Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures
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At this point last year, we had a very good idea at the entirety of the Power of the Primes line and due to all the listings found across various Amazon sites, it might be the same with Siege, at least for the Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures. We had newsed them as they came in but now we will list all the toys we know that are within the Siege line. This might not mean that this is the entirety for all classes, but it is all the listings out now for this one year line. The deluxe and voyagers output at least seems complete, as far as mainline toys go. Make of it what you will. The big entry here that people may have missed is a leader sized Optimus Prime that is slated for later in 2019.
You will notice that certain expected redecos are not listed, such as Skywarp, and the other Datsuns (Bluestreak and Smokescreen). Skywarp's current absence is reinforced by him not being present on the recent promotional material for the Decepticon releases. These may of course end up as exclusives, just like Ratchet is, or released in later lines within the War for Cybertron trilogy.
Deluxes:
E3520 Sideswipe
E3535 Skytread/flywheels
E3537 Hound
E3536 Cog
E3539 Chromia
E3538 Ironhide
E3540 Prowl
E4738 Sixgun
E4496 Red alert
E4497 Refraktor
E4498 Barricade
E4499 Brunt
E4500 Mirage
E4501 Impactor
Ratchet is exclusive to Walgreens, UPC 63050983224
Voyagers:
E3541 Optimus Prime
E3543 Megatron
E3544 Starscream
E3545 Soundwave
E4490 Thundercracker
E4491 Springer
Leaders:
E3479 Ultra Magnus
E3576 Shockwave
E4522 Optimus Prime
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Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992592)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on November 4th, 2018 @ 11:41pm CST
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on November 4th, 2018 @ 11:41pm CST
Every time I see that poster... it screams "box set" or a special release like when Primus came with the limited Unicron head.
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Posted by Emerje on November 4th, 2018 @ 11:42pm CST
Posted by Emerje on November 4th, 2018 @ 11:42pm CST
Wouldn't a "big" Optimus Prime go against what they've set up so far in Siege? It's hard to picture a Leader Optimus being anything other than a Voyager with a lot of armor after Ultra Magnus and Shockwave. It'll just be an expensive Optimus Prime. I'll be surprised if Leader Optimus isn't a repaint of UM's inner bot with new/retooled armor to get another use out of the mold. Maybe the trailer bits can make him look like the IDW Optimus Prime design.
Just don't be PM Optimus again, not right now, we just had two of them.
Or heck, do something new.
Emerje
Just don't be PM Optimus again, not right now, we just had two of them.
Or heck, do something new.
Emerje
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992595)
Posted by Agent 53 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:13am CST
I expect Prime will be, at least at base, an Ultra Magnus repaint/ retool. Whether he's a Powermaster figure I don't know. Given that Magnus has Car Robots inspiration (I've gotta use the Japan name now because RID could be the Anime I meant, or the comic or the cartoon) I kind of hope we'll get something more like that super Optimus, or Cybertron Optimus.
Posted by Agent 53 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:13am CST
Emerje wrote:Wouldn't a "big" Optimus Prime go against what they've set up so far in Siege? It's hard to picture a Leader Optimus being anything other than a Voyager with a lot of armor after Ultra Magnus and Shockwave. It'll just be an expensive Optimus Prime. I'll be surprised if Leader Optimus isn't a repaint of UM's inner bot with new/retooled armor to get another use out of the mold. Maybe the trailer bits can make him look like the IDW Optimus Prime design.
Just don't be PM Optimus again, not right now, we just had two of them.
Or heck, do something new.
Emerje
I expect Prime will be, at least at base, an Ultra Magnus repaint/ retool. Whether he's a Powermaster figure I don't know. Given that Magnus has Car Robots inspiration (I've gotta use the Japan name now because RID could be the Anime I meant, or the comic or the cartoon) I kind of hope we'll get something more like that super Optimus, or Cybertron Optimus.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992596)
Posted by Emerje on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:21am CST
Posted by Emerje on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:21am CST
Now that I think about it, Unicron Trilogy Cybertron Optimus Prime is basically the same concept as Siege Shockwave. His super mode(s) didn't really change him much, it was just boots and a bunch of weapons.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992600)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:46am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:46am CST
I'm thinking apex armour op for leader Class. What would be awesome is if it was something new that resembled rid fire truck Prime to match rid um 
I wouldn't be complaining if they combined either 
that's the longest shot though.
I wouldn't be complaining if they combined either that's the longest shot though.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992602)
Posted by Agent 53 on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:59am CST
Posted by Agent 53 on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:59am CST
Is the Megatron Gallery not working for anyone else or Is it Just me?
Also now that it's been suggested if they don't give us either a weaponiser, Micromaster or Battle Master Roller I may actually die of disappointment. That said if they do I may die of excitement.
Also now that it's been suggested if they don't give us either a weaponiser, Micromaster or Battle Master Roller I may actually die of disappointment. That said if they do I may die of excitement.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992603)
Posted by Mechastrike on November 5th, 2018 @ 3:49am CST
Posted by Mechastrike on November 5th, 2018 @ 3:49am CST
hoping to get a triple changing Springer this time. i mean i missed the 2011-13 Generations version.
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Posted by Easy Tiger on November 5th, 2018 @ 4:21am CST
Posted by Easy Tiger on November 5th, 2018 @ 4:21am CST
Surely the obvious Leader Optimus Prime take is the voyager OP with a trailer.
In the early G1 episodes, much more is made of his trailer and Roller. Seeing as they're more concerned with scale this time, it seems weird that they'd make a huge OP.
They essentially did the same with Shockwave - let's be honest, he's just a voyager figure with extras.
EDIT - I see all of this has already been suggested in the Megatron gallery bit of the thread. I'll just sit quietly now.
In the early G1 episodes, much more is made of his trailer and Roller. Seeing as they're more concerned with scale this time, it seems weird that they'd make a huge OP.
They essentially did the same with Shockwave - let's be honest, he's just a voyager figure with extras.
EDIT - I see all of this has already been suggested in the Megatron gallery bit of the thread. I'll just sit quietly now.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992606)
Posted by crash8burnt on November 5th, 2018 @ 5:28am CST
Posted by crash8burnt on November 5th, 2018 @ 5:28am CST
What r the chances we may get Bumblebee and Blaster in this line?
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992607)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 5:31am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 5:31am CST
I think we know what we're getting barring exclusives, but there is always 2020
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Posted by SkyFire Prime on November 5th, 2018 @ 5:43am CST
Posted by SkyFire Prime on November 5th, 2018 @ 5:43am CST
Prime with Apex Armor sounds good.
I could imagine a slight retool of Magnus and his trailor such that the trailor is gray and more flat.
Seeing how UltraMagnus works, THIS is totally possible. Skipping the PMOP and going strait to Apex Armor, especially since the US did not get the previous Takara Release in normal wide release.
I could imagine a slight retool of Magnus and his trailor such that the trailor is gray and more flat.
Seeing how UltraMagnus works, THIS is totally possible. Skipping the PMOP and going strait to Apex Armor, especially since the US did not get the previous Takara Release in normal wide release.
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Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 5th, 2018 @ 6:15am CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 5th, 2018 @ 6:15am CST
I kinda hope it's PMOP out of Magnus (again ) and then an exclusive for say Amazon or BBTS is revealed to be voyager or leader Godbomber who's now a weaponizer. Ir's more likely that that won't happen unfortunately, but it'd be awesome
) and then an exclusive for say Amazon or BBTS is revealed to be voyager or leader Godbomber who's now a weaponizer. Ir's more likely that that won't happen unfortunately, but it'd be awesome
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Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 6:43am CST
Weaponisers out of godbomber/roller would be awesome on fact they could probably combine the two ideas to get milage out of them. Plus the roller that came with ultra Magnus's diaclone predecessor transformed
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 6:43am CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I kinda hope it's PMOP out of Magnus (again
Weaponisers out of godbomber/roller would be awesome on fact they could probably combine the two ideas to get milage out of them. Plus the roller that came with ultra Magnus's diaclone predecessor transformed
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Posted by blackeyedprime on November 5th, 2018 @ 6:52am CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 5th, 2018 @ 6:52am CST
Hoping for a RID based prime to compliment the Magnus, it probably is jut the voyager with trailer and some crazy armor options(4 legs or three heads...) to fight against shockwave. A version of Cybertron Prime could be nice. Either Cbertron or RID Prime might be able to get a Baynus Sentinel Prime repaint out of them if Barricade ends up not being based on G1 in this line up.
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Posted by frogbat on November 5th, 2018 @ 7:18am CST
Posted by frogbat on November 5th, 2018 @ 7:18am CST
Was hoping that for prime he'd have a trailer that transformed into a micromaster base
So it could be a voyager prime with trailer that acts as a weaponiser / armour (which would suck a bit for those like me already ordered the voyager prime)
A repaint of Ultra Magnus with new armour
Or something else
So it could be a voyager prime with trailer that acts as a weaponiser / armour (which would suck a bit for those like me already ordered the voyager prime)
A repaint of Ultra Magnus with new armour
Or something else
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Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 5th, 2018 @ 7:31am CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 5th, 2018 @ 7:31am CST
I would be interesting in an OP trailer that unfolds into a massive display rack for all of the C.O.M.B.A.T. accessories. Could even just be the G1 trailer with lots of 5mm ports inside.
Thouh it occured to me that Energon Prime would lend itself well to the gimmick if his drones were weaponizers.
Thouh it occured to me that Energon Prime would lend itself well to the gimmick if his drones were weaponizers.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 7:42am CST
That's a good idea (the one about the trailer holding the accessories) but then again so is the trailer unfolding to be a Micromasters
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 7:42am CST
Caelus wrote:I would be interesting in an OP trailer that unfolds into a massive display rack for all of the C.O.M.B.A.T. accessories. Could even just be the G1 trailer with lots of 5mm ports inside.
Thouh it occured to me that Energon Prime would lend itself well to the gimmick if his drones were weaponizers.
That's a good idea (the one about the trailer holding the accessories) but then again so is the trailer unfolding to be a Micromasters
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Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 5th, 2018 @ 8:21am CST
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 5th, 2018 @ 8:21am CST
Micromasters base is possible, after all Hasbro promoted Magnus's trailer's compatibility with the Micromasters.
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Posted by galvatron00 on November 5th, 2018 @ 8:37am CST
Posted by galvatron00 on November 5th, 2018 @ 8:37am CST
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Posted by galvatron00 on November 5th, 2018 @ 8:41am CST
Posted by galvatron00 on November 5th, 2018 @ 8:41am CST
Admittedly, that's a TON more weathering on the chest than I would ad.
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Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 5th, 2018 @ 9:36am CST
Posted by Rodimus Knight on November 5th, 2018 @ 9:36am CST
I just want a nice Voyager Class Prime that comes with a Trailer that turns into a base, like the old school days. Put it in a leader class box but come on, lets get some trailer base action. I would think with the whole weapons thing, the base trailer would have been a must.
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 5th, 2018 @ 10:28am CST
Here's a thought that just crossed my mind. I'm not sure a micromaster base or even just a weapons rack type of trailer could even work in Siege for a regular leader class release. Unless the trailer can partsform into some armor, I just don't see it fitting in the leader sized box and I'm certain that anything in a regular release is going to have to fit.
I mean, they can still plan out a base mode, but they would also need some type of other mode that would allow it to fit within the packaging.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 5th, 2018 @ 10:28am CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:I just want a nice Voyager Class Prime that comes with a Trailer that turns into a base, like the old school days. Put it in a leader class box but come on, lets get some trailer base action. I would think with the whole weapons thing, the base trailer would have been a must.
Here's a thought that just crossed my mind. I'm not sure a micromaster base or even just a weapons rack type of trailer could even work in Siege for a regular leader class release. Unless the trailer can partsform into some armor, I just don't see it fitting in the leader sized box and I'm certain that anything in a regular release is going to have to fit.
I mean, they can still plan out a base mode, but they would also need some type of other mode that would allow it to fit within the packaging.
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Posted by YoungPrime on November 5th, 2018 @ 10:43am CST
Posted by YoungPrime on November 5th, 2018 @ 10:43am CST
Wow the Leader Class lines have been so disappointing the last 2 years...
I wouldn't even be buying Shockwave if Amazon didn't give me a courtesy credit regarding that CounterPunch pre-order debacle. Otherwise that Shockwave "armor" is NOT Leader class worthy.
That Seige UM is not replacing my CW version and the last thing I need is another OP especially if I'm buying this upcomming Voyager class one.
....There are so many characters that are Leader class worthy (Deathsaurus, Scorponok, Thunderclash, Star Saber, etc.) yet Hasbro continues to give us OP's.
If it is a Voyager OP that's finally getting a G1 trailer with Roller then why be so secretive about it... There's no way I'm buying another Voyager OP that might come with a trailer for Leader class price if I already grabbed the Voyager plus there's no other OP that I'm interested in.
I wouldn't even be buying Shockwave if Amazon didn't give me a courtesy credit regarding that CounterPunch pre-order debacle. Otherwise that Shockwave "armor" is NOT Leader class worthy.
That Seige UM is not replacing my CW version and the last thing I need is another OP especially if I'm buying this upcomming Voyager class one.
....There are so many characters that are Leader class worthy (Deathsaurus, Scorponok, Thunderclash, Star Saber, etc.) yet Hasbro continues to give us OP's.
If it is a Voyager OP that's finally getting a G1 trailer with Roller then why be so secretive about it... There's no way I'm buying another Voyager OP that might come with a trailer for Leader class price if I already grabbed the Voyager plus there's no other OP that I'm interested in.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 10:48am CST
To be fair, I think it's likely that scorpy will see a release as the the titan after omega since he's the last big guy to sort out (who we get for titans after that will be interesting to see)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 10:48am CST
YoungPrime wrote:Wow the Leader Class lines have been so disappointing the last 2 years...
I wouldn't even be buying Shockwave if Amazon didn't give me a courtesy credit regarding that CounterPunch pre-order debacle. Otherwise that Shockwave "armor" is NOT Leader class worthy.
That Seige UM is not replacing my CW version and the last thing I need is another OP especially if I'm buying this upcomming Voyager class one.
....There are so many characters that are Leader class worthy (Deathsaurus, Scorponok, Thunderclash, Star Saber, etc.) yet Hasbro continues to give us OP's.
If it is a Voyager OP that's finally getting a G1 trailer with Roller then why be so secretive about it... There's no way I'm buying another Voyager OP that might come with a trailer for Leader class price if I already grabbed the Voyager plus there's no other OP that I'm interested in.
To be fair, I think it's likely that scorpy will see a release as the the titan after omega since he's the last big guy to sort out (who we get for titans after that will be interesting to see)
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Posted by MediaMan18 on November 5th, 2018 @ 11:37am CST
Posted by MediaMan18 on November 5th, 2018 @ 11:37am CST
All I care about getting is that Shockwave, if only for that epic Macross/Guiltaur mode!
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Posted by Flashwave on November 5th, 2018 @ 11:53am CST
Posted by Flashwave on November 5th, 2018 @ 11:53am CST
All of this talk about a Leader Prime makes me hesitant to pull trigger on the Voyager now. I really only wanted that toy for the accessories and the 5mm ports. Not that its not a nice sculpt, but I ha e a lot of nice sculpts of Optimus.
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Posted by datguy86 on November 5th, 2018 @ 11:54am CST
Posted by datguy86 on November 5th, 2018 @ 11:54am CST
Wouldn't mind grabbing an extra Op and Megs to make Guiltar, then an extra Brunt and Shockwave to turn the Megs in Galvatron. Dunno if either would work, but no harm in trying.
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Posted by YoungPrime on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:04pm CST
Posted by YoungPrime on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:04pm CST
There's no doubt that Titan Class Scorpy is coming after Omega but unlike all these OP's that Hasbro releases every year, I would buy both a Leader Class and Titan class Scorponok and this would've been the best time to release a Leader class instead of the 3 we're getting now (again Shocky should've been a Voyager). But whatever... If they still make their bottom line then go OP crazy. But it's not like John Wadren hasn't been acting like he's been listening to collect's demands during Comic Con panels lately.ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Wow the Leader Class lines have been so disappointing the last 2 years...
I wouldn't even be buying Shockwave if Amazon didn't give me a courtesy credit regarding that CounterPunch pre-order debacle. Otherwise that Shockwave "armor" is NOT Leader class worthy.
That Seige UM is not replacing my CW version and the last thing I need is another OP especially if I'm buying this upcomming Voyager class one.
....There are so many characters that are Leader class worthy (Deathsaurus, Scorponok, Thunderclash, Star Saber, etc.) yet Hasbro continues to give us OP's.
If it is a Voyager OP that's finally getting a G1 trailer with Roller then why be so secretive about it... There's no way I'm buying another Voyager OP that might come with a trailer for Leader class price if I already grabbed the Voyager plus there's no other OP that I'm interested in.
To be fair, I think it's likely that scorpy will see a release as the the titan after omega since he's the last big guy to sort out (who we get for titans after that will be interesting to see)
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Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:09pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:09pm CST
Oh no argument here about Shockwave but I do believe it's because the voyager slots were full. Though on saying that, did they need to release Springer here? Or is that because they plan on releasing all the wreckers over the next three years...
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Posted by Stryker P28 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:15pm CST
Posted by Stryker P28 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:15pm CST
well they did put topspin in Titans Return
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Posted by zatara1701 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:21pm CST
Posted by zatara1701 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:21pm CST
Soooooo, what's the possibility that the Leader Prime is just the Titans Return: Siege on Cybertron Prime? I was poking around online and saw that Prime and it made since that they might sell it solo...
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:23pm CST
I think we are pretty set on wreckers aside from Ironfist, with impactor coming later next year. I think Springer was chosen because they wanted another autobot for a voyager slot (since most are decepticons) and of all the voyager class toys one would need for this redo of G1, Gen Springer was both the oldest triplechanger left to redo and least true to his G1 look (boxy helicopter). Of course that also goes for Sandstorm but that character is much less famous. Basically, I think they wanted all their heavy hitters present in Siege.
Who else would you have picked to fill the vyager slot for an Autobot?
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:23pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Oh no argument here about Shockwave but I do believe it's because the voyager slots were full. Though on saying that, did they need to release Springer here? Or is that because they plan on releasing all the wreckers over the next three years...
I think we are pretty set on wreckers aside from Ironfist, with impactor coming later next year. I think Springer was chosen because they wanted another autobot for a voyager slot (since most are decepticons) and of all the voyager class toys one would need for this redo of G1, Gen Springer was both the oldest triplechanger left to redo and least true to his G1 look (boxy helicopter). Of course that also goes for Sandstorm but that character is much less famous. Basically, I think they wanted all their heavy hitters present in Siege.
Who else would you have picked to fill the vyager slot for an Autobot?
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Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:26pm CST
We basically know verything we are getting next year in Siege and those two are not there so I guess the chances are 0%?
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:26pm CST
crash8burnt wrote:What r the chances we may get Bumblebee and Blaster in this line?
We basically know verything we are getting next year in Siege and those two are not there so I guess the chances are 0%?
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:36pm CST
I would say zero chance since Takara already sold it once solo, and a second time packaged with Godbomber and the Cab/Minerva headmasters in addition to Hasbro's box set release.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:36pm CST
zatara1701 wrote:Soooooo, what's the possibility that the Leader Prime is just the Titans Return: Siege on Cybertron Prime? I was poking around online and saw that Prime and it made since that they might sell it solo...
Just a thought.
I would say zero chance since Takara already sold it once solo, and a second time packaged with Godbomber and the Cab/Minerva headmasters in addition to Hasbro's box set release.
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:43pm CST
Honestly Springer makes sense for the very reasons you outlined. The only other Autobot I can think of that would fit that size class and hasn't had a recent update would be Grapple, hardly a heavy hitter.
Although, this kind of points out the possible error in going so true to scale for robot modes. Leaders are shrinking in height, or are being regulated to Voyagers with extras, and you have a some size classes that are going to be dominated by 1 faction or the other.
While a generations Barricade based off his movie self is pretty cool, I have to think that it was likely the result of them trying to figure out how to get another Decepticon into the deluxe scale.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:43pm CST
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Oh no argument here about Shockwave but I do believe it's because the voyager slots were full. Though on saying that, did they need to release Springer here? Or is that because they plan on releasing all the wreckers over the next three years...
I think we are pretty set on wreckers aside from Ironfist, with impactor coming later next year. I think Springer was chosen because they wanted another autobot for a voyager slot (since most are decepticons) and of all the voyager class toys one would need for this redo of G1, Gen Springer was both the oldest triplechanger left to redo and least true to his G1 look (boxy helicopter). Of course that also goes for Sandstorm but that character is much less famous. Basically, I think they wanted all their heavy hitters present in Siege.
Who else would you have picked to fill the voyager slot for an Autobot?
Honestly Springer makes sense for the very reasons you outlined. The only other Autobot I can think of that would fit that size class and hasn't had a recent update would be Grapple, hardly a heavy hitter.
Although, this kind of points out the possible error in going so true to scale for robot modes. Leaders are shrinking in height, or are being regulated to Voyagers with extras, and you have a some size classes that are going to be dominated by 1 faction or the other.
While a generations Barricade based off his movie self is pretty cool, I have to think that it was likely the result of them trying to figure out how to get another Decepticon into the deluxe scale.
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Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:55pm CST
I am certain thats the case, plus with using an 'existing' mold. There are a few interviews out there with hasbro throughout the years where you see how important these more practical factors are in what you find in a wave/line like colour/faction variation, and fitting figures for a particular price point.
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 12:55pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:While a generations Barricade based off his movie self is pretty cool, I have to think that it was likely the result of them trying to figure out how to get another Decepticon into the deluxe scale.
I am certain thats the case, plus with using an 'existing' mold. There are a few interviews out there with hasbro throughout the years where you see how important these more practical factors are in what you find in a wave/line like colour/faction variation, and fitting figures for a particular price point.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992645)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:03pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:03pm CST
@will that is true, there isnt alot of Autobots they could do at that size, at this point in the timeline they are aiming at.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992646)
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:16pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:16pm CST
Thanks to a few different sources like Ladypapa on E-bay and In Demand Toys on Facebook we have all the stock images for the wave 1 figures in Transformers Siege. These give us our best look yet for most of these figures since these are not renders but images of the final toys. Of course thanks to the recent Seibertron galleries of Optimus and Megatron, we know that the deco for the weathering effects can change from figure to figure, but these images are stil our best idea of what the toys will look like in hand.
We get a very good look at the simplistic Magnus cab for isntance which seems to have as bad an alt mode as POTP Optimus' cab mode with exposed arms, hands and feet. Of course all this visible robot kibble dissapears from view when the trailer is attached. We also ge a very good look at Hound's alt boxy mode. We thank fellow Seibertronian Itscramtastic for letting us know of these.
The Siege line is currently hitting retail but we only have actual sightings for the Battle Masters so far so if you find any of these other toys at Walmart or Target or elsewhere, please let us know! And be sure to share any sighting in the sightings forum.
We get a very good look at the simplistic Magnus cab for isntance which seems to have as bad an alt mode as POTP Optimus' cab mode with exposed arms, hands and feet. Of course all this visible robot kibble dissapears from view when the trailer is attached. We also ge a very good look at Hound's alt boxy mode. We thank fellow Seibertronian Itscramtastic for letting us know of these.
The Siege line is currently hitting retail but we only have actual sightings for the Battle Masters so far so if you find any of these other toys at Walmart or Target or elsewhere, please let us know! And be sure to share any sighting in the sightings forum.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992647)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:21pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:21pm CST
What's that under the launcher in ums box?
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992648)
Posted by Emerje on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:27pm CST
Between TRU closing, Hasbro being forced to release a bunch of employees, Leader class shrinking, and a lot of Walmarts not even carrying Leaders I'm not sure if we'll see another Titan after Scorponok assuming we get him at all. Hasbro seems to be having increasing trouble getting large Transformers into US retail and they aren't worth the risks.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:27pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, I think it's likely that scorpy will see a release as the the titan after omega since he's the last big guy to sort out (who we get for titans after that will be interesting to see)
Between TRU closing, Hasbro being forced to release a bunch of employees, Leader class shrinking, and a lot of Walmarts not even carrying Leaders I'm not sure if we'll see another Titan after Scorponok assuming we get him at all. Hasbro seems to be having increasing trouble getting large Transformers into US retail and they aren't worth the risks.
Emerje
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992649)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:28pm CST
I think it's the leg weapons that are usually just on the side and left there for the stock photos
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 5th, 2018 @ 1:28pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:What's that under the launcher in ums box?
I think it's the leg weapons that are usually just on the side and left there for the stock photos
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992655)
Posted by Seibertron on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:04pm CST
Aside from Toys R Us, when were any Titan Class figures found at retail in the US?
Posted by Seibertron on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:04pm CST
Emerje wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, I think it's likely that scorpy will see a release as the the titan after omega since he's the last big guy to sort out (who we get for titans after that will be interesting to see)
Between TRU closing, Hasbro being forced to release a bunch of employees, Leader class shrinking, and a lot of Walmarts not even carrying Leaders I'm not sure if we'll see another Titan after Scorponok assuming we get him at all. Hasbro seems to be having increasing trouble getting large Transformers into US retail and they aren't worth the risks.
Emerje
Aside from Toys R Us, when were any Titan Class figures found at retail in the US?
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992656)
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:08pm CST
Do you count specialty stores like Think Geek? And do you count Costco? There were titans at both those locations. I am unaware if Predaking was found at those.
Anyways, Enerje, while i see where you are coming from all the evidence presented is circumstantial. We can theorise, but I see no solid proof that Hasbro is abandoning Titans . I remember us bign concerned last year that there would be nothing after Predaking, but he is still being sold at the largest retailers in the US and Hasbro was happy to present us with Omega Supreme. It honestly seems like business as usual. Sure the channels of purchasing are changing but that is for retail as a whole and it doesnt mean there are less sales.
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:08pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Emerje wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, I think it's likely that scorpy will see a release as the the titan after omega since he's the last big guy to sort out (who we get for titans after that will be interesting to see)
Between TRU closing, Hasbro being forced to release a bunch of employees, Leader class shrinking, and a lot of Walmarts not even carrying Leaders I'm not sure if we'll see another Titan after Scorponok assuming we get him at all. Hasbro seems to be having increasing trouble getting large Transformers into US retail and they aren't worth the risks.
Emerje
Aside from Toys R Us, when were any Titan Class figures found at retail in the US?
Do you count specialty stores like Think Geek? And do you count Costco? There were titans at both those locations. I am unaware if Predaking was found at those.
Anyways, Enerje, while i see where you are coming from all the evidence presented is circumstantial. We can theorise, but I see no solid proof that Hasbro is abandoning Titans . I remember us bign concerned last year that there would be nothing after Predaking, but he is still being sold at the largest retailers in the US and Hasbro was happy to present us with Omega Supreme. It honestly seems like business as usual. Sure the channels of purchasing are changing but that is for retail as a whole and it doesnt mean there are less sales.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992657)
Posted by Seibertron on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:13pm CST
I think I count Think Geek, they're just not a big enough chain for me to even consider. I don't even think there are any around where I live, I've never been to one. Metroplex is the only one who showed up at Costco, which I never saw at the Costcos around me. They were at clearance prices so I'm not even sure if it was an actual regular Costco stocked item or they just bought palettes at discounted prices and blew them out. Either way, the point was that Walmart, Target and other non-Toys R Us big box stores didn't carry Titan Class figures in the first place.
Posted by Seibertron on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:13pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Do you count specialty stores like Think Geek? And do you count Costco? There were titans at both those locations. I am unaware if Predaking was found at those.
I think I count Think Geek, they're just not a big enough chain for me to even consider. I don't even think there are any around where I live, I've never been to one. Metroplex is the only one who showed up at Costco, which I never saw at the Costcos around me. They were at clearance prices so I'm not even sure if it was an actual regular Costco stocked item or they just bought palettes at discounted prices and blew them out. Either way, the point was that Walmart, Target and other non-Toys R Us big box stores didn't carry Titan Class figures in the first place.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992659)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:25pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:25pm CST
OOH, Springer!
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992660)
Posted by Cyberpath on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:38pm CST
I keep forgetting that they're supposed to have "Cybertronian" alt-molds. Because really, only Starscream and Shockwave look the part. Not that I mind!
That "hover" mode for Prime is funny.
Posted by Cyberpath on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:38pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Thanks to a few different sources like Ladypapa on E-bay and In Demand Toys on Facebook we have all the stock images for the wave 1 figures in Transformers Siege.
I keep forgetting that they're supposed to have "Cybertronian" alt-molds. Because really, only Starscream and Shockwave look the part. Not that I mind!
That "hover" mode for Prime is funny.
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992661)
Posted by Emerje on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:42pm CST
Posted by Emerje on November 5th, 2018 @ 2:42pm CST
So Ultra Magnus' symbol is just slightly more elaborate in the bottom corner than the regular Deluxe symbol so it really does appear that they are for rank rather than size class.
Meanwhile Shockwave's is entirely unique (it might have V in the bottom still, hard to tell), resembling an atom since he's a scientist. The Decepticons seem to have a lot more variation in their symbols than the Autobots do.
Also, a better look at Cog's tells us that it really is a combination of the Deluxe and Battle Master symbols. Still no clear shot of the Micro Master symbols, but they do appear to be the same as the Battle Masters.
So here's the symbols we know along with possible/theoretical ranks. Curious if Leader class Optimus will have the same symbol as the Voyager or if they'll change up the top portion.
Autobot Leader
Autobot Commander
Autobot Soldier
Autobot Weaponizer
Autobot Battle Master/Micro Master(?)
Decepticon Leader
Decepticon Scientist
Decepticon Duocon
Decepticon Battle Master/Micro Master(?)
There's still a lot we haven't seen yet.
Emerje
Meanwhile Shockwave's is entirely unique (it might have V in the bottom still, hard to tell), resembling an atom since he's a scientist. The Decepticons seem to have a lot more variation in their symbols than the Autobots do.
Also, a better look at Cog's tells us that it really is a combination of the Deluxe and Battle Master symbols. Still no clear shot of the Micro Master symbols, but they do appear to be the same as the Battle Masters.
So here's the symbols we know along with possible/theoretical ranks. Curious if Leader class Optimus will have the same symbol as the Voyager or if they'll change up the top portion.
Autobot Leader
Autobot Commander
Autobot Soldier
Autobot Weaponizer
Autobot Battle Master/Micro Master(?)
Decepticon Leader
Decepticon Scientist
Decepticon Duocon
Decepticon Battle Master/Micro Master(?)
There's still a lot we haven't seen yet.
Emerje
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992662)
Posted by Cheetron on November 5th, 2018 @ 3:13pm CST
Posted by Cheetron on November 5th, 2018 @ 3:13pm CST
The more I see of ultra Magnus, the less I want him. He just keeps looming clunkier and bulkier than before. I'm sticking with my CW Magnus
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992663)
Posted by Emerje on November 5th, 2018 @ 3:18pm CST
If it were business as usual then Hasbro wouldn't be laying off 10% of their work force (estimated between 500 and 600 employees) as a direct result of TRU closing in the US right before their busiest time of the year. For us it was just a matter of going somewhere else to buy the same things, but for Hasbro it's been a massive blow. Don't forget, all those Trypticons that were found at Ollie's for cheap came directly from Hasbro when TRU canceled their orders, coupled with all the other Hasbro stock found there. That's a huge hit for them to absorb, it isn't like when Amazon sells them for cheap at Christmas after Hasbro already got their money. Seeing as how you can still get super cheap Trypticons online it's easy to guess that Hasbro will have to greatly pull back the production numbers on Omega Supreme if they haven't already started doing so with Predaking. It wouldn't take much for the numbers to become unprofitable and Titans no longer being a thing in 2020.
Let's face it, Hasbro relies on the gullibility of retailers to keep buying these big ticket items in larger quantities than they can ever hope to possibly sell, and they've now lost the most gullible of all.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on November 5th, 2018 @ 3:18pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Sure the channels of purchasing are changing but that is for retail as a whole and it doesnt mean there are less sales.
If it were business as usual then Hasbro wouldn't be laying off 10% of their work force (estimated between 500 and 600 employees) as a direct result of TRU closing in the US right before their busiest time of the year. For us it was just a matter of going somewhere else to buy the same things, but for Hasbro it's been a massive blow. Don't forget, all those Trypticons that were found at Ollie's for cheap came directly from Hasbro when TRU canceled their orders, coupled with all the other Hasbro stock found there. That's a huge hit for them to absorb, it isn't like when Amazon sells them for cheap at Christmas after Hasbro already got their money. Seeing as how you can still get super cheap Trypticons online it's easy to guess that Hasbro will have to greatly pull back the production numbers on Omega Supreme if they haven't already started doing so with Predaking. It wouldn't take much for the numbers to become unprofitable and Titans no longer being a thing in 2020.
Let's face it, Hasbro relies on the gullibility of retailers to keep buying these big ticket items in larger quantities than they can ever hope to possibly sell, and they've now lost the most gullible of all.
Emerje
Re: Full List of All Known Upcoming Transformers Siege Deluxe, Voyager and Leader Figures (1992670)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on November 5th, 2018 @ 3:43pm CST
Posted by Lunatic Prime on November 5th, 2018 @ 3:43pm CST
Why are the Battle Master's weapons detachable?
And why do they have 3 mm pegs/handles? As far as I can see there are no figures with 3 mm ports in this line.
And why do they have 3 mm pegs/handles? As far as I can see there are no figures with 3 mm ports in this line.
