First Look at Headmasters Reissues Wierdwolf, Skullcruncher and Highbrow
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The Forbidden Planet website has uploaded new images for their Retro Headmasters reissue listings. These are the second wave of the reissues coming to Walmart (and different exclusive retailers, depending the country). The wave consists of Highbrow, Wierdwolf and Skullcruncher. These are the Titans Returns molds with different decos and the heads found on the Takara versions. So there is something new to them aside from the fancy G1 styled boxes they come in. Hopefully the breakage issue on Wierdwolf is fixed though that is yet to be seen. Both the Hasbro and Takara releases had the same breakage issue.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 9th, 2020 @ 12:13pm CST
Posted by aronjlove on December 9th, 2020 @ 12:18pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Does Scullcruncher have a clear pilot cockpit door?
It definitely looks translucent. I wonder what material it is since TR Skullcruncher and Krok has a rubber door with Skullcruncher's being solid green and Krok's is translucent yellow.
Posted by Solipsist on December 9th, 2020 @ 12:23pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 9th, 2020 @ 12:29pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2020 @ 1:02pm CST
The Takara Legends version had the same rubbery plastic material used for its door as the Hasbro version, and was translucent too.aronjlove wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Does Scullcruncher have a clear pilot cockpit door?
It definitely looks translucent. I wonder what material it is since TR Skullcruncher and Krok has a rubber door with Skullcruncher's being solid green and Krok's is translucent yellow.
Posted by Solipsist on December 9th, 2020 @ 1:28pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 9th, 2020 @ 3:41pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 9th, 2020 @ 3:52pm CST
I wonder if that plastic could have been avoided by having blunter tooth tips. That's the whole reason the Weirdwolf and Skullcruncher molds use soft plastic in the first place, is the teeth.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 10th, 2020 @ 10:21am CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 10th, 2020 @ 10:33am CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 10th, 2020 @ 1:16pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 10th, 2020 @ 2:26pm CST
Hoping for a Jumpstarter 2-pack!
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 18th, 2021 @ 4:18pm CST
These toys were spotted at a Walmart in Michigan.
Thats not all folks, thanks to fellow Seibertron users, and toy reviewers, Lore Keeper and Soundwave8084, we have reviews for most of the wave!
We've embedded the reviews for your convenience:
Chromedome
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Hardhead
One thing to remember about these figures is that although they come in G1 style boxes, these are not reissues, but instead Titans Returns Deluxe figures with new decos.
What do you think of these figures, have you bought any already? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Posted by Quantum Surge on January 18th, 2021 @ 4:33pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 18th, 2021 @ 11:23pm CST
Quantum Surge wrote:I own Mindwipe since he was the only one that was available on the site. I know the original TR Mindwipe had PVC wing problems, but does the same apply for the Legends version and Convobat?
I have yet to see reports on his redecos/Japanese release breaking, but I'm chalking that up to people being more careful with those. Weirdwolf has the same type of issue with his cockpit window with both the TR and Legends release.
For the uninitiated: the cockpit window piece on TR Wolfwire/Weirdwolf, and the wingtips, head and back wings on TR Mindwipe are made of a soft rubbery plastic. The problem here is that soft plastic has a hard time moving around joints, putting a rough grip on where it attaches on the pins. Over time, the joints get so stiff it's easy to break the (weakened) hard plastic housing of those pins from the forces exerted in all directions.
The Weirdwolf one was known early om, but Mindwipe's stems FROM LAST YEAR.
Posted by SGMLordMirage on January 18th, 2021 @ 11:31pm CST
I do love the G1 package look.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 19th, 2021 @ 3:48pm CST
As before, this is not a reissue of the original Mindwipe Headmaster from the 1987 Generation 1 toyline. Instead this is a redeco'ed Titan's Returns version of the character. Featuring a deco different from the previous versions of the two past releases of this toy. Mindwipes Decepticon Headmaster allies will be released along with the Autobot Headmaster Highbrow.
We have embedded the review below for your convenience:
Will you be picking up this Decepticon? Or are you happy enough with one of this molds past releases? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 20th, 2021 @ 5:21pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Primal on January 23rd, 2021 @ 3:05pm CST
BUT.
This image has been floating around since sometime yesterday: And I am VERY curious to see what people here think about it. On one hand, these would be the first new figures in this line, the fact that they seem to have just grabbed an Arcee-colored Chromedome boxart off Deviantart is a bit sketch, and what mold would they even use for Armada Sideways. On the other, this feels veeery similar to the PotP leak (where they just used old images/art to display figures that weren't done yet), they've done new-mold exclusives in the past (PotP Punch/CP, SS Leadfoot, etc), and they did release two other UT references/updates semi-recently in Siege/Selects (and a third one was supposed to come with Sky Lynx before getting cut).
Thoughts? I honestly would love for this to be real just for Sideways alone.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 23rd, 2021 @ 3:36pm CST
Dunno what to think, but the Blurr retool Arcee is in the cards, if true. Maybe a Monsterbot retool for Fangry (maybe Grotusque) with Squeezeplay using Repugnus in the future. Sideways... Outside of a straight reissue of the Armada figure (what a disappointment that would be) I'm blank on that one.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 23rd, 2021 @ 7:28pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Primal on January 24th, 2021 @ 3:10am CST
Aw man, was it? I saw people speculating it was fake, but I haven't seen any of the trustworthy sources confirm that. I was really hoping for Sideways, dang it.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:that was already confirmed to be fake
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2021 @ 2:11pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:Aw man, was it? I saw people speculating it was fake, but I haven't seen any of the trustworthy sources confirm that. I was really hoping for Sideways, dang it.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:that was already confirmed to be fake
Kinda figured in all honesty: the code on top was off, but I was hoping it wasn't a Hasbro product code. The Retro Headmaster assortment code is F0930 if you must know.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 24th, 2021 @ 3:24pm CST
At least the bot made. The alt mode is fine, but isn’t anything impressive imo.
What I surprisingly like is the look of the tail attached to the forearm as a weapon.
I haven’t liked to look of the battlemaster or parts-forming shields for Siege/ER/Netflix.
But for me this really works & looks much more intentional than other similar gimmicks.
He’d probably need to be on sale for me to buy, but this guy definitely has my interest.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2021 @ 4:01pm CST
You sound like you've never seen the Titans Return toy before.Sowndwave76 wrote:I like the look of Skullcruncher...
At least the bot made. The alt mode is fine, but isn’t anything impressive imo.
What I surprisingly like is the look of the tail attached to the forearm as a weapon.
I haven’t liked to look of the battlemaster or parts-forming shields for Siege/ER/Netflix.
But for me this really works & looks much more intentional than other similar gimmicks.
He’d probably need to be on sale for me to buy, but this guy definitely has my interest.
And the G1 toy could hold the tail as a weapon too.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2021 @ 5:20pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:You sound like you've never seen the titans return toySowndwave76 wrote:I like the look of Skullcruncher...
At least the bot made. The alt mode is fine, but isn’t anything impressive imo.
What I surprisingly like is the look of the tail attached to the forearm as a weapon.
I haven’t liked to look of the battlemaster or parts-forming shields for Siege/ER/Netflix.
But for me this really works & looks much more intentional than other similar gimmicks.
He’d probably need to be on sale for me to buy, but this guy definitely has my interest.
What makes him sound that way?
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2021 @ 5:23pm CST
The bold parts. He's surprised by the tail's ability to be held by the toy in its robot mode and how nice it looks, as though he's never seen that before.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You sound like you've never seen the titans return toySowndwave76 wrote:I like the look of Skullcruncher...
At least the bot made. The alt mode is fine, but isn’t anything impressive imo.
What I surprisingly like is the look of the tail attached to the forearm as a weapon.
I haven’t liked to look of the battlemaster or parts-forming shields for Siege/ER/Netflix.
But for me this really works & looks much more intentional than other similar gimmicks.
He’d probably need to be on sale for me to buy, but this guy definitely has my interest.
What makes him sound that way?
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2021 @ 9:01pm CST
Looks like this next slide from the same source confirms that it's bogus:Nemesis Primal wrote:So I haven't been on this thread for a few pages, because the only figure in both waves so far that maybe interests me is Mindwipe, and even then, I'm not going to go out of my way to look for him.
BUT.
This image has been floating around since sometime yesterday:
And I am VERY curious to see what people here think about it.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2021 @ 11:24pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:The bold parts. He's surprised by the tail's ability to be held by the toy in its robot mode and how nice it looks, as though he's never seen that before.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You sound like you've never seen the titans return toySowndwave76 wrote:I like the look of Skullcruncher...
At least the bot made. The alt mode is fine, but isn’t anything impressive imo.
What I surprisingly like is the look of the tail attached to the forearm as a weapon.
I haven’t liked to look of the battlemaster or parts-forming shields for Siege/ER/Netflix.
But for me this really works & looks much more intentional than other similar gimmicks.
He’d probably need to be on sale for me to buy, but this guy definitely has my interest.
What makes him sound that way?
It's not how I read it. It could just as easily be an observation they had on the toy and still like at the moment. Like how I speak of older toys in present tense when writing my top 5 lists. Just to say, we shouldn't be so quick to be dismissive of people's comments. Their comment added to the discussion, giving their opinion of a toy, while yours did not.
Posted by Tuned Agent on January 25th, 2021 @ 12:46pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Looks like this next slide from the same source confirms that it's bogus:Nemesis Primal wrote:So I haven't been on this thread for a few pages, because the only figure in both waves so far that maybe interests me is Mindwipe, and even then, I'm not going to go out of my way to look for him.
BUT.
This image has been floating around since sometime yesterday:
And I am VERY curious to see what people here think about it.
As someone who'd love a titan master-compatible Animated Headmaster, I felt that "sorry" for wave 6.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 28th, 2021 @ 9:59pm CST
He was one of many that I passed on. In fact, I didn't buy anything from that line except the Terrorcons.
But seeing him again recently I noticed more how the tail as a weapon works well in terms of the look. Better than I remember, even though before I never looked very closely.
The G1 version looks exactly how I don't want those types of gimmicks to look.
Reminds me of how much I appreciate that the Dinobots had sword weapons rather than a gimmick where their chunky, stubby tails were removed and used as "swords".
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 28th, 2021 @ 10:04pm CST
Sowndwave76 wrote:I had definitely seen the TR version of Skullcruncher...
He was one of many that I passed on. In fact, I didn't buy anything from that line except the Terrorcons.
But seeing him again recently I noticed more how the tail as a weapon works well in terms of the look. Better than I remember, even though before I never looked very closely.
The G1 version looks exactly how I don't want those types of gimmicks to look.
Reminds me of how much I appreciate that the Dinobots had sword weapons rather than a gimmick where their chunky, stubby tails were removed and used as "swords".
I hear you on the "tails for weapons" bit. I pulled out Classics Grimlock the other day (He's keeping PCC Grimstone company) and really dislike that on him. O well.
My Walmarts are done with their resets, and one even had a Hardhead on the shelf. Later, Chromedome first. Though... dunno if I'm dodging bullets out with the Decepticon ones, or missing out.
Posted by Changewinds on January 29th, 2021 @ 1:46pm CST
Sowndwave76 wrote:I had definitely seen the TR version of Skullcruncher...
He was one of many that I passed on. In fact, I didn't buy anything from that line except the Terrorcons.
But seeing him again recently I noticed more how the tail as a weapon works well in terms of the look. Better than I remember, even though before I never looked very closely.
The G1 version looks exactly how I don't want those types of gimmicks to look.
Reminds me of how much I appreciate that the Dinobots had sword weapons rather than a gimmick where their chunky, stubby tails were removed and used as "swords".
I do wonder if they fixed the loose hips on this new version. I did like the look of the bot and alt mode, but the loose hips were a dealbreaker since Skullcruncher and his recolor Gatorface both couldn’t stand very well on their own.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 29th, 2021 @ 2:25pm CST
I found Krok to be at least passable on his own. Skullcruncher was loose AF and no mistake, but the old "clear polish on the ball part of the joint" trick fixed him right up.
The "tails for weapons" thing can work. Take a look at Weirdwolf and Cybertron Snarl, for example - now there's some successful use of tails as swords. And Cybertron Scourge gave us a lovely use of a tail as an axe.
Skullcruncher's tail works better if you think of it as a lance IMO. Or maybe a club. Trying to pass it as a sword... yeah no.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 29th, 2021 @ 2:33pm CST
I'm curious to see if they did anything about the hinge on Wolfwire myself. I have all 7 from TR already, so he is the only one I might be interested if they fixed things.
Posted by william-james88 on January 29th, 2021 @ 2:39pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Gatorface was the name of the redeco's head. The redeco was named Krok.
I found Krok to be at least passable on his own. Skullcruncher was loose AF and no mistake, but the old "clear polish on the ball part of the joint" trick fixed him right up.
The "tails for weapons" thing can work. Take a look at Weirdwolf and Cybertron Snarl, for example - now there's some successful use of tails as swords. And Cybertron Scourge gave us a lovely use of a tail as an axe.
Skullcruncher's tail works better if you think of it as a lance IMO. Or maybe a club. Trying to pass it as a sword... yeah no.
Best tail sword ever though goes to the Tigerzord from MMPR.
Cybertron Scourge is pretty awesome too though.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 30th, 2021 @ 12:17am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Gatorface was the name of the redeco's head. The redeco was named Krok.
I found Krok to be at least passable on his own. Skullcruncher was loose AF and no mistake, but the old "clear polish on the ball part of the joint" trick fixed him right up.
The "tails for weapons" thing can work. Take a look at Weirdwolf and Cybertron Snarl, for example - now there's some successful use of tails as swords. And Cybertron Scourge gave us a lovely use of a tail as an axe.
Skullcruncher's tail works better if you think of it as a lance IMO. Or maybe a club. Trying to pass it as a sword... yeah no.
Cybertron Snarl, that was some tail.
Posted by Overcracker on January 30th, 2021 @ 11:37am CST
william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Gatorface was the name of the redeco's head. The redeco was named Krok.
I found Krok to be at least passable on his own. Skullcruncher was loose AF and no mistake, but the old "clear polish on the ball part of the joint" trick fixed him right up.
The "tails for weapons" thing can work. Take a look at Weirdwolf and Cybertron Snarl, for example - now there's some successful use of tails as swords. And Cybertron Scourge gave us a lovely use of a tail as an axe.
Skullcruncher's tail works better if you think of it as a lance IMO. Or maybe a club. Trying to pass it as a sword... yeah no.
Best tail sword ever though goes to the Tigerzord from MMPR.
Cybertron Scourge is pretty awesome too though.
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Posted by aronjlove on January 31st, 2021 @ 11:36am CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 31st, 2021 @ 12:16pm CST
aronjlove wrote:I still haven't seen these figures in store, but I noticed one of my Walmarts has a shelf tag for them.
They should be due any day then. I don't know how far along anyone else's is, but my two local Walmarts have finished the reset of the toy aisles, that is when they should show up.
Posted by aronjlove on January 31st, 2021 @ 12:21pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:aronjlove wrote:I still haven't seen these figures in store, but I noticed one of my Walmarts has a shelf tag for them.
They should be due any day then. I don't know how far along anyone else's is, but my two local Walmarts have finished the reset of the toy aisles, that is when they should show up.
Good to know because the Walmart I found this tag at had practically a ghost town for the toy section outside of Halo and Bakugan for some reason.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 31st, 2021 @ 12:26pm CST
aronjlove wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:aronjlove wrote:I still haven't seen these figures in store, but I noticed one of my Walmarts has a shelf tag for them.
They should be due any day then. I don't know how far along anyone else's is, but my two local Walmarts have finished the reset of the toy aisles, that is when they should show up.
Good to know because the Walmart I found this tag at had practically a ghost town for the toy section outside of Halo and Bakugan for some reason.
Mine was too, all part of the procedure: empty shelves and relocate stock, rearrange according to the plans posted, then restock. Don't expect everything at once though.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 31st, 2021 @ 3:19pm CST
And I never said the newer Skullcruncher's tail was meant to be a sword... Agreed, that's not what was intended.
Again, I just think it visually works. I think mainly because it's proportioned well with his arm and the overall size of the figure itself.
Being that I don't have a single Headmaster figure, I will be very tempted to get him if I ever see him.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 2nd, 2021 @ 3:42pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on February 2nd, 2021 @ 7:22pm CST
Although he has no personal attachment to the original toys, he was instantly excited when he saw the packaging, I apparently forgot to tell him these were coming out . Should have seen his look when I told them they were just TR/Legends repackaged.
I mean it is nice if you missed out back in 2016, or are big fans of the Headmasters enough to get the slightly different decos. While the retro packaging is cool, it's just a wee bit disingenuous IMHO.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on February 2nd, 2021 @ 7:28pm CST
Posted by Emerje on February 2nd, 2021 @ 9:27pm CST
o.supreme wrote:While the retro packaging is cool, it's just a wee bit disingenuous IMHO.
No more so than the Masters of the Universe Retro line, or the G.I.Joe stuff, or Mattel making retro WWE figures based on Hasbro's WWF line. Vintage packing on modern figures is a trend right now.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:At minimum it needed new art that actually matches the toys.
They certainly went minimum by changing the heads on all the vintage art.
Emerje
Posted by o.supreme on February 3rd, 2021 @ 11:47am CST
Emerje wrote:No more so than the Masters of the Universe Retro line, or the G.I.Joe stuff, or Mattel making retro WWE figures based on Hasbro's WWF line. Vintage packing on modern figures is a trend right now.
There's no doubt it's trendy right now, but unlike the Retro style Headmaster Packaging, the new MOTU stuff goes out of the way to tell you it's "New for 20", and that it is based on the original with modern engineering. The TFs don't indicate any of that.
Besides, the MOTU are basically exactly that, the ARE the original toys, but with modern articulation. I don't even think Hasbro could pull it off, but if they did take the original 1987 headmaster molds, and "update them" with modern engineering, I'd be more inclined to agree, as opposed to just being the TR/Legends toys packaged in retro packaging.
What Hasbro is doing is more akin to if Mattel put the 2002 MOTU line in retro packaging, which they are obviously not.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 4th, 2021 @ 4:11pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Emerje wrote:No more so than the Masters of the Universe Retro line, or the G.I.Joe stuff, or Mattel making retro WWE figures based on Hasbro's WWF line. Vintage packing on modern figures is a trend right now.
There's no doubt it's trendy right now, but unlike the Retro style Headmaster Packaging, the new MOTU stuff goes out of the way to tell you it's "New for 20", and that it is based on the original with modern engineering. The TFs don't indicate any of that.
Besides, the MOTU are basically exactly that, the ARE the original toys, but with modern articulation. I don't even think Hasbro could pull it off, but if they did take the original 1987 headmaster molds, and "update them" with modern engineering, I'd be more inclined to agree, as opposed to just being the TR/Legends toys packaged in retro packaging.
What Hasbro is doing is more akin to if Mattel put the 2002 MOTU line in retro packaging, which they are obviously not.
I think if Hasbro was able to pull off adding knees, elbows, and hips to the original G1 figures that need it; they'd probably sell for $100 a pop.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 9th, 2021 @ 10:53pm CST