First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details
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Jtprime17 has given an update on the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Studio Series 86-24 Ironhide and 86-20 Prowl. Along with our first look at Ironhide we see that these figures do indeed come with blast effect parts. The box doesn't really mention the characters' demise and shows the characters in action poses, but we all know what this represents. As we've seen with other Buzzworthy SS86 figures Ironhide will also be trading in the clear blue windows for painted ones as well as massive chest windshield damage. The price is reported to be MSRP: $55.98 and DCPI: 087-26-0165, a great price for a Deluxe and a Voyager. Another big thanks to Sowndwave76 for letting us know!
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Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163305)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 12th, 2023 @ 9:12pm CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 12th, 2023 @ 9:12pm CDT
Why didn't they paint the rest of Ironhide's window? Did the paint budget run out midway through? I guess a Ratchet and Brawn set is next. Maybe a Megatron? But it's in the Buzzworthy line so maybe it's a scrapped idea for a "death" subline.
I do like that chest damage molding on Ironhide.
I do like that chest damage molding on Ironhide.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163309)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 12th, 2023 @ 9:48pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 12th, 2023 @ 9:48pm CDT
Oh so this version get the stipe. lol
If the damaged sections were swap out panels I'd be more inclined to consider purchasing it, but being they're in permanent damage mode I'll have to pass. Now the wait for Hound to see how disappointing that turns one out as well.
If the damaged sections were swap out panels I'd be more inclined to consider purchasing it, but being they're in permanent damage mode I'll have to pass. Now the wait for Hound to see how disappointing that turns one out as well.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163312)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 12th, 2023 @ 10:22pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 12th, 2023 @ 10:22pm CDT
I wonder why this Ironhide has the stripe and the actual SS86 figure doesn't.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163314)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 12th, 2023 @ 10:52pm CDT
Imo it's Hastak throwing in something that they hope people will find appealing enough to bite.
I don't want any TF figure(s) to flop, but I hope this is it for the "dead"-themed figures...
Ratchet and Brawn could be next, but damn, please no.
I had the same thought with damaged parts that could be completely removed...
Especially with a more screen-accurate Prowl, that could have been enough for me to get this set.
Like I said before, a SS86 Buzzworthy 2-pack was a perfect opportunity to get Sunstreaker and Hound released. The inner packaging backdrop could've been the back of the shuttle with the ramp deployed...
And with it being "ER" Hound's first (and possibly only) release, I would've been okay if Sunstreaker was literally just the ER version.
This was a missed opportunity on a few accounts.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 12th, 2023 @ 10:52pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder why this Ironhide has the stripe and the actual SS86 figure doesn't.
Imo it's Hastak throwing in something that they hope people will find appealing enough to bite.
I don't want any TF figure(s) to flop, but I hope this is it for the "dead"-themed figures...
Ratchet and Brawn could be next, but damn, please no.
Till-all-R1 wrote:Oh so this version get the stipe. lol
If the damaged sections were swap out panels I'd be more inclined to consider purchasing it, but being they're in permanent damage mode I'll have to pass. Now the wait for Hound to see how disappointing that turns one out as well.
I had the same thought with damaged parts that could be completely removed...
Especially with a more screen-accurate Prowl, that could have been enough for me to get this set.
Like I said before, a SS86 Buzzworthy 2-pack was a perfect opportunity to get Sunstreaker and Hound released. The inner packaging backdrop could've been the back of the shuttle with the ramp deployed...
And with it being "ER" Hound's first (and possibly only) release, I would've been okay if Sunstreaker was literally just the ER version.
This was a missed opportunity on a few accounts.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163318)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on June 12th, 2023 @ 11:43pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on June 12th, 2023 @ 11:43pm CDT
We got dead Ironhide before we got Ratchet
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163322)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:52am CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:52am CDT
Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163328)
Posted by Squawk'n'talk on June 13th, 2023 @ 6:08am CDT
Posted by Squawk'n'talk on June 13th, 2023 @ 6:08am CDT
Such heroic nonsense.
I love it.
I love it.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163331)
Posted by sol magnus on June 13th, 2023 @ 7:05am CDT
Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.
Posted by sol magnus on June 13th, 2023 @ 7:05am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.
Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163334)
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 13th, 2023 @ 7:27am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 13th, 2023 @ 7:27am CDT
Might be my first Ironhide at least it has the stripes, not keen on the windows for prowl. Just makes the figure look cheap but it's doubtful they will do dead versions again.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163335)
Posted by sol magnus on June 13th, 2023 @ 7:29am CDT
He didn't die in car mode.
But not to simply be flip, the color of the glass is exactly how it was in the movie.
Posted by sol magnus on June 13th, 2023 @ 7:29am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Might be my first Ironhide at least it has the stripes, not keen on the windows for prowl. Just makes the figure look cheap but it's doubtful they will do dead versions again.
He didn't die in car mode.
But not to simply be flip, the color of the glass is exactly how it was in the movie.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163337)
Posted by Cheetron on June 13th, 2023 @ 9:28am CDT
Posted by Cheetron on June 13th, 2023 @ 9:28am CDT
I don't know why but I want this set! Zombie transformers. One so close to the end that I could use Unicron or one of his minions to resurrect
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163340)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 13th, 2023 @ 9:43am CDT
Ironhide should be missing a head (at least) and have one "pleading" hand, not two fists. As mentioned before, Prowl needs effects parts and/or ports for his eyes and mouth...
I was joking with a friend, as to who would come next in this "dead" line. Wouldn't it be funny if this line marked the debut of Windcharger?
Who hasn't had a new figure since 2018.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 13th, 2023 @ 9:43am CDT
Ironhide should be missing a head (at least) and have one "pleading" hand, not two fists. As mentioned before, Prowl needs effects parts and/or ports for his eyes and mouth...
I was joking with a friend, as to who would come next in this "dead" line. Wouldn't it be funny if this line marked the debut of Windcharger?
Who hasn't had a new figure since 2018.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163343)
Posted by DeathReviews on June 13th, 2023 @ 10:14am CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on June 13th, 2023 @ 10:14am CDT
I admit, getting rid of the clear plastic has some allure to it. That clear stuff is notoriously brittle and I've seen many horror stories about the Prowl mold especially, with critical parts that break and snap major sections off just while transforming.
The combination of using weak plastic on critical transformation parts that require a lot of pressure and leverage when transforming was a horrible idea from an engineering perspective. Sure, let's make the support towers for this suspension bridge out of balsa wood and graham cracker, that sounds smart.
If they use more robust plastic for this Ironhide/Prowl, then the 'dead' versions could wind up being tougher and more long-wearing than the 'live' versions.
And how come only Optimus Prime's figure got the grey paint 'dead' makeover? If all cybertronians turn grey when they 'die', shouldn't all the dead figures get that color scheme? This kind of reaping detail is important to me, if nobody else...
.
The combination of using weak plastic on critical transformation parts that require a lot of pressure and leverage when transforming was a horrible idea from an engineering perspective. Sure, let's make the support towers for this suspension bridge out of balsa wood and graham cracker, that sounds smart.
If they use more robust plastic for this Ironhide/Prowl, then the 'dead' versions could wind up being tougher and more long-wearing than the 'live' versions.
And how come only Optimus Prime's figure got the grey paint 'dead' makeover? If all cybertronians turn grey when they 'die', shouldn't all the dead figures get that color scheme? This kind of reaping detail is important to me, if nobody else...
.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163347)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 13th, 2023 @ 11:12am CDT
And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 13th, 2023 @ 11:12am CDT
No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?sol magnus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.
Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.
And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163349)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 13th, 2023 @ 11:34am CDT
Possibly in the RED line IE no altmodes needed...
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 13th, 2023 @ 11:34am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.
Possibly in the RED line IE no altmodes needed...
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163351)
Posted by sol magnus on June 13th, 2023 @ 12:12pm CDT
The assumption on my part was that he meant the packaging. LOL
Posted by sol magnus on June 13th, 2023 @ 12:12pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?sol magnus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.
Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.
And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.
The assumption on my part was that he meant the packaging. LOL
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163353)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 13th, 2023 @ 12:19pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 13th, 2023 @ 12:19pm CDT
I was just being snarky. I did think you were referring to Kup and Cliffy's windshields at 1st, since they were painted in their BB versions.sol magnus wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?sol magnus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.
Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.
And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.
The assumption on my part was that he meant the packaging. LOL
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163358)
Posted by Hero Alpha on June 13th, 2023 @ 12:58pm CDT
Posted by Hero Alpha on June 13th, 2023 @ 12:58pm CDT
I'm glad this is out there for the people that want it, but I dont need it. But I thought for a second about getting it just to switch my previous 2 pack Prowl's legs for these. Also I so really hope this is a new trend of no clear type plastic and having painted on windows. I would love to have those blast effects though.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163360)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:07pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:07pm CDT
I'm having a bit of a memory haze regarding this feature and what line it was actually in, but I thought it was Transformers back in the day that featured battle damage by having a part/piece that flips/rolls back and forth. Maybe if they couldn't have swap out battle damage parts as it appears the whole from section would be too complicated for a consumer to do it, that they should have done what I'm talking about?
I get that these slight retools are fairly cheap and easy for Hasbro versus trying to create something all new, my question is are there really that many people who will buy anything and everything Transformers no matter the "version"? Personally I'm not into scene specific figures of any kind because it's severely limiting and I just don't have the space to dedicate to a "dead Bot shelf".
Add on top of this release is the fact that there are still a lot of people who still want regular Prowl from the Amazon 2pk, so my other question is how likely is that reissue now that they went with this version?
I get that these slight retools are fairly cheap and easy for Hasbro versus trying to create something all new, my question is are there really that many people who will buy anything and everything Transformers no matter the "version"? Personally I'm not into scene specific figures of any kind because it's severely limiting and I just don't have the space to dedicate to a "dead Bot shelf".
Add on top of this release is the fact that there are still a lot of people who still want regular Prowl from the Amazon 2pk, so my other question is how likely is that reissue now that they went with this version?
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163363)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:13pm CDT
There are always more toys of the main G1 cast. Does this release make an Earthrise reissue less likely? Possibly. Will this be the last time we get a G1 Prowl for the next five years? For the next three? Almost certainly not. I know it sucks to not get a release marred by bad distribution, but on a long enough timeline--usually a handful of years rather than a decade--there's always going to be another figure.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:13pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm having a bit of a memory haze regarding this feature and what line it was actually in, but I thought it was Transformers back in the day that featured battle damage by having a part/piece that flips/rolls back and forth. Maybe if they couldn't have swap out battle damage parts as it appears the whole from section would be too complicated for a consumer to do it, that they should have done what I'm talking about?
I get that these slight retools are fairly cheap and easy for Hasbro versus trying to create something all new, my question is are there really that many people who will buy anything and everything Transformers no matter the "version"? Personally I'm not into scene specific figures of any kind because it's severely limiting and I just don't have the space to dedicate to a "dead Bot shelf".
Add on top of this release is the fact that there are still a lot of people who still want regular Prowl from the Amazon 2pk, so my other question is how likely is that reissue now that they went with this version?
There are always more toys of the main G1 cast. Does this release make an Earthrise reissue less likely? Possibly. Will this be the last time we get a G1 Prowl for the next five years? For the next three? Almost certainly not. I know it sucks to not get a release marred by bad distribution, but on a long enough timeline--usually a handful of years rather than a decade--there's always going to be another figure.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163364)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:14pm CDT
Good point about switching the legs…
I hadn’t even thought about that.
I also wouldn’t mind having those blast effects, although I’d use them for other figures.
And, from what I can see in the photos on Pulse, it looks like the clear plastic parts have been replaced with solid plastic…. Obvsly not sure, but that’s how it looks to me.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:14pm CDT
Hero Alpha wrote:I'm glad this is out there for the people that want it, but I dont need it. But I thought for a second about getting it just to switch my previous 2 pack Prowl's legs for these. Also I so really hope this is a new trend of no clear type plastic and having painted on windows. I would love to have those blast effects though.
Good point about switching the legs…
I hadn’t even thought about that.
I also wouldn’t mind having those blast effects, although I’d use them for other figures.
And, from what I can see in the photos on Pulse, it looks like the clear plastic parts have been replaced with solid plastic…. Obvsly not sure, but that’s how it looks to me.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163366)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:22pm CDT
Bringing up the switching of legs I was wondering how difficult it would be to totally switch out the from panel with the previous version, that way I'd have a normal Ironhide but now with the stripe.
Trouble I have zero experience modding TF's
Trouble I have zero experience modding TF's
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163368)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:30pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:30pm CDT
Sadly, it looks like all the parts that have the yellow stripe on them are either part of the figure's main body or are connected to it via pins.Till-all-R1 wrote:Bringing up the switching of legs I was wondering how difficult it would be to totally switch out the from panel with the previous version, that way I'd have a normal Ironhide but now with the stripe.
Trouble I have zero experience modding TF's
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163370)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:34pm CDT
Had the same thought, and I have zero experience customizing figures as well, but other than messing with those tiny pins (if necessary), I don’t think it would overly difficult.
And I’m not at all sold on this, but if it’s confirmed that all previous clear parts are now solid…
I would definitely start considering, especially with switching parts.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:34pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:Bringing up the switching of legs I was wondering how difficult it would be to totally switch out the from panel with the previous version, that way I'd have a normal Ironhide but now with the stripe.
Trouble I have zero experience modding TF's
Had the same thought, and I have zero experience customizing figures as well, but other than messing with those tiny pins (if necessary), I don’t think it would overly difficult.
And I’m not at all sold on this, but if it’s confirmed that all previous clear parts are now solid…
I would definitely start considering, especially with switching parts.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163374)
Posted by Rtron on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:59pm CDT
Posted by Rtron on June 13th, 2023 @ 1:59pm CDT
It'd be easier to just paint that yellow stripe on the regular figure than swapping all those parts.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163388)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:00pm CDT
Why not just Reprolabels?
https://toyhax.com/for-studio-series-86 ... nhide.html
Once it's back in stock, of course.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:00pm CDT
Rtron wrote:It'd be easier to just paint that yellow stripe on the regular figure than swapping all those parts.
Why not just Reprolabels?
https://toyhax.com/for-studio-series-86 ... nhide.html
Once it's back in stock, of course.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163389)
Posted by Rtron on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:03pm CDT
That's another great solution if you don't mind stickers, yeah. I usually share in the frustration when it comes to missing paint apps, and the stripes SHOULD have been there in the first place, but fortunately this issue is really easy to solve.
Posted by Rtron on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:03pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Rtron wrote:It'd be easier to just paint that yellow stripe on the regular figure than swapping all those parts.
Why not just Reprolabels?
https://toyhax.com/for-studio-series-86 ... nhide.html
Once it's back in stock, of course.
That's another great solution if you don't mind stickers, yeah. I usually share in the frustration when it comes to missing paint apps, and the stripes SHOULD have been there in the first place, but fortunately this issue is really easy to solve.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163391)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:17pm CDT
You're probably thinking of the Color Changers, Aquaspeeders or Stormtroopers, which have "battle damage" by spraying them with warm water. Either those, or the Jurassic Park dinos with either removable skin or flipflop panels.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:17pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm having a bit of a memory haze regarding this feature and what line it was actually in, but I thought it was Transformers back in the day that featured battle damage by having a part/piece that flips/rolls back and forth.
You're probably thinking of the Color Changers, Aquaspeeders or Stormtroopers, which have "battle damage" by spraying them with warm water. Either those, or the Jurassic Park dinos with either removable skin or flipflop panels.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:22pm CDT
The battle armor He-Man and Skeletor are unbeatable for such a feature.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:22pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm having a bit of a memory haze regarding this feature and what line it was actually in, but I thought it was Transformers back in the day that featured battle damage by having a part/piece that flips/rolls back and forth.
You're probably thinking of the Color Changers, Aquaspeeders or Stormtroopers, which have "battle damage" by spraying them with warm water. Either those, or the Jurassic Park dinos with either removable skin or flipflop panels.
The battle armor He-Man and Skeletor are unbeatable for such a feature.
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Posted by Overcracker on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:38pm CDT
Don’t remember Transformers ever doing that, however, Hot Wheels did have a line of crash damage cars called Crack-Ups. I had a couple of those as a kid. It was a spring loaded panel that would rotate when enough force was applied to disengage the soft rubbery section that held it in place.
Posted by Overcracker on June 13th, 2023 @ 5:38pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm having a bit of a memory haze regarding this feature and what line it was actually in, but I thought it was Transformers back in the day that featured battle damage by having a part/piece that flips/rolls back and forth.
Don’t remember Transformers ever doing that, however, Hot Wheels did have a line of crash damage cars called Crack-Ups. I had a couple of those as a kid. It was a spring loaded panel that would rotate when enough force was applied to disengage the soft rubbery section that held it in place.
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Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 13th, 2023 @ 6:16pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 13th, 2023 @ 6:16pm CDT
Okay, that's it! lol
Thanks, it was really starting to get to me trying to think about where I had seen it used.
Thanks, it was really starting to get to me trying to think about where I had seen it used.
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Posted by AcademyofDrX on June 13th, 2023 @ 9:12pm CDT
I loved these things and I haven't thought about them in almost forty years. Thanks for the post.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on June 13th, 2023 @ 9:12pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm having a bit of a memory haze regarding this feature and what line it was actually in, but I thought it was Transformers back in the day that featured battle damage by having a part/piece that flips/rolls back and forth.
Don’t remember Transformers ever doing that, however, Hot Wheels did have a line of crash damage cars called Crack-Ups. I had a couple of those as a kid. It was a spring loaded panel that would rotate when enough force was applied to disengage the soft rubbery section that held it in place.
I loved these things and I haven't thought about them in almost forty years. Thanks for the post.
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Posted by Gearslide on June 13th, 2023 @ 10:03pm CDT
Posted by Gearslide on June 13th, 2023 @ 10:03pm CDT
You know, I wouldn't hate this exact set re-releaed in Shattered Glass colors.
I know they aren't known for having that damage, but SG Ironhide and Prowl having damaged windshields/hoods would actually match SG Optimus nicely.
I know they aren't known for having that damage, but SG Ironhide and Prowl having damaged windshields/hoods would actually match SG Optimus nicely.
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Posted by WiseMan on June 13th, 2023 @ 11:52pm CDT
Posted by WiseMan on June 13th, 2023 @ 11:52pm CDT
I'm not sure why they chose Ironhide. There's a split second scene where his chest looks kind of like the toy's before he grabs Megatron's leg, but it can't actually be his chest because if it were he would have had to flip over before reaching for it.
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Posted by Emerje on June 14th, 2023 @ 12:52am CDT
Probably because it's a new mold and they could incorporate the damage into the mold in advance rather than make new parts molds like with Prowl.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on June 14th, 2023 @ 12:52am CDT
WiseMan wrote:I'm not sure why they chose Ironhide. There's a split second scene where his chest looks kind of like the toy's before he grabs Megatron's leg, but it can't actually be his chest because if it were he would have had to flip over before reaching for it.
Probably because it's a new mold and they could incorporate the damage into the mold in advance rather than make new parts molds like with Prowl.
Emerje
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 14th, 2023 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 14th, 2023 @ 1:42pm CDT
aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha
I just love everything about this set. and the potential commentary behind it.
I have preordered the set. I didn't get Prowl (Siege was better), and I sold my Ironhide (it Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked), but for damaged versions with dying effects, I'll do it. Plus the price is pretty decent.
I will now hold off on Ratchet and Brawn until their 2-pack comes out next year to complete the shuttle scene. Not that I was going to get Brawn anyways, and I am still unsure on Ratchet.
I just love everything about this set. and the potential commentary behind it.
I have preordered the set. I didn't get Prowl (Siege was better), and I sold my Ironhide (it Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked), but for damaged versions with dying effects, I'll do it. Plus the price is pretty decent.
I will now hold off on Ratchet and Brawn until their 2-pack comes out next year to complete the shuttle scene. Not that I was going to get Brawn anyways, and I am still unsure on Ratchet.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163450)
Posted by WiseMan on June 14th, 2023 @ 2:36pm CDT
But . . . but . . . Brawn's not dead . . .
Posted by WiseMan on June 14th, 2023 @ 2:36pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I will now hold off on Ratchet and Brawn until their 2-pack comes out next year to complete the shuttle scene. Not that I was going to get Brawn anyways, and I am still unsure on Ratchet.
But . . . but . . . Brawn's not dead . . .
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163451)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 14th, 2023 @ 2:44pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 14th, 2023 @ 2:44pm CDT
WiseMan wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I will now hold off on Ratchet and Brawn until their 2-pack comes out next year to complete the shuttle scene. Not that I was going to get Brawn anyways, and I am still unsure on Ratchet.
But . . . but . . . Brawn's not dead . . .
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163479)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 14th, 2023 @ 9:08pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 14th, 2023 @ 9:08pm CDT
Neither is Windcharger or Wheeljack. They're just sleeping.WiseMan wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I will now hold off on Ratchet and Brawn until their 2-pack comes out next year to complete the shuttle scene. Not that I was going to get Brawn anyways, and I am still unsure on Ratchet.
But . . . but . . . Brawn's not dead . . .
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163513)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 15th, 2023 @ 10:35am CDT
Those fatal shoulder shots, eh?
^Now that, much like Ultra Magnus storyboard death, I would have preferred to see!
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 15th, 2023 @ 10:35am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:WiseMan wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I will now hold off on Ratchet and Brawn until their 2-pack comes out next year to complete the shuttle scene. Not that I was going to get Brawn anyways, and I am still unsure on Ratchet.
But . . . but . . . Brawn's not dead . . .
Those fatal shoulder shots, eh?
TFWiki wrote:The initial scripts and storyboards for the movie were much clearer on the matter; both the earliest available draft (dated to April 27, 1985) and the "finalized" version describe him as being cut in half by a blast of Megatron's fusion cannon.
^Now that, much like Ultra Magnus storyboard death, I would have preferred to see!
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163524)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 15th, 2023 @ 12:30pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 15th, 2023 @ 12:30pm CDT
Dead guys are not for me, cool to see it comes with blast effects though.
Same reason it's like that on the ER and Masterpiece figures: accuracy.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Why didn't they paint the rest of Ironhide's window? Did the paint budget run out midway through?
Till-all-R1 wrote:Oh so this version get the stipe. lol
Considering basically all the paint on the first SS86 Ironhide is being used to paint giant chunks of clear plastic red, I'm assuming the fact that his figure has zero clear plastic to paint freed things up a bit.Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder why this Ironhide has the stripe and the actual SS86 figure doesn't.
Are you referring to BW Guiledart and his play-dead mode?Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm having a bit of a memory haze regarding this feature and what line it was actually in, but I thought it was Transformers back in the day that featured battle damage by having a part/piece that flips/rolls back and forth.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163543)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 15th, 2023 @ 6:40pm CDT
Now that would have been awesome to see.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 15th, 2023 @ 6:40pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote::BOT:TFWiki wrote:The initial scripts and storyboards for the movie were much clearer on the matter; both the earliest available draft (dated to April 27, 1985) and the "finalized" version describe him as being cut in half by a blast of Megatron's fusion cannon.
^Now that, much like Ultra Magnus storyboard death, I would have preferred to see!
Now that would have been awesome to see.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163565)
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 15th, 2023 @ 8:33pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 15th, 2023 @ 8:33pm CDT
If springers more accurate then I'll happily ditch the voyager. Wasn't accurate or a fun toy with me even preferring the idw toy. It could just be a repaint with an ammunition loader thingy that is used to shoot devy.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163654)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 17th, 2023 @ 4:29pm CDT
Same. And I’ll be really surprised if he’s not more accurate.
Overall, Hastak has done a pretty good job with the figures in this subline…
I was a bit letdown by Brawn, but that seems like a rare exception.
Could I see this being a bit of a stretch for Leader class?
Sure.
But I’m betting it goes well beyond a regular Voyager class release.
I also wouldn’t doubt if this new version is as tall as Wreck-gar.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 17th, 2023 @ 4:29pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:If springers more accurate then I'll happily ditch the voyager.
Same. And I’ll be really surprised if he’s not more accurate.
Overall, Hastak has done a pretty good job with the figures in this subline…
I was a bit letdown by Brawn, but that seems like a rare exception.
Could I see this being a bit of a stretch for Leader class?
Sure.
But I’m betting it goes well beyond a regular Voyager class release.
I also wouldn’t doubt if this new version is as tall as Wreck-gar.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163669)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 18th, 2023 @ 3:15am CDT
I like Brawn's transformation and alt mode
I'll stick with my bee movie Brawn though
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 18th, 2023 @ 3:15am CDT
I like Brawn's transformation and alt mode
I'll stick with my bee movie Brawn though
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163676)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 18th, 2023 @ 10:54am CDT
i think Prime Wars got Brawn perfect, so I am more than happy to stick with him
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 18th, 2023 @ 10:54am CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:
I like Brawn's transformation and alt mode
I'll stick with my bee movie Brawn though
i think Prime Wars got Brawn perfect, so I am more than happy to stick with him
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163688)
Posted by sol magnus on June 18th, 2023 @ 11:24am CDT
He's too small for me. I'm upgrading. Scale FTW.
Posted by sol magnus on June 18th, 2023 @ 11:24am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:
I like Brawn's transformation and alt mode
I'll stick with my bee movie Brawn though
i think Prime Wars got Brawn perfect, so I am more than happy to stick with him
He's too small for me. I'm upgrading. Scale FTW.
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163707)
Posted by Emerje on June 18th, 2023 @ 6:16pm CDT
Same, bot scale and cartoon accuracy is king for me. I'll buy anything that's fun regardless, but I'm always going to aim for figures that look "right" together. Titans Return Brawn is a good figure, but doesn't fit the scale.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on June 18th, 2023 @ 6:16pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:
I like Brawn's transformation and alt mode
I'll stick with my bee movie Brawn though
i think Prime Wars got Brawn perfect, so I am more than happy to stick with him
He's too small for me. I'm upgrading. Scale FTW.
Same, bot scale and cartoon accuracy is king for me. I'll buy anything that's fun regardless, but I'm always going to aim for figures that look "right" together. Titans Return Brawn is a good figure, but doesn't fit the scale.
Emerje
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163791)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 20th, 2023 @ 6:07am CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 20th, 2023 @ 6:07am CDT
I'm wondering if 
will include good ol' Brawn with the KIA figures? 
will include good ol' Brawn with the KIA figures?
Re: First Look at Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS86 "Dead" Ironhide and Details (2163880)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 20th, 2023 @ 7:30pm CDT
I kinda hope so. I would get him and Ratchet as the Deathscene Part II Pack to complete the quadruple murder
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 20th, 2023 @ 7:30pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm wondering if
I kinda hope so. I would get him and Ratchet as the Deathscene Part II Pack to complete the quadruple murder
