbarian face to suggest a grimacing face.
Face 5: And here I used an old woman-like face to suggest a suspicious face.