First Look at New Leobreaker Redeco?

If it's true, that does look nice. But I'm getting tired of the mold so I'm up in the air about whether I'd want to buy him or not.

hey this redeco look good o.0

Wouldn't surprise me if it were real but if it is it's for some asian con coming up I'm not aware of. Still Leo Prime in Lio Convoy's colors is a no brainer. I'd buy it.

I'm buying this.

Hasbro can call it Leo Prime or whatever, but to me, it's GALEON!!!

Wouldn't you have thought this would have been done a long time ago? What's cool about this is its showing that, if it is real, the Universe line is still being worked on. Yay!

First Gen wrote:Wouldn't you have thought this would have been done a long time ago? What's cool about this is its showing that, if it is real, the Universe line is still being worked on. Yay!

I bet this will be a movie line exclusive. Might get shown at SDCC.

Seeing as how i missed the universe leo prime (or what ever he was called) ill be getting this if its true. I hope it is.

Wouldn't mind if this were legit. While I agree with Cheetron about this mold getting a little redundant, this is better than U2.0 Leo Prime. That deco wasn't really bad, but given the character it was meant to be based on, this is what it should have been to begin with.

Guys, that figure is legit. That's not white paint. I can tell that's white plastic and factory paint apps.

If that's homemade then someone made their own molds. I'm 99% sure that's going to be officially released.

First Gen wrote:Wouldn't you have thought this would have been done a long time ago? What's cool about this is its showing that, if it is real, the Universe line is still being worked on. Yay!

I agree, this should have been done long ago. I'm thinking before, or instead of, the Nemesis repaint of this mold. I like the other most recent repaint (red) just because it doesn't stand out so much when combined in the Savage Claw mode but this fiugre I don't think would ever see that mode if added to my collection. He'd look cool on the shelf next to my RM Lio Prime and Legends Class Leo Prime. Kinda like "small...medium...Holy Crap!!"

That looks really nice!

<sarcasm> Wow, less red and more white. This looks so much better! </sarcasm>

Sorry, couldn't help it. I didn't buy the first repaint of this mold into Lio Convoy, and they aren't gonna get me with this one either. Great mold for Razorclaw, love my BotCon piece, but this mold just doesn't sell me "LeoPrime". Give me a new mold. Or release the original mold in the States under the Universe line, like they should've done the first time.

Not trying to rain on anybody's parade, if you like it, then by all means, buy it. I'll save up my money for a Lio Convoy.

I'm glad I missed out on the first one. This one looks much more like Leo Prime.
The only gripe I have with it is that it still retains the Autobot symbol instead of having a Maximal symbol, but that's just me being nitpicky.

Nekoman wrote:

First Gen wrote:Wouldn't you have thought this would have been done a long time ago? What's cool about this is its showing that, if it is real, the Universe line is still being worked on. Yay!

I bet this will be a movie line exclusive. Might get shown at SDCC.

The Universe line has been reduced to an exclusive repaint line (with Skyfall, Hardhead and G1-style Powerglide coming up), so it's not over by a long shot. Chances are, this Leo Prime will fall into it.

And I'm getting it!

Mold, seriously overused.

And we've still got the TRU exclusive Black LioConvoy version to go, I'm sure...

robofreak wrote:Guys, that figure is legit. That's not white paint. I can tell that's white plastic and factory paint apps.

If that's homemade then someone made their own molds. I'm 99% sure that's going to be officially released.

That and one of my buddies at BotCon saw the figure when the Hasbro rep fumbled a few figs under the case as they were setting up the display.

That horrible mold gets reused, again? oh well at least it's in the colours it was supposed to be released in the first time it was made into that character.

I'm calling Exclusive, probably Target or TRU. Looks good, but, yeah, it should have been released in those colors a long time ago.

I'd get this guy in a heart beat. I got BWII Galvatron a long time ago, but I never really cared too much to get the Lio Convoy figure. Now that it's skyrocketed in value, I don't really see myself getting that figure just for the sake of having Galvatron's rival. This Universe Leo Convoy (in his proper colors) will fit the bill quite nicely. I'd rather plop down 20 bucks for a repaint of a decent mold than 100 dollars for a mold that doesn't really appeal to me.

Long story short, count me in!

WolfDawg wrote:I'd get this guy in a heart beat. I got BWII Galvatron a long time ago, but I never really cared too much to get the Lio Convoy figure. Now that it's skyrocketed in value, I don't really see myself getting that figure just for the sake of having Galvatron's rival. This Universe Leo Convoy (in his proper colors) will fit the bill quite nicely. I'd rather plop down 20 bucks for a repaint of a decent mold than 100 dollars for a mold that doesn't really appeal to me.

Long story short, count me in!

Keep your eyes open on ebay every so often, he's not that expensive.

I had two Lio Convoys,the first one was he BWII Movie gold and silver redeco, and the original one.

When GameCave had an abundance of BWII and BW Neo toys for sale back in 2000, I got the movie Lio Convoy for $29.99. I spent $40 for the original repaint off ebay a few years ago, which I liked a whole lot better. I have scored him for friends and I think $50 was what I paid the last time.

Looks very nice. Hope its not an exclusive. Or at the very least a Wal-mart exclusive, that way I'd at least have a shot at finding him.

Now the real question is, will this one have the electronics, or not?

If not, then I'm sure Leo Breaker and Nemesis Breaker will go up in price. Being the only versions of the mold with electronics. And they are quite expensive already.

Nice homage. Not a huge fan of BW but will pick this one up. Better color scheme than TFU Leoprime IMO.

Don't need that. I got an original Lio Convoy that works well enough. I also got Botcon Raxorclaw, which is enough of that mold for me thank you.

Wow this one is alot better than the red Leo Prime But why the keep repainting Leobreaker...

Transform23!! wrote:Wow this one is alot better than the red Leo Prime But why the keep repainting Leobreaker...

I think that they are figuring that if they try enough times they might finally get it right.
I'd say between BotCon Razorclaw and this one that we can forget the first 6-8 attempts (or whatever the # was) and finally call it good. NOW they can retire the mold.

T-Macksimus wrote:

Transform23!! wrote:Wow this one is alot better than the red Leo Prime But why the keep repainting Leobreaker...

I think that they are figuring that if they try enough times they might finally get it right.
I'd say between BotCon Razorclaw and this one that we can forget the first 6-8 attempts (or whatever the # was) and finally call it good. NOW they can retire the mold.

They got me buying the Razorclaw and this one . How many repaints are there with the same mold? Razorclaw is the best Ligarjack repaint to me.

Transform23!! wrote:Wow this one is alot better than the red Leo Prime But why the keep repainting Leobreaker...

I dunno why they do it. Why did they use the BM deluxe-class Jetstorm mold 5 times before they moved on. It's one of my favorite molds, but 5 times is a bit much. It's only because this deco leo prime is better than the U2.0 version that I'd even think of being bothered with it. This will be...what... wait a minute...
1 - leobreaker
2 - nemesis breaker
3 - red leo prime
4 - razorclaw
5 - bw-neo(?) deco leo prime

Damnit...tied with deluxe-class Jetstorm with how many times it's been used now...

ShGarland_1383 wrote:

Transform23!! wrote:Wow this one is alot better than the red Leo Prime But why the keep repainting Leobreaker...

I dunno why they do it. Why did they use the BM deluxe-class Jetstorm mold 5 times before they moved on. It's one of my favorite molds, but 5 times is a bit much. It's only because this deco leo prime is better than the U2.0 version that I'd even think of being bothered with it. This will be...what... wait a minute...
1 - leobreaker
2 - nemesis breaker
3 - red leo prime
4 - razorclaw
5 - bw-neo(?) deco leo prime

Damnit...tied with deluxe-class Jetstorm with how many times it's been used now...

Yea, they're killing the mold...I have like no more intrest with the Jetstorm mold...and now the Lijarjack mole seems kinda dead to me...

Hopefully they can come up with some new mold...I think only Takara are coming up with new ideas these days...

ShGarland_1383 wrote:

Transform23!! wrote:Wow this one is alot better than the red Leo Prime But why the keep repainting Leobreaker...

I dunno why they do it. Why did they use the BM deluxe-class Jetstorm mold 5 times before they moved on. It's one of my favorite molds, but 5 times is a bit much. It's only because this deco leo prime is better than the U2.0 version that I'd even think of being bothered with it. This will be...what... wait a minute...
1 - leobreaker
2 - nemesis breaker
3 - red leo prime
4 - razorclaw
5 - bw-neo(?) deco leo prime

Damnit...tied with deluxe-class Jetstorm with how many times it's been used now...

Son of a....this means I'm missing a Jetstorm! Now I've got more hunting to do, dammit. I've only got 4 versions. Thankfully there is only 1 version of Leo/Lio-whosits floating around in my family and it lives with my kids so I wont have to worry about seeing double if I'm able to lay my hands on this one. Although I did want the red version just because I thought it would look better merged with Cyb. Leader Prime.

ShGarland_1383 wrote:

Transform23!! wrote:Wow this one is alot better than the red Leo Prime But why the keep repainting Leobreaker...

I dunno why they do it. Why did they use the BM deluxe-class Jetstorm mold 5 times before they moved on. It's one of my favorite molds, but 5 times is a bit much. It's only because this deco leo prime is better than the U2.0 version that I'd even think of being bothered with it. This will be...what... wait a minute...
1 - leobreaker
2 - nemesis breaker
3 - red leo prime
4 - razorclaw
5 - bw-neo(?) deco leo prime

Damnit...tied with deluxe-class Jetstorm with how many times it's been used now...

That's it? There's only five versions of this mold? It seems like so many more, and the only one I want is Razorclaw.

Maybe this is going to be a Club figure....

T-Macksimus wrote:Son of a....this means I'm missing a Jetstorm! Now I've got more hunting to do, dammit. I've only got 4 versions.

Don't wanna get too off topic or anything, but since I've already brought it up anyway I thought I'd do a checklist of the BM Jetstorm/aero-drone mold like I'd done for the leobreaker mold before. (Mainly wanna do it so T-Macksimus can see which one he could have missed, but also to show how the mold's been used.)

1-BM Jetstorm
2-BM Sonic Attack Jet (the "aero-drone")
3-RID Storm Jet
4-RID Jhiaxus
5-U1.0 Skywarp

Pretty sure Jhiaxus was a KB-exclusive. That's how I remember it, anyway. By this time, they'd made the switch from RID to Armada, and that switch was reflected in the packaging while this release was still RID. The Armada sticker was also thrown in, with the TF logo only altered back to the RID version.

Edit to avoid double-posting:

Dagon wrote:

ShGarland_1383 wrote:

Transform23!! wrote:Wow this one is alot better than the red Leo Prime But why the keep repainting Leobreaker...

I dunno why they do it. Why did they use the BM deluxe-class Jetstorm mold 5 times before they moved on. It's one of my favorite molds, but 5 times is a bit much. It's only because this deco leo prime is better than the U2.0 version that I'd even think of being bothered with it. This will be...what... wait a minute...
1 - leobreaker
2 - nemesis breaker
3 - red leo prime
4 - razorclaw
5 - bw-neo(?) deco leo prime

Damnit...tied with deluxe-class Jetstorm with how many times it's been used now...

That's it? There's only five versions of this mold? It seems like so many more, and the only one I want is Razorclaw.

Maybe this is going to be a Club figure....

Yeah, just the 5, unless there's a variation to the Japanese release of Leobreaker I dunno about. I dunno about using this deco as a club figure, though...it'd make more sense to use this deco as an HTS-exclusive. (SDCC hasn't happened yet. It could get launched then...)

Jetstorm doesn't make for a fair comparison as all 5 releases (was there a BWR release as well?) are straight repaints. The Leobreaker mould has seen no less than 3 head variants across it's many colours.

waaaaghlord wrote:Jetstorm doesn't make for a fair comparison as all 5 releases (was there a BWR release as well?) are straight repaints. The Leobreaker bould has seen no less than 3 head variants across it's many colours.

good point, waaaaghlord. still counts for 5 variants, but they didn't retool the Jetstorm mold any in that list I put up, so it is a bit different. Edit: I'd think there would have been a release in BWR, but isn't that the Japanese release of BM?

Yes, Beast Wars Returns was the Japanese (TRU exclusive I think, but I could be wrong on that) release of Beast Machines from a couple of years back. Nowhere near the full line saw the BWR treatment though and I'm not sure which toys did and didn't see release. The colours were meant to be more show acurate though, so if there was a Jetstorm it would have been a minor plastic/paint variant to the original Hasbro release (as indeed are many Takara vs Hasbro releases of the same mould as the same character).

Going wildly off topic, Beast Machines remains the single greatest Transformers cartoon to date, it's a real shame that it was so short lived (and that the Maximal toys sucked).

O.K. lets see if I can do this without backtracking.
1) Thanks for the checklist. Very helpful. Now coinciding with that and correct me if I screw this up...
2) Numbers 1,3 4 and 5 with corresponding primary colors Blue, White, Orange and Black meaning I'm minus the Drone!??
3) Good point about the head molds but didn't 1 of the 5 jets have a slightly different missle style (like that freaking matters)
4) I was going to debate waaaaghlords last comment but when I remembered the lack of human element in Beast Wars compared to the clips of Energon and Cybertron that I watched last night, I realized he may well be right. Beast Wars had no irritating brats that you just want to reach out and strangle so that makes it the best series.

Going back to #3, don't answer it either way. It's not important. I was going to question the 3rd head-mold but then I realized it must be Razorclaw although I don't know if it was just the camera angle or what but the pic for this guy made his head seem narrower than the pic on the box for the Universe version. Did anyone else get that impression?

waaaaghlord wrote:Yes, Beast Wars Returns was the Japanese (TRU exclusive I think, but I could be wrong on that) release of Beast Machines from a couple of years back. Nowhere near the full line saw the BWR treatment though and I'm not sure which toys did and didn't see release.

So everyone gets this right (I've given up on trademark vs. copyright):

Maximals
Blast Punch Optimus Primal
Mega Cheetor
Blackarachnia (repainted)
Rattrap
Noble Savage (repainted)
Silverbolt (repainted)
Nightscream

Vehicons
Megatron
Tank Drone as Tankor (repainted)
Motorcycle Drone as Thrust
Ultra Jetstorm
Obsidian (repainted)
Strika (repainted)
Megatron Megabolt (repainted)

Everything else was unreleased, including the deluxe Jetstorm (it never got remolded btw). Some did get into Japan via Universe "USA Editions".

Back on track...

T-Macksimus wrote:1) Thanks for the checklist. Very helpful. Now coinciding with that and correct me if I screw this up...
2) Numbers 1,3 4 and 5 with corresponding primary colors Blue, White, Orange and Black meaning I'm minus the Drone!??

NP. And it looks like you might be missing the drone. For visual reference, though: Jetstorm VSD entry and Sonic Attack Jet VSD. Both at least have the tech spec card, so you have that to go by at least.

T-Macksimus wrote:Going back to #3, don't answer it either way. It's not important. I was going to question the 3rd head-mold but then I realized it must be Razorclaw although I don't know if it was just the camera angle or what but the pic for this guy made his head seem narrower than the pic on the box for the Universe version. Did anyone else get that impression?

Know you didn't want an answer, but the third head is I think based off G1 Predacon commander Razorclaw. In the 2006 botcon comic, I think G1 Razorclaw was given credit for forming what we know as the BW Predacons by expanding his G1 combiner team into a full-blown army. Think his appearance in the comic led to the figure at this year's botcon, much like the Elita-1 figure being from the Classicverse comic from botcon 07.

Thanks again guys. Yup, I'm minus the drone. I'm pretty sure I know right where I can pick one up but I have neither the cash nor the inclination to deal the place that has it even if it is just a 15 minute drive away.
As for question 3, the answer about the head is fine I just didn't want anyone to waste time about my missle inquiry.
I'm not overly concerned about head sculpts now that I think about it because my display space is so limited he would probably be in lion mode just for the sake of stability where he would be displayed. The RM version would be right alongside with the Legends version directly under the head/chest, all in lion modes.