First Week Sales Data on War For Cybertron
Friday, July 2nd, 2010 4:32PM CDT
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Posted by SlyTF1 on July 2nd, 2010 @ 5:17pm CDT
Never mind, I included the total. I lied to myself.
Posted by North Sunrider on July 2nd, 2010 @ 5:26pm CDT
Posted by Bristleback on July 2nd, 2010 @ 6:56pm CDT
North Sunrider wrote:I have no idea if those numbers are healthy or not. The Euro sales seem rather disappointing to me, tbh.
Probably doesn't help that the PC sales aren't included.
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 2nd, 2010 @ 9:09pm CDT
there needs to be data on the wii, DS, and the PC
there is the propaganda that microsoft and sony mainly microsoft
want people to believe that they are the only gaming systems so
they only want to make games for those systems and only give sales data
for them. I would like to hear more about war for cybertron from those
other systems
Posted by Shadowman on July 2nd, 2010 @ 10:52pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:xbox and ps3 is only part of the picture
there needs to be data on the wii, DS, and the PC
there is the propaganda that microsoft and sony mainly microsoft
want people to believe that they are the only gaming systems so
they only want to make games for those systems and only give sales data
for them. I would like to hear more about war for cybertron from those
other systems
First off, this data is not propaganda from both Sony and Microsoft. In fact, there's no source as to where this data came from.
Second, click on the link in the first post, it has data for Wii and DS in there.
Third, I've heard nothing but bad things about the Wii version.
And finally, yes, these are very bad numbers. A million is considered good. Not great, just good. Less than a million, it's not good. For example, Daikatana sold twice as many copies as WfC has so far, at 200,000 units. Okami sold 600,000 units and it's still considered a commercial failure. Ultimately, poor sales doesn't mean a game is bad, but only a few hundred thousand isn't good.
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 2nd, 2010 @ 11:40pm CDT
Shadowman wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:xbox and ps3 is only part of the picture
there needs to be data on the wii, DS, and the PC
there is the propaganda that microsoft and sony mainly microsoft
want people to believe that they are the only gaming systems so
they only want to make games for those systems and only give sales data
for them. I would like to hear more about war for cybertron from those
other systems
First off, this data is not propaganda from both Sony and Microsoft. In fact, there's no source as to where this data came from.
Second, click on the link in the first post, it has data for Wii and DS in there.
Third, I've heard nothing but bad things about the Wii version.
And finally, yes, these are very bad numbers. A million is considered good. Not great, just good. Less than a million, it's not good. For example, Daikatana sold twice as many copies as WfC has so far, at 200,000 units. Okami sold 600,000 units and it's still considered a commercial failure. Ultimately, poor sales doesn't mean a game is bad, but only a few hundred thousand isn't good.
i meant they bully the market i find it easier to find games for xbox then anything else
second there may be data for ds and wii but this post didn't put that in its first posting
to make us think at first that is all there is
third show me were i said anything bad about the wii
i like the wii and i want one
as far as the game i have for the PC and it is the best TF game ever and furthermore its multiplayer
kicks ass
Posted by Roadbuster on July 2nd, 2010 @ 11:43pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on July 2nd, 2010 @ 11:53pm CDT
Posted by Absolute Zero on July 3rd, 2010 @ 12:18am CDT
First-Aid wrote:I hate to say it, but this goes to prove that G1-based games and toys are not going to sell well at all. Those who play games (for the majority) are too young to remember G1. They MIGHT know Beast Wars, but they are mainly raised on the movieverse. There have been a ton of new figs at my local TRU, and guess what the pegwarmers are? WFC Prime and Bumblebee. Tons of em left. They aren't selling. The WFC line will die with Soundwave and Megatron I think...we won't see anything beyond that. This is sad news indeed as I have thoroughly enjoyed the WFC game. I was truly hoping for a sequel, but I doubt that is going to happen. Let's face it: the Transformers we knew as kids are officially dead, market-wise.
You do know the average age of gamers is early/mid thirties right? It was 33 as of about 2 years ago.
*edit* After reading the link (apparently no one else did...) it's doing quite well. It's the number one selling game on the 360, and 4th on the PS3, and it's been out for a week and sold 100k copies. That's not Modern Warfare numbers, but it's still really good. If it can maintain good sales numbers for a couple of months, it might make the 1 million mark.
Posted by Blurrz on July 3rd, 2010 @ 12:39am CDT
First-Aid wrote:I hate to say it, but this goes to prove that G1-based games and toys are not going to sell well at all. Those who play games (for the majority) are too young to remember G1. They MIGHT know Beast Wars, but they are mainly raised on the movieverse. There have been a ton of new figs at my local TRU, and guess what the pegwarmers are? WFC Prime and Bumblebee. Tons of em left. They aren't selling. The WFC line will die with Soundwave and Megatron I think...we won't see anything beyond that. This is sad news indeed as I have thoroughly enjoyed the WFC game. I was truly hoping for a sequel, but I doubt that is going to happen. Let's face it: the Transformers we knew as kids are officially dead, market-wise.
Wut? I don't think any of the gamers even give a shit about Generation One, Beast Wars or whatever. It's all about Transformers, and as long as Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, and the select popular characters are there, then people will buy the game.
If War For Cybertron does not sell well, a Generation One-esque game is not the problem.
And WFC Prime and Bumblebee not selling well? Please, that's your TRU and you don't know if they're not selling well everyone else in the world. You need to hold your horses and not judge something that's a week old.
Posted by Neurie on July 3rd, 2010 @ 12:58am CDT
North Sunrider wrote:I have no idea if those numbers are healthy or not. The Euro sales seem rather disappointing to me, tbh.
Well there's a reason for the uk figures being low as the game was poorly supported by Activision, on release day it took me a trip to over 10 different locations to find a place that had a copy.
You see they only sent put stock to cover preorders, no game shops were given any stock for your Joe public to buy. In fact I was told by a manager to just go order it from play or amazon as activation were not sending them any stock at all. Neither Game, Gamestation, Tesco, Sainsburys, Asda, Comet, Currys, Morrisons or dixons had no stock, the o ly place I could get a copy was Smyths.
It's getting better gmc is starting to get stock as is Gamestation, hell it's the no1 game in hmvs games section for ps3.
We also don't have any walk through guides, the book exodus isn't released, there's no toys through the normal shops, the fame was not advertised or even put on the coming soon lists for games stores
Posted by Airhawk on July 3rd, 2010 @ 5:10am CDT
However I wouldn't say it not selling 1 million copies in a week is "end of the world the game has failed" scenario, especially considering how crap both Hasbro and Activisions marketing has been for this game.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 3rd, 2010 @ 6:18am CDT
Posted by g2grimmy64 on July 3rd, 2010 @ 7:44am CDT
2. Even if the sales are bad at this point, it's going to have more to do with the piss poor marketing job the powers-that-be did for the game, rather than it being G1; can anyone honestly tell me that they've seen any advertising for the game other than Gamestop's preorder-to-get-Shockwave spot? Non-Transfans had little-to-zero knowledge of this game prior to it's release, let alone whether the game is any good or not. The problem, if there is one, is that the game doesn't have enough of a reputation built up for every average Joe and his grandma to want to drop $60 a pop for it yet.
3. I can understand figuring in the PC version's sales in, however miniscule they may be compared to the console sales, but seeing as how the wii and DS versions are just spin-offs of the main game that was constantly checked and tweaked by the studio staff, which I would think is what most of us here are concerned about, I don't see the relevance of their sales to the PS3/Xbox/PC versions
Posted by Shadowman on July 3rd, 2010 @ 8:58am CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:second there may be data for ds and wii but this post didn't put that in its first posting
to make us think at first that is all there is
And that's Microsoft and Sony's fault how? Blurzz made the post, not Bill Gates.
Ultra Markus wrote:third show me were i said anything bad about the wii
You didn't. I never said you did. You said you wanted to know more about Cybertron Adventures, (The Wii version of WfC) and I told you what I had heard from other sources.
Roadbuster wrote:I wonder... did Activision or Hasbro actually do a decent advertisement campaign on TV? I haven't seen any commercials.
Nope. I only saw that Shockwave GameStop ad a couple of times. The game has gotten zero promotion otherwise.
It's Psychonauts all over again. A fantastic game seriously hurt by lack advertising.
Posted by Vicalliose on July 3rd, 2010 @ 10:47am CDT
Although the only reason I own it is because it's currently the only popular transformers game. And because my brother wanted it.
Otherwise, I don't like it that much.
Why?
Well I'll just name a few reasons.
It has a non-existent plot, terrible voice acting (at least for the Decepticons, and Starscream's voice makes me cringe), none of the weapons are that interesting, the shotguns are underpowered, a lack of character customization in multi (really I expected the heads to at least be interchangeable), a lack of support for melee combat, a lack of vote kick powers, when the host drops out of a game they drop you too rather than replacing them, Jazz is voiced by a generic, and overall this game brings nothing new or interesting to the table. Heck I'm kinda disappointed that they couldn't leave the cover system in along with the transformations.
And ultimatly, it's just an Unreal Tournament game that happens to contain Transformers. And I didn't even like Unreal to begin with.
I look at it kinda how I look at the new movies.
Take away the Transformers, and it's just another dumb Micheal Bay movie.
Well, I'm done venting. Time to go play some more WFC...
Posted by Shadowman on July 3rd, 2010 @ 12:31pm CDT
Vicalliose wrote:Well I guess I'm kinda happy that it's selling well. Kinda.
I just explained that it's not selling well. 100,000 is a very low number in video games sales, Daikatana, one of the worst games ever, sold twice as much as WfC has so far.
Vicalliose wrote:It has a non-existent plot
No it doesn't. I mean, it does if you skip all of the cutscenes. It actually does have a plot, one that happens to be significantly better than 99% of G1, actually.
Vicalliose wrote:terrible voice acting (at least for the Decepticons, and Starscream's voice makes me cringe)
Really? I really liked Megatron's, Skywarp's, Thundercracker's, and Breakaway's voice acting. Starscream was also really good. You ever hear his G1 voice? Nails on a chalkboard.
Vicalliose wrote:the shotguns are underpowered
No they aren't. The EMP shotgun and Scattergun are both more than capable of taking down anything that moves, as long as you use them right. I've slaughtered many an opponent by getting up close and personal with the EMP shotgun. (Which is how you're supposed to use a shotgun)
Vicalliose wrote:a lack of support for melee combat
Define lack of support. Do you mean it's bull that it only takes two or three melee attacks to kill anyone? Because I agree with that.
Vicalliose wrote:Jazz is voiced by a generic
This is actually a misunderstanding. Everyone in multiplayer has generic voices, because they're supposed to be generic characters. You can hear their real voices in Escalation mode.
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 3rd, 2010 @ 3:35pm CDT
Shadowman wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:second there may be data for ds and wii but this post didn't put that in its first posting
to make us think at first that is all there is
And that's Microsoft and Sony's fault how? Blurzz made the post, not Bill Gates.Ultra Markus wrote:third show me were i said anything bad about the wii
You didn't. I never said you did. You said you wanted to know more about Cybertron Adventures, (The Wii version of WfC) and I told you what I had heard from other sour
then why did you the wii was bad? its the same game
forget Sony there not as bad
think about it how many times has microsoft been in court for the whole anitrust lawsuite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft
they want to monopolize the gaming market
Posted by Shadowman on July 3rd, 2010 @ 4:00pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:then why did you the wii was bad? its the same game
No, it isn't. It doesn't even have the same title. It's a rail shooter, you don't even have full control of your character. You shoot up a bunch of enemies, the game then moves you to the next area where you do another shooting gallery. It's the same game like Duck Hunt is the same game as Unreal Tournament.
Ultra Markus wrote:they want to monopolize the gaming market
Yes, that's why they're putting radios in our teeth and fluoride in our water.
Posted by Vicalliose on July 3rd, 2010 @ 5:33pm CDT
Shadowman wrote:I just explained that it's not selling well. 100,000 is a very low number in video games sales, Daikatana, one of the worst games ever, sold twice as much as WfC has so far.
Check the link, read the comments. It's doing just fine for it's first week.
Shadowman wrote:Vicalliose wrote:It has a non-existent plot
No it doesn't. I mean, it does if you skip all of the cutscenes. It actually does have a plot,
That was a figure of speech. Allow me to rephrase myself. *ahem* It lacks plot.
No character development, period.
Shadowman wrote:Really? I really liked Megatron's, Skywarp's, Thundercracker's, and Breakaway's voice acting. Starscream was also really good. You ever hear his G1 voice? Nails on a chalkboard.
Perhaps if you watch more television than I do then you can learn to tolerate it.
But Starscream's voice sounded good to you?
I liked his voice from Armada better than this, even the stupid voice in the Armada game.
This guy sounds like he was pulled right off of 4kids' Pokemon.
Oh and I did hear Starscream's voice from G1. In fact it seems that you were making the assumption that I hadn't seen G1. Sorry to surprise you, but despite my age, I grew up with it.
Shadowman wrote:Vicalliose wrote:the shotguns are underpowered
No they aren't. The EMP shotgun and Scattergun are both more than capable of taking down anything that moves, as long as you use them right. I've slaughtered many an opponent by getting up close and personal with the EMP shotgun. (Which is how you're supposed to use a shotgun)
Are you talking about Escalation or Deathmatch?
Well either way, I don't think I've ever seen a player who actually wanted to use the shotgun.
As for my own experience with it, well I hit a guy in the back with a cloaked melee attack and then shot him three or four times with the shotgun without killing him so... I don't intend to use it again.
And no he didn't have a shield on. Say that I just suck all you want (I'm more of a casual player, so yeah I do). I'm fine with the Null Ray.
Shadowman wrote:Vicalliose wrote:a lack of support for melee combat
Define lack of support. Do you mean it's bull that it only takes two or three melee attacks to kill anyone? Because I agree with that.
Only two or thr-!? How many shooters have you played? Usually it's "one and done"!
N-not the point. What I meant is that it's very restrictive. As in, it's only used for a lame quick swing, rather than actual useful combat.
Shadowman wrote:Vicalliose wrote:Jazz is voiced by a generic
This is actually a misunderstanding. Everyone in multiplayer has generic voices, because they're supposed to be generic characters. You can hear their real voices in Escalation mode.
And? I was talking about Escalation. So unless all he does is mutter all the time, I haven't heard him.
Bottom line, he does not sound like Jazz.
Shadowman wrote:It actually does have a plot, one that happens to be significantly better than 99% of G1, actually.
Oh yeah, good work kicking an animal while it's down, one that has been down for years.
Please. Stop using a show that was made in the eighties, strictly to sell toys, as a defense for the plot of anything released within this millennium. I'm sick of it.
Why can't you people try something like Beast Wars or the comics?
Oh wait you can't, because nothing has ever had a weak enough plot for you to make a good enough case.
Transformers is not the utter trash people seem to think it is. It's been done better.
Posted by Shadowblade_DW on July 3rd, 2010 @ 7:51pm CDT
Posted by RogueDeathangel on July 4th, 2010 @ 12:48pm CDT
Of the 7 dedicated Game/Gamestation stores in the city centre NONE of them had copies on the day after release.
This wasn't due to high sales, but rather it was because each store only got between 5 and 10 copies of the game, which for some of them didn't even cover their pre-orders.
HMV had a lot in stock, but everywhere else was a nightmare.
Posted by HAWK727 on July 17th, 2010 @ 9:38am CDT
I would love to see this game go to 1m units sold at least.
I am working on putting a tournament together at all the West Coast Art Institute locations where you can win tickets to Blizzcon.
Posted by RCannon on July 17th, 2010 @ 2:13pm CDT
But pasadena is like 20 mins away and its rush hour and my car hasn't had its AC recharged since it went out last summers end... So I opt to go to Gamestop which is down the street... Nope-- they never even got a copy shipped to their store. I see Walmart accross the street. (I've never actually shopped in a walmart but my sister who lived in GA growing up always talked about walmart like it was the worlds biggest Mall) They must have it a little voice in my mind screams out. So i walk on over there... Nope.. 0 copies... No SKU for it in their system means they dont even plan to start ordering even upon request.
So i go to Pasadena... 35 minutes later of rush hour and swamp ass(it was 97 outside that day)... What do i see? 9 copies for sale... (its week 3, thursday:since release...) 6 initially shipped and 2 per week = 10 copies max can be on the shelf. I bought the second copy. Second copy sold, from what i could tell was a 20 miles radius of stores saying "go to best buy pasadena"
Posted by RogueDeathangel on July 17th, 2010 @ 8:06pm CDT
RCannon wrote: So i go to Pasadena... 35 minutes later of rush hour and swamp ass(it was 97 outside that day)... What do i see? 9 copies for sale... (its week 3, thursday:since release...) 6 initially shipped and 2 per week = 10 copies max can be on the shelf. I bought the second copy. Second copy sold, from what i could tell was a 20 miles radius of stores saying "go to best buy pasadena"
Distribution seems to have been a REAL problem with this game.
As you cans see from my previous post some shops in my area didn't get enough to fulfil their pre-orders.