First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack

Sabrblade wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.

Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.

Doesn't it being squared off give it less blue? With at least the remaining semi circle of blue removed from the sea of blue?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.

Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.

Doesn't it being squared off give it less blue? With at least the remaining semi circle of blue removed from the sea of blue?

No it gives it more. Rounding it off would have cut off some of the blue area.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.

Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.

Doesn't it being squared off give it less blue? With at least the remaining semi circle of blue removed from the sea of blue?

No it gives it more. Rounding it off would have cut off some of the blue area.

Indeed. Here is a crude illustration of what I mean. On the left is the official robot mode cutting of the windshield, on the right is how I wish it was cut:

Sabrblade wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.

Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.

It's not hard to figure out, if they left it rounded it would sit far below his waist and interfere with the swivel. This is more of a compromise since it allows full articulation and it pulls the bottom of the windshield up nearly as high as it is in the cartoon even if it means changing the shape.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.

Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.

It's not hard to figure out, if they left it rounded it would sit far below his waist and interfere with the swivel. This is more of a compromise since it allows full articulation and it pulls the bottom of the windshield up nearly as high as it is in the cartoon even if it means changing the shape.

Emerje

See my illustration above that shows what I mean. It needed to not only be rounded, but also smaller, which would place it above the waist rather than down in front of it.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:Found a photo of the 5-pack Wheeljack…
I like it. I was in either way, but I like it.

Is it just me or is anyone else wondering how far the aftermarket prices on the Masterpieces will drop?

I don't see how. If we are talking about Wheeljack, that MP is still the best WJ out there. Plus MP is a different scale entirely and they have licensed alt modes.

Because lately Hasbro has been giving us animation accurate figures that are "Close Enough" for most people so they can skip on the MPs. I have both versions of Wheeljack and while they're fantastic, if I had this version first I wouldn't have gotten the MP. The Masterpieces deliver in accessories and little touches that make them stand out.

Yeah looks a bit better than the previous two, but not much. Never was a fan of this mould. Wheeljack, sunstreaker and mirage were a bit disappointing compared to other excellent figures we’ve had recently.

Will I get this? Probably will for hound and I liked the trail breaker, .

Waiting for the destroyed ss86 version now… also, once they release a powerglide, I’m expecting a full hoist goes to Hollywood box set,

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.

Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.

It's not hard to figure out, if they left it rounded it would sit far below his waist and interfere with the swivel. This is more of a compromise since it allows full articulation and it pulls the bottom of the windshield up nearly as high as it is in the cartoon even if it means changing the shape.

Emerje

See my illustration above that shows what I mean. It needed to not only be rounded, but also smaller, which would place it above the waist rather than down in front of it.

No, I get the differences, but making it smaller would have also meant making the car mode somehow smaller since it's not a fake part. Changing the shape of the windshield and roof would have meant making it too small for the car mode, it's already quite small. Only way to get the the chest right is too entirely start over again.

Emerje

The only way for that Wheeljack to have the "right" chest would have to use a fake part. It could have been possible to do, but they went the other route.

In clear brown, that chest work, but in "cartoon" baby-blue, it's just ugly.

-Kanrabat- wrote:In clear brown, that chest work, but in "cartoon" baby-blue, it's just ugly.

Even though I prefer the opaque windows I do wish they wouldn't use that bright blue. The cartoon used the bright blue sparingly, usually going for a pale blue.





Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:In clear brown, that chest work, but in "cartoon" baby-blue, it's just ugly.

Even though I prefer the opaque windows I do wish they wouldn't use that bright blue. The cartoon used the bright blue sparingly, usually going for a pale blue.


Emerje

These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.

Toyhax may fix this with Reprolabels, but it should have been done since the start.

Here's a better example of what I mean, showing the whole windshield in its vehicle mode shape, but with the cutting for robot mode still visible. On the left is the official cutting, on the right is my suggestion:



Or, hey, if nothing else, shaping the whole windshield like how it's shaped on the Authentics figure (which already cribs much of its design and transformation from the Earthrise figure, just made more simplified) would have been just fine:

-Kanrabat- wrote:These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.

For the 35th anniversary, Hasbro repainted some Siege figures with cell shading, offered through Walmart. I'm not sure what the overall consensus was. If they were liked or not? I don't really mind either way. I've just seen some other companies try to do it was comic book based characters (Like Batman for instance) and the fans of those lines seem pretty negative towards it.

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.

For the 35th anniversary, Hasbro repainted some Siege figures with cell shading, offered through Walmart. I'm not sure what the overall consensus was. If they were liked or not? I don't really mind either way. I've just seen some other companies try to do it was comic book based characters (Like Batman for instance) and the fans of those lines seem pretty negative towards it.

The problem with those release were that they cell shaded the whole figures, not just the windows.

Wow... not feeling Wheeljack at all, the opaque sky blue wind shield looks really odd with the squared off corners.

The issue is the rest of the car windshield needs to tuck into the shins, so not sure they could re-tool it to cut it any other way, or if it would have even been worth it to do.

Though, I'm still kind off annoyed its the only way to get Sunstreaker at a decent price.

Prepare for a flood of Wheeljacks hitting eBay once this 5 pack is released. I mean does anybody still need a Wheeljack at this point? One as awkward as Siege with opaque windows?

Somehow the squared off windshield looked less odd when done in translucent smokey black.

thought that was just a bad digi bash, if not then it really highlights how sausages the windows are on that wheeljack figure (I only picked up netflix version because it was £7). He could definitely have done with a retool like Hound.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.

For the 35th anniversary, Hasbro repainted some Siege figures with cell shading, offered through Walmart. I'm not sure what the overall consensus was. If they were liked or not? I don't really mind either way. I've just seen some other companies try to do it was comic book based characters (Like Batman for instance) and the fans of those lines seem pretty negative towards it.

The problem with those release were that they cell shaded the whole figures, not just the windows.

Yeah, it look weird for the whole figure. Cell-shade just the windows and it would look great.

I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it. Cant wait for sunstreaker where everyone pretends it’s the first time theyre seeing his windshield on his chest…or this engine gun…or his little chinstrap/goatee.

Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it.

Oh, I didn't like it back then either. I just wasn't as vocal about it at the time.

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it.

Oh, I didn't like it back then either. I just wasn't as vocal about it at the time.

Considering how you live on the message boards and always have something to say about anything and everything I highly doubt you weren’t vocal about it 4 years ago.

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it.

Oh, I didn't like it back then either. I just wasn't as vocal about it at the time.

Considering how you live on the message boards and always have something to say about anything and everything I highly doubt you weren’t vocal about it 4 years ago.

LOL, I am on here a lot, aren't I?

I wasn't vocal about it back then because it was a figure I didn't want at the time. No sense bemoaning the look of something I didn't want to buy.

Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it. Cant wait for sunstreaker where everyone pretends it’s the first time theyre seeing his windshield on his chest…or this engine gun…or his little chinstrap/goatee.

People complained then, and now that it's made even more obvious with the blue people are complaining again. It's not a great looking design, people are allowed to complain about it.

Oh man, look at this. Why Hasbro couldn't have shaped the windshield like this from the get-go, I have no idea.

I don’t really like the look of the bottom of the torso that meets the waist being curved as if his lower torso is all glass. That looks awkward.
That’s also not how it looked in the animation.
Like I said, the bottom of the torso is fine being squared-off…. The issue is that the windshield should have only been a portion of that part. The character model has the windshield relatively short; all they had to do was cut a curved line into the torso— above the line have the light blue paint; below the line, leave it white plastic. It’s that simple.
As I said before, even if they didn’t want to mess with making the lower torso angled, what I described above is way better than what we’re getting.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I don’t really like the look of the bottom of the torso that meets the waist being curved as if his lower torso is all glass. That looks awkward.
That’s also not how it looked in the animation.
Like I said, the bottom of the torso is fine being squared-off…. The issue is that the windshield should have only been a portion of that part. The character model has the windshield relatively short; all they had to do was cut a curved line into the torso— above the line have the light blue paint; below the line, leave it white plastic. It’s that simple.
As I said before, even if they didn’t want to mess with making the lower torso angled, what I described above is way better than what we’re getting.

Curving it would certainly have looked better, but that would have also meant hiding even more of that excess in the legs. The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode. Plus having the windshield so low means you've basically eliminated the waist swivel since it's now being blocked.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode.

Which photoshop?

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode.

Which photoshop?

The one with all of the variations lined up.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode.

Which photoshop?

The one with all of the variations lined up.

Emerje

I don't think they are stretched. The 3d print files also appear to include ankle parts that increase his height.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:The other thing is that photo shop above also stretched him out so the roof and windshield don't look too big, butt hat would have made for an oddly long car mode.

Which photoshop?

The one with all of the variations lined up.

Emerje

I don't think they are stretched. The 3d print files also appear to include ankle parts that increase his height.

Yeah, that's not a photoshop. Those are ankle pieces in addition to the windshield variants.

This is a full STL pack pack for a 3D printed parts to improve the look of Earthrise wheeljack.
It makes him taller and gives him a new chest. You can modify the chest and heels with no damage to the figure, you just need to push out one pin.
To get the full legs extension you will need to cut out a small part of the plastic on the feet.

Ah, I didn't realize that was a kit, that's why I called it a photoshop (I know there's a link there, I just thought it was a link to the source).

I don't like the way the car mode looks as a result of the smaller windshield. And watching the video for a clearer look it really does eliminate the waist swivel, the windshield is right up against it now.

Emerje

Below you will find more images of upcoming redecos for previously released Transformers Generations figures. We have Wheeljack in G1 Sunbow colours. Its out first look at the toy’s alt mode and it’s available to purchase on e-bay if anyone wants to review him early. We also have more images of the Marvel Comics versions of Grimlock and Shockwave. Grimlock comes with swords for 2 other Dinobots previously released in the SS line. We know there will at least be one more toy released in this Marvel Comics deco line.

Here is the ebay listing https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F126322971175%3Fh%20...%205335815852%3C%2Fa%3E%26

So these will be officially Selects releases, available online only?

Rodimus Prime wrote:So these will be officially Selects releases, available online only?

Only wheeljack will be selects.

Take my money and GIMME!

I'm diggin' that Wheeljack.
Anxious to get a look at the others we haven't seen photos of yet.
Especially Sunstreaker and Hound (to see the actual, final version).

I also think these comic-themed figures look great.
I won't get either, but I definitely see the appeal.
That Grimlock looks incredibly cool.

I hate those giant painted windows. Meanwhile the rest of the car looks naked. Oh well, at least now I will have a donor Wheeljack for the other half of the Reprolabels set for wheeljack and smokescreen

I'm happy to see that Wheeljack comes with a blaster. Hopefully, this means Sunstreaker will come with one too. We're encouraging people to buy the stolen figures off eBay now?

Smoke free home Wheeljack FTW

I can't stand those painted windows. Makes it cheap.

Looking at the comic-deco Grimlock and Shockwave - the attempt at comic book 'shading' just isn't doing it for me. Those are meant to be lines which represent the falling of light and shadow, to depict metallic glossiness and reflections. And static black ink lines just can't do that. Using paint applications to merely simulate the creation of shading, which would normally be the natural result of an external light source, it just seems gauche to me...

That Wheeljack is ugly as sin. It is painful to see.

Shockwave is KING and will be mine.

As for Grimlock, he look great but will be an easy pass from me.

That's a nice d**k move / giving this latest Wheeljack a hand pistola when he should have had from the very first figure!!!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm happy to see that Wheeljack comes with a blaster. Hopefully, this means Sunstreaker will come with one too. We're encouraging people to buy the stolen figures off eBay now?

Well, The last use of that blaster was for Medix and they also gave him the other blaster from Elita-1 too, so I'd say there is a reasonable chance Sunstreaker gets the other one since they would be on the same mold.

There’s no great place to post this thought, but I wish Hastak had a better, more scheduled set of announcements/reveals for the year.
I understand things in terms of production can be thrown off for multiple reasons.
And sure, surprises can sometimes be nice or “fun”, but I know the vast majority of collectors who try and stay on the pulse would really appreciate officially knowing what’s being released during the year.
Think about how much we randomly get from leakers. Which is fine.
And sure, Hastak may not care and can even claim there are advantages to unofficial news.
I just don’t get why or how it would be a negative to publicize which figures are being released, through which retailers, accompanied by photos or even official renders. And they obvsly know the release schedule…. It’s not requiring anyone do a bunch of legwork.
No, I’m not sitting here pissed or upset; more just thinking “out loud”. Not to mention, thinking about the TF budget for the year and wishing it wasn’t quite so up in the air.

Shockwave is just awesome. I need the new version of the ray gun though. I'll buy this cause he's my favorite. That transformers comic when he resurrected and destroyed the automotive and decepticons Will forever be a classic and had Optimus primes head on probes lol.

Transformers Generations Selects Legacy United Autobots Stand United 5-Pack

https://hasbropulse.com/products/transformers-generations-selects-legacy-united-autobots-stand-united-5-pack





More pics in the order link.

Trailbreaker looks best of the bunch. also looks like they have borrowed yellow matching skills from Takara Tomy Yay!

the lack of cthru plastic on all of these just highlights how bad these look compared to car bots of the yester year. with only 3 deluxes I'd be wanting out the set I would have to wait for sales on this. That or pick up ss86 jazz and try finding hound and sunstreaker seperately.

Is anyone else having trouble accessing the page for this pack on Pulse? Either I’ve done something wrong or they’ve taken it down because someone gooded?

RotorstormNZ wrote:Is anyone else having trouble accessing the page for this pack on Pulse? Either I’ve done something wrong or they’ve taken it down because someone gooded?

Yeah, it got taken down. Luckily, BBTS still works: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/268319

We've seen leaks, we've seen rumors, but now we finally have an official reveal (and preorders available!) For the *take a deep breath* Transformers Generations Selects Legacy United Autobots Stand United 5-pack!

This set will be released in the Generations Selects line, meaning that preorders should be available at all the usual online retailers. It consists of five Deluxe figures, all in cartoon decos, and in the case of four of them, no longer including translucent plastic, which should help durability. All five figures are of previously released molds. The five figures are Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and Trailbreaker, first released in the Earthrise line on 2020; Jazz, released in Studio Series 86 in 2020; and the long rumored and anticipated Hound, in his Earth mode, first released as Detritus in Legacy Evolution in 2023.

This set is scheduled to start shipping in July, with a retail cost around $110 USD, which works out to a cost of $22 USD per figure, less than the current retail cost of a Deluxe. Photos are below.

Let us know what you think of this new set. Did you miss out on Trailbreaker and Sunstreaker when they were first released? Picking it up to finally get a modern Earth-mode Hound in your collection? Sound off in the forums!