First Images of Actual Studio Series ROTB Airazor and Battletrap

These "movie" bots looks like Generations toys.

I like them, but call me weird but I kinda miss the alien designs of the first 3 movies.

-Kanrabat- wrote:These "movie" bots looks like Generations toys.

They are. Studio Series is a Generations line.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:These "movie" bots looks like Generations toys.

They are. Studio Series is a Generations line.

Stop splitting hair.
You know exactly what I mean, you "tomato are fruit" you.

I really can't say how disappointed I am that SS ROTB Airazor shares the same engineering as Kingdom Airazor. It's a brand-new Transformers film in years, the Beast Wars characters are finally getting live-action representation, and the engineering's reused...

Other than maybe sculpt, the previous figure was so, so much better. It had a more interesting transformation, a sleeker bird mode, and a robot mode with like zero kibble.

I mean, it will have to depend on how the on-screen model looks, but unless the CGI model transforms EXACTLY like how Kingdom Airazor does, there is literally zero excuse to have reused the same engineering other than sheer unadulterated laziness.

-Kanrabat- wrote:These "movie" bots looks like Generations toys.

I like them, but call me weird but I kinda miss the alien designs of the first 3 movies.

I definitely miss those designs too, the first 3 movies are the best Transformers have ever looked IMO.

I think Battletrap’s head design feels like it could fit in with the Bayverse though. His proportions feel kinda off, which could be just a thing with the figure but was a common complaint I had for a lot of the BB designs.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:These "movie" bots looks like Generations toys.

I like them, but call me weird but I kinda miss the alien designs of the first 3 movies.

I definitely miss those designs too, the first 3 movies are the best Transformers have ever looked IMO.

I think Battletrap’s head design feels like it could fit in with the Bayverse though. His proportions feel kinda off, which could be just a thing with the figure but was a common complaint I had for a lot of the BB designs.

Yeah the Battletrap head gives a lot of Bayverse vibes

Battletrap looks sick, that airazor looks like ass, cannot believe they copy-pasted kingdom airazor when the "simplified" mainline one innovated so much, so successfully

that is not the same airrazor we saw before

Immortal Starscream wrote:that is not the same airrazor we saw before

Just like the news post said.

Preferred the previous Airrazor design myself, but I can still recognize the character enough that I'm okay with it. Though the toy would be cooler if it didn't look so much like the Kingdom release

I have to say, my opinions are getting worse now. I was impressed by the previous airazor, but this!

Why does airazor have that green?
Why does her face look like the spider from Charlotte's web?
Why does battletrap's head look like a giant robot anime charecter?
Why can't female transformers from the movie universe have liquid metal faces?
Why does Airazor actually look like a kingdom retool while the previous didn't?
Why does her alt mode resemble a vulture?
Why do I like the Airazor kid toy more than the collector figure?

Bernie's Towing and Autobody. (Not so) subtle nod to Bernie Mac, or am I reading too much into it?

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Bernie's Towing and Autobody. (Not so) subtle nod to Bernie Mac, or am I reading too much into it?

Very possible.

Overcracker wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Pictures have leaked of (presumably Studio Series) voyager ROTB Battletrap!

ROTB Battletrap.JPG

I think he looks pretty cool! Not a big fan of the proportions but I like the sculpted detail and the head sculpt looks really good!

Looks real nice. Truck mode is really sweet. Reminds me a bit of Movie Longarm only better.


Also, AirRazor looks like a slightly enalrged retool of AirRazor, not really an enitrely new mold.

Specially arms and legs.

The Main Line version looks much better overall.

Yeah, that's not an all-new Airrazor.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Battletrap looks sick, that airazor looks like ass, cannot believe they copy-pasted kingdom airazor when the "simplified" mainline one innovated so much, so successfully

I'm glad you put simplified in quotes because while it will be in a kids aimed line, it wont be simplified. We even saw the transformation, it's as complex as the kingdom Airazor mold, if not more so (also indicative that they are both suitable for the same age group).

And that's been confusing a lot of people, understandably so, since this is a result of the movie being delayed. The big difference isn't the complexity, it's the sculpt and detail. The initial Airazor we saw is part of the ROTB mainline that was supposed to be out months ago. That line mirrors the Earthspark and Cyberverse line where the entire line is aimed at kids but there are deluxes which may interest fans as well due to their more standard complexity. And all the toys in that line were based on early movie designs so that they could be sold in stores in summer 2022 when the film would have been out. Plus there would be no sense of scale since any character could be in this deluxe class. That is the line the initial Airazor is from.

This new one is from the 2023 studio series line that was always going to come out in 2023, so one year after the film. And with that extra time, the idea is that Hasbro would have had more updated designs to work with, hence the differences in design.

But since the film was delayed, the toys that should have already been out will now come out at the same time as the toys that were always meant to come later. Hence why we get 2 deluxe Airazors at once, both seemingly as complex, transformation wise, but different in design.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Pictures have leaked of (presumably Studio Series) voyager ROTB Battletrap!

ROTB Battletrap.JPG

I think he looks pretty cool! Not a big fan of the proportions but I like the sculpted detail and the head sculpt looks really good!

Looks real nice. Truck mode is really sweet. Reminds me a bit of Movie Longarm only better.


Also, AirRazor looks like a slightly enalrged retool of AirRazor, not really an enitrely new mold.

Specially arms and legs.

The Main Line version looks much better overall.

Yeah, that's not an all-new Airrazor.

It's the same discussion we had before for many figures, like SS Voyager Starscream, MPM Prime or the switchblade one steps. Technically, the mold is 100% new since they had to literally create a new mold for all the new parts this figure has (which is all of them). But it's based on an already existing design/CAD file. So while the mold is 100% new, the transformation itself is not.

-Kanrabat- wrote:These "movie" bots looks like Generations toys.

I like them, but call me weird but I kinda miss the alien designs of the first 3 movies.

Well it definitely doesnt help that this movie airazor is absed on a generations toy. But Battletrap looks as Bayverse as can be. There's the shot of him next to Bayverse Hot Rod and they look like they come from the same film. Granted, Hot Rod is a design post the initial trilogy, but still Bayverse.

We are here to explain what is happening. Fans have been very confused at the sight of 2 completely different Rise of the Beasts deluxe class Airazor toys which look as complex (for a standard deluxe). So here is a breakdown with info coming from insiders and people with access to distributor info.

This whole confusion is a result of the movie being delayed. The big difference isn't the complexity, it's the sculpt and detail. The initial Airazor we saw is part of the Rise of the Beasts mainline that was supposed to be out months ago. That line mirrors the Earthspark and Cyberverse lines where the entire line is aimed at kids but there are deluxes which may interest fans as well due to their more standard complexity. Since these were worked on early, all toys in that line are based on early movie designs so that they could be sold in stores in summer of 2022 for kids and parents to buy, along with the 2022 holiday season. Also, it would be a unified class so all bots would be relatively the same size, and there would just be deluxes, no voyagers or leaders. That is the line the initial Airazor is from. Below is an image along with the listing for that Airazor and the other characters in the deluxe class of that ROTB movie line (Core Boy means the toys are aimed at 8 year old boys).

Tra Mv7 Core Boy Deluxe Class Ast with the EAN: 5010993983308
Deluxe Bumblebee (Codename: George)
Deluxe Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Deluxe Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Deluxe Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Deluxe Nightbird (Codename: Outlaw)



The Studio Series one first shown just a few hours ago is from the 2023 Studio Series line that was always going to come out in 2023, so one year after the film. And with that extra time, the idea is that Hasbro would have had more updated designs to work with, hence the differences in design.

But since the film was delayed, the toys that should have already been out will now come out at the same time as the toys that were always meant to come later. Hence why we get 2 deluxe Airazors at once, both seemingly as complex, transformation wise, but different in design.

Below are some of the Studio Series Rise of the Beasts figures we know are coming in 2023 along with Airazor.

TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Bumblebee (Codename: George)
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Tra Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Nightbird (Codename Outlaw)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Cheetor (Codename: Butch)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Battletrap (Codename: Appolo)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Rhinox (Codename: Warrior)

So that means what we are seeing with Airazor will also happen with Bumblebee, Wheeljack, Nightbird and Mirage. 2 deluxe toys, both similar in complexity, but with different designs. We don't know if Hasbro will try avoiding to have them on the shelves at the same time or not.

Hopefully that cleared things up for some people.

Orange truck looks great, maybe a bit too square/angular in vehicle mode but a definite buy for me. Also liking the head, the move away from the live action hideousnous is good. Kinda reminds me of armada red alert.

Air razor is confusing and the head is five steps backwards. Bird mode looks a little bit less cyber but I think the first wins out. If it has cyber parts might as well embrace them. I might prefer bot mode on this one but the other one saves me from head swapping.

WOOOOOW!
ROTB BATTLETRAP...
hmm... a movie figure that I don't immediately hate!
Fascinating.
I haven't seen any movie fig put a smile on my face since - IDK - ummmmm... Dropkick's helicopter figure?
It looks like maybe we are moving towards bots that don't look like they forgot to put on their outer chassis when they ran out of the house late for work!
Usually Baybots tend to look like Robot chickens or bugs or a bunch of wires and knives that young Anikin Skywalker forgot to ask his mom to get coverings for.
I might actually lift my self-imposed ban on movie-bots, if we continue with this trend!
Airazor, on the other hand, looks like @#$%!!!
Kidding!
She looks even better than the previous one.
We shall see.

I might just pick up the mainline version. The SS toy looks like it transforms the same as Kingdom/BW Airazor, and I'm feeling like we've been there and done that for an already simple transformation. I really like the look of the mainline's transformation, with the legs becoming the wings similar to my favorite toy out of the entire Unicron Trilogy, Divebomb.

Battletrap looks absolutely amazing. Gonna be nice getting him and putting him with the rest of the Movie 'Cons. He'll fit right in with the other car 'Cons.

It'll be interesting to see which one will be more screen accurate, in theory it should be the Studio Series one but they may have tweaked the cgi models even further with the delay.

Can we just talk about how the mainline airazor would be a perfect starting point for a really good terrorsaur figure?

I really want both of these molds in my collection but I don't need three Airazors. Hopefully these get recolors or slight retools into other characters at some point.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:These "movie" bots looks like Generations toys.

I like them, but call me weird but I kinda miss the alien designs of the first 3 movies.

Well it definitely doesnt help that this movie airazor is absed on a generations toy. But Battletrap looks as Bayverse as can be. There's the shot of him next to Bayverse Hot Rod and they look like they come from the same film. Granted, Hot Rod is a design post the initial trilogy, but still Bayverse.

That's just the head, like for Legacy Bulkhead.

I mean not only bug-faces, but chicken legs, multiple arms, overkill of mechanical details, truly ALIEN designs.

This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
Stiiiiiiiiiil, he's pretty damn awesome and it will be one of the rare movie toy that I'll pre-order.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I mean not only bug-faces, but chicken legs, multiple arms, overkill of mechanical details, truly ALIEN designs.

This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".

I don't know, the Bumblebee movie designs were hewing pretty close to pre-Bay - even the Decepticons, who traditionally had the more xenomorph-esque designs.

Wow wow wow wow wow!

Battletrap looks REALLY good. They got the beef of the alt mode, which is a truck mode that I am particularly attached to from my family history. And that robot mode is incredible. It's a great mix of standard Transformers and Bayverse, complete with a wonderful movie head. And the colors look great on him. and a wrecking ball weapon! I have absolutely zero bad things to say.

I don't really care about the Airazor conundrum, both look good to me for different reasons, and both will end up on my movie shelves.

Dr. Caelus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I mean not only bug-faces, but chicken legs, multiple arms, overkill of mechanical details, truly ALIEN designs.

This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".

I don't know, the Bumblebee movie designs were hewing pretty close to pre-Bay - even the Decepticons, who traditionally had the more xenomorph-esque designs.

The Bee movie was the "happy medium", I feel, between the truly alien Bay designs (which make sense because, y'know, alien robots who don't necessarily have a "human" perspective, just the mechanical efficiency perspective). More G1 blocky feel but still streamlined.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
Stiiiiiiiiiil, he's pretty damn awesome and it will be one of the rare movie toy that I'll pre-order.

I get that, but the designs changed within Bay's time as well, during the previous soft reboot that happened with AOE where Optimus' design change drastically. This goes more with those, like Drift, Crosshairs, Hound, Hot Rod, the new Barricade, ect. Still Bayverse but from a different period.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
Stiiiiiiiiiil, he's pretty damn awesome and it will be one of the rare movie toy that I'll pre-order.

I get that, but the designs changed within Bay's time as well, during the previous soft reboot that happened with AOE where Optimus' design change drastically. This goes more with those, like Drift, Crosshairs, Hound, Hot Rod, the new Barricade, ect. Still Bayverse but from a different period.

Well, I wish they would go crazy with the designs again.

A fully CGI series based on the home planet of the ROTB beastformers would allow that.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
Stiiiiiiiiiil, he's pretty damn awesome and it will be one of the rare movie toy that I'll pre-order.

I get that, but the designs changed within Bay's time as well, during the previous soft reboot that happened with AOE where Optimus' design change drastically. This goes more with those, like Drift, Crosshairs, Hound, Hot Rod, the new Barricade, ect. Still Bayverse but from a different period.

Well, I wish they would go crazy with the designs again.

A fully CGI series based on the home planet of the ROTB beastformers would allow that.

That won't work. It's too original and not G1 enough.

That was sarcasm.

With our first look, yesterday, at two Studio Series toys coming out in 2023, I thought it would be a good time to consolidate all the listings we got to give you a full view of what is coming out next year in that line. It will be a mix of toys for characters from the Rise of the Beasts movie (labelled as TF7 in toy listings, two of which are still code names), War for Cybertron High Moon Game, 86 Movie Michael Bay films (of which there is only one so far). We do not know the full wave breakdown and that will always be subject to change, but below you will find the full list organized by price point. This does not include exclusive Studio Series toys like the upcoming Hatchet.


Core Class:

Tra Gen Studio series Core TF3 Bumblebee
Tra Gen Studio series 86 core Frenzy
Tra Gen Studio series 86 core Ironhide
Tra Gen studio series core TF7 code name Delta2
Tra Gen Studio series Core TF7 code name Hydra


Deluxe Class:

TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Bumblebee (Codename: George)
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Tra Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Nightbird (Codename: Outlaw)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx WFC Barricade
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Bumblebee
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Cliffjumper
Tra Gen Studio series 86 Dlx Brawn


Voyager Class:

TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Cheetor (Codename: Butch)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Battletrap (Codename: Appolo)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Rhinox (Codename: Warrior)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Megatron
Tra Gen Studio series VOY WFC Optimus Prime
Tra Gen Studio series 86 voyager Ratchet


Leader Class:

Tra Gen Studio Series Leader TF7 Optimus Primal (Codename: Cyclops)
Tra Gen Studio Series Leader TF7 Scourge (Codename: Oscar)
Tra Gen Studio Series 86 Leader Snarl

william-james88 wrote:Tra Gen Studio series Dlx WFC Barricade
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Bumblebee
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Cliffjumper

Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Megatron
Tra Gen Studio series VOY WFC Optimus Prime
Tra Gen Studio series 86 voyager Ratchet

I didn't realise the Studio Series High Moon figures were appearing so soon?

Suddenly thinking ahead to (maybe) SS Metroplex and Bruticus??

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Tra Gen Studio series Dlx WFC Barricade
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Bumblebee
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Cliffjumper

Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Megatron
Tra Gen Studio series VOY WFC Optimus Prime
Tra Gen Studio series 86 voyager Ratchet

I didn't realise the Studio Series High Moon figures were appearing so soon?

Suddenly thinking ahead to (maybe) SS Metroplex and Bruticus??

I have a feeling you'll be waiting a bit longer for those two.

True. But for those people asking for a new/redux Metroplex. I'd say it would likely be this one.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. But for those people asking for a new/redux Metroplex. I'd say it would likely be this one.

That's doesnt make sense to me since the previous Metroplex was the one from WFC. We'd get a more g1 accurate Metroplex before revisiting a WFC Metroplex.

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. But for those people asking for a new/redux Metroplex. I'd say it would likely be this one.

That's doesnt make sense to me since the previous Metroplex was the one from WFC. We'd get a more g1 accurate Metroplex before revisiting a WFC Metroplex.

This is my thinking, and I'm surprised Warden left before he got a crack at it. As it is, i can't see them doing Metroplex till 2025? Gives them a couple of years removed from Cybertron Metroplex.

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. But for those people asking for a new/redux Metroplex. I'd say it would likely be this one.

That's doesnt make sense to me since the previous Metroplex was the one from WFC. We'd get a more g1 accurate Metroplex before revisiting a WFC Metroplex.

This is my thinking, and I'm surprised Warden left before he got a crack at it. As it is, i can't see them doing Metroplex till 2025? Gives them a couple of years removed from Cybertron Metroplex.

Comparing the two, the WFC one just looks like an update to the original design. So I'd assume any new Metroplex would work from the WFC model and fix it's problems IE the teeny, tiny waist.
I don't imagine there would be a need to revisit the "G1" look, in lieu of the WFC one. Outside of a Selects-style redeco?

william-james88 wrote:Tra Gen Studio Series 86 Leader Snarl

I'm surprised they're going with Snarl before Swoop.

JazZeke wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Tra Gen Studio Series 86 Leader Snarl

I'm surprised they're going with Snarl before Swoop.

Is Swoop going to be Leader Class? If not, that might explain him being last??

JazZeke wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Tra Gen Studio Series 86 Leader Snarl

I'm surprised they're going with Snarl before Swoop.

Isn't Swoop rumored to be a voyager? Maybe they want to get the leaders out of the way?

I'm largely removed from collecting Bayverse figures in general, and I have low expectations for the new movie, so unless some of these are visually stunning and the engineering is next level, I'll probably just stick with Frenzy and Snarl. Maybe Brawn. I would like to see Springer get released in SS86. Just the cleaned up version of the Siege figure.

I still think Devastator should be done in SS86, either as single releases or a set, or both like RoTF Devy was. Or just reissue CW Devy in SS86 packaging.

Optimus and Megatron should still be coming. But I guess there's a near bottomless goldmine in the potential new figures from the game designs.

How far would they go with game designs? WFC Springer, Broadside and the other concept designs that didn't make it into the series? Or just the base roster?

There is also the PS2 Transformers game, based loosely on Armada. That could bring a select number of UT figures some modern updates.

Pretty sure swoop was confirmed as leader, he might have a small bit of plastic with him like grimlock or starscream did to look worthy of the pricing.

Remind me, where was it confirmed that WFC meant High Moon rather than Netflix?

blackeyedprime wrote:Pretty sure swoop was confirmed as leader, he might have a small bit of plastic with him like grimlock or starscream did to look worthy of the pricing.

Swoop has been rumoured to have been both at one point. I think he'll be leader on account of the plastic needed for the wings.

Regarding Metroplex, it was said that Warden wanted a more G1 take on ole plex (read not stretched out just to gain a title that he held for 2 years just to give to Fortress...who then lost it to Unicron). I'd imagine the intent would be to have a plex with G1 proportions.

Bear this in mind though that we've yet to have a titan class outside the main Generations line branding yet (one exception being when Takara did Grand.) It's entirely possible that Studio Series never gets a commander or titan class of It's own. Only time will tell if it holds true

EDIT:

Omegatron. wrote:Remind me, where was it confirmed that WFC meant High Moon rather than Netflix?

While more an assumption still (baring either a leak of figures or official confirmation), it's down to there already being a Netflix wfc line.

Omegatron. wrote:Remind me, where was it confirmed that WFC meant High Moon rather than Netflix?

When it was noted that Studio Series would be going from films to video games. A Netflix WFC line already exists. So it wouldn't make sense for it to be in the SS line, too.

Cool toys! It also means we're gonna have to wait a bit more for a Studio Series Rise of the Beasts Optimus Prime.

Day 1058 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:A Netflix WFC line already exists. So it wouldn't make sense for it to be in the SS line, too.

And a G1 already exists but they still put G1 toys in Studio Series, so I don't find that very persuasive.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When it was noted that Studio Series would be going from films to video games.

Ok, where was that confirmed?

Omegatron. wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:A Netflix WFC line already exists. So it wouldn't make sense for it to be in the SS line, too.

And a G1 already exists but they still put G1 toys in Studio Series, so I don't find that very persuasive.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When it was noted that Studio Series would be going from films to video games.

Ok, where was that confirmed?

It hasn't officially but we have just had a line of screen accurate decos to the Netflix series and Siege, so while it could be a line of reissues, it's doubtful.

Really this is the problem of having two completely different things called War For Cybertron

Omegatron. wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:A Netflix WFC line already exists. So it wouldn't make sense for it to be in the SS line, too.

And a G1 already exists but they still put G1 toys in Studio Series, so I don't find that very persuasive.

Studio Series '86 AKA G1: The Movie. Hence why it was in the SS line. Netflix series has no movie. But High Moon does have a video game series.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When it was noted that Studio Series would be going from films to video games.

Omegatron. wrote:Ok, where was that confirmed?

It was a news article, a while ago. It should be in this thread.

ZeroWolf wrote:Really this is the problem of having two completely different things called War For Cybertron

If only it was the first time Hasbro had performed this particular blunder... Robots in Disguise, anyone?