First Teaser Look at Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee

1 kidney for sale. good condition.

After getting mp smokescreen, i'm looking forward to wheeljack and bumblebee.. damn you takara to hell.

So who can work some magic on this picture to bring out some of the hidden details?

Something like that… i can not do more:(

with the picture is better

A show-accurate G1 Bumblebee? Nice.

Would it be sacrilegious of me to say I've always hated Bumblebee? Dunno why, he's just always seemed like a boring wimp. That being said, I'd still have to own this when it becomes available. The Masterpiece line has become the Gold Standard in Transformers. I wonder how tall he will be? Will he be in line withe MP's of Prowl, Sideswipe and Smokescreen?

MegaDump wrote:Would it be sacrilegious of me to say I've always hated Bumblebee?

nah, he was a bit annoying in G1, and having him shoved in our faces in the last seven years hasn't done him any favours.

But love him or hate him, he's a necessity in the MP line.

This guy is worse than 3rd parties with his tweets. Next it will be a silhouette from the back or a different angle.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:This guy is worse than 3rd parties with his tweets. Next it will be a silhouette from the back or a different angle.

Or a fully revealed shot of the ... back bumper bar.

I said it about Prowl, but it's even more true in this case:

Dude, his feet are huge!


I mean, look at 'em, they're the same size as his entire torso!

I did a quick photoshop job on it

Unless this mold is decked out to the nines and has the most detailed bug interior in the history of Volkswagen Bug toys then I say no way am I forking out $75.00+ for an MP Bee with Clown Feet and that is probably half the size of the other MP cars for aesthetic reasons. . I saw the silhouette and all I could think of is those stupid Takara Disney Transformers...Slap a Mickey or Donald head on this lame duck and let's move on to bigger and better things.

~reluctantyouth~

Reluctantyouth is obviously not a GeeWunner...

The fact that it's a Volkswagon Beetle, alone, has most of us over 38 years old or so just about going happynuts in our seats.

superbat wrote:with the picture is better

bumblebee_test.jpg

Look better before looks like official I gear version of bumblebee master piece version wheels stick out more slightly more inside of his feet on takar version igear wheel of his feet are revesed fold down stick out from out side simaler differnces , same look

Looks great to me including the feet. I am not sure what people are expecting the feet to look like for a VW Beetle. His feet are even toon accurate.

Henry921 wrote:I said it about Prowl, but it's even more true in this case:

Dude, his feet are huge!


I mean, look at 'em, they're the same size as his entire torso!

if you can honestly do better have at it. till then don't complain, and have you look at prowls feet in the show?

I guess it's official now. I've updated the title of this topic to the official discussion for this figure. Let's try to keep all future teasers, images, info regarding him to this topic.

LOL, not really much of a surprise! Looks exactly like it should!

You think this is one that Hasbro might get for the U.S. (TRU) market, since Hasbro loves Bumblebee so much?

I just hope it can beat the 3rd party competitors.

Crystiallic wrote:I just hope it can beat the 3rd party competitors.

I think if it scales correctly with the other MP figures, and the head is spot on accurate I don't think Takara will have any problem selling him (even if folks have already bought the 3P versions).

I hope they don't use this mold for Cliffjumper. It would be nice to see Cliff as a proper Porsche 924 for the first time since 1984. That being said I think this is going to be the best Bumblebee ever!

Would have been interested if it were based on the IDW Infilitration character model, but G1 accuracy wasn't really something to aspire to here...

Caelus wrote:Would have been interested if it were based on the IDW Infilitration character model, but G1 accuracy wasn't really something to aspire to here...

G1 accuracy is pretty much the whole point of the Masterpiece line. They're "masterpiece" versions of the G1 toys. It's pretty much the defining characteristic of the entire line. If this figure doesn't "aspire to G1 accuracy", then there's no point in making it.

The ban on information will soon be lifted....really ? Companies in this hobby have a dumb way of marketing their product. You dont see car companies posting Silloettes on websites and hiding crap for months.

ailhouette looks nice

Is this an accurate VW Beetle or the deformed car as per the G1 Minibot?

Valandar wrote:Reluctantyouth is obviously not a GeeWunner...

The fact that it's a Volkswagon Beetle, alone, has most of us over 38 years old or so just about going happynuts in our seats.

I'm a G1 guy...might have only been 3 in 1984 but I knew who Optimus Prime was and had many toys in my younger years. It was great to hear a G1 accurate Bee was coming...this just looks like it will miss the mark.

This figure has been a long time coming. I can tell it's gonna be the best 'Bee toy. The head looks spot on, and I can't wait to see the face and everything else!

Seems like it might be a realistic WV Beetle, or maybe something in between, kind of like Goldbug's alt-mode?

Valandar wrote:Reluctantyouth is obviously not a GeeWunner...

The fact that it's a Volkswagon Beetle, alone, has most of us over 38 years old or so just about going happynuts in our seats.

The fact that since they finally got a VW licence, I wish TakaraTomy would just revisit their BT/ALT line just this once

Cyberpath wrote:This figure has been a long time coming. I can tell it's gonna be the best 'Bee toy. The head looks spot on, and I can't wait to see the face and everything else!

Seems like it might be a realistic WV Beetle, or maybe something in between, kind of like Goldbug's alt-mode?

Judging from the size of the wheel covers, they're going for realism here. Pretty bold, given that Volkswagen has thrown a wrench into Binaltech Bumble and Cliff before.

Rated X wrote:The ban on information will soon be lifted....really ? Companies in this hobby have a dumb way of marketing their product. You dont see car companies posting Silloettes on websites and hiding crap for months.

Car makers go to great lengths to hide their cars before they're ready to reveal them to the public. During testing on outdoor tracks, they'll cover the car with random patches of fabric and fake bulges to hide the car's actual lines. They do that because the car magazines and website send photographers to hide in the bushes and try to take photos of them. It's not that different. They like to tease the new product and only reveal it when they want.

Rated X wrote:The ban on information will soon be lifted....really ?

You should never take a Google Translation at face value.

That's Bee alright. At this point I kind of consider G1 and Bayverse Bees as completely different entities. IDW is his G1 self and TFP is more like Bayverse. Which is to say, I have no problem picking him up. And the essential fact that he's basically going to be a VW Bug like he should be makes this likely the best Bumblebee yet. Bring on the preorders!

judging by the lighted photo... the head is turned backwards so you can't see the sculpt....

Big feet make sense for g1 screen and toy accuracy...

Looks like he will have some back kibble that is not reminiscent of toy or screen, so that is a little unfortunate.

If he comes with a gun, doesn't that seem contrary to the wishes of Volkswagon to not be involved with licensing their vehicles out to companies that would use them for their "War Machine" toys?

thedistinctroom wrote:If he comes with a gun, doesn't that seem contrary to the wishes of Volkswagon to not be involved with licensing their vehicles out to companies that would use them for their "War Machine" toys?

There are a few different possibilities -

1) Volkswagen changed their minds. After all, other cars they own (Audi/Lamborghini) have been featured heavily in TF fiction lately, and while the toys so far were not officially licensed (until MP Lambor and co.), upcoming ones might be. They like money as much as HasTak, I'm sure.

2) TakaraTomy's existing licenses they have for the Tomica line of diecast cars may be good enough in Japan. This doesn't mean Hasbro will have the same luxury, however.

3) The sculpt may be just different enough from the real-world car that they can get away with it. See very many recent TF figures based mostly on real cars but are different enough to not need licensing.

warzon3 wrote:Big feet make sense for g1 screen and toy accuracy...

i think you need to go back and watch the cartoon again.

GuyIncognito wrote:

Caelus wrote:Would have been interested if it were based on the IDW Infilitration character model, but G1 accuracy wasn't really something to aspire to here...

G1 accuracy is pretty much the whole point of the Masterpiece line. They're "masterpiece" versions of the G1 toys. It's pretty much the defining characteristic of the entire line. If this figure doesn't "aspire to G1 accuracy", then there's no
point in making it.

yeah.. i'm not sure why this is so difficult for people to get their heads around.

so VW decided to give takara the licence to use the ugly car mode bee had in G1?

funny, since they stated they didn,t want their cars associated with warring robots in the first movie... I guess when they saw the numbers, they had a ''sudden'' change of heart...

anyway I wont get this. if they keep the scale accurate, he'll cost as much as the other masterpeices, but will be smaller... hope they will throw in some accessories to compensate...

Deathscythetransform wrote:so VW decided to give takara the licence to use the ugly car mode bee had in G1?

funny, since they stated they didn,t want their cars associated with warring robots in the first movie... I guess when they saw the numbers, they had a ''sudden'' change of heart...

It wasn't first movie that the "no war machines" claim originated from. It was back in 2003, with the Binaltech/Alternators line.

I trust TT would deliver a great design. I just hope they counter this onslaught of autobot cars with maybe something like half a dozed green decepticon construction vehicles.

wewyllenium wrote:I trust TT would deliver a great design. I just hope they counter this onslaught of autobot cars with maybe something like half a dozed green decepticon construction vehicles.

They wanna get the 1984 cast done first and foremost. Aside from a new Megatron and MP-11 mold versions of Thundercracker and Skywarp by Takara, they've already finished all the 1984 Decepticons.

what about shockwave and reflector both were in the pilot epeisode of more than meets the eye.....?

manofsteel2397 wrote:what about shockwave and reflector both were in the pilot epeisode of more than meets the eye.....?

Shockwave was a 1985 toy, and Reflector was in 1986 as a mail-away (though, Japan got it as a regular release in 1985).

i thought they were going with the cartoon line?

manofsteel2397 wrote:i thought they were going with the cartoon line?

Cartoon designs, yes, but the original toyline is what dictated all of G1 in the first place.

Sabrblade wrote:

manofsteel2397 wrote:i thought they were going with the cartoon line?

Cartoon designs, yes, but the original toyline is what dictated all of G1 in the first place.

Splitting hairs, dude. Shockwave was a huge part of Season 1 and Reflector was aboard the Nemesis making them as '84 as you can get. They go by characters on in the cartoon as Grimlock's reissue proves. Shockwave won't happen because it's not theirs to make but nothing's stopping a toon accurate Reflector. Devastator might be too much to ask for though.

Henry921 wrote:I said it about Prowl, but it's even more true in this case:

Dude, his feet are huge!

Ain't ya ever wondered why he's such a hit with the ladies? ;D

For my money I love it!

Gotta agree, that for us old G1 dogs this is spot on, classic VW bug!

True that in the G1 animation they'd be smaller in bot form, but that was just size morphing. They had to be this big to make a proper front end.

I love it!!

zodconvoy wrote:Splitting hairs, dude. Shockwave was a huge part of Season 1 and Reflector was aboard the Nemesis making them as '84 as you can get. They go by characters on in the cartoon as Grimlock's reissue proves. Shockwave won't happen because it's not theirs to make but nothing's stopping a toon accurate Reflector. Devastator might be too much to ask for though.

Why is Shockwave not theirs to make? I'm aware of the Fan's toys Shockwave, but why would that affect Takara's ability to make one themselves? Maybe I'm missing something? Obviously that will cut into DEMAND for an official Shockwavw, but wouldn't make it prohibitive for Takara. For my money, I love the official MP's myself. As for gestalts...that may be a later endeavor...we can hope anyway! Would love to see a Takara Devastator, though the most recent unlicensed version looks amazing!!

DinobotSix wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:Splitting hairs, dude. Shockwave was a huge part of Season 1 and Reflector was aboard the Nemesis making them as '84 as you can get. They go by characters on in the cartoon as Grimlock's reissue proves. Shockwave won't happen because it's not theirs to make but nothing's stopping a toon accurate Reflector. Devastator might be too much to ask for though.

Why is Shockwave not theirs to make? I'm aware of the Fan's toys Shockwave, but why would that affect Takara's ability to make one themselves? Maybe I'm missing something? Obviously that will cut into DEMAND for an official Shockwavw, but wouldn't make it prohibitive for Takara. For my money, I love the official MP's myself. As for gestalts...that may be a later endeavor...we can hope anyway! Would love to see a Takara Devastator, though the most recent unlicensed version looks amazing!!

yeah.. you're WAY off.. no one is talking about 3rd party companies here.. what he's referring to is the original toy.. the original G1 shockwave wasn't designed by takara.

DinobotSix wrote:

Henry921 wrote:I said it about Prowl, but it's even more true in this case:

Dude, his feet are huge!

GuyIncognito wrote:

Rated X wrote:The ban on information will soon be lifted....really ? Companies in this hobby have a dumb way of marketing their product. You dont see car companies posting Silloettes on websites and hiding crap for months.

Car makers go to great lengths to hide their cars before they're ready to reveal them to the public. During testing on outdoor tracks, they'll cover the car with random patches of fabric and fake bulges to hide the car's actual lines. They do that because the car magazines and website send photographers to hide in the bushes and try to take photos of them. It's not that different. They like to tease the new product and only reveal it when they want.

i don't see how that is similar at all.. this is an official image released by takara.. this isn't someone taking a blurry picture in a factory.. takara has complete control over this situation.

they're not trying to hide anything like car companies do.. they're trying to create excitement.

Ain't ya ever wondered why he's such a hit with the ladies? ;D

For my money I love it!

Gotta agree, that for us old G1 dogs this is spot on, classic VW bug!

True that in the G1 animation they'd be smaller in bot form, but that was just size morphing. They had to be this big to make a proper front end.

I love it!!

size morphing? .. hmm.. i'd lean more to the fact that bumblebee's vehicle proportions in the cartoon weren't similar to the proportions of the actual real world vehicle.. had hasbro used the specs of the vehicle from the show, i think it'd be a bit more accurate in robot mode.

i think the fact that a robot needs to fit in the vehicle also factors in to the wonky sizes.

overall.. this is definitely the weakest silhouette they've released thus far. i'm sure the fully revealed toy will be cool looking.. but it definitely doesn't look like it's going to be as accurate as sideswipe through wheeljack.