First Global Sighting of Transformers Kingdom Line and Better Look at Wave 2 Toys like Dinobot
Tuesday, December 1st, 2020 12:22AM CST
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We also have a better look at three of the wave 2 figures: Ultra Magnus, Dinobot and Inferno. Inferno comes with the small hoses to attach to his feet and Dinobot has his legs in an orange to homage the original toy (photo below). The photos were found on the Facebook page Cybertron 21. Let us know what you think!
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 1st, 2020 @ 12:47am CST
All the same, sorry for going off on you like that... It bugs me when people treat it like it's something the TR toy added despite it having been part of both the original toy and the cartoon appearance, but that wasn't worth venting my spleen over in this case...bacem wrote:Ohh, right. I never paid attention to the g1 toys that much. So yes, apparently i don't. My bad.
Hmmm. Given that that basically amounts to "Wings and an extra cannon" I'd still say there's room for the base figure to be on the larger side. If the base figure does turn out to be as small as ER Optimus, though, then he's a hard pass for sure.Jeddostotle7 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm also fine with TR Galvatron.sol magnus wrote:And with armor, they're just about the same size. I like my Titans Return Galvatron (one of the few TR guys I own). If Galvatron is superior in Kingdom, I'll pony up - but for now I'm good with the one I have.
My point is that Kingdom Galvy - who Rodimus Prime will have to be on part with height-wise - is going to be as big as TR Galvy or bigger, and trying to get a WFC Leader's Voyager-ish robot to match that height would be a stretch.
IIRC the leakers have been pretty consistently saying Galvatron will have armor pieces that make him more Energon Megatron/Galvatron-ish, and with that info it's safe to assume Kingdom Galvatron will be roughly ER Optimus height, if not a bit taller.
...You know, having heard that tidbit, and doing a comparison, I kinda think he could actually be a TR Galvatron retool. Because TR Galvy's jet mode? Turns out to be laid out similarly to Energon Megatron/Galvatron's.
Kingdom Ultra Magnus is almost definitely a pass for me. The G1 windshield and the cab projecting further forward aren't enough to sell me when I already have the SIEGE version. If it turns out when we see altmode pics that they somehow contrived to have him accommodate 4 Deluxe cars (which, looking at the back of his armor legs, seems pretty unlikely), that would change my mind...
But absent that, I'm going to stick to the SIEGE version and do my best to make a larger trailer (because the 3P "upgrade" bozos aren't putting forth that kind of effort anymore).
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:27am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:All the same, sorry for going off on you like that... It bugs me when people treat it like it's something the TR toy added despite it having been part of both the original toy and the cartoon appearance, but that wasn't worth venting my spleen over in this case...bacem wrote:Ohh, right. I never paid attention to the g1 toys that much. So yes, apparently i don't. My bad.Hmmm. Given that that basically amounts to "Wings and an extra cannon" I'd still say there's room for the base figure to be on the larger side. If the base figure does turn out to be as small as ER Optimus, though, then he's a hard pass for sure.Jeddostotle7 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm also fine with TR Galvatron.sol magnus wrote:And with armor, they're just about the same size. I like my Titans Return Galvatron (one of the few TR guys I own). If Galvatron is superior in Kingdom, I'll pony up - but for now I'm good with the one I have.
My point is that Kingdom Galvy - who Rodimus Prime will have to be on part with height-wise - is going to be as big as TR Galvy or bigger, and trying to get a WFC Leader's Voyager-ish robot to match that height would be a stretch.
IIRC the leakers have been pretty consistently saying Galvatron will have armor pieces that make him more Energon Megatron/Galvatron-ish, and with that info it's safe to assume Kingdom Galvatron will be roughly ER Optimus height, if not a bit taller.
...You know, having heard that tidbit, and doing a comparison, I kinda think he could actually be a TR Galvatron retool. Because TR Galvy's jet mode? Turns out to be laid out similarly to Energon Megatron/Galvatron's.
Kingdom Ultra Magnus is almost definitely a pass for me. The G1 windshield and the cab projecting further forward aren't enough to sell me when I already have the SIEGE version. If it turns out when we see altmode pics that they somehow contrived to have him accommodate 4 Deluxe cars (which, looking at the back of his armor legs, seems pretty unlikely), that would change my mind...
But absent that, I'm going to stick to the SIEGE version and do my best to make a larger trailer (because the 3P "upgrade" bozos aren't putting forth that kind of effort anymore).
I think I'm the opposite, I'm actually gonna be annoyed if Galvy's any taller than ER Optimus, cuz he isn't supposed to have gotten any taller when he was reformatted. He's supposed to be the same height as Optimus.
Posted by Emerje on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:35am CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:Wait, who confirmed Loudpedal and when? I already knew about Road Rage, but a Loudpedal confirmation is news to me. I'd be stoked if we're getting both.Emerje wrote:Rumors say Road Rage and Loud Pedal are coming as exclusives.
Emerje
What? Confirmation? Who said anything about confirmation? This is the problem with the leaks, now any time rumor pops up it's suddenly taken as if it actually means something. As far as I'm concerned nothing is confirmed until there's proof no matter how reliable the leaker.
Loudpedal is too easy of a repaint for Hasbro to pass on, I'm confident he'll happen somehow.
Emerje
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:38am CST
Emerje wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Wait, who confirmed Loudpedal and when? I already knew about Road Rage, but a Loudpedal confirmation is news to me. I'd be stoked if we're getting both.Emerje wrote:Rumors say Road Rage and Loud Pedal are coming as exclusives.
Emerje
What? Confirmation? Who said anything about confirmation? This is the problem with the leaks, now any time rumor pops up it's suddenly taken as if it actually means something. As far as I'm concerned nothing is confirmed until there's proof no matter how reliable the leaker.
Loudpedal is too easy of a repaint for Hasbro to pass on, I'm confident he'll happen somehow.
Emerje
Not to mention adds a Decepticon (or Merc), and it's Diaclone-y.
I hope that Road Rage and Loudpedal aren't a two pack though. That'd suck cause I want to pick up two Road Rages, but don't want a second Loudpedal
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:48am CST
Yes, he is. But here's the wrinkle with that for me: SIEGE and Earthrise Optimus are both too small. Just like Classics Optimus was. It's especially blatant in vehicle mode (ER Optimus' cab is about the same size as the freaking G1 toy's), but fairly noticeable in robot mode too (particularly if you compare to the cartoon scale chart, which WFC was trying to abide by).Jeddostotle7 wrote:I think I'm the opposite, I'm actually gonna be annoyed if Galvy's any taller than ER Optimus, cuz he isn't supposed to have gotten any taller when he was reformatted. He's supposed to be the same height as Optimus.
That's why I want Kingdom Galvatron to be taller: I want him to match the height Optimus should be, which is a mark ER Optimus fell short of.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:05am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yes, he is. But here's the wrinkle with that for me: SIEGE and Earthrise Optimus are both too small. Just like Classics Optimus was. It's especially blatant in vehicle mode (ER Optimus' cab is about the same size as the freaking G1 toy's), but fairly noticeable in robot mode too (particularly if you compare to the cartoon scale chart, which WFC was trying to abide by).Jeddostotle7 wrote:I think I'm the opposite, I'm actually gonna be annoyed if Galvy's any taller than ER Optimus, cuz he isn't supposed to have gotten any taller when he was reformatted. He's supposed to be the same height as Optimus.
That's why I want Kingdom Galvatron to be taller: I want him to match the height Optimus should be, which is a mark ER Optimus fell short of.
eh
I feel like they're nailing it in robot mode height, vehicle mode sizes I'm never very strict on cuz they're always gonna be wacky unless you really mess with the robot mode scaling to accommadate
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:38am CST
1. I'd say that they're not nailing it with Optimus' height, except in the sense of the "nailed it" meme (same for Megatron. They're the bad apples in the bunch). He falls visibly, substantially short even if you're not checking the chart. It's bad enough in my eyes that I'm actually sticking with Combiner Wars Optimus (who happens to be chart-perfect with SIEGE Sideswipe) for the time being.Jeddostotle7 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yes, he is. But here's the wrinkle with that for me: SIEGE and Earthrise Optimus are both too small. Just like Classics Optimus was. It's especially blatant in vehicle mode (ER Optimus' cab is about the same size as the freaking G1 toy's), but fairly noticeable in robot mode too (particularly if you compare to the cartoon scale chart, which WFC was trying to abide by).Jeddostotle7 wrote:I think I'm the opposite, I'm actually gonna be annoyed if Galvy's any taller than ER Optimus, cuz he isn't supposed to have gotten any taller when he was reformatted. He's supposed to be the same height as Optimus.
That's why I want Kingdom Galvatron to be taller: I want him to match the height Optimus should be, which is a mark ER Optimus fell short of.
eh
I feel like they're nailing it in robot mode height, vehicle mode sizes I'm never very strict on cuz they're always gonna be wacky unless you really mess with the robot mode scaling to accommadate
2. I'm not super strict when it comes to vehicle mode sizes. But at least with regard to ordinary road vehicles, I feel like they should be in the same scale ballpark unless it severely hurts the robot mode size. Which is not the case for ER Optimus, because he's undersize in both modes.
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 1st, 2020 @ 3:16am CST
Posted by Nemesis Primal on December 1st, 2020 @ 3:42am CST
...yeah, confirmed/confirmation was probably a bad word for that in retrospect, but I think it still got the point of my question across? I just haven't seen any actual rumors of Loudpedal but I have for Road Rage, so I was curious what you'd seen/heard that's different since you were talking as if he has been rumored already and I'm excited by the prospect of both.Emerje wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Wait, who confirmed Loudpedal and when? I already knew about Road Rage, but a Loudpedal confirmation is news to me. I'd be stoked if we're getting both.Emerje wrote:Rumors say Road Rage and Loud Pedal are coming as exclusives.
Emerje
What? Confirmation? Who said anything about confirmation? This is the problem with the leaks, now any time rumor pops up it's suddenly taken as if it actually means something. As far as I'm concerned nothing is confirmed until there's proof no matter how reliable the leaker.
Loudpedal is too easy of a repaint for Hasbro to pass on, I'm confident he'll happen somehow.
Emerje
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 1st, 2020 @ 7:50am CST
Posted by Emerje on December 1st, 2020 @ 7:56am CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:...yeah, confirmed/confirmation was probably a bad word for that in retrospect, but I think it still got the point of my question across? I just haven't seen any actual rumors of Loudpedal but I have for Road Rage, so I was curious what you'd seen/heard that's different since you were talking as if he has been rumored already and I'm excited by the prospect of both.
Eh, I probably shouldn't have said rumored either since what I really meant was strong speculation, though that tends to be the basis for rumor to begin with. Either way, it would be strange if such an obvious straight repaint wasn't attempted. Road Rage will be a more extensive (almost as extensive as turning Blackarachnia into Tarantulas) retool of Tracks, but Loud Pedal would just require a head swap that I'm sure will already be part of the mold.
BTW, now that I'm home from work and not looking at tiny photos on my phone I'm not at all convinced just from the pics that Dinobot's legs are based on the toy. I'm seeing cartoon accuracy with gold shins and orange accents on the sides.
The shins are the same color as the gold stripe on the thighs (which isn't accurate) and doesn't appear to be a trick of the light since it's identical placement on both legs even though one is slightly turned in. The "orange" looks to be the same plastic as the hip joints and probably a little more copper colored.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on December 1st, 2020 @ 8:23am CST
It's probably just flipped around backwards, with the white inner robot's waist facing forward.blackeyedprime wrote:Ultra Magnus has lost his G1 style belt/waist.
Posted by Tuned Agent on December 1st, 2020 @ 10:47am CST
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:06am CST
Posted by Razorbeast88 on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:07am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:25am CST
Cyber Bishop wrote:After watching the video the Kingdom figs look to have been picked up at a specialty shop and not a regular store (Target, Wal Mart, etc..) so they are not "officially" out as we have no idea how they were acquired.
PrimeTime wrote:Kingdom figures arrive in Hong Kong:
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:28am CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:30am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:31am CST
BewbsSentinel_Primal wrote:
Posted by Rtron on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:34am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:35am CST
Includes even more pics of the two, as well as the new Ultra Magnus.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:37am CST
Posted by sol magnus on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:38am CST
Posted by Rtron on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:39am CST
Posted by Razorbeast88 on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:41am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Original source - https://www.instagram.com/p/CIQ072hp9kh/
Includes even more pics of the two, as well as the new Ultra Magnus.
OMG you can give airrazor a Hawk head! Lmao thats awesome
Dinobot looks great, though the bright colored tip of the tail is a bit strange haha. So great though to finally have a good dinobot
Not interested in magnus but the new head sculpt is nice!
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 1st, 2020 @ 11:51am CST
Posted by Munkky on December 1st, 2020 @ 12:01pm CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 1st, 2020 @ 12:08pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on December 1st, 2020 @ 12:12pm CST
WFC-K14 Deluxe Airazor
The WFC-K14 Deluxe Airazor stands at 5.5 inches, and converts into a Beast Wars-inspired falcon in 22 steps. Airazor comes with 2 photon blaster accessories that connect to the figure's wrists, and its falcon mode features articulation for the wing, beak, and tail feathers. The approximate retail price for the figure is $19.99.
WFC-K18 Voyager Dinobot
The WFC-K18 Voyager Dinobot stands at 7 inches, and converts into a Beast Wars-inspired raptor in 28 steps. In raptor mode, it features articulated claws and a posable jaw. In Dinobot mode, the tail detaiches to become a Cyber Slash weapon. The approximate retail price for the figure is $29.99.
WFC-K20 Leader Ultra Magnus
The WFC-K20 Leader Ultra Magnus stands at 7.5 inches, and converts into a G1-inspired Earth armoured truck in 12 steaps. Alongside a blaster accessory, parts from the truck trailer can be used to armour the figure. The approximate retail price for the figure is $49.99.
Posted by aronjlove on December 1st, 2020 @ 12:20pm CST
Posted by Evil Eye on December 1st, 2020 @ 12:22pm CST
Dinobot also looks great; not perfect (the raptor mode's mammaries are somewhat amusing) but considering the pricepoint he's quite something. I'd argue in some ways he's more impressive than the MP in managing to look good in both modes with far less panel-massaging pain and almost no faux-parts.
Ultra Magnus though, I think I like the Siege version better. The separate truck mode is massively disappointing and very bland without the big blue "ramming prow" and in general he just doesn't look great without the Cybertronian flair.
Posted by Notimus Crime on December 1st, 2020 @ 12:31pm CST
Dinobot looks awesome. The chest situation in raptor mode is uh......distracting, but not a deal breaker.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:01pm CST
Posted by Omegatron. on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:11pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm guessing the trailer/armor is the same, only the small robot/cab got reworked.
The trailer has been modified, but only slightly. It's not that obvious unless you have Siege Magnus next to him.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:21pm CST
Omegatron. wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm guessing the trailer/armor is the same, only the small robot/cab got reworked.
The trailer has been modified, but only slightly. It's not that obvious unless you have Siege Magnus next to him.
yeah the sides are way more open, there might be more but that's the first thing I noticed
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:23pm CST
Airrazor not sure of the four rectangle tabs/gaps on the back of bird mode unless a Magnaboss is in the works, other than that slightly spoiling the looks pretty sure I'll be picking her up.
Dinobot and his two Kate Winslets...I mean floatation devices is a thing, the way his dino arms are posed are pretty bad, might need some adjusting. Like SS86 Grimlock hes missing dental work lol they both must have been smacked in the gob at some point. For all its flaws I might have to pick him up but some of the photos are eye watering bad from belly chuckles.
*the mistransformation on dinobot in one of the photos having hollow legs on the outer -sheesh who transforms and takes these photos
Posted by william-james88 on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:44pm CST
Emerje wrote:BTW, now that I'm home from work and not looking at tiny photos on my phone I'm not at all convinced just from the pics that Dinobot's legs are based on the toy. I'm seeing cartoon accuracy with gold shins and orange accents on the sides.
Guess that was just a trick of the light, since it's a solid plastic colour afterall.
By the way that small white magnus looks terrible. While I get that the alt mode wasn't G1 accurate the first time, the blue front of the vehicle made the white robot look better since that part looked like added kibble rather than the small robot having a backside with lots of reach. There's a lot less retooling than I imagined, it's really just the front half of the cab (two pieces).
Also, holy mistransfrmation Batman!
LOVE airrazor!!!!!! And Dinobot too.
Posted by ausbot on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:56pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on December 1st, 2020 @ 1:57pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:00pm CST
sol magnus wrote:SHould have shown all of them. Jeeze.
it's ok, at least we got the ones fans were most curious about.
blackeyedprime wrote:Magnus looks mistransformed in nearly all his modes in the pics, not sure what the protrudey things are ment to be on the cab either.
They are to insert into the holes in the back of his super mode chest.
Posted by Seibertron on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:02pm CST
Still a great figure though. I think they pulled this off better than the $250+ Masterpiece figure did (which I still think was way too big).
Posted by bluecatcinema on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:10pm CST
Posted by sol magnus on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:21pm CST
william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:SHould have shown all of them. Jeeze.
it's ok, at least we got the ones fans were most curious about.
Huh. I would have thought we were all "curious" about all of them. But, whatever. We eventually got them all.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:32pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Knight on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:33pm CST
Posted by Razorbeast88 on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:40pm CST
Posted by Immortal Starscream on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:49pm CST
Razorbeast88 wrote:It doesn't look super cool or menacing but I think that's how he had his hands positioned in the cartoon if I remember correctly
generally speaking yes, but he used his dino hands quite a bit too. Usually when he was walking or running in beast mode his hands were like that. But I will admit, these pics do make his dino hands seem a bit off somehow. of course he's also clearly mistransformed in one pic, so that could be making it seem off too.
Posted by WiseMan on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:50pm CST
What are the chances that the action poses have the colors wrong and the box art is right?
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on December 1st, 2020 @ 2:54pm CST
Posted by Razorbeast88 on December 1st, 2020 @ 3:00pm CST
Immortal Starscream wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:It doesn't look super cool or menacing but I think that's how he had his hands positioned in the cartoon if I remember correctly
generally speaking yes, but he used his dino hands quite a bit too. Usually when he was walking or running in beast mode his hands were like that. But I will admit, these pics do make his dino hands seem a bit off somehow. of course he's also clearly mistransformed in one pic, so that could be making it seem off too.
Yeah good point, he waved those things around a lot when he was snarling at the other maximals lol
From the last pic it seems like the dino hands have a similar joint to vertebreak's feet, though it looks like they fold down to be put away or something. From what I can see it just seems like the "fingers" look way too long and it looks off