First Images of ROTF "The Fallen" Toy!

Wow! I just love the movie aesthetics. So, he's a leader size figure?

its definitely the fallen, the second post on the thread is of the instructions

*edit* nevermind seems the original story has been changed already

Ew.

Impressive

I can imagine this guys gunna be pretty scary on screen.. looking forward to seeing some clear pics of his vehicle mode. From what I can make out on the scan of the instructions looks kinda like Megatrons first vehicle mode, a cybertronian jet of some kind.

Awesome stuff though

Hasbro must be pissed about all these toy leaks. Oh well, if they want cheap chinese labour, then I guess the trade-off is a complete lack of security and rampant theft in their factories.

It's difficult to say what I think of the design - it's so... busy, moreso than most of the movie designs. The movie bots tend to be detailed, but most aren't overly messy - you can see the logic in where the big pieces go, like car fronts, wheels, etc. but this guy is just... weird.

Why do I think that this is going to turn into Jetfire? Very similar stance.

So it was the fallen who strangled Data in independance day then?

does look somewhat similar to the shape of jetfire...with the hunch and all.

note how it does say 'the fallen' on the instructions and that the instructions have no faction symbol (although there appears to be a autobot/decepticon hybrid symbol below the head, it doesn't look enough lik either to be on or the other)

oh and its got alien/grevious hands (4 fingers an 2 thumbs)

I suppose this will finally shut up all the whiners saying 'but no i think the fallen is talking about megatron or the other decepticons that were killed'

JayDee wrote:Wow! I just love the movie aesthetics. So, he's a leader size figure?

Nope, look at the size of the twist-tie still around one leg. That's a Deluxe, Voyager at best.

I for one hates this, the fallen may be a G1 or IDW character but i dont know much about part from hes one oth grand 13. and some pretector. but the name is it megs renamed as the fallen? is that his actual name or a nick name? i cant understand him being called "the" fallen or just fallen, other bots have names like ironhide, optimus prime and megatron but Fallen? i'll make a former called just "tripped". please be megs with a nickname, megs is the true leader of the decepticons and if he isnt then im not spending much on the movie 2 line.

im not happy now, the only thing thats gonna make up for this is devastator

Valandar wrote:

JayDee wrote:Wow! I just love the movie aesthetics. So, he's a leader size figure?

Nope, look at the size of the twist-tie still around one leg. That's a Deluxe, Voyager at best.

I'd say voyager given the twist tie and the clear elastics for scale...plus the fact its got those bands and twist tie on suggest this could come packaged in bot mode

What the heck? I don't see any resemblance to the head on the teaser poster. Hopefully this won't be his permanent form, I hope he scans another vehicle. I still think it's possible he's the giant rolling guy in the trailer, seeing how huge he was. But this is seriously ugly. Might be Jetfire, but I don't see how that makes sense story-wise.

Reminds me of an eva ....eatherway i like it

Cryo Prime wrote:Reminds me of an eva ....eatherway i like it

of a what? eva?

mattyc1007 wrote:

Cryo Prime wrote:Reminds me of an eva ....eatherway i like it

of a what? eva?

I think he might mean an Evangelion, I see it to


The purple one is Eva Unit 01, the yellow one behind it is Eva Unit 00.

Very cool...VERY cool...I like it.

I actually like it... Even though I'm partial to the Universe Classics,
for being movie aesthetic, why not take it here??
I may not buy it, since my plan is to buy almost nothing from this new line,
but this looks to have some potential.

I kinda like the idea that this could be Megatron either early on or later in the film, but I have a feeling this is an actual character separate from any others.

GetterDragun wrote:Why do I think that this is going to turn into Jetfire? Very similar stance.

After seeing this, I'm completely convinced that's what is joint to happen. Seeing that he's a Cybertronian jet, it makes complete sense.

zero-kaiser wrote:

mattyc1007 wrote:

Cryo Prime wrote:Reminds me of an eva ....eatherway i like it

of a what? eva?

I think he might mean an Evangelion, I see it to


The purple one is Eva Unit 01, the yellow one behind it is Eva Unit 00.

yep glad im not the only one that sees it

I think it has potential... the story wise, I doubt he will become Jetfire... the only reason they call him "the fallen" is because no one remembers his name... It'd be cool if he did take on an earth form like a Globemaster III or an aircraft carrier or something else immensely huge... the problem with the trailer character is that its the wrong face shape and detail... oh well we'll find out when it gets closer...

DevastaTTor wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:Why do I think that this is going to turn into Jetfire? Very similar stance.

After seeing this, I'm completely convinced that's what is joint to happen. After seeing that he's a Cybertronian jet, it makes complete sense.

Careful... You need to have two braincells firing simultaneously to make that connection, we don't want to confuse the public school students.

I agree that this guy looks Deluxe or Voyager at best.

If this guy truly is THE The Fallen, then I imagine he'll also be getting a Leader class treatment... much like Prime or Megatron did.

take a look at the fallens feet. now look again at the teaser at the clip where sam is nearly crushed by what everyone seems to think is megatrons hand. theyre the same.

What? A confused robot then a freakin' everything blah gohnrdn one?

Looks neat!

Serpent O - R wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:Why do I think that this is going to turn into Jetfire? Very similar stance.

After seeing this, I'm completely convinced that's what is joint to happen. After seeing that he's a Cybertronian jet, it makes complete sense.

Careful... You need to have two braincells firing simultaneously to make that connection, we don't want to confuse the public school students.

You still have not replied to my question in this thread.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=48793&p=874492#p874492

Who is Omnus? They are posting from your same IP. Duplicate Id maybe? Care to explain?

So... I was wrong that "The Fallen" would not be in this movie. He will.

I think I'm also wrong in thinking that "The Fallen" will end up as Jetfire... but, there's still a very small chance. I mean Skyfire/Jetfire was the first TF to "fall" into the earth when he explored Earth with Starscream in the original cartoon. Perhaps they used that as inspiration for this movie. I highly doubt it, but like I said... it's a (very small) possibility.

Of course, if one of those leaked stories I read about Wheelie discovering Jetfire in some hanger is true... then I say no way that Jetfire = The Fallen.

On topic: The Fallen toy looks ok at best in my opinion, not too fond of him so far. I still think its a bad call on MB's part to put a pretty obscure character in a movie that is both tailored to fans and general moviegoers, unless they put in about 30 minutes of backstory to at least cover who and what the fallen is. Sad part is, even people who are fans, unless they're die-hard fans, don't know who The Fallen is (myself included) unless they read the Dreamwave(?) comics. Even then, take a look at how inconsistent the storytelling was in the first movie.

YRQRM0 wrote:...I still think it's possible he's the giant rolling guy in the trailer, seeing how huge he was. But this is seriously ugly...

Off topic: The "giant rolling guy" from the trailer is one of the Constructicons, we've already seen his toy in both modes, I'm just waiting for his name to be Scrapper since that is who he resembles the most, and what I've been calling him since I first saw his toy. Everyone who is a fan at my job is now following suit.

i thought at first that orange thing on top of his head was his face then i see where his face is its to green cant tell teh detail on his or where it is if look at first glance.

very impressive and egyption like

he almost looks like these guys from the yugioh tv series forgot the first guys name

Would be nice if the pictures actually showed.

very nice I want a leaderclass version!

dragons wrote:i thought at first that orange thing on top of his head was his face then i see where his face is its to green cant tell teh detail on his or where it is if look at first glance.

very impressive and egyption like

he almost looks like these guys from the yugioh tv series forgot the first guys name

The big guy up there is Exodia and I'll have to run the Fallens pic. by my oldest son when I visit with my kids tomorrow to see if he makes the connection there too. The bulk of what I know about Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon games and cartoons is because of him so it will be interesting to see if he picks up on it that quick, but I agree that there are some shared elements there.
The thing that I cant believe is that they are throwing this guy in on top of Starscream returning and the introduction of Soundwave and Ravage and the Constructicons. Even with new Autobot troops I really don't think they needed another freaking challenge. They were already well on their way to having their butts handed to them.

He might be a jet but he's still got a tank ass. Hope he translates well to the screen

I'm having a hard time admitting this, but I'm a little scared about the general audience with all this... like all they might see is Megazords and Alien. Do I not have enough faith in... well... people?

So, Waspinator was part of the First 13, after all...

Chaoslock wrote:So, Waspinator was part of the First 13, after all...

No he wasn't, the 13 were the first transformers and all primes they include Vector Prime, Alpha Trion, and Prima. Anyways this fallen looks like he could be movie waspinator... I'm disappointed. Where are his flames?

I didnt know transformers were crossing over with bionicle. Looks interesting but i cant call that a Transformer. Ill have to see more before i decide to buy or not. Hell need to see more to even decide if i like it.

lsoul5 wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:So, Waspinator was part of the First 13, after all...

No he wasn't, the 13 were the first transformers and all primes they include Vector Prime, Alpha Trion, and Prima. Anyways this fallen looks like he could be movie waspinator... I'm disappointed. Where are his flames?

Anyway, he reminds me of this guy:

http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NE ... oose1a.jpg
http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NE ... oose1b.jpg

lsoul5 wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:So, Waspinator was part of the First 13, after all...

No he wasn't, the 13 were the first transformers and all primes they include Vector Prime, Alpha Trion, and Prima.

He HAS to be one of the 13 or in some way related to the Primes! How else do you explain a character who has racked up as many "deaths", if not more, than Optimus but just wont stay dead? He's probably the only character in Decepticon/Predacon history that has been shot more times by his own leader or team-mates than Starscream.

Only other explanation would be to say "The Force is strong with this one!" but I think several of the fans out there aren't going to buy into that explanation either.

Unless he's meant to bring balance to the Matrix... What?!? Why can't Waspinator = The Fallen??? Like it's any more preposterous than Wheelie getting a shot at a 2nd movie? Michael Bay has alredy messed with everyones reality, I'm just spreading the "love" around.

This news just gets better and better but i cant wait for devs

Very, very awesome. Does look to be a Voyager, maybe a Deluxe. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Leader though.

Ok here's the deal im pretty much 100% positive that this fallen toy is leader class, here's why.. #1 he's got the twist ties on in robot mode and judging bye the last movie leader class toys only the leader class where in there boxes in robot form #2 the back of the toy shows the screw holes in his back there are alot of screw holes in his back i checked and double checked all of my tf 1 movie toys and deluxes don't even come close to having that many screws again either do the voyagers close but nope and my megatron prime and brawl leader class are caked in screw holes..so like i said im pretty much 100% positive he's a leader class

Tell me what's going on with this cybertronian jet idea? I thought that The Fallen is supposed to be some epic ancient Decepticon not just a jet like Megs, Starscrem, Jetfire, Dreadwing and so on! And speaking about Jetfire, If the idea that he is Jetfire turn out to be true it would be the most retarded thing about Bayformers! How is he going to combine with Prime?!

Its about as bad as Megatron was

now that i think about it he has to be a leader or deluxe the instructions start from the robot mode which is what the deluxe figures are packed in or it could be a leader but it's not a voyager so I'm thinkin this is a deluxe.

I'm not a big fan. Looks like the Renegade Vamp. I might like the vehicle mode, and I do like the arms. That's about it.

he reminds me a lot of Don Figureoa's concept art for cybertron vector prime

Another one futuristic jet? Boring...

LordGrift wrote:Tell me what's going on with this cybertronian jet idea? I thought that The Fallen is supposed to be some epic ancient Decepticon not just a jet like Megs, Starscrem, Jetfire, Dreadwing and so on! And speaking about Jetfire, If the idea that he is Jetfire turn out to be true it would be the most retarded thing about Bayformers! How is he going to combine with Prime?!

ON TOPIC: I think this is one bad-ass looking toy, and promises to be one bad-ass character, even if he is brought in to set up the third film.

OFF TOPIC: He is not Jetfire!

and The Fallen was a Cybertronian Tank, and now he's a Cybertronian Jet...

I, for one, understand the switch, because how much of a threat can you be when you are stuck on land as a tank, and let's not forget, IT IS A DIFFERENT TRANSFORMERS UNIVERSE, FFS!!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fallen_(Transformers)
...just in case anyone isn't familiar with The Fallen



They should rename this and all threads suggesting this ridiculous Fallen/Megatron/Jetfire talk as "How to beat a Dead Horse into Glue"

It gives off a sort of Beast Wars/Machines vibe, I think it's rubbish.

HE'S JETFIRE !!!!!

darn it! i was going to try and avoid the movie toys this time around. dang it dang it dang it!