Further Proof of Voyager Megatron and Starscream Coming to the Transformers Siege Line
Tuesday, July 24th, 2018 12:41PM CDT
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Last week's SDCC 2018 revealed the Transformers War for Cybertron Siege line which is made up of G1 characters and tells the narrative of their days fighting on Cybertron before coming to earth. Only Autobots were revealed, with more Autobots hinted at, but what about the Decepticons? Will it only be Autobots on the shelves for a while? Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Jelze Goldrabbit, we are much closer to believing that no, we will indeed be getting Decepticons and rather early in the line.
Now that we can match the revealed toys with previous listings found on Amazon, we can look at which other characters have a similar item code and thus match them with the correct line. None of this is for certain, but as of now, it's the best we can do. The prices below are in Australian dollars and they show the (possible) line up for Battle Masters, deluxes, voyagers and the leader (Ultra Magnus, who we already know). The big news here is that we are indeed getting a voyager Megatron to go with the voyager Optimus. While his product number is closest to Optimus', the number order is never the best indicator to what wave mates would be (especially since there are often single voyagers per waves or repacks). The other voyager we see for the line is Starscream, meaning that the seekers in this line will be voyager class. This goes in line with what Hasbro had said where robot mode scale would be key and fans have often stated that Seekers should be voyager class rather than deluxe class.
The Battle Master class listings never had names so we still do not know who we are getting aside from Firedrive and Lionizer and the only new deluxe we know is coming is Prowl, who was on the Siege Poster.
Leader Ultra Magnus (E3479, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Deluxe WFC-S10 Sideswipe E3520
Deluxe Cog (E3536, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Deluxe Hound (E3537, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Deluxe Ironhide (E3538, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Deluxe Prowl (E3540, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Voyager Optimus Prime (E3541, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Voyager Megatron (E3543, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Voyager Starscream (E3544, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Battle Masters WFC-S1 Firedrive E3550
Race Car (E3557, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Battle (E3558 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Airstrike (E3560, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Spy (E3561, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Rescue (E3562 , AUD 14.91, Release Date 12/01/2018)
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Posted by DaXtraLargeRobot on July 24th, 2018 @ 12:56pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:03pm CDT
DaXtraLargeRobot wrote:According to the release dates for these listings it looks like we'll be getting three voyagers in Wave 1, interesting.
Take those with a big grain of salt. The Micromaster teams have the same date, however the Rescue Patrol is confirmed Wave 2 (not to mention Red Heat is a co-tool of Big Shot). The product codes combined with prices are only reliable for grouping figures in the same line and size class, not release order.
Posted by o.supreme on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:09pm CDT
Posted by DaXtraLargeRobot on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:13pm CDT
Posted by mordhelm on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:27pm CDT
I would think:
W1: OP and Thundercrapper
W2: Megs and Screamer
W3: Skywrap and a retool of OP
W4: Either repacks, or maybe a retool of Megs with a Conehead
Now if Shockwave is a Voyager, I would expect it to be like this:
W1: OP and Shocker
w2: Megs and Screamer
W3: Thundercrapper and Skywrap
W4: Repacks.
I really expect they are going to go all in on the final wave being a short wave with repacks, like they experimented with TR and PotP
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:32pm CDT
mordhelm wrote:I really expect they are going to go all in on the final wave being a short wave with repacks, like they experimented with TR and PotP
I would assume this is the case for all 3 parts of the War for Cybertron trilogy until they show us otherwise.
Posted by Bucky on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:36pm CDT
I’m sure he’ll just be a tank again though. Or a hovercraft.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:37pm CDT
Bucky wrote:Ooo. Now I’m curious what Meg’s alt mode is going to be. I’m kind of sick of tank Megatron, and we know he won’t turn into a gun. Maybe some kind of Cybertronian turret, or artillery cannon would be neat. A nice cross between his G1 alt and Galvatron’s.
I’m sure he’ll just be a tank again though. Or a hovercraft.
Submarine, he'll definitely be a submarine
Posted by william-james88 on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:40pm CDT
mordhelm wrote:My guess is that it will be the usual 2 voyagers per wave.
It can also be 1 voyager per wave (skylynx, broadside, inferno)
Posted by Bucky on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:40pm CDT
Posted by DerrikDGreat on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:41pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:43pm CDT
She was making a Sixshot joke.Bucky wrote:I would actually take that, because we never get subs.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:45pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:mordhelm wrote:My guess is that it will be the usual 2 voyagers per wave.
It can also be 1 voyager per wave (skylynx, broadside, inferno)
Yeah, but none of those started out a line, such as Red Prime/Silverbolt, Sentinal Prime/Galvatron, or Grimlock/Starscream. In fact, I'm pretty sure the first 2 waves have always had 2 voyagers, so for these initial guesses, I think 2 voyagers is a pretty safe bet.
Posted by gothsaurus on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:47pm CDT
I'd expect the first three as main line releases, of course. It's odd that they didn't have these Autobots setting the stage, since they're the vehicles actually featured in the episode. So far, none of the line have been featured in cybertronian mode in the G1 cartoon, right?
• Wheeljack
• Jazz
• Bumblebee
Welcoming Committee Seekers:
• Hotlink
• Bitstream
• Sunstorm
I'll be deeply upset if I don't at least see the Autobots above and the three main seekers. The welcoming committee would be icing on the cake, though, and a definite buy as an exclusive.
Posted by william-james88 on July 24th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
Bucky wrote:I’m sure he’ll just be a tank again though. Or a hovercraft.
The smart money would be on him being a cybertronian tank of some kind.
Something like this I would guess:
Posted by Skritz on July 24th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on July 24th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CDT
Posted by DaXtraLargeRobot on July 24th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on July 24th, 2018 @ 2:29pm CDT
Posted by Burn on July 24th, 2018 @ 2:58pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:My apologies, I didn't have time to listen to the whole panel, but did any fan ask, or did Hasbro happen to mention if a Titan Class figure was at all even being planned for 2019?
Quoting this because it really deserves an answer and got lost amongst the discussion of other stuff.
Posted by MECHdirge on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:00pm CDT
I’m really looking forward to more Cybertron forms for my collection, and that Leader class Ultra Magnus is a great figure. I generally skip the larger scale figures (skipped the PotP leaders) when I have a better figure in my collection or it’s a character I don’t care for. That Ultra Magnus stands out and would be a nice addition. I tend to enjoy the smaller figures, so will most likely be buying the rest of the line.
I am still hoping PotP Novastar isn’t too hard to find online. I have the Amazon deluxes preordered, and Wreckgar preordered (Takara), but missed out on the BBTS Takara Novastar preorder. Aside from that, I’m ready for a new line, so bring on the War on Cybertron I think Cog and some of the other “weapon” bots will be interesting. Nice to see some preliminary dates, too.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:09pm CDT
Burn wrote:o.supreme wrote:My apologies, I didn't have time to listen to the whole panel, but did any fan ask, or did Hasbro happen to mention if a Titan Class figure was at all even being planned for 2019?
Quoting this because it really deserves an answer and got lost amongst the discussion of other stuff.
The Brand Team with John Warden has stated in an interview that they can't say anything about plans for more Titans just yet. They did say that hypothetically, Omega Supreme would be Devastator's size, or slightly bigger.
In that same interview it's said that CW-type Combiners are not completely off the table, and that PotP was cut short because Hasbro was in a hurry to get the new trilogy started.
Posted by o.supreme on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:11pm CDT
MECHdirge wrote:but missed out on the BBTS Takara Novastar preorder
Check back with BBTS occasionally, those pre-order "OOS" will usually change, especially when they get the item in, they usually have more than they pre-ordered, plus the pre-order for Deluxe wave 4 and Nova Star individually haven't even been made available yet, those are the ones you'll have to be quick with, if you fear it wont be at a local B&M. I bet a ton of people are going to cancel their Novastar if/when the becomes available, since its the same toy now, just less expensive
Also thanks Burn for the bump post on my previous question , and JelZe GoldRabbit for responding
Posted by Va'al on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:12pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Burn wrote:o.supreme wrote:My apologies, I didn't have time to listen to the whole panel, but did any fan ask, or did Hasbro happen to mention if a Titan Class figure was at all even being planned for 2019?
Quoting this because it really deserves an answer and got lost amongst the discussion of other stuff.
The Brand Team with John Warden has stated in an interview that they can't say anything about plans for more Titans just yet. They did say that hypothetically, Omega Supreme would be Devastator's size, or slightly bigger.
In that same interview it's said that CW-type Combiners are not completely off the table, and that PotP was cut short because Hasbro was in a hurry to get the new trilogy started.
Yup, nothing confirmed nor denied from any of the conversations had. If anything is coming, they haven't said so.
Posted by william-james88 on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CDT
Burn wrote:o.supreme wrote:My apologies, I didn't have time to listen to the whole panel, but did any fan ask, or did Hasbro happen to mention if a Titan Class figure was at all even being planned for 2019?
Quoting this because it really deserves an answer and got lost amongst the discussion of other stuff.
Fine, I will help you guys out
Here is the only info we have regarding a Titan being mentioned at SDCC.
Go to 9:35
Now you both owe me.
Posted by o.supreme on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:18pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Yup, nothing confirmed nor denied from any of the conversations had. If anything is coming, they haven't said so.
So...Just throwing this out there...If the PotP leak had not occurred, the fandom would not have known about Predaking until NYCC in October of last year(when the production Divebomb wings were teased)....So hopefully at NYCC we may fid out something similar...provided a similar leak doesn't occur again.
Posted by jtanimator on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:19pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:22pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Now you both owe me.
ok no prob. I've already left a Voice Message with Mr. Warden. I told him our neighbors to the north need more Titan's at their local B&M, he just got back to me and said he's make sure it would happen.
Posted by Burn on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:27pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Now you both owe me.
mmmm....no. I didn't want to see o.supreme's question overlooked.
Plus others beat you to the punch. Maybe be faster next time?
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:29pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Burn wrote:o.supreme wrote:My apologies, I didn't have time to listen to the whole panel, but did any fan ask, or did Hasbro happen to mention if a Titan Class figure was at all even being planned for 2019?
Quoting this because it really deserves an answer and got lost amongst the discussion of other stuff.
Fine, I will help you guys out
Here is the only info we have regarding a Titan being mentioned at SDCC.
Go to 9:35
Now you both owe me.
After watching that, I'm now fairly confident that the Titan's going to be Omega because of the grin he gives and talking about "what would fit for the last days of Cybertron" and Warden's statement involving other incarnations of the characters. If it is an Omega that turns into the Ark, I'll start paying attention to the WFC line
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:30pm CDT
Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:Now you both owe me.
mmmm....no. I didn't want to see o.supreme's question overlooked.
Plus others beat you to the punch. Maybe be faster next time?
Shouldn't matter if two different sources basically say the same thing, reinforcing one another.
Posted by Burn on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:36pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:Now you both owe me.
mmmm....no. I didn't want to see o.supreme's question overlooked.
Plus others beat you to the punch. Maybe be faster next time?
Shouldn't matter if two different sources basically say the same thing, reinforcing one another.
Please don't make me explain my messed up sense of humour. You've seen my posts enough to know that I'm rarely serious.
Posted by frogbat on July 24th, 2018 @ 3:46pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Knight on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:00pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:02pm CDT
DaXtraLargeRobot wrote:I'm personally hoping for a warpath figure, the line's gimmick seems to basically be turning your figures into walking tanks and warpath is a literal walking tank
Warpath and Megatron could share a mold or, at least, some engineering. Assuming that we are getting a Tank Megatron. For all we know he could turn into Cybertronian Artillery, which is basically a fancy way of saying a 'giant fuck you gun'.
Posted by Burn on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:04pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:07pm CDT
Burn wrote:I'm still holding out for a decent "Mini-Bot" Warpath
Was the recent Legends one bad? Granted if there is one Mini-Bot who need (and indeed) has been 'promoted' to full size it really needs to be Warpath. He's a friggin' tank!
Posted by Bucky on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:She was making a Sixshot joke.Bucky wrote:I would actually take that, because we never get subs.
Oh, wow. I completely forgot about that. That went right over my head.
Posted by Burn on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:11pm CDT
Skritz wrote:Burn wrote:I'm still holding out for a decent "Mini-Bot" Warpath
Was the recent Legends one bad? Granted if there is one Mini-Bot who need (and indeed) has been 'promoted' to full size it really needs to be Warpath. He's a friggin' tank!
I'm VERY fussy when it comes to Warpath (honestly can't explain why). I want a G1-esque tank with modern articulation, the same treatment as all the other Minibots have gotten.
Posted by Skritz on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:22pm CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:What I would like to see with this set, is a trailer for Optimus that transformers into a base with a crap ton of weapons for all the different characters. I'm tired of the trailers transforming into a "super robot" or a "fancy dress transformer"
Maybe you are correct and if the rumours of a second Optimus Prime as a Leader-class are true then it could be a re-release of the Voyager with an added trailer. I do say 'could' but I doubt it because that would not fit with how Hasbro do things, so a Leader Optimus is either a Magnus redeco/retool or a new mold which would presumably do something different from the Voyager's 'cybertronian G1' look.
Can't be Powermaster Prime or G2 Prime, those looks were already used in Titans Return. I'm really puzzled what Optimus Prime design they haven't retouched and remade by this point. Even Star Convoy got a mild homage in the regular TR Voyager. Unless Hasbro felt like doing their own take on God Ginrai/Apex Armor with a Magnus redeco with completely new armor tooling but I don't see it either.
Posted by MadProject on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:31pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
I'm having an hard time recognizing the grey and purple bot that is being carried by Red Alert.
Posted by Emerje on July 24th, 2018 @ 4:53pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Spy Patrol (possibly the missing half of an already released team)
Warden stated that they don't plan on doing the other halves of teams. I'm thinking they aren't quite as dedicated to the Micro Masters (that space in the name is killing me) as they seem so I wouldn't expect playsets as some suggest.
Anyway, you missed the Air Strike Patrol and listed the Rescue patrol twice. I'm still hoping that the Spy Patrol is based on RID Spychangers. I said that before SDCC and after seeing Ultra Magnus I want that to be true all the more.
Yes, we have a Leader Class Shockwave, BUT that may actually be for the Studio Series and not WFC (how does movie Shockwave size to Prime anyway?). This list is nowhere near a certainty, but educated guesses with firm bases.
One chart I found had him at 35' like Megatron so I can't really see him as a Leader class if an equally complex Cybertronian tank like Megatron wasn't one.
Going back to Omega Supreme, the G1 fan in me HATES the idea of him turning into the Ark or the Ark turning into anything at all, and the Animated fan in me wants that concept to stay there. Thankfully Warden is a big ol' G1 fanboy so I think it's a little silly to even entertain the thought. But, man, if our one good shot at a Titan Omega doesn't turn into a rocket, tank, and launch base or something reasonably similar after five faithful-enough Titans I'm not buying.
Emerje
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 24th, 2018 @ 5:05pm CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:What I would like to see with this set, is a trailer for Optimus that transformers into a base with a crap ton of weapons for all the different characters. I'm tired of the trailers transforming into a "super robot" or a "fancy dress transformer"
I know it's not exactly what you're looking for, but this got me wondering. Would Hasbro be clever enough to work in a way for WfC: Siege Optimus Prime to haul the PotP Leader class trailer? That would be a fun little easter egg bonus.
Posted by Va'al on July 24th, 2018 @ 5:05pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 24th, 2018 @ 5:07pm CDT
Burn wrote:Skritz wrote:Burn wrote:I'm still holding out for a decent "Mini-Bot" Warpath
Was the recent Legends one bad? Granted if there is one Mini-Bot who need (and indeed) has been 'promoted' to full size it really needs to be Warpath. He's a friggin' tank!
I'm VERY fussy when it comes to Warpath (honestly can't explain why). I want a G1-esque tank with modern articulation, the same treatment as all the other Minibots have gotten.
It's because the Combiner Wars version Hasbro did neglected to retool his chest to add the iconic gun barrel, isn't it?
Va'al wrote:New con videos!
I was very excited for a moment, because I thought you meant Decepticon videos.
Posted by Va'al on July 24th, 2018 @ 5:11pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Va'al wrote:New con videos!
I was very excited for a moment, because I thought you meant Decepticon videos.
You were being deceived.
Posted by Burn on July 24th, 2018 @ 5:14pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Burn wrote:Skritz wrote:Burn wrote:I'm still holding out for a decent "Mini-Bot" Warpath
Was the recent Legends one bad? Granted if there is one Mini-Bot who need (and indeed) has been 'promoted' to full size it really needs to be Warpath. He's a friggin' tank!
I'm VERY fussy when it comes to Warpath (honestly can't explain why). I want a G1-esque tank with modern articulation, the same treatment as all the other Minibots have gotten.
It's because the Combiner Wars version Hasbro did neglected to retool his chest to add the iconic gun barrel, isn't it?
IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THAT HARD TO DO HASBRO!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 24th, 2018 @ 5:38pm CDT
>Possible TETRAJET
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 24th, 2018 @ 5:52pm CDT
Burn wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Burn wrote:Skritz wrote:Burn wrote:I'm still holding out for a decent "Mini-Bot" Warpath
Was the recent Legends one bad? Granted if there is one Mini-Bot who need (and indeed) has been 'promoted' to full size it really needs to be Warpath. He's a friggin' tank!
I'm VERY fussy when it comes to Warpath (honestly can't explain why). I want a G1-esque tank with modern articulation, the same treatment as all the other Minibots have gotten.
It's because the Combiner Wars version Hasbro did neglected to retool his chest to add the iconic gun barrel, isn't it?
IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THAT HARD TO DO HASBRO!
Agreed, but for whatever reason, it seems Hasbro is loathe to retool ANY Legends class figure beyond a simple head swap.
Posted by Emerje on July 24th, 2018 @ 6:16pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Burn wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Burn wrote:Skritz wrote:Burn wrote:I'm still holding out for a decent "Mini-Bot" Warpath
Was the recent Legends one bad? Granted if there is one Mini-Bot who need (and indeed) has been 'promoted' to full size it really needs to be Warpath. He's a friggin' tank!
I'm VERY fussy when it comes to Warpath (honestly can't explain why). I want a G1-esque tank with modern articulation, the same treatment as all the other Minibots have gotten.
It's because the Combiner Wars version Hasbro did neglected to retool his chest to add the iconic gun barrel, isn't it?
IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THAT HARD TO DO HASBRO!
Agreed, but for whatever reason, it seems Hasbro is loathe to retool ANY Legends class figure beyond a simple head swap.
And right now we aren't getting Legends class at all. Thanks, Hasbro!
Emerje