First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime

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Greetings Seibertronians! We have some possible exciting news for those curious to see the Conmander Class for Transformers War for Cybertron: Kingdom.

It should be pointed out that so far, there is nothing else to go on other then this picture and what information has been shared with leakers so far. The following picture it's self comes from twitter user, @hotconvoy, who doesn't offer a source for the picture.

As you can see, this is just the main body of Rodimus Prime, and though the picture isn't detailed, you can see some details on the legs that matches the style we've seen so far inn the WfC Trilogy. It's too early to say if be shares anything other then looks with the SS86 Voyager Class Hot Rod. We also see two accessories, a sword and a gun.

The picture also gives a Japanese ID number for him as KD-12 as well as a release date (in Japan), as August 2021, as well as his price in Yen. A date is also given of 10th of March, which, if this is to be believed, could be when we get our good and detailed look at the figure and everything he comes with.

Till we have a source for this, or get official confirmation, treat this as rumour.

If this is the real deal, what are your thoughts? Don't think this will be three in a row for Commander Class releases?

Give a shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

Credit(s): Hot Convoy on Twitter

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Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097016)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 3rd, 2021 @ 9:15am CST

Emerje wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I thought Drill Bit was considered the worst of the Basic figures?

I like Drill Bit. He's a bug with a drill face, what's not to like?

Emerje

His translucent plastic might make him a bit delicate nowadays.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097055)
Posted by Shiningstar7896 on March 3rd, 2021 @ 12:03pm CST

I was looking on TFW2005 and I found where the image comes from.

https://www.facebook.com/93297310009753 ... 262784359/

The image doesn't show the trailer.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097135)
Posted by DMSL on March 3rd, 2021 @ 6:30pm CST

This is like that G1 Prime Hasbro re-issued without the trailer...pointless.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097140)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on March 3rd, 2021 @ 7:00pm CST

Emerje wrote:
Zeedust wrote:Hopefully if it is the non-Transmetals, they'll give us a reissue of the basic Rattrap this time around; it'd scale better with the Kingdom stuff than the tiny core class version.

Personally I've never been a fan of the original Rattrap figure, I don't even own one because I didn't like it as a kid teen despite liking the character a lot. I've always felt it was the absolute worst of the Basic figures and a terrible rat likeness, especially that row of long fangs. Kingdom Rattrap isn't that much smaller than the original and has a far better looking rat mode and scales better with the smaller scale of Kingdom figures.

Rattraps.JPG

(From Deluxe Baldwin on YouTube)

Sure not going to try to change your opinion, but the size differences are so minor and the aesthetics are so different I don't think the original would look any better with Kingdom.

Emerje

What's the figure directly beside the Kingdom one? I think that's probably the best-looking Rattrap of the bunch.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097154)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 3rd, 2021 @ 10:45pm CST

Pass! Should've been a number of other TF characters that deserve actual Commander class treatment.

I'll only grab this if shows up on sale or one clearance somewhere.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097164)
Posted by Emerje on March 4th, 2021 @ 2:17am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I thought Drill Bit was considered the worst of the Basic figures?

I like Drill Bit. He's a bug with a drill face, what's not to like?

Emerje
His translucent plastic might make him a bit delicate nowadays.

I actually just bought a used one off Transformerland.com last year and he seemed fine, better than the original Transmetals Rhinox I bought at the same time that definitely felt like he could break at any point in the transformation and will probably never see rhino mode again.

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:What's the figure directly beside the Kingdom one? I think that's probably the best-looking Rattrap of the bunch.

Third party, quick search and I guess it has the generic name of "Mice Warriors" with an "s". Apparently he's more egg than mouse having no molded fur textures on his body.

Emerje

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097301)
Posted by Zeedust on March 5th, 2021 @ 3:17pm CST

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And I thought Transmetal Rattrap being used for BW 10th instead of the original Basic was nothing more than logistics, really. Putting a Basic figure in a line set as "Deluxe only", yeah no.

Yeah, that was my assumption as well.

They pulled the original Terrorsaur mold out of mothballs for use in AoE, so we know at least one of the first-wave basic-class BW molds was available for use in a 2014 toyline. The BW 10th anniversary toyline was 2006. I'm skeptical about the idea that Rattrap's mold was unusable by then when Terrosaur's, which got reused far more, was still good 8 years later.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097311)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2021 @ 5:02pm CST

Zeedust wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And I thought Transmetal Rattrap being used for BW 10th instead of the original Basic was nothing more than logistics, really. Putting a Basic figure in a line set as "Deluxe only", yeah no.

Yeah, that was my assumption as well.

They pulled the original Terrorsaur mold out of mothballs for use in AoE, so we know at least one of the first-wave basic-class BW molds was available for use in a 2014 toyline. The BW 10th anniversary toyline was 2006. I'm skeptical about the idea that Rattrap's mold was unusable by then when Terrosaur's, which got reused far more, was still good 8 years later.

Yeah, the Terrorsaur mold showing up in AOE came as a shock to everyone, as it too was believed to have been lost like the Rattrap, Insecticon, and Armordillo molds.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097476)
Posted by Dead Metal on March 8th, 2021 @ 6:31am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Zeedust wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And I thought Transmetal Rattrap being used for BW 10th instead of the original Basic was nothing more than logistics, really. Putting a Basic figure in a line set as "Deluxe only", yeah no.

Yeah, that was my assumption as well.

They pulled the original Terrorsaur mold out of mothballs for use in AoE, so we know at least one of the first-wave basic-class BW molds was available for use in a 2014 toyline. The BW 10th anniversary toyline was 2006. I'm skeptical about the idea that Rattrap's mold was unusable by then when Terrosaur's, which got reused far more, was still good 8 years later.
Yeah, the Terrorsaur mold showing up in AOE came as a shock to everyone, as it too was believed to have been lost like the Rattrap, Insecticon, and Armordillo molds.

Wait, what? I just had to check this and wow. That has got to be the most random redeco ever. A 20 year old mold used as something in a main toyline...

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097480)
Posted by william-james88 on March 8th, 2021 @ 8:44am CST

Dead Metal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Zeedust wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And I thought Transmetal Rattrap being used for BW 10th instead of the original Basic was nothing more than logistics, really. Putting a Basic figure in a line set as "Deluxe only", yeah no.

Yeah, that was my assumption as well.

They pulled the original Terrorsaur mold out of mothballs for use in AoE, so we know at least one of the first-wave basic-class BW molds was available for use in a 2014 toyline. The BW 10th anniversary toyline was 2006. I'm skeptical about the idea that Rattrap's mold was unusable by then when Terrosaur's, which got reused far more, was still good 8 years later.
Yeah, the Terrorsaur mold showing up in AOE came as a shock to everyone, as it too was believed to have been lost like the Rattrap, Insecticon, and Armordillo molds.

Wait, what? I just had to check this and wow. That has got to be the most random redeco ever. A 20 year old mold used as something in a main toyline...

It wasn't a main toyline.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097492)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 8th, 2021 @ 2:04pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Zeedust wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And I thought Transmetal Rattrap being used for BW 10th instead of the original Basic was nothing more than logistics, really. Putting a Basic figure in a line set as "Deluxe only", yeah no.

Yeah, that was my assumption as well.

They pulled the original Terrorsaur mold out of mothballs for use in AoE, so we know at least one of the first-wave basic-class BW molds was available for use in a 2014 toyline. The BW 10th anniversary toyline was 2006. I'm skeptical about the idea that Rattrap's mold was unusable by then when Terrosaur's, which got reused far more, was still good 8 years later.
Yeah, the Terrorsaur mold showing up in AOE came as a shock to everyone, as it too was believed to have been lost like the Rattrap, Insecticon, and Armordillo molds.

Wait, what? I just had to check this and wow. That has got to be the most random redeco ever. A 20 year old mold used as something in a main toyline...

It wasn't a main toyline.

It was a Walmart exclusive to be exact, packaged with a RotF Legion Bumblebee. And well, dinos sell, so any available was used. Look at Grimlock, he got Prime Legion Rippersnapper (multiple times!), FoC Grimlock and Energon Cruellock(!) used.

Actually, the BW springloaded Basics may not be lost, but undesireable to be used due some of the mechanisms, the (supposed) force necessary to trigger them and how little fingers can get stuck inside them. I have Iguanus, Armordillo and BW Neo Hydra within reach and I can see kids getting their fingers hurt. Compare them to the current One-Step Changers, you'll see what I mean :-?

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097531)
Posted by Zeedust on March 8th, 2021 @ 7:51pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:]Yeah, the Terrorsaur mold showing up in AOE came as a shock to everyone, as it too was believed to have been lost like the Rattrap, Insecticon, and Armordillo molds.

Okay, I'm just gonna come out and say it. Did someone on the inside actually say those molds were lost?

Also, I still think reissues of Inferno and Tarantulas might be a good idea since they don't have toys in Kingdom.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097538)
Posted by william-james88 on March 8th, 2021 @ 10:56pm CST

Zeedust wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:]Yeah, the Terrorsaur mold showing up in AOE came as a shock to everyone, as it too was believed to have been lost like the Rattrap, Insecticon, and Armordillo molds.

Okay, I'm just gonna come out and say it. Did someone on the inside actually say those molds were lost?

I asked the site owner who has spoken to the different Hasbro teams over the years and as far as he knows those initial beast wars molds were never confirmed to be lost.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097817)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on March 11th, 2021 @ 11:32am CST

IGN confirms Walmart reissues. Originals, not Transmetals. H/t user TOO MUCH ENERGON! in the Netflix thread.

https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transf ... lease-date

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097819)
Posted by william-james88 on March 11th, 2021 @ 12:19pm CST

Well it looks like some rumours were wrong. We are getting reissues from the Beast Wars era but they are not transmetals, they are the original toys from 1996. And they seem to be original through and through with the original headsculpts and original packaging too, which will be amazing to see in stores. My fondest toysrus memory is seeing all these beast wars toys on pegs covering an end display and this definitely brings me back. With these being reissues and part of Walmart's collector con on 3/15, it's a smart bet that these are Walmart exclusives. The colours are slightly different than the original releases though. The deluxes will be $19.99 and the Leaders will be $39.99, no word yet on Rattrap. Check out Rattap, Cheetor, Optimus Primal and Megatron below! Here is where this story was first posted: https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transf ... lease-date

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097820)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on March 11th, 2021 @ 12:25pm CST

I pretty much got all of my Beast Wars toys back in the 90's at a Walmart (which no longer exists) anyway, so double-nostalgia! :lol:

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097821)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2021 @ 12:30pm CST

Hard pass. I still have all my original BW toys, as well as several of the show-accurate Telemocha Series redecos, and the 10th Anniversary retools of Primal and Megatron, and even the 1997 show-accurate Takara redecos of Rattrap and Terrorsaur.

I would have been all over reissues of the Transmetals if it gave us a GPS-free version of Megatron. Or even reissues of these molds in their Telemocha Series decos (as there are still a few I'm missing). But I don't need show-inaccurate versions of the Season 1 figures.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097823)
Posted by Dead Metal on March 11th, 2021 @ 12:31pm CST

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Zeedust wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And I thought Transmetal Rattrap being used for BW 10th instead of the original Basic was nothing more than logistics, really. Putting a Basic figure in a line set as "Deluxe only", yeah no.

Yeah, that was my assumption as well.

They pulled the original Terrorsaur mold out of mothballs for use in AoE, so we know at least one of the first-wave basic-class BW molds was available for use in a 2014 toyline. The BW 10th anniversary toyline was 2006. I'm skeptical about the idea that Rattrap's mold was unusable by then when Terrosaur's, which got reused far more, was still good 8 years later.
Yeah, the Terrorsaur mold showing up in AOE came as a shock to everyone, as it too was believed to have been lost like the Rattrap, Insecticon, and Armordillo molds.

Wait, what? I just had to check this and wow. That has got to be the most random redeco ever. A 20 year old mold used as something in a main toyline...

It wasn't a main toyline.

It was a Walmart exclusive to be exact, packaged with a RotF Legion Bumblebee. And well, dinos sell, so any available was used. Look at Grimlock, he got Prime Legion Rippersnapper (multiple times!), FoC Grimlock and Energon Cruellock(!) used.

Actually, the BW springloaded Basics may not be lost, but undesireable to be used due some of the mechanisms, the (supposed) force necessary to trigger them and how little fingers can get stuck inside them. I have Iguanus, Armordillo and BW Neo Hydra within reach and I can see kids getting their fingers hurt. Compare them to the current One-Step Changers, you'll see what I mean

So the wiki got it wrong when it states that it's an AOE release? Ok.

As for the reissues at hand, kinda tempted for the packaging, BW had my favourite packaging design. And gotta love mistransforming in advertising photos to make toys look more articulated XD

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097824)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2021 @ 12:34pm CST

Dead Metal wrote:So the wiki got it wrong when it states that it's an AOE release? Ok.

What are you talking about? It was released in AOE. Just not in the main toyline, but in a Walmart-exclusive AOE subline. That's what Will and JelZe meant.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097825)
Posted by sol magnus on March 11th, 2021 @ 12:40pm CST

Ahh, memories. I might get an Optimus Primal so I can use his mace for the Kingdom version. Those guys had 5mm pegs.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097827)
Posted by TulioDude on March 11th, 2021 @ 12:47pm CST

They all look neat! ;)^

specially knowing that I can find an original Megatron at a much lower price than the used market.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097828)
Posted by Dead Metal on March 11th, 2021 @ 12:48pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:So the wiki got it wrong when it states that it's an AOE release? Ok.
What are you talking about? It was released in AOE. Just not in the main toyline, but in a Walmart-exclusive AOE subline. That's what Will and JelZe meant.

Ok, a subline. How was I supposed to know? Wiki said AOE, which I remember as a main line, and then I get corrected with "not a main line".
There's no need to get angry about a reissue from 6 (?) years ago.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097829)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 11th, 2021 @ 12:55pm CST

I was hoping we might be getting Transmetal reissues, given the originals are amazing toys (mostly) and that they'd be sufficiently different from the Kingdom stuff for people to justify buying both. As it stands, this seems...poorly thought out, given that there are now better figures of the same designs available (particularly egregious with Rattrap, whose Core is much cheaper than this reissue).

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097830)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on March 11th, 2021 @ 1:03pm CST

Evil Eye wrote:I was hoping we might be getting Transmetal reissues, given the originals are amazing toys (mostly) and that they'd be sufficiently different from the Kingdom stuff for people to justify buying both. As it stands, this seems...poorly thought out, given that there are now better figures of the same designs available (particularly egregious with Rattrap, whose Core is much cheaper than this reissue).

Nostalgia is a powerful thing. I already have all the Kingdom toys available (sans Megatron because my retailer keeps delaying his release), and I'll still be buying these simply for the sake of my inner 11 year old, lol.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097831)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2021 @ 1:13pm CST

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:
Evil Eye wrote:I was hoping we might be getting Transmetal reissues, given the originals are amazing toys (mostly) and that they'd be sufficiently different from the Kingdom stuff for people to justify buying both. As it stands, this seems...poorly thought out, given that there are now better figures of the same designs available (particularly egregious with Rattrap, whose Core is much cheaper than this reissue).

Nostalgia is a powerful thing. I already have all the Kingdom toys available (sans Megatron because my retailer keeps delaying his release), and I'll still be buying these simply for the sake of my inner 11 year old, lol.

The thing is, this is Hasbro competing with itself since every one of these reissues so far completely overlap with the Kingdom offerings 100%.

By contrast, the Transmetals would have offered something ufficiently different, giving people good reason to buy from both lines, while also still capitalizing on people's nostalgia. As is, these are just more expensive alternatives to the Kingdom figures.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097832)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on March 11th, 2021 @ 1:20pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:
Evil Eye wrote:I was hoping we might be getting Transmetal reissues, given the originals are amazing toys (mostly) and that they'd be sufficiently different from the Kingdom stuff for people to justify buying both. As it stands, this seems...poorly thought out, given that there are now better figures of the same designs available (particularly egregious with Rattrap, whose Core is much cheaper than this reissue).

Nostalgia is a powerful thing. I already have all the Kingdom toys available (sans Megatron because my retailer keeps delaying his release), and I'll still be buying these simply for the sake of my inner 11 year old, lol.
The thing is, this is Hasbro competing with itself since every one of these reissues so far completely overlap with the Kingdom offerings 100%.

By contrast, the Transmetals would have offered something ufficiently different, giving people good reason to buy from both lines, while also still capitalizing on people's nostalgia. As is, these are just more expensive alternatives to the Kingdom figures.

I get what you're saying, and I do agree with you to an extent. I'm just saying that the nostalgia of these being the exact figures I had in my hands as an 11 year old kid will drive me to buy them in addition to having already purchased the admittedly superior Kingdom toys. And I'm not even a hardcore collector or anything.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097833)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2021 @ 1:22pm CST

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:these being the exact figures I had in my hands as an 11 year old kid

With different or less paint, though.

Primal's missing all the red on his chestplate, for instance.

Same with all the silver missing from Megatron's helmet.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097834)
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 11th, 2021 @ 1:26pm CST

The article makes it read like it is Cheetor AND Rattrap for $20 where as Meagatron and Primal are $40 each. Pretty good price for the duo considering what the Kingdom Cheetor looks like.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097835)
Posted by Mindmaster on March 11th, 2021 @ 1:27pm CST

They’re nice, but I already have a Primal and Megatron and I prefer the Kingdom boys. Yes, heretical, I know.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097836)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on March 11th, 2021 @ 1:36pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:these being the exact figures I had in my hands as an 11 year old kid
With different or less paint, though.

Primal's missing all the red on his chestplate, for instance.

Same with all the silver missing from Megatron's helmet.

cheetor's blue looks a bit darker then I remember (I sold all my old bw figs years ago when times were tough, so I don't have them to compare, will check the gallery here later)

megatron though..

the real question isn't megatron's missing paint, which is kinda not cool imho, it's whether or not they put back in his ratchets. the 10th anniversary version removed his ratchet components giving him loose waists and hips. on the plus side, minor differences to help tell the difference between these and the original is good for re-sellers I suppose

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097837)
Posted by william-james88 on March 11th, 2021 @ 1:48pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:The thing is, this is Hasbro competing with itself since every one of these reissues so far completely overlap with the Kingdom offerings 100%.

The Soundwave reissue overlapped, as did Starscream and Optimus Prime. It's the same thing here. People are rediscovering the characters with the new toys and can also either experience the original toys for the first time to see how far things have gone or to reown them.

They are basically turning Walmart shelves into the Chronicle series (pics below) where you can buy whatever you want individually.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097839)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on March 11th, 2021 @ 2:06pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:these being the exact figures I had in my hands as an 11 year old kid
With different or less paint, though.

Primal's missing all the red on his chestplate, for instance.

Same with all the silver missing from Megatron's helmet.

Those are minor details for a casual collector such as myself. Not to disparage anyone for caring about such things, though.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097841)
Posted by o.supreme on March 11th, 2021 @ 2:16pm CST

Well there we go. I KNEW these wouldn't be the Transmetals, not for the prices initially stated (and they are even less expensive than originally shown). That's not to say if these are successful they wont try to bring out the Transmetals sometime down the road, but at least we can put all the initial rumors to rest.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097844)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2021 @ 2:29pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The thing is, this is Hasbro competing with itself since every one of these reissues so far completely overlap with the Kingdom offerings 100%.

The Soundwave reissue overlapped, as did Starscream and Optimus Prime.

Not when they all had sufficiently different altmode designs and engineering from the contemporary Siege toys.

Plus, let's not kid ourselves, here. The G1 toys are worlds more different from the Generations toys of today compared to the original Beast Wars molds that have much of the same quality and spirit as today's Generations toys.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097846)
Posted by Overcracker on March 11th, 2021 @ 2:42pm CST

william-james88 wrote:Well it looks like some rumours were wrong. We are getting reissues from the Beast Wars era but they are not transmetals, they are the original toys from 1996. And they seem to be original through and through with the original headsculpts and original packaging too, which will be amazing to see in stores. My fondest toysrus memory is seeing all these beast wars toys on pegs covering an end display and this definitely brings me back. With these being reissues and part of Walmart's collector con on 3/15, it's a smart bet that these are Walmart exclusives. The colours are slightly different than the original releases though. The deluxes will be $19.99 and the Leaders will be $39.99, no word yet on Rattrap. Check out Rattap, Cheetor, Optimus Primal and Megatron below! Here is where this story was first posted: https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transf ... lease-date

I'll pickup Megatron and Ratrap, if I see them. Never owned them, and would like a shot at them.

Prime and Cheetor I already have better versions of those molds.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097847)
Posted by Dead Metal on March 11th, 2021 @ 2:59pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The thing is, this is Hasbro competing with itself since every one of these reissues so far completely overlap with the Kingdom offerings 100%.

The Soundwave reissue overlapped, as did Starscream and Optimus Prime.
Not when they all had sufficiently different altmode designs and engineering from the contemporary Siege toys.

Plus, let's not kid ourselves, here. The G1 toys are worlds more different from the Generations toys of today compared to the original Beast Wars molds that have much of the same quality and spirit as today's Generations toys.

It doesn't really matter. Beast Wars is now 25 years old. Reissues were a no brainer. And as pointed out there are plenty of G1 reissues that get released alongside modern incarnations.
These appeal to people like me who grew up with Beast Wars.

The modernised ones grab your attention, and then the nostalgia attack of these will hit you in the face and pull you in.

I hope these will also get oldschool European packaging, gotta love yourself some Bio Combat.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097849)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 11th, 2021 @ 3:10pm CST

Well that's a shame. At least the Transmetals would have been something interesting to look at. :roll:

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097850)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2021 @ 3:16pm CST

Dead Metal wrote:It doesn't really matter. Beast Wars is now 25 years old. Reissues were a no brainer. And as pointed out there are plenty of G1 reissues that get released alongside modern incarnations.
These appeal to people like me who grew up with Beast Wars.

The modernised ones grab your attention, and then the nostalgia attack of these will hit you in the face and pull you in.

I hope these will also get oldschool European packaging, gotta love yourself some Bio Combat.

That is not what we were talking about. I've nothing against the idea of BW reissues. I'm a BW kid. Heck, look at my Maximal avatar and faction.

What we were discussing was the validity of whether or not the Transmetals would have been a better option for the BW reissues. I argue they would since they wouldn't have been as redundant as the Season 1 toys when compared to the offerings of the Kingdom line, and would have even finally given us a GPS-free Transmetal Megatron, something that people who were never able to get the 1999 GPS-free Takara version have been wanting for years.

Re: First Possible Look At Transformers Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (2097852)
Posted by Dead Metal on March 11th, 2021 @ 3:25pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:It doesn't really matter. Beast Wars is now 25 years old. Reissues were a no brainer. And as pointed out there are plenty of G1 reissues that get released alongside modern incarnations.
These appeal to people like me who grew up with Beast Wars.

The modernised ones grab your attention, and then the nostalgia attack of these will hit you in the face and pull you in.

I hope these will also get oldschool European packaging, gotta love yourself some Bio Combat.
That is not what we were talking about. I've nothing against the idea of BW reissues. I'm a BW kid. Heck, look at my Maximal avatar and faction.

What we were discussing was the validity of whether or not the Transmetals would have been a better option for the BW reissues. I argue they would since they wouldn't have been as redundant as the Season 1 toys when compared to the offerings of the Kingdom line, and would have even finally given us a GPS-free Transmetal Megatron, something that people who were never able to get the 1999 GPS-free Takara version have been wanting for years.

The TM would be nice, but to be honest, I don't think they will happen, this year at least.

It makes more sense like this. 25 anniversary of the original line, so we get updates and reissues.
It would have been stranger if they reissued the TMs instead of these.
And no they're not redundend, if anything it's awesome that Hasbro treats BW similar this time round as it does G1.
This year we can get a Classics Optimus Primal, a reisdyof the original and I believe the MP was also reissued.

Mever got an original Primal, so I'm stocked to get another chance.
I wouldn't say no to either TM, Fuzor or TM2.

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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 11th, 2021 @ 3:32pm CST

The chosen reissues are completely redundant. Megs and Cheetor couldn't be anymore inferior to the Kingdom ones. Meanwhile, although classic Gorilla Primal was one of the best of the original line. To have either the Kingdom one or the MP, you're frankly wasting your money on him.

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Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2021 @ 3:37pm CST

Dead Metal wrote:It makes more sense like this. 25 anniversary of the original line, so we get updates and reissues.

If only the same could have been said for the 20th anniversary. BW got nothing at all from Hasbro that year cuz Hasbro instead wanted to celebrate TFTM's 30th anniversary.

Dead Metal wrote:This year we can get a Classics Optimus Primal, a reisdyof the original and I believe the MP was also reissued.

Mever got an original Primal, so I'm stocked to get another chance.

To be fair, there was also the 2014 reissue Takara put out for their Legends line, which used the retooling of the Reborn/10th Anniversary version.

Transformers Legends Optimus Primal (Beast Convoy) Gallery

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Posted by Overcracker on March 11th, 2021 @ 3:48pm CST

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The chosen reissues are completely redundant. Megs and Cheetor couldn't be anymore inferior to the Kingdom ones. Meanwhile, although classic Gorilla Primal was one of the best of the original line. To have either the Kingdom one or the MP, you're frankly wasting your money on him.

I'll have to respectfully disagree.

Kingdom Cheetor is quite disappointment. The Original is still better in many ways.

Kingdom Megs is on his way, so can't yet comment on him.

The original Primal has a ton of features not present in the Kingdom version. Not saying the Kingdom version is bad, but the OG version still gives it a run for its money in features and accessories and sheer size.

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Posted by ScottyP on March 11th, 2021 @ 3:52pm CST

If they're going to cram five languages on the cards and boxes, then at least include the wacky translated character names too! RIP, Rattilus

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Posted by o.supreme on March 11th, 2021 @ 4:03pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, let's not kid ourselves, here. The G1 toys are worlds more different from the Generations toys of today compared to the original Beast Wars molds that have much of the same quality and spirit as today's Generations toys.

I'm not sure about that, but whatever degree of difference or similarity there is between the 1984 Optimus Prime, and 2020 ER Optimus Prime I'd say is more-or-less comparable to 1996 BW Megatron and 2021 Kingdom BW Megatron.

Initially I thought "there isn't much difference", but then I got told how much better quality the plastics were from the 90's. I'm not saying it's true or not, I'm just sayin whatever side of the argument I land on, I get told by someone I'm wrong. Can Both be wrong? Can two wrongs make a right 8-}

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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 11th, 2021 @ 4:03pm CST

Barney Megatron is a bad figure. Arguably the worst Predacon design of the original line. Mostly due to his gimmick and bizarre colour palette. The fact that the Kingdom one has two actual arms, makes him better by default.

The chosen '96 figures only really hold up with nostalgia goggles on. The ones from that initial line that still genuinely impress were unfortunately not show characters.

Just reusing the same Primal visual design they have been churning out again since PoTP, is both lazy and far too safe. Since they are already using the Season One designs again in Kingdom. There is nothing special about them to mark the anniversary by showing the same things. Two and a half decades removed.

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Whereas these guys getting reissues would be infinitely more appealing to the collectors they are trying to reach.

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Posted by sol magnus on March 11th, 2021 @ 4:09pm CST

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Whereas these guys getting reissues would be infinitely more appealing to the collectors they are trying to reach.

In YOUR opinion. As you've seen in this thread, there are people who are just fine with what's actually getting released, and not some Allnewsuperrobot approved line up.

It's just some reissues. Maybe if these sell well (and I have a feeling they will if the Headmasters mean anything) then the versions you speak of might get some more time in the light.

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Posted by Overcracker on March 11th, 2021 @ 4:13pm CST

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Barney Megatron is a bad figure. Arguably the worst Predacon design of the original line. Mostly due to his gimmick and bizarre colour palette. The fact that the Kingdom one has two actual arms, makes him better by default.

The chosen '96 figures only really hold up with nostalgia goggles on. The ones from that initial line that still genuinely impress were unfortunately not show characters.

Just reusing the same Primal visual design they have been churning out again since PoTP, is both lazy and far too safe. Since they are already using the Season One designs again in Kingdom. There is nothing special about them to mark the anniversary by showing the same things. Two and a half decades removed.

BWTM.jpg

Whereas these guys getting reissues would be infinitely more appealing to the collectors they are trying to reach.

While I agree Transmetal Re-ssiues would have been great.

Its the 25th anniversary of the Beastwars launch. Re-issuing figures from 2 years into the Beatwars line, seems unlikely.

Maybe in 2023 for the Transmetal 25th anniversary.

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Posted by Dragma Kerp on March 11th, 2021 @ 4:19pm CST

I hope those reissues are not walmart exclusive T_T
I've never had the original Cheetor and is like kinda a grail on my collection. I got the MP and even the Cyberverse one just to have one...
And also I could get another MEgs and another Rattrap because mine are a bit beaten up...

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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 11th, 2021 @ 4:21pm CST

Overcracker wrote:While I agree Transmetal Re-issues would have been great.

Its the 25th anniversary of the Beast wars launch. Re-issuing figures from 2 years into the Beast wars line, seems unlikely.

Maybe in 2023 for the Transmetal 25th anniversary.

That's the thing though. These reissues seem completely at odds with Kingdom. If the point of the third chapter of WFC using the Season One designs was a celebration of the anniversary, then why employ these here too?

Why not do what they are doing with WFC, with this anniversary year IE showing off characters and waves from the Beast Era in general. WFC for Season One, Reissues for Season Two etc

They bypass a lot of anniversaries when they choose to IE Car Robots last year, didn't even get a redeco. To me, this selection of releases is a bit too similar to those of the last anniversary. Which indicates they don't care that much.

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Posted by Munkky on March 11th, 2021 @ 4:29pm CST

The only one of these I didn't have when I was a kid is Megatron, but I have the Kingdom version now and he's seven different flavours of A M A Z I N G. My original Rattrap and Cheetor are still in good condition, and while my Optimus is missing some pieces I don't have much desire for another one, so I can skip all of these re-issues.

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