First Look at MP Rhinox and Legacy Silverbolt

Rhinox better be able to recreate the too many beans action. Still wondering what happened to MP Rattrap unless they are waiting for another year of the rat.

blackeyedprime wrote:Rhinox better be able to recreate the too many beans action. Still wondering what happened to MP Rattrap unless they are waiting for another year of the rat.

Forget MP Rattrap, I'm still wondering whatever happened to MP Cliffjumper- we've seen test shots, painted samples, etc, for a couple of years now, it seems like, but no reveal or announcement.

Back on topic, I'm a little surprised that Kingdom came and went with no BW Silverbolt, Legacy and Legacy Evolution both came and went. Even a three episode figure (Tigerhawk) was announced and shown before a main character like Silverbolt.

While the wings look a bit odd, overall Silverbolt doesn't look too bad, and I will definitely pick one up once he's out. As far as beasts go, I'm still hoping we get Depth Charge and Rampage one day, Quickstrike I can take or leave because I never really liked the character in the show, and maybe in a few years I'd like another go at Scorponok, because that Kingdom Deluxe isn't very good.

Bounti76 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Rhinox better be able to recreate the too many beans action. Still wondering what happened to MP Rattrap unless they are waiting for another year of the rat.

Forget MP Rattrap, I'm still wondering whatever happened to MP Cliffjumper- we've seen test shots, painted samples, etc, for a couple of years now, it seems like, but no reveal or announcement.

Back on topic, I'm a little surprised that Kingdom came and went with no BW Silverbolt, Legacy and Legacy Evolution both came and went. Even a three episode figure (Tigerhawk) was announced and shown before a main character like Silverbolt.

might have something to do with beast wars metals not being popular in Japan. they really wanted to focus on the core beasties to maximize profit on both sides of the pond I would wager.

Seeing both of these guys on the horizon though gives me the warm fuzzies. keep bringing the mp beasts hastaktom

YES! Please, more Fuzors and Transmetals. I can almost smell the Depth Charge and Rampage On the horizon. Knew Silvie would be made from Tigerhawk the second I saw him, still want both.

My ultimate hope is a Maximal Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, and ultimately an Arcee out of that!

Stormshot_Prime wrote:YES! Please, more Fuzors and Transmetals. I can almost smell the Depth Charge and Rampage On the horizon. Knew Silvie would be made from Tigerhawk the second I saw him, still want both.

My ultimate hope is a Maximal Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, and ultimately an Arcee out of that!

I wouldn't be sure about a Tigerhawk retool as there is a whole class size of difference between them (I belive leaks put him at Voyager level to Tigerhawk's leader class). There may be shared engineering however but it could also be its own thing entirely (not like it doesn't have repaint potential).

ZeroWolf wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:YES! Please, more Fuzors and Transmetals. I can almost smell the Depth Charge and Rampage On the horizon. Knew Silvie would be made from Tigerhawk the second I saw him, still want both.

My ultimate hope is a Maximal Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, and ultimately an Arcee out of that!

I wouldn't be sure about a Tigerhawk retool as there is a whole class size of difference between them (I belive leaks put him at Voyager level to Tigerhawk's leader class). There may be shared engineering however but it could also be its own thing entirely (not like it doesn't have repaint potential).

yeah, just comparing the two there's no obvious parts in common. Tigerhawk has plenty of repaint potential like toy colors and Universe Razorclaw so it's not necessary to retool it to get the most out of the mold.



There is that theory that Tigerhawk will be somehow retooled into the Leader Thundertron from the Star Seeker capsule at Walmart, but I'm very doubtful of that.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:YES! Please, more Fuzors and Transmetals. I can almost smell the Depth Charge and Rampage On the horizon. Knew Silvie would be made from Tigerhawk the second I saw him, still want both.

My ultimate hope is a Maximal Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, and ultimately an Arcee out of that!

I wouldn't be sure about a Tigerhawk retool as there is a whole class size of difference between them (I belive leaks put him at Voyager level to Tigerhawk's leader class). There may be shared engineering however but it could also be its own thing entirely (not like it doesn't have repaint potential).

yeah, just comparing the two there's no obvious parts in common. Tigerhawk has plenty of repaint potential like toy colors and Universe Razorclaw so it's not necessary to retool it to get the most out of the mold.



There is that theory that Tigerhawk will be somehow retooled into the Leader Thundertron from the Star Seeker capsule at Walmart, but I'm very doubtful of that.

Emerje

I was always doubtful about that one but we'll see eventually. Though to think that a character like Thundertron would get a release in two different size classes in the space of 12 months is a bit amusing.

Happy to see Silverbolt looking to use what seems to be a mostly if not completely accurate mold. And more MP beasties are always a treat. Hope I'll be able to recreate this scene with 'em.

MP Rhinox does look good! I'm impressed they went with a new mould. Given MP Tigatron was the last Mainframe BW release Three Years ago. I expected MP Tarantulas to follow suit as a shared engineering, upscaled Blackarachnia. This creates an even further disparity between the number of remaining Predacons and Maximals. But, that just means the last few will all be Preds.

I wish they'd just hurry up and do MP Airazor. I'm Rhinoxed out at the moment...not that Airazor hasn't had almost the same amount of figures Rhinox has had recently. I just like Airazor better. She got me back into Transformers way back when.

Even with a raised profile in recent years. I still think Airazor and Scorponok will likely be the last two MP’s. Given their popularity during the show.

Can't wait to see Rhinox's transformation.

Nice to have another version of Beast Wars Silverbolt. THe original toy was already pretty accurate, only needing new wings and be taller, so I wonder this new version will add.

Day 1370 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Munkky wrote:While the wings look a bit odd, overall Silverbolt doesn't look too bad, and I will definitely pick one up once he's out. As far as beasts go, I'm still hoping we get Depth Charge and Rampage one day, Quickstrike I can take or leave because I never really liked the character in the show, and maybe in a few years I'd like another go at Scorponok, because that Kingdom Deluxe isn't very good.

Oh hell yes. For some reason I'd totally forgotten this was a possibility.

BW Rampage is my personal nostalgia champion (had one of the dopest intro episodes ever on the show and was the first action figure I ever remember being properly hyped for) so that'd be an auto-buy for me. I thought the original figure was pretty cool but with modern engineering they could improve soooo much on it.

Takara has its big reveal day today, and that includes their next Beast Wars Masterpiece figure, Rhinox. The reveal was done through Dengeki Hobby. You can see the images below which look like pure magic once again (with lots of paneling as well). The 35,200 yen price puts him around the $230 mark, including taxes. We'll see what Hasbro sells it for domestically on Pulse. The toy is set for an end of June 2024 release.

MP-59...
Have their really been nine Masterpiece releases since Tigatron??

That looks so good. Really looking forward to this one!

Rhinox looks fantastic. Damn the need to complete the Maximals.

Also, I know it's just the Rhino mouth's upper palate behind his head, but it totally looks like Rhinox has long blonde hair and a mohawk.

Really happy with this release. What I am most curious is the rhino limbs since those parts seem completely different in robot mode. And I like the price. We get a bot as big as Dinobot, just about, but much cheaper thanks to less accessories, something I never really need.

Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".

Beautiful. Rooting for this since longtime, next in my own personal wishlist of BW MPs is Waspinator.

Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".

It'd need an almost complete repaint to be spot on. I don't know whether the episode is so popular to justify it, even if that would allow to reuse the mold.

Looks great but not £150 more than Primal great.

bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".

Sounds like a great redeco option

Eh. I know Rhinox has some really loyal, energetic fans. But somehow, the character and its figures never 'landed' for me. This one will be an easy pass, but me not buying just leaves more for the other collectors who will give him a good home!

....waiting for third party bean vines, lift up tail with blue energon fart cloud, and sippy straw hat....

william-james88 wrote:

bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".

Sounds like a great redeco option

I agree, especially since he gets a whole new Predacon color scheme with the silver instead of gold and I think a purplish tint to his skin color instead of brown (and perhaps some other color swaps???). A Predacon Rhinox redeco would be very welcomed!

Rhinox looks fantastic. I think these Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have been absolutely the best of the entire line, which is ironic because I complain about the overly cartoon look on the modern G1 Masterpiece figures, but absolutely am thrilled at how accurate these are to the Beast Wars cartoon. Brain conflicts!

Hm, thinking about a Predacon Rhinox redeco, you know what would be fun is to see an Insecticon color scheme on Waspinator inspired by him talking about Shrapnel in Dark Designs. Maybe on a Transmetal Waspinator if they ever tackle those (just as a fun non-canon one-off), though canonically his original body would make sense from Dark Designs, but for legacy purposes Transmetal Waspinator would fit in better with G1 Insecticons.

Overcracker wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. Damn the need to complete the Maximals.

Also, I know it's just the Rhino mouth's upper palate behind his head, but it totally looks like Rhinox has long blonde hair and a mohawk.

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Well crap, now I can't unsee it!

Seibertron wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. I think these Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have been absolutely the best of the entire line, which is ironic because I complain about the overly cartoon look on the modern G1 Masterpiece figures, but absolutely am thrilled at how accurate these are to the Beast Wars cartoon. Brain conflicts!

That is funny. I feel the same way. But now that I think about it, it makes sense. Beast Wars being cg was much closer to being photo-realistic. So show to toy works. The 84 cartoon was a drawing of what we imagined to be photo realistic. So show accuracy may be cool and fun for some people looking for cartoon looking models, but for others it seems off.

TK415 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. I think these Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have been absolutely the best of the entire line, which is ironic because I complain about the overly cartoon look on the modern G1 Masterpiece figures, but absolutely am thrilled at how accurate these are to the Beast Wars cartoon. Brain conflicts!

That is funny. I feel the same way. But now that I think about it, it makes sense. Beast Wars being cg was much closer to being photo-realistic. So show to toy works. The 84 cartoon was a drawing of what we imagined to be photo realistic. So show accuracy may be cool and fun for some people looking for cartoon looking models, but for others it seems off.

There's that. Plus there's the idea that the CG transformations and differences between modes are literally impossible (they replace one 3d model with another), while the G1 show transformations were all based on the toy transformations. So While giving Optimus a fake cab feels off, since the part is right there, giving Rhinox a totally different "fake" rhino mouth is fine since that cartoon look simply can't be replicated. Plus, I love how they still find ways to incporporate these fake parts in the alt modes, like having the fake raptor head on Dinobot's chest become the belly for the raptor mode.

I stopped collecting G1 MPs because I found it cheating that they would just use fake parts for everything, for slight aesthetic reasons. I get something more satisfying with the CGUG lines. But with Beasts Wars, nothing comes close and the MPs feel like miracles. Still waiting on that Terrorsaur.

BluePhirePB wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. Damn the need to complete the Maximals.

Also, I know it's just the Rhino mouth's upper palate behind his head, but it totally looks like Rhinox has long blonde hair and a mohawk.

rhinox.jpg

Well crap, now I can't unsee it!

You're welcome.

At first, all Masterpiece Transformers figures look like magic. But then you see different angles and slowly you can see the compromises done to turn this into an actual physical figure. Well Rhinox looked like pure magic once again, so the big question was: how does the back look like? Well, not bad as it turns out. There is a backpack, which he should have, but it looks clean for what it is rather than a mess of parts. You can see for yourself with these images from Takara. The side view of the rhino mode does look more messy with some robot bits peering from the bottom.

Listings from Japanese retailers at their discounted retail price, like $165 USD at Ami Ami are now up. We'll update when Amazon Japan has a similar price.

william-james88 wrote:At first, all Masterpiece Transformers figures look like magic. But then you see different angles and slowly you can see the compromises done to turn this into an actual physical figure. Well Rhinox looked like pure magic once again, so the big question was: how does the back look like? Well, not bad as it turns out. There is a backpack, which he should have, but it looks clean for what it is rather than a mess of parts. You can see for yourself with these images from Takara. The side view of the rhino mode does look more messy with some robot bits peering from the bottom.

Listings from Japanese retailers at their discounted retail price, like $165 USD at Ami Ami. We'll update when Amazon Japan has a similar price.

Thanks. Pre-Ordered. Release date set for June. Will save up some money starting on January.

I don't think the side view is that bad. Since everything is the same color it sort of blends together, it would be different if the bot parts were green or black.

Are the rhino eyes articulated? In the top image they're looking forward, but on the bottom they're looking to the side. Is it just a trick of the camera?



Emerje

The eyes are articulated

TAIL LIFTS! Now just need bean vines, sippy hat, and giant lumenscent energon fart cloud

Rhinox looks great!
Feels nice to see his cartoon head again, after the previous toys seemed to ignore it.
The enginering looks very solid.

Day 1374 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Amazon Japan listing, currently at $265 USD after shipping, doesn't appear to have been reduced yet: https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/produc ... RJN5&psc=1?tag=seibertron00-22&

Emerje

£209.99 - InDemand Toys

Transformers Takaratomy Masterpiece MP-59 Rhinox
Expected ship date Jul 1 – 7

NOTE: ID Toys now has free preorders.

So that's the RRP out of the way

Dang, he looks really good. They did a good job here.

That price though, ouch

Seibertron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".

Sounds like a great redeco option

I agree, especially since he gets a whole new Predacon color scheme with the silver instead of gold and I think a purplish tint to his skin color instead of brown (and perhaps some other color swaps???). A Predacon Rhinox redeco would be very welcomed!

Let's also be clear. Aside from the Dark Design redeco, Rhinox is a one and done mould. He had a Takara colour scheme variation*. But there were no other bots that came from him.



Rattrap, Terrorsaur and Scorponok have the most redeco variants of those remaining. Airazor and Tarantulas have none. Waspinator technically has Buzzsaw and Inferno has Antagony. I'd like to see all of the variants in the MP line. But it's hard to tell if Takara will extend the BW MP line that far.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".

Sounds like a great redeco option

I agree, especially since he gets a whole new Predacon color scheme with the silver instead of gold and I think a purplish tint to his skin color instead of brown (and perhaps some other color swaps???). A Predacon Rhinox redeco would be very welcomed!

Let's also be clear. Aside from the Dark Design redeco, Rhinox is a one and done mould. He had a Takara colour scheme variation*. But there were no other bots that came from him.

There's always the possibility of giving a new name to the Fox Kids repaint. It's not like the MP line doesn't already have a long history of taking obscure repaints and giving them new identities.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:There's always the possibility of giving a new name to the Fox Kids repaint. It's not like the MP line doesn't already have a long history of taking obscure repaints and giving them new identities.

Emerje

I'd be fine with that. I suppose that depends on how well Rhinox sells? Remember both Grimlock and T-Wrecks have not made it into the Beast Wars MP line so far.


I did forget this Rhinox had a Fox Kids redeco too. I guess that is three redeco possibilities for Rhinox.
One of them could be re-appropriated as this guy:


Happy Meal "Rhino"

While Masterpiece Rhinox is available for pre-order at plenty of online retailers, fans were waiting to see how low the price could get. Well Amazon Japan now has the figure at $160 USD, thanks to their customary discount on Transformers figures. That's the current conversion on the ¥24068 price you see when adding the figure to your cart. Of course, that price does not include shipping or any duty/custom fees.

For those unaware, orders from Japan for MP figures tend to ship sooner than their Hasbro counterparts. So that's another reason fans tend to choose Amazon Japan over western retailers. You'll let us know which option you go with.

Link: https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/aw/d/B ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron00-22&

They seem to be all gone now…

Agreed with the pricing noted here on Amazon Japan. They will charge customs automatically. Even with shipping included too the price is the cheapest.

Keep in mind that's at today's exchange rate. You get charged when the figure comes out for whatever the rate is at that time. That's been advantageous as heck using USD for years, but never know when that luck will turn.

Anyway so I have like a dozen POs there at the moment, not intending to discourage

Nemesis Maximo wrote:They seem to be all gone now…

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That's bizarre because when I click the same link, it shows as available for pre-order.

If you have placed an order before today, don't worry as Amazon Japan's site says for those who don't know:

Amazon.co.jp's price for not-yet-released items changes occasionally from the time an item is listed for sale to the time it's released and shipped. When you pre-order an item, the price we charge is the lowest price (tax inclusive) displayed on Amazon.co.jp from the time you place your order until the shipping process begins (or release date of the item, whichever comes earlier).

A pre-order price guarantee message appears on your Order Summary during the checkout process. If you use 1-Click ordering, pre-order price protection is applied automatically. The order summary in Your Account reflects the lowest price within 24-48 hours of the price change. The actual price that you're charged is stated in the shipment confirmation email.

Big reason why I always throw a pre-order at something I want from them as soon as it goes live.

ScottyP wrote:Keep in mind that's at today's exchange rate. You get charged when the figure comes out for whatever the rate is at that time. That's been advantageous as heck using USD for years, but never know when that luck will turn.

Anyway so I have like a dozen POs there at the moment, not intending to discourage

good point! Not deterred

Can an american confirm if Rhinox seems available to be ordered by you now?

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0CK9Z ... sform0c-22?tag=seibertron00-22&