Footage of Robots In Disguise Season 2

Hellscream9999, I'm excited for Season 2 as much as all of you guys. But, the new orange Decepticon in the trailer is definitely not Crazybolt, as he is a horned lizard, and this new one is in fact an alligator. The website named, TFW2005.com assumed that the Alligator is a Minicon, in which he didn't appeared to be.

Sometime today, if you please, show us the trailer for the Decepticons, since we do saw the trailer for the Autobots. I do really want to see which Cons are debuting and which ones are returning.

psj333 wrote:Sometime today, if you please, show us the trailer for the Decepticons, since we do saw the trailer for the Autobots. I do really want to see which Cons are debuting and which ones are returning.

You sound like he possesses a Decepticon trailer that he's held back from showing to us. This Autobots one came from Hasbro and was posted on YouTube by Hasbro. None of us have any control over these trailers. You assume that anyone can just show a Decepticon trailer when there is none to show.

psj333 wrote: But, the new orange Decepticon in the trailer is definitely not Crazybolt, as he is a horned lizard, and this new one is in fact an alligator.

Crazybolt isn't a horned lizard, he's just a made up reptilian looking Decepticon! Same with the new little reptile character, he's not any particular species, he's just a lizard and not a alligator. How do I know this? Alligator's can't jump like that, and having one do so in show would really stretch the credibility of it's already subpar animal-gimmick 'Cons.

Madeus_Prime wrote:Crazybolt isn't a horned lizard, he's just a made up reptilian looking Decepticon! Same with the new little reptile character, he's not any particular species, he's just a lizard and not a alligator. How do I know this? Alligator's can't jump like that, and having one do so in show would really stretch the credibility of it's already subpar animal-gimmick 'Cons.

Well, that orange lizard in the cartoon that Hasbro just showed us isn't Crazybolt, is he? Is the new orange lizard a Minicon like Fixit or a Decepticon like Steeljaw?

psj333 wrote:Well, that orange lizard in the cartoon that Hasbro just showed us isn't Crazybolt, is he? Is the new orange lizard a Minicon like Fixit or a Decepticon like Steeljaw?

I'll agree with you on that one, and I wasn't saying he is Crazybolt, I'm simply arguing your instant branding of the character as being based on a certain kind of lizard is hasty.

And we don't know if that's a Minicon or Decepticon, or both. Nobody on here is holding a gigantic leather-bound answer key to the show, we know only as much as you do.

Visual designer and illustrator Augusto Barranco has tweeted some old concepts for the Transformers: Robots in Disguise series, as the second season rolls out its carpet and teasers (which you can see here). Namely, we get a look at Micronus, Optimus Prime's Yoda-esque mentor and envoy of the Primes, and some more defined art of Ped. Check them out mirrored below!

Micronus Prime certainly looks like a mystical bad ass in that art (and the Covenant of Prime book), shame the version from the show is all squat like the other Minicons in the series.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Micronus Prime certainly looks like a mystical bad ass in that art (and the Covenant of Prime book), shame the version from the show is all squat like the other Minicons in the series.

Emerje

Pretty much, yeah.

I mean, come on:

There's some more concept art from both RID and Prime in his Twitter.

Unused robot concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/671457047427325952

Clampdown concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/671450473250103297

Concept art for an unused vehicle - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/634150506152112128

TF: Prime guns concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/630880048862527488

Prime Bumblebee's fictional car model concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/618945667721900032

Prime Shockwave tank mode concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/618944780127502336

Prime Decepticons keyart matte painting - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/616319676637786112

Agent Fowler keyart painting - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/615607341455544320

TF: Prime Nemesis interior art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/615606384420257793

TF: Prime 13 Primes matte painting - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/603274478626279424

Prime Soundwave concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/599353077536198656

Bisk facial expressions - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/591669560043905024

Bisk altmode concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/591669033520345089

Bisk robot mode concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/591668339841183744

Prime Optimus Prime "on Cybertron" concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/591305706516652034

TF: Prime New York City matte painting - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/590229383543189504

Prime Predaking transformation - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/586595682598780928

Prime Bumblebee black altmode concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/586594991528513536

Prime Optimus Prime damaged head - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/583340599169798144

Sideswipe altmode concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/581212847855792128

Sideswipe darker altmode early concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/581211268209573888

TF: Prime Matrix of Leadership - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/578694598412763136

Underbite facial expressions - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/576888938154983426

Underbite flying altmode early concept art (this was considered before they decided to make him a ground-based vehicle) - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/576888382288064513

More flying altmode Underbite concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/576888039105908736

The original sketch of Underbite - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/576887588679593984

Early development effect designs for Underbite - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/576886877803835392

Underbite early development art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/576886329524420608

More Underbite early development art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/576885579113074688

Underbite altmode concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/576880192817233920

Underbite robot mode concept art - https://twitter.com/Augusto_Art_Dir/status/576879012712075265

And all this goes all the way back to the beginning of his Twitter. Wow.

Well, at least all the blizzard decos have a reason! And Overload will appear! nice!

Should the Decepticons from Season 1 choose to break free and re-appear in Season 2, I really do hope that they all form into an army by Steeljaw and take on the Autobots all at once. Also, if Pseudo chooses to return in Season 2, I really do hope that he remain as this:

http://www.dereila.ca/whispers/LarvaID.jpg

and not evolved into this:


http://images.wisegeek.com/ladybug.jpg

However, if a ladybug Decepticon chooses to debut in Season 2, I would suspect that is definitely not him.

Ha! The show isn't canceled after season 2! It's getting a season 4!


Er, what I mean is, one of the show's storyboarders, Kirk Van Wormer, Tweeted about a week ago that he and his coworkers are working on the show's "season 4", which is odd considering there hasn't been any word of a third season yet.

Sabrblade wrote:Ha! The show isn't canceled after season 2! It's getting a season 4!


Er, what I mean is, one of the show's storyboarders, Kirk Van Wormer, Tweeted about a week ago that he and his coworkers are working on the show's "season 4", which is odd considering there hasn't been any word of a third season yet.

If this does in fact turn out to be true, I will be oh so happy

And we get a new teaser trailer for season 2:



Though, it can only be watched directly on YouTube.

Nice!

Fellow Seibertronians, hot on the heels of the Meet the Autobots video - which featured clips from Transformers RID Season2 - we get our first teaser trailer for season 2. Although, it can only be watched on YouTube, we also get an interesting post on Kirk Van Wormer's Twitter account that seems to simultaneously announce and confirm a season 4 of RID, despite there being no news of a season 3 at this point - we have screencapped the message below, in case of changes from on high.



Are you excited for season 2 of RID? Even more so for another 2 after that? Check out the trailer, and leave your thoughts on this announcement in the comments below.

They might be skipping a season, but my guess is it's a typo

More RID, Im happy.

Chances are that season 4 refers to the upcoming rescue bots season or it's a mistype.



I doubt this is confirmation especially with prior news about rid ending after two seasons and a movie.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I doubt this is confirmation especially with prior news about rid ending after two seasons and a movie.

Link to said news? Having trouble finding it.

While I am all for this I am sticking to my guns and calling this a typo.

Any business professional would know better than to announce something like this on Twitter.

See this:

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=573CFD69

This screenshot from the latest trailer shown from the latest season 2 trailer shows that Grimock is fighting with a brand new Decepticon called Ransack. He is not to be confused with Ransack the Minicon. This is Ransack the Insecticon! He is in his robot mode. Please let me know if you found a picture of his alt-mode. Does he have a vehicle mode like Kickback, or does he turn into an insect for sure? I do believe that he will have a toy one day, as he had already been a toy numerous times from multiple generations since G1.

RevTibe wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I doubt this is confirmation especially with prior news about rid ending after two seasons and a movie.

Link to said news? Having trouble finding it.

There was no confirmation. It was TFW jumping the gun on declaring the end of "the kiddie garbage show that they everyone hates".

Sabrblade wrote:

RevTibe wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I doubt this is confirmation especially with prior news about rid ending after two seasons and a movie.

Link to said news? Having trouble finding it.

There was no confirmation. It was TFW jumping the gun on declaring the end of "the kiddie garbage show that they everyone hates".

Classic Transformers fandom.

In the comments below the Tweet, when asked what he meant by "season 4", Wormer seems to be very coy about clarifying on that. If it were a typo, he'd probably just come out and say so. But since he isn't, maybe "season 4" means something to him that's different from what it means to us. Perhaps, he meant the fourth season of production rather than broadcast. In this case, maybe the first season of production was the first half of the first televised season, with the second season of production being the second half of the first TV season, the third production season being all of the TV season 2 (since it's shorter), thus making the third TV season being the fourth production season.

To give an example of something like this, Beast Wars had something similar going on behind the scenes back in the day, in which Doug Parker (Terrorsaur) once mentioned online that he was then-currently doing voice work for "season 3" of the show when season 2 hadn't even started yet. What Parker meant by this was actually season 2 because, on the production side of things, one season is 13 episodes and season 1 of Beast Wars had 26 episodes, so it was more like two seasons from the production side despite all 26 episodes airing on TV as a single season.

Hasbro Studios confirmed the RID series length at 45 x 22mins. Season 2 will be 16 episodes long and end with a movie that equals three episodes. It was originally supposed to be 78 x 22 mins. but that has now changed. Here's a link confirming this:

http://www.asiatvforum.com/en/Exhibitor ... n-Disguise

And here's an image from Hasbro Studios confirming this as well:



So, while it is possible that a Season 3 will still happen, it is highly unlikely considering the change in the total number of episodes and the fact that a movie will end Season 2 just like Predacons Rising ended Season 3 of Prime.

I recall reading somewhere about that being the "current" episode count rather than the "final" count.

at least in the teaser we got to see those spheroid minicons! although no sign of more Overload yet!

Oh joy, the possibility of two more years of this stuff clouting shelves at my Walmart.

Fingers crossed it's a type for 2 or 3

Meh, I tried getting into this series and couldn't. I'm ready for some fresh material.

At this point, I really do hope for a season 3. I do enjoy the show and I want more of it. It did click with me. And take a grain of salt when referring to TFW "news" on occasion

saving so much money on this toyline its crazy. i just buy the warrior class figs. they are so few and far between though.

Just end this show already.

Smokescreen85 wrote:Hasbro Studios confirmed the RID series length at 45 x 22mins. Season 2 will be 16 episodes long and end with a movie that equals three episodes. It was originally supposed to be 78 x 22 mins. but that has now changed. Here's a link confirming this:

Cool, thanks for the data! I suppose that would line up with Hasbro's desire to the keep the focus on live-action during the relevant years - reminds me of this oddity we saw in 2014.Wonder whatever happened to those odd little badges - although I suppose 2015's would've been perfect for Steeljaw's gang... (and the prototype Predacon badge was likely a placeholder?)

In terms of toys, I get the distinct impression that the current Mini-cons are pretty popular!

omega666 wrote:Just end this show already.

no

Sabrblade wrote:There was no confirmation. It was TFW jumping the gun on declaring the end of "the kiddie garbage show that they everyone hates".

http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/11/17/hasb ... vie-305486

http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/01/04/tran ... nfo-307413


Looks like confirmation to me.


At the very least RID is ending with a movie.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:At the very least RID is ending with a movie.

as long as Michael Bay isn't allowed anywhere near it!

omega666 wrote:Just end this show already.

Oh sure we Hasbro studios is going to end a show before it starts because you wanted to.


See this is how all business works we listen to everything any fan says certainly no bad can come from that right?



Do I even need to write /s at the end?

Stuartmaximus wrote:
as long as Michael Bay isn't allowed anywhere near it!

They mean a movie like Predacons rising.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:
as long as Michael Bay isn't allowed anywhere near it!

They mean a movie like Predacons rising.

YES i know! i was only being sarcastic!

Stuartmaximus wrote:
YES i know! i was only being sarcastic!

That's what I thought but I was making sure.

Madeus Prime wrote:Oh joy, the possibility of two more years of this stuff clouting shelves at my Walmart.

Fingers crossed it's a type for 2 or 3

You do realize when they do end it they're just going to replace it with something similar, right? Hasbro's current model is to have three different lines going simultaneously with distinct, albeit overlapping, demographics. And then there's the movies in between that replaces all of the simplified cartoon toys with simplified movie toys. These things are never going away and will always be on the shelves as part of one line or another.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:Oh joy, the possibility of two more years of this stuff clouting shelves at my Walmart.

Fingers crossed it's a type for 2 or 3

You do realize when they do end it they're just going to replace it with something similar, right? Hasbro's current model is to have three different lines going simultaneously with distinct, albeit overlapping, demographics. And then there's the movies in between that replaces all of the simplified cartoon toys with simplified movie toys. These things are never going away and will always be on the shelves as part of one line or another.

Emerje

Yup, what Emerge said, plus Hasbro has made it pretty clear ever since G2 when the line practically died that the only way they get to ascertain that the brand remains in the public eye is to constantly have a media project backing it up for their core audience, which is 5-9 year olds. You cant get returning fans without getting some new fans in the first place.

Deadput wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:There was no confirmation. It was TFW jumping the gun on declaring the end of "the kiddie garbage show that they everyone hates".

http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/11/17/hasb ... vie-305486

http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/01/04/tran ... nfo-307413


Looks like confirmation to me.


At the very least RID is ending with a movie.

The only confirmation in that news they cited is that "Season 2 will be 16 episodes long with a movie to finish it." There is nothing in the news they link to that says "Season 2 is the final season and will end the RID cartoon for good."

Comparing this "shorter season plus a movie" format to Prime season 3 an Predacons Rising is poor form since Prime season 3 was already done and over with by the time Predacons Rising was even conceived. Preds Rising was not in any of the plans for season 3. It came along after the fact. This new movie, however, is slated to be the conclusion of RID season 2 before that season has even begun airing, meaning that this movie was planned much farther ahead of schedule when compared to how Preds Rising was created as an afterthought.

And I repeat, there has been NO official word of RID ending with season 2. All we know for sure is that season 2 is shorter and has a movie coming at the end of the season. Know what other Hasbro Studios cartoon did that and is still ongoing? My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Its usual season length is 26 episodes, but its third season was only 13 episodes and had the first Equestria Girls movie come after it before the 26-episode fourth season, which in turn was followed by the second Equastria Girls movie, and then the 26-episode fifth season (with the third Equestria Girls movie coming during season 5 instead of after). Therefore, a movie coming after a show's season does not automatically mean that the whole show is ending for good.

Besides, Wormer very clearly Tweeted the following in a comment below his original Tweet:

just starting up and it's looking to be a realllllllly fun season!

He has to be working on a new season since all of the storyboarding for season 2 and its movie would be long since done by now.

Sabrblade wrote: The only confirmation in that news they cited is that "Season 2 will be 16 episodes long with a movie to finish it." There is nothing in the news they link to that says "Season 2 is the final season and will end the RID cartoon for good."

Comparing this "shorter season plus a movie" format to Prime season 3 an Predacons Rising is poor form since Prime season 3 was already done and over with by the time Predacons Rising was even conceived. Preds Rising was not in any of the plans for season 3. It came along after the fact. This new movie, however, is slated to be the conclusion of RID season 2 before that season has even begun airing, meaning that this movie was planned much farther ahead of schedule when compared to how Preds Rising was created as an afterthought.

And I repeat, there has been NO official word of RID ending with season 2. All we know for sure is that season 2 is shorter and has a movie coming at the end of the season. Know what other Hasbro Studios cartoon did that and is still ongoing? My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Its usual season length is 26 episodes, but its third season was only 13 episodes and had the first Equestria Girls movie come after it before the 26-episode fourth season, which in turn was followed by the second Equastria Girls movie, and then the 26-episode fifth season (with the third Equestria Girls movie coming during season 5 instead of after). Therefore, a movie coming after a show's season does not automatically mean that the whole show is ending for good.

Besides, Wormer very clearly Tweeted the following in a comment below his original Tweet:

just starting up and it's looking to be a realllllllly fun season!

He has to be working on a new season since all of the storyboarding for season 2 and its movie would be long since done by now.

Regardless even if there is a third season I'm still going to take this with a grain of salt I don't think RID is going to have as good sales as Prime but that's just me.

Deadput wrote:Regardless even if there is a third season I'm still going to take this with a grain of salt I don't think RID is going to have as good sales as Prime but that's just me.

What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Regardless even if there is a third season I'm still going to take this with a grain of salt I don't think RID is going to have as good sales as Prime but that's just me.

What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

or the DVD's?

or maybe he's meaning the sales of the series to the networks?

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Regardless even if there is a third season I'm still going to take this with a grain of salt I don't think RID is going to have as good sales as Prime but that's just me.

What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

or maybe the DVD's?

DVDs are sold after the facts though so I dont think they can be real determinants. The only determenant for TV is viewer rate (neilsen rating).

william-james88 wrote:
What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

Yeah toys and merchandise in general I'm in no way saying that there are bad sales but I see a lot more rid on shelves then I ever saw Prime on shelves.


I'm just saying that sales are not possibly as good as Prime or a movie year.

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
What do you mean by sales? Are you referring to the toys?

Yeah toys and merchandise in general I'm in no way saying that there are bad sales but I see a lot more rid on shelves then I ever saw Prime on shelves.


I'm just saying that sales are not possibly as good as Prime or a movie year.

We cant base it on that this time. Waves in RID repeat older toys. The latest wave has more steeljaws. So if you see a bunch of steeljaws, it doesnt mean for sure that its the same from last year but it could be that your store got the latest wave and the newer figures sold out because collector found them.

Popularity for these toys is thus impossible to judge this time since no one can guarantee that those are the very same toys they see each time and not new stock.

I know this is just my own old man/jaded opinion, but it seems, ever since 2011, CN has dedicated themselves to providing only comedy based series. Any series that presented a sense of action and/or drama was canceled, many in a very undignified, and unsubstantiated fashion. Also, my jaded opinion is that pretty much all of these comedies suck. Thus when news of RiD15 being on CN was first announced, my perception was that it would not last long. The fact that it made it through its first season (26) episodes pretty much unhindered is nothing short of a miracle. Though If I understand correctly it has the typical worst time slot possible (I watch it online, so I really cant say, but its what I've heard). What boggles my mind though, is the logic that an action cartoon has to make a ton of money in toy sales to justify its existence. I mean I don't exactly see tons of Uncle Grandpa, Adventure Time, Teen Titans Go!, World of Gumball etc.. toys or merchandise being sold.

I have 2 kids. They love action series, are they an exception to the norm?. I mean... has there truly been a shift in the dynamic of kids today, that they only want stupid comedies, and that action cartoons are not in demand, or is that what CN just wants people to think?

IN any case, despite the seeming lack of evidence at this time, based on the recent history of CN, I do strongly believe the 2nd season of RiD15 will be its last. I have said this many times, but I am never to proud to happily admit if I am wrong, but CN recent history has killed so many great action series. Unless something changes within the senior management of CN, or perhaps the series goes over to Discovery Family, where it should have been in the first place (neither scenario I really see happening) I see very little prospects of RiD15 to go beyond season 2. And trust me... as someone who likes consistency, this saddens me. It is my ongoing torture being tied to the Transformers brand. Wanting an animated series with a long life, and never getting it because of the industries formula of rebranding the series every few years.