First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless
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Seibertronian Rainmaker found the newest Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege several toys at Toyworld in Canberra, Australia. He found the wave 2 Battlemasters Pteraxadon and Aimless. They were also found by fellow Seibrtronian Drlockdown at another collectables store called Hobbyco. While these are the first global sightings for these toys, they are at collectable shops and not necessarily wide retail. Still, it means these are up and ready to go and can appear anywhere else at any moment.
If you find these toys in your area, or if there are other toys you wish to share with the community, you can post in our sightings forum or sighitngs section.
If you find these toys in your area, or if there are other toys you wish to share with the community, you can post in our sightings forum or sighitngs section.
Rainmaker wrote:the two Battlemasters I saw were the wave 2 ones, Pteraxadon and Aimless
This image is not my own, I got it from Discord by an Australian user called DrLockdown. I am using it show proof of the wave 2 Battlemasters until I can get my own, he bought these at a store called Hobbyco which I had not have heard of until now. Pteraxadon and Aimless lie next to Lionizer.
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Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006561)
Posted by LE0KING on January 24th, 2019 @ 10:13am CST
Posted by LE0KING on January 24th, 2019 @ 10:13am CST
I can't find a complete version of the original under 100 bucks on eBay, so it looks like this is my only option. Good thing it looks pretty awesome.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006563)
Posted by frogbat on January 24th, 2019 @ 10:41am CST
Posted by frogbat on January 24th, 2019 @ 10:41am CST
Think from what we've seen so far he's a great homage... however I'm suffering from Optimus prime fatigue and will skip him due to my g1 focus. I'm already getting UM a bit begrudgingly, so yeah at least it's 65 euro saved...
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006564)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 10:43am CST
You just have to wait for a while until you find a good offer. Just save the search for him on eBay and check every notification for new listings. Got mine the same way for about 50 bugs or even less complete and in (very) good condition
But I have to add that I got mine here in Germany and the market/competition/fan base in here is a bit smaller.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 10:43am CST
LE0KING wrote:I can't find a complete version of the original under 100 bucks on eBay, so it looks like this is my only option. Good thing it looks pretty awesome.
You just have to wait for a while until you find a good offer. Just save the search for him on eBay and check every notification for new listings. Got mine the same way for about 50 bugs or even less complete and in (very) good condition
But I have to add that I got mine here in Germany and the market/competition/fan base in here is a bit smaller.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006565)
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2019 @ 10:56am CST
Ebay is a place I would avoid for these toys. They are still recent enough that you can get better deals from local ads or local toy shows. I dont know exactly where you live, but ask in the meet ups/sightings thread if there are any shows in your area. That would be your best bet.
As for me, I remain indifferent on the toy. I feel its such a different kind of avenue for Hasbro. With g1, season 1 BW toys, BM, and Armada toys, there is a definite need for better toys. Which is why for G1 we have 2 lines heavily dedicated to better versions. But with Cybertron Prime, him being more modern, I get a very different feeling. I guess now I have a design I love that I can better pose, but even then the need isnt as strong. Cybertron Prime still feels like the definitive Cybertron Prime to me, does that make sense? I feel that for a few other toys that got redone recently like PMOP and Fort Max.
But say TR Trypticon, or most of TR (and most of MP), they feel like the definitive versions of those characters, at the moment.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2019 @ 10:56am CST
LE0KING wrote:I can't find a complete version of the original under 100 bucks on eBay, so it looks like this is my only option. Good thing it looks pretty awesome.
Ebay is a place I would avoid for these toys. They are still recent enough that you can get better deals from local ads or local toy shows. I dont know exactly where you live, but ask in the meet ups/sightings thread if there are any shows in your area. That would be your best bet.
As for me, I remain indifferent on the toy. I feel its such a different kind of avenue for Hasbro. With g1, season 1 BW toys, BM, and Armada toys, there is a definite need for better toys. Which is why for G1 we have 2 lines heavily dedicated to better versions. But with Cybertron Prime, him being more modern, I get a very different feeling. I guess now I have a design I love that I can better pose, but even then the need isnt as strong. Cybertron Prime still feels like the definitive Cybertron Prime to me, does that make sense? I feel that for a few other toys that got redone recently like PMOP and Fort Max.
But say TR Trypticon, or most of TR (and most of MP), they feel like the definitive versions of those characters, at the moment.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006566)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 24th, 2019 @ 11:21am CST
I'm looking at UM right now. While there is a space for a wheel, there is literally nothing to attach it to. A post going all the way to the body would get in the way of the leg articulation.
I suspect they wanted to have 2 front tires initially in the sketch/design phase, but when it came to actually putting the transformation together, it wasn't workable. The only real option would be to have the extra wheels parts-form to the cab like the rest of the trailer/armor, but even that would be difficult without driving the parts count up.
So I'd go with both budget and engineering issues.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 24th, 2019 @ 11:21am CST
Overcracker wrote:Interesting enough is that both this guy and Magnus have a very conspicuous gap between the front tire and the rest of the truck. Almost as if a second front tire was meant to occupy that space.
Cybertron Prime has 2 front tires, so it would have made sense for this homage to have them too. Did they get removed due to budget constraints? Engineering issues? Both? Something else?
I'm looking at UM right now. While there is a space for a wheel, there is literally nothing to attach it to. A post going all the way to the body would get in the way of the leg articulation.
I suspect they wanted to have 2 front tires initially in the sketch/design phase, but when it came to actually putting the transformation together, it wasn't workable. The only real option would be to have the extra wheels parts-form to the cab like the rest of the trailer/armor, but even that would be difficult without driving the parts count up.
So I'd go with both budget and engineering issues.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006567)
Posted by LE0KING on January 24th, 2019 @ 11:28am CST
That's good advice thank you.
Will; I understand completely. I was 12 when tf Cybertron originally aired. It's the first tf show I ever watched. My parents bought me what they could (mostly deluxes or scouts) but the big figures were out of their price range. So when thrilling 30 got me into collecting I started looking up unicron trilogy toys. I realized just how bad armada and energon toys were, but more importantly I saw how awesome the cybertron figures are.
In my personal opinion cybertron figures are better than just about anything we've gotten since (save t30 springer) and if there was ever a line that has held up it's that one.
So if they are going to remake unicron trilogy figures it should be figures from the two lines that don't have solid, articulated figures.
Posted by LE0KING on January 24th, 2019 @ 11:28am CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:LE0KING wrote:I can't find a complete version of the original under 100 bucks on eBay, so it looks like this is my only option. Good thing it looks pretty awesome.
You just have to wait for a while until you find a good offer. Just save the search for him on eBay and check every notification for new listings. Got mine the same way for about 50 bugs or even less complete and in (very) good condition
But I have to add that I got mine here in Germany and the market/competition/fan base in here is a bit smaller.
That's good advice thank you.
Will; I understand completely. I was 12 when tf Cybertron originally aired. It's the first tf show I ever watched. My parents bought me what they could (mostly deluxes or scouts) but the big figures were out of their price range. So when thrilling 30 got me into collecting I started looking up unicron trilogy toys. I realized just how bad armada and energon toys were, but more importantly I saw how awesome the cybertron figures are.
In my personal opinion cybertron figures are better than just about anything we've gotten since (save t30 springer) and if there was ever a line that has held up it's that one.
So if they are going to remake unicron trilogy figures it should be figures from the two lines that don't have solid, articulated figures.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006568)
Posted by Overcracker on January 24th, 2019 @ 11:46am CST
I would only expect a peg or vestigial indication of a tire there if the decision to remove it was made almost into production.
Otherwise, anything that would have held a secondary tire there would have been removed earlier in the concept stage. Remember these guys go through several revisions before we get the final product.
I do agree, its likely an engineering issue related to clearance with the hip joints. Even having the tire swivel out of the hip area and remain hinged to the front tire and on the butt flap in robot mode to avoid clearance issues may have been deemed unsightly and a good way to reduce parts count and cost. At least 10 less parts considering swivel joints, pegs, tires and pins on each side.
Posted by Overcracker on January 24th, 2019 @ 11:46am CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Overcracker wrote:Interesting enough is that both this guy and Magnus have a very conspicuous gap between the front tire and the rest of the truck. Almost as if a second front tire was meant to occupy that space.
Cybertron Prime has 2 front tires, so it would have made sense for this homage to have them too. Did they get removed due to budget constraints? Engineering issues? Both? Something else?
I'm looking at UM right now. While there is a space for a wheel, there is literally nothing to attach it to. A post going all the way to the body would get in the way of the leg articulation.
I suspect they wanted to have 2 front tires initially in the sketch/design phase, but when it came to actually putting the transformation together, it wasn't workable. The only real option would be to have the extra wheels parts-form to the cab like the rest of the trailer/armor, but even that would be difficult without driving the parts count up.
So I'd go with both budget and engineering issues.
I would only expect a peg or vestigial indication of a tire there if the decision to remove it was made almost into production.
Otherwise, anything that would have held a secondary tire there would have been removed earlier in the concept stage. Remember these guys go through several revisions before we get the final product.
I do agree, its likely an engineering issue related to clearance with the hip joints. Even having the tire swivel out of the hip area and remain hinged to the front tire and on the butt flap in robot mode to avoid clearance issues may have been deemed unsightly and a good way to reduce parts count and cost. At least 10 less parts considering swivel joints, pegs, tires and pins on each side.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006570)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:02pm CST
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:02pm CST
Is Impactor an Autobot or a Decepticon? 
But i dig the Alt Mode, a pre-tool of Brunt i suppose?
But i dig the Alt Mode, a pre-tool of Brunt i suppose?
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006571)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:06pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:06pm CST
Impactor is currently a mercenary fighting as a con, with Mirage trying to convert him to the Autobots. Also I think he's going to be a retool of Ironhide personally
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006577)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:17pm CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:17pm CST
My money is a Hound retool for Impactor. New front end, new hand, new head, and a new cannon and he's set
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006578)
Posted by no-one on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:17pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:17pm CST
So I've been tinkering around with Skytread and a thought occurred to me. What if Transformers aren't forged after all 
Joking aside, he's a fun bot and makes me wish they would have done the same for Battletrap. Lots of fun to have the alt modes zipping around my desk then transform them mid movement and slam them together. I'm probably crazy or can't figure it out, but the two alt modes don't have any type of combined mode or clip together in anyway? My searches are coming up empty as well.
Joking aside, he's a fun bot and makes me wish they would have done the same for Battletrap. Lots of fun to have the alt modes zipping around my desk then transform them mid movement and slam them together. I'm probably crazy or can't figure it out, but the two alt modes don't have any type of combined mode or clip together in anyway? My searches are coming up empty as well.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006579)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:18pm CST
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:18pm CST
He could also be a new mold. So far, we have a majority of new molds with some retools, so I wouldn't be surprised if Impactor was a new mold. That said, regarding Cybertron Prime, I think he's a charming modern version of the original, not a definitive version, but more of an update. I might get him, if I don't get UM, considering I already have the CW Leader
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006580)
Posted by joevill on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:18pm CST
Posted by joevill on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:18pm CST
I'm totally going for both!!
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006581)
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:24pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:24pm CST
I don't see why Impactor wouldn't be an original new mold. He was the fan vote winner. I'd bet Hasbro will treat him as such. No fan vote winner has been a retool/repaint. (edit: Ok. Except Victorian. 
)
@Will - I feel you on your views on Cyb Prime. I felt the same with Op Op from PotP. Had they not done the Throne exclusive, I would have probably skipped him. For me Op Op needed no updating or replacing, but I love that he was available for fans who didn't have the original. Same with Cyb Prime.
For me, I've only ever had the Galaxy Force color scheme, and always kind of wanted the classic color scheme also. If nothing else though, this release would be a neat way for me to have my cake and eat it too. Plus it would be a new and different toy.
)@Will - I feel you on your views on Cyb Prime. I felt the same with Op Op from PotP. Had they not done the Throne exclusive, I would have probably skipped him. For me Op Op needed no updating or replacing, but I love that he was available for fans who didn't have the original. Same with Cyb Prime.
For me, I've only ever had the Galaxy Force color scheme, and always kind of wanted the classic color scheme also. If nothing else though, this release would be a neat way for me to have my cake and eat it too. Plus it would be a new and different toy.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006582)
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:27pm CST
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:27pm CST
I have a feeling somewhere there are several Hasbro employees losing their minds. Over this Optimus leaks.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006584)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:36pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:36pm CST
Why did they color Optimus's front bumper pale gray instead of blue? That looks so shabby.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006585)
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:39pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:39pm CST
Because those parts don't form his forearms??Sabrblade wrote:Why did they color Optimus's front bumper pale gray instead of blue? That looks so shabby.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006586)
Posted by no-one on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:47pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:47pm CST
I have a felling Impactor is going to be an original mold or maybe I just hope it's an original mold. I'm hoping the alt mode looks something like this.
With such a deliberate slow tickle, how do we know the "leaks" aren't intentional. Plausible deniabilityMr.MicroMaster wrote:I have a feeling somewhere there are several Hasbro employees losing their minds. Over this Optimus leaks.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006587)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:47pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:47pm CST
So? Ultra Magnus's front bumper just ends up on his back. Were this the same case, then the color of the bumper wouldn't affect the robot mode deco, meaning it could have been any color at all.Cobotron wrote:Because those parts don't form his forearms??Sabrblade wrote:Why did they color Optimus's front bumper pale gray instead of blue? That looks so shabby.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006588)
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:52pm CST
I was just looking at the robot mode pic as compared to this new alt pic. The push bar pieces in the robo pic appear to have wheels attached to them but where did the wheels go in the alt pic? I wonder if they can be used to fill the gap where the second front wheels would be. I'm assuming the push bars come off of the front of the alt and peg into the robo forearms. Of course "assumptions" and all.
Repost pics for reference.
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:52pm CST
Hence the ??. You're totally right. They could have painted it any way they liked.Sabrblade wrote:So? Ultra Magnus's front bumper just ends up on his back. Were this the same case, then the color of the bumper wouldn't affect the robot mode deco, meaning it could have been any color at all.Cobotron wrote:Because those parts don't form his forearms??Sabrblade wrote:Why did they color Optimus's front bumper pale gray instead of blue? That looks so shabby.
I was just looking at the robot mode pic as compared to this new alt pic. The push bar pieces in the robo pic appear to have wheels attached to them but where did the wheels go in the alt pic? I wonder if they can be used to fill the gap where the second front wheels would be. I'm assuming the push bars come off of the front of the alt and peg into the robo forearms. Of course "assumptions" and all.
Repost pics for reference.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006589)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:54pm CST
Free publicity is free? I think there have only been 2 new figures leaked, the ss op and this op - hardly the line ruining leaks for the cw trilogy; they've certainly been curtailed since a few years ago. They'll probably deal with it at their own pace I'm sure
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 12:54pm CST
carytheone wrote:With such a deliberate slow tickle, how do we know the "leaks" aren't intentional. Plausible deniability
Free publicity is free? I think there have only been 2 new figures leaked, the ss op and this op - hardly the line ruining leaks for the cw trilogy; they've certainly been curtailed since a few years ago. They'll probably deal with it at their own pace I'm sure
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006590)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:02pm CST
Hmm....
Also
the IDW represents him as Neutral/No Faction, he's a
But I'll be damned if his tank mode resembles his IDW Design.
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:02pm CST
carytheone wrote:I have a felling Impactor is going to be an original mold or maybe I just hope it's an original mold. I'm hoping the alt mode looks something like this.
Hmm....
Also
the IDW represents him as Neutral/No Faction, he's a
But I'll be damned if his tank mode resembles his IDW Design.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006593)
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:18pm CST
Yeah, those are the only 2 solid leaks. Which sure beats 2 years ago when the majority of Studio Series and POTP was leaked.
YES! Its the same thing. And I think thats why of the 3 leaders we got, OP OP was the one that left me the most unsatisfied. He had more going for himself than the others in a way, but because it was a toy we were more familiar with, it didnt feel like much of an upgrade/update over what we had before. It wasn't much of a new experience, especially not compared to Prime or Rodimus which I really enjoy playing with.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:18pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:carytheone wrote:With such a deliberate slow tickle, how do we know the "leaks" aren't intentional. Plausible deniability
Free publicity is free? I think there have only been 2 new figures leaked, the ss op and this op - hardly the line ruining leaks for the cw trilogy; they've certainly been curtailed since a few years ago. They'll probably deal with it at their own pace I'm sure
Yeah, those are the only 2 solid leaks. Which sure beats 2 years ago when the majority of Studio Series and POTP was leaked.
Cobotron wrote:@Will - I feel you on your views on Cyb Prime. I felt the same with Op Op from PotP.
YES! Its the same thing. And I think thats why of the 3 leaders we got, OP OP was the one that left me the most unsatisfied. He had more going for himself than the others in a way, but because it was a toy we were more familiar with, it didnt feel like much of an upgrade/update over what we had before. It wasn't much of a new experience, especially not compared to Prime or Rodimus which I really enjoy playing with.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006598)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:49pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:49pm CST
Wave 2 already? Sheesh, better get Firedrive and Blowpipe when I see them, along with the Micros... Better hold me if that "Road" Patrol is actually the Off Road Patrol, my very first:
Transformers G1 1989 Powertrain (Freed) Gallery
*ahem* That Cybertron-inspired Prime looks... OK, anyone who was meh'ed at PotP Optimal Optimus? I now know exactly how you feel, I still own my original Galaxy Convoy, and love it still. I'll have to see its transformation and some in-hand images before deciding.
Transformers G1 1989 Powertrain (Freed) Gallery
*ahem* That Cybertron-inspired Prime looks... OK, anyone who was meh'ed at PotP Optimal Optimus? I now know exactly how you feel, I still own my original Galaxy Convoy, and love it still. I'll have to see its transformation and some in-hand images before deciding.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006599)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:50pm CST
I can see where you are coming from when I look at the following picture regarding the shoulder cannon...
...but I'd definitely prefer a tank alt mode like...
And I wouldn't mind him being a mold mate of Brunt. It'd actually be pretty cool if he was a Weaponizer.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:50pm CST
Sentinel_Primal wrote:My money is a Hound retool for Impactor. New front end, new hand, new head, and a new cannon and he's set
I can see where you are coming from when I look at the following picture regarding the shoulder cannon...
...but I'd definitely prefer a tank alt mode like...
And I wouldn't mind him being a mold mate of Brunt. It'd actually be pretty cool if he was a Weaponizer.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006600)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:51pm CST
TR had all those art leaks too, but yeah, things have taken an upturn, or they would have, if we didn't get line-wide listings for things from retailers or something
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:51pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:carytheone wrote:With such a deliberate slow tickle, how do we know the "leaks" aren't intentional. Plausible deniability
Free publicity is free? I think there have only been 2 new figures leaked, the ss op and this op - hardly the line ruining leaks for the cw trilogy; they've certainly been curtailed since a few years ago. They'll probably deal with it at their own pace I'm sure
Yeah, those are the only 2 solid leaks. Which sure beats 2 years ago when the majority of Studio Series and POTP was leaked.
TR had all those art leaks too, but yeah, things have taken an upturn, or they would have, if we didn't get line-wide listings for things from retailers or something
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006601)
Posted by X3ROhour on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:55pm CST
Posted by X3ROhour on January 24th, 2019 @ 1:55pm CST
carytheone wrote:I have a felling Impactor is going to be an original mold or maybe I just hope it's an original mold. I'm hoping the alt mode looks something like this.With such a deliberate slow tickle, how do we know the "leaks" aren't intentional. Plausible deniabilityMr.MicroMaster wrote:I have a feeling somewhere there are several Hasbro employees losing their minds. Over this Optimus leaks.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006603)
Posted by ToastBucket on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:11pm CST
Posted by ToastBucket on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:11pm CST
this excites me because i've noticed that there appears to be a removable handgun attached to one of the cannons that isn't shown in the first leak
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006604)
Posted by no-one on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:17pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:17pm CST
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Actually I forgot Brunt's alt mode is along that line. Guess I'm already covered.Z3ROhour wrote:carytheone wrote:I have a felling Impactor is going to be an original mold or maybe I just hope it's an original mold. I'm hoping the alt mode looks something like this.
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Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006605)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:26pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:26pm CST
We'll find out soon, though I'd thought people may be more excited about Omega Supreme being revealed
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006606)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:27pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:27pm CST
Hmmm...I just watched a video review of the 2005 Transformers: Cyberton Leader Class Optimus Prime figure. I never had the figure myself, but I think a little bit of nostalgia is rosening up some collectors' glasses on the toy, honestly. It's big and chunky, yes, but it's also very basic in its transformation, not especially well articulated, and way too heavy for its own good, especially in Super Mode. At least we know the upcoming SIEGE homage will have ankle tilts! There are parts and panels that don't really seem to "clip" into place, like the side windows of the cab and the "wings" when folded up into trailer mode. The loss of the "flight mode" seems to be no big deal either, as it looks even more ridiculous than the "plane mode" on Titans Return Voyager Optimus Prime with the primary wings stuck on the back end of the fuselage.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006608)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:32pm CST
I have the original and I really like its flight mode. It's not meant to be a plane mode other like TR Voyager Optimus Prime's. It's just a flying truck with wings.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:32pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Hmmm...I just watched a video review of the 2005 Transformers: Cyberton Leader Class Optimus Prime figure. I never had the figure myself, but I think a little bit of nostalgia is rosening up some collectors' glasses on the toy, honestly. It's big and chunky, yes, but it's also very basic in its transformation, not especially well articulated, and way too heavy for its own good, especially in Super Mode. At least we know the upcoming SIEGE homage will have ankle tilts! The loss of the "flight mode" seems to be no big deal either, as it looks even more ridiculous than the "plane mode" on Titans Return Voyager Optimus Prime with the primary wings stuck on the back end of the fuselage.
I have the original and I really like its flight mode. It's not meant to be a plane mode other like TR Voyager Optimus Prime's. It's just a flying truck with wings.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006609)
Posted by o.supreme on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:33pm CST
If you dig back through the thread there were quite a few posts about Omega Supreme. I'm sure whatever we see at Toyfare will spark the usual many pages of conversation
Posted by o.supreme on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:33pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:We'll find out soon, though I'd thought people may be more excited about Omega Supreme being revealed
If you dig back through the thread there were quite a few posts about Omega Supreme. I'm sure whatever we see at Toyfare will spark the usual many pages of conversation
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006610)
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:36pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:36pm CST
He's a klunker alright, but to actually hold him in your hands makes all the difference in the world.
They just don't make 'em like that anymore.
They just don't make 'em like that anymore.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006611)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:37pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:37pm CST
I don't think it was that badly articulated, and on mine everything tabbed correctly at least 
Also the Transformation was screen accurate didn't need false parts like the masterpiece line 
Also the Transformation was screen accurate didn't need false parts like the masterpiece line
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006613)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:46pm CST
That is one thing that I thought was awesome about the Unicron Trilogy, especially in Cybertron. The on-screen character models were actually based on the toys, right down to how they transform. That's a level of detail we haven't gotten since, unfortunately, except for some of Animated.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 24th, 2019 @ 2:46pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't think it was that badly articulated, and on mine everything tabbed correctly at least
That is one thing that I thought was awesome about the Unicron Trilogy, especially in Cybertron. The on-screen character models were actually based on the toys, right down to how they transform. That's a level of detail we haven't gotten since, unfortunately, except for some of Animated.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006614)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
I don't think so, everyone (myself included) has been pretty up front about it's flaws, and it has them too. But the thing I think has everyone excited is:
-It's not G1 (trust me g1 fatigue is real and as it encroaches on other lines (ss for one) it's only going to get worse)
-The original is an extremely fun toy, and that people still want it is a testament to how it holds up
-It's not a 'g1 with knee's' scenario, its a completely different take on a figure that technically needed no updating (I'd argue that a reissue with better ratchets is warranted) so it's not necessarily competing against it's older counterpart
-It's a more budget-friendly option for newer collectors to obtain, remember cybertron came out almost 15 years ago, the movies and shows that came out after it, ushered in so many new collectors that had missed out on this gem (and many other), so now they have a chance to get a version of it to experience;
So all in all, I think this is not only going to be a fun toy that many collectors are going to want for a wide reaching number of reasons, but also offers a small breath of fresh air from the stringent g1-itude of the line, which is something we all need every now and then.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Hmmm...I just watched a video review of the 2005 Transformers: Cyberton Leader Class Optimus Prime figure. I never had the figure myself, but I think a little bit of nostalgia is rosening up some collectors' glasses on the toy, honestly. It's big and chunky, yes, but it's also very basic in its transformation, not especially well articulated, and way too heavy for its own good, especially in Super Mode. At least we know the upcoming SIEGE homage will have ankle tilts! There are parts and panels that don't really seem to "clip" into place, like the side windows of the cab and the "wings" when folded up into trailer mode. The loss of the "flight mode" seems to be no big deal either, as it looks even more ridiculous than the "plane mode" on Titans Return Voyager Optimus Prime with the primary wings stuck on the back end of the fuselage.
I don't think so, everyone (myself included) has been pretty up front about it's flaws, and it has them too. But the thing I think has everyone excited is:
-It's not G1 (trust me g1 fatigue is real and as it encroaches on other lines (ss for one) it's only going to get worse)
-The original is an extremely fun toy, and that people still want it is a testament to how it holds up
-It's not a 'g1 with knee's' scenario, its a completely different take on a figure that technically needed no updating (I'd argue that a reissue with better ratchets is warranted) so it's not necessarily competing against it's older counterpart
-It's a more budget-friendly option for newer collectors to obtain, remember cybertron came out almost 15 years ago, the movies and shows that came out after it, ushered in so many new collectors that had missed out on this gem (and many other), so now they have a chance to get a version of it to experience;
So all in all, I think this is not only going to be a fun toy that many collectors are going to want for a wide reaching number of reasons, but also offers a small breath of fresh air from the stringent g1-itude of the line, which is something we all need every now and then.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006616)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:23pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:23pm CST
Oh, don't get me wrong, Hellscream. I am excited for this new SIEGE interpretation of the Cybertron design. I was just trying to point out that, yes, the original mold from 2005 does have flaws and is not inherently nor obviously superior to his new homage we are getting in 2019, especially when it comes to things like availability and affordability, as you have said, in addition to likely superior poseability and stability.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006617)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:28pm CST
Well the old one didn't parts form all it's stuff; but yeah, the old one needed way better ratchets as all its add-ons are really heavy and it's proportions are kinda off, but yeah other than that, I'd say it lives up to the hype
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:28pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Oh, don't get me wrong, Hellscream. I am excited for this new SIEGE interpretation of the Cybertron design. I was just trying to point out that, yes, the original mold from 2005 does have flaws and is not inherently nor obviously superior to his new homage we are getting in 2019, especially when it comes to things like availability and affordability, as you have said, in addition to likely superior poseability and stability.
Well the old one didn't parts form all it's stuff; but yeah, the old one needed way better ratchets as all its add-ons are really heavy and it's proportions are kinda off, but yeah other than that, I'd say it lives up to the hype
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006618)
Posted by Skritz on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:30pm CST
Unless it's a direct update from the bricky days of G1 (like a lot of Prime War figures of guys who didn't have any new update), very few figures from the latter era are truly a step up on a modern budget, as figures from the past decade were generally bigger, beefier and more gimmick-loaded compared to the more streamlined and cost-saving style of today. I'd argue that most are simply a tradeoff between size/gimmick for more modern articulation and better proportions and look, with Optimal Optimus being a good example of how much the proportions have improved.
And man, that Cybertron Optimus! It's not perfect by any mean but I'm genuinely shocked at how much of the super mode is spot on to the Galaxy Convoy design. That said as cool as he is, I'm not entirely sure, as that pic make his shoulders look weird and undersized compared to Ultra Magnus but it could be the angle. Plus I already have two Optimus in my collection.
Hmmm. But maybe with some white paint he'd make an interesting Prima custom...?
Posted by Skritz on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:30pm CST
Emerje wrote:As expected, Leader Optimus is no substitute for the original
Unless it's a direct update from the bricky days of G1 (like a lot of Prime War figures of guys who didn't have any new update), very few figures from the latter era are truly a step up on a modern budget, as figures from the past decade were generally bigger, beefier and more gimmick-loaded compared to the more streamlined and cost-saving style of today. I'd argue that most are simply a tradeoff between size/gimmick for more modern articulation and better proportions and look, with Optimal Optimus being a good example of how much the proportions have improved.
And man, that Cybertron Optimus! It's not perfect by any mean but I'm genuinely shocked at how much of the super mode is spot on to the Galaxy Convoy design. That said as cool as he is, I'm not entirely sure, as that pic make his shoulders look weird and undersized compared to Ultra Magnus but it could be the angle. Plus I already have two Optimus in my collection.
Hmmm. But maybe with some white paint he'd make an interesting Prima custom...?
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006619)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:33pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:33pm CST
Who knows... Maybe hasbro are planning a redeco of this leader Prime for sdcc (though I also wouldn't be suprised at a Delta Magnus redco...with a redone Cog to look like the transforming roller you got in the Diaclone Battle Convoy toy
(though I also wouldn't be suprised at a Delta Magnus redco...with a redone Cog to look like the transforming roller you got in the Diaclone Battle Convoy toy
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006620)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:41pm CST
You just had to mention that:
Transformers Cybertron Galaxy Force Optimus Prime Gallery
I quite like that one, with the symbols especially. I have the Deluxe one repurposed as Roller
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2019 @ 3:41pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Who knows... Maybe hasbro are planning a redeco of this leader Prime for sdcc
You just had to mention that:
Transformers Cybertron Galaxy Force Optimus Prime Gallery
I quite like that one, with the symbols especially. I have the Deluxe one repurposed as Roller
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006623)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 4:04pm CST
What a genius idea for a redeco. I especially love the Delta Magnus idea, gives me an opportunity to get the UM mold if I don't get UM or Cybertron Prime
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 24th, 2019 @ 4:04pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Who knows... Maybe hasbro are planning a redeco of this leader Prime for sdcc
What a genius idea for a redeco. I especially love the Delta Magnus idea, gives me an opportunity to get the UM mold if I don't get UM or Cybertron Prime
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006624)
Posted by Emerje on January 24th, 2019 @ 4:05pm CST
Somebody got their hands on a leaked picture of the back of the box and are milking it for views, that's all.
We saw it in the first blurry leak.
On this figure the front wheels snap off and go onto his arms. Would people have complained if he had two wheels on his arms instead of one to fill the gap better? It would have cost them a little more plastic, but it seems worth it to me.
Toy Fair is coming up fast and it isn't a fan event so why would they need to hype people up with a slow leak like this? Seems unlikely.
Or better yet...
Nova Prime
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 24th, 2019 @ 4:05pm CST
carytheone wrote:So what is it with the trickle feed teases all the time. They clearly have the box, why not drop the full image? Looks like a fun toy though.
Somebody got their hands on a leaked picture of the back of the box and are milking it for views, that's all.
Cobotron wrote:Out of the 3 leaked images so far this looks like the first to show that he does indeed come with a hand held blaster that pegs into the front of one of the cannons.
I'm relieved to see that.
We saw it in the first blurry leak.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I suspect they wanted to have 2 front tires initially in the sketch/design phase, but when it came to actually putting the transformation together, it wasn't workable. The only real option would be to have the extra wheels parts-form to the cab like the rest of the trailer/armor, but even that would be difficult without driving the parts count up.
On this figure the front wheels snap off and go onto his arms. Would people have complained if he had two wheels on his arms instead of one to fill the gap better? It would have cost them a little more plastic, but it seems worth it to me.
carytheone wrote:With such a deliberate slow tickle, how do we know the "leaks" aren't intentional. Plausible deniability
Toy Fair is coming up fast and it isn't a fan event so why would they need to hype people up with a slow leak like this? Seems unlikely.
Skritz wrote:Hmmm. But maybe with some white paint he'd make an interesting Prima custom...?
Or better yet...
Nova Prime
Emerje
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006625)
Posted by Skritz on January 24th, 2019 @ 4:09pm CST
There's also Amazon later on, like how we got POTP Nemesis Prime.
While it would be cool if Hasbro somehow made an official Nova Prime, I unfortunately already splurged on a massive upgrade kit for Battle Core Optimus Prime, so I got all my Nova Prime needs covered.
Posted by Skritz on January 24th, 2019 @ 4:09pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Who knows... Maybe hasbro are planning a redeco of this leader Prime for sdcc
There's also Amazon later on, like how we got POTP Nemesis Prime.
Emerje wrote:Skritz wrote:Hmmm. But maybe with some white paint he'd make an interesting Prima custom...?
Or better yet...
Nova Prime
While it would be cool if Hasbro somehow made an official Nova Prime, I unfortunately already splurged on a massive upgrade kit for Battle Core Optimus Prime, so I got all my Nova Prime needs covered.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006626)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 4:10pm CST
Primus I need one of these so badly
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 24th, 2019 @ 4:10pm CST
Emerje wrote:Or better yet...
Nova Prime
Emerje
Primus I need one of these so badly
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006634)
Posted by Skritz on January 24th, 2019 @ 5:44pm CST
There's a third party kit for Battle Core Optimus Prime.
Posted by Skritz on January 24th, 2019 @ 5:44pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Emerje wrote:Or better yet...
Nova Prime
Emerje
Primus I need one of these so badly
There's a third party kit for Battle Core Optimus Prime.
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006635)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on January 24th, 2019 @ 5:58pm CST
Posted by Immortal Starscream on January 24th, 2019 @ 5:58pm CST
doh, ignore this one. I thought tonton put up the seige cybertron optimus, but its the old cybertron optimus 
sorry
sorry
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006639)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 24th, 2019 @ 6:14pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 24th, 2019 @ 6:14pm CST
Galaxy Convoy looks really good so far! I am excited for him to come to our hands. It feels good to see more "generations" representations in here. And this makes a great voyager prime with an awesome upgrade mode
Re: First Global Sighting for Wave 2 Siege Battle Masters Pteraxadon and Aimless (2006641)
Posted by Skritz on January 24th, 2019 @ 6:53pm CST
Posted by Skritz on January 24th, 2019 @ 6:53pm CST
So, given CW Optimus was almost Energon Optimus, does this mean we only need Armada Optimus Prime and it will be 'close enough' for the Unicron Trilogy Optimus?
Optimuses...Optimii...Optimoose...? 
Optimuses...Optimii...Optimoose...?
