First Global Sighting and Review for Cyberverse Spark Armor Jetfire and Starscream
Friday, June 21st, 2019 5:32PM CDT
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-Kanrabat- wrote:So I finally got my hands on some Cyberverse armor guys. Got the two I wanted the most, Starscream and Jetfire. Price was 20$CAN plus taxes each.
So, how do they hold up?
Right of the bat, the posability is pretty damn fantastic!. That is, for Cyberverse standards. Paint aps are minimal, but sufficient.
The armor gimmick is more than basic, but it add play value aplenty. However, I predict a TON of incomplete bots flooding the secondary market in a decade or two. All those detachable parts are meant to be lost.
Transformation is simple for both. Unfortunately, Starscream just do the "Superman" with his legs completely exposed. Lazy. Jetfire, however, have a more complete transformation by collapsing his legs and hiding his head. The armor gimmick don't work at all in vehicle mode unfortunately.
Starscream is nice enough and WAY superior than the warrior class. However, Jetfire is the clear winner here.
All that Jetfire love since a few years!
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 21st, 2019 @ 5:36pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 21st, 2019 @ 5:41pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Fellow Seibertronian Kanrabat spotted the new Cyberverse Spark Armor figures at Toysrus in Laval, Canada. Both Jetfire and Starscream were found for $20 CAD (on sale)
Correction. At 20$CAN, that is the FULL PRICE. No sale.
So it's definitely the better deal compared to the "deluxe" fast-action-battlers that are priced the same. The Armor guys feel like genuine transformers and I'd buy more at full price without any hesitation. Hell, I may get them all! (Except that giant Optimus)
Forgot to mention that the had of those bots don't turn and only Starscream have a waist joint due to transformation. No wrists swivel too, but that was expected.
EDIT:
Heeeeeeyyyy……………. I can legit be that ass that claim "FIRST"!
Posted by notsoalex on June 21st, 2019 @ 5:49pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 21st, 2019 @ 6:14pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 21st, 2019 @ 6:15pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Fellow Seibertronian Kanrabat spotted the new Cyberverse Spark Armor figures at Toysrus in Laval, Canada. Both Jetfire and Starscream were found for $20 CAD (on sale)
Correction. At 20$CAN, that is the FULL PRICE. No sale.
So it's definitely the better deal compared to the "deluxe" fast-action-battlers that are priced the same. The Armor guys feel like genuine transformers and I'd buy more at full price without any hesitation. Hell, I may get them all! (Except that giant Optimus)
Forgot to mention that the had of those bots don't turn and only Starscream have a waist joint due to transformation. No wrists swivel too, but that was expected.
EDIT:
Heeeeeeyyyy……………. I can legit be that ass that claim "FIRST"!
But yesterday, all tfs at toysrus were on sale, these were exceptions?
And, can you mix and match the armor between bots?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 21st, 2019 @ 6:57pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:But yesterday, all tfs at toysrus were on sale, these were exceptions?
And, can you mix and match the armor between bots?
The price was marked 19.99$ in bold black on the shelf without any sales labels.
As for the armors...
Well, I say they are 75% compatible. The threads of the vehicles are clearly meant to fit the legs of their specific bots that have different leg wings. So the thread can only rest in front of the wing rather than the wing going inside the thread. The shoulder/mask/chest part is 100% compatible.
As for looks, Starscream look way better with Jetfire's armor.
Posted by LE0KING on June 21st, 2019 @ 7:39pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:But yesterday, all tfs at toysrus were on sale, these were exceptions?
And, can you mix and match the armor between bots?
The price was marked 19.99$ in bold black on the shelf without any sales labels.
As for the armors...
Well, I say they are 75% compatible. The threads of the vehicles are clearly meant to fit the legs of their specific bots that have different leg wings. So the thread can only rest in front of the wing rather than the wing going inside the thread. The shoulder/mask/chest part is 100% compatible.
As for looks, Starscream look way better with Jetfire's armor.
I'm hoping to use this jetfire instead of iron factory's super expensive legends scale one. Any chance of a comparison with a legends scale figure?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 21st, 2019 @ 8:04pm CDT
LE0KING wrote:I'm hoping to use this jetfire instead of iron factory's super expensive legends scale one. Any chance of a comparison with a legends scale figure?
Here you go my friend.
Jetfire is a pretty solid toy on it's own, but if you have a fancy 3P scout display/collection, he will be out of place with his limited paint aps, limited articulation points, and especially his hollow back.
But in a normal legion legend collection/display? That Jetfire will ROCK.
Posted by LE0KING on June 21st, 2019 @ 8:08pm CDT
This is definitely on my buy list now.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 21st, 2019 @ 8:14pm CDT
LE0KING wrote:That is perfect. Thank you very much.
This is definitely on my buy list now.
You won't regret it.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 23rd, 2019 @ 10:19am CDT
This Optimus got a lot of people excited with his reveal, seeing as how he is a very big and seemingly very posable (for Cyberverse) figure that comes with a miniature Ark figure that forms some pretty wicked armor for him. Well in Ham-Man's review, we get some interesting insights into this figure. While the arms are carrying a standard articulation package that we are used to, with full posability minus a wrist joint, the legs are very basic. The only bit of articulation in the legs at all is a small amount of front to back and some sideways movement at the thigh. There are no knee joints on this figure, and the legs don't compress for truck mode either, leaving us with some very lame and basic legs.
The Ark armor does make for a very nice figure though, but the front of the Ark that forms the head and chest armor can be a bit fragile and difficult, so be careful with those bits.
Check out the review below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Posted by Skritz on June 23rd, 2019 @ 10:49am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 23rd, 2019 @ 11:43am CDT
Skritz wrote:What is it with Cyberverse allergy to articulation?
I don't know, but that is so dumb to not have knees or collapsing legs on a guy that big
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 23rd, 2019 @ 11:46am CDT
Skritz wrote:What is it with Cyberverse allergy to articulation?
To increase sturdiness of the figures, like back in G1 post 1986
Anyway, now TakaraTomy has finally decided to release Cyberverse according to scans in Figure King #257. And needless to say, having every character in every size class makes the lineup a tad messy, especially with the One-Steps:
TCV-01 Turbo Change Bumblebee: new-mold One-Step Bumblebee
TCV-02 Turbo Change Optimus Prime: new-mold One-Step Optimus Prime
TCV-03 Wing Slicer Windblade: Warrior Class Windblade
TCV-04 Launcher Strike Starscream: Ultra Class Starscream
TCV-05 Stinger Sword Bumblebee: Ultimate Class Bumblebee (What? Why not the Warrior one? )
TCV-06 Matrix Attack Optimus Prime: Ultimate Class Optimus Prime
TCV-07 Fusion Cannon Megatron: Ultimate Class Megatron
TCV-08 Turbo Change Megatron: second One-Step Changer Megatron
TCV-09 Turbo Change Wheeljack: One-Step Changer Wheeljack
TCV-10 Burning Flame Grimlock: Ultra Class Grimlock
Posted by william-james88 on June 25th, 2019 @ 10:49pm CDT
Posted by Stargrave on June 25th, 2019 @ 11:02pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 25th, 2019 @ 11:07pm CDT
Skybyte is a fan favourite and it’s fun to see non G1 characters in this heavy G1 based line. His design is very much RID Skybyte, and it uses the Generations idea of having the shark head be the chest. The robot mode looks good and has a lot of the articulation you would expect from a legends class figure. I would of course prefer more hip rotation (not always present on this class) and it’s too bad the head does not move. The head sculpt is very nice though with the right paint apps on the robot and shark heads. My biggest issue though is with one of the plastics used. The light blue plastic is excellent. It’s a gorgeous and glossy blue that I don’t think we have ever seen used on a TF before. It feels very sturdy, along with the yellow. But the dark blue plastic is the kind I just hate. It’s the very cheap light KO type. The one where you see the sprue circles and that feels rough. It’s really too bad that they use this plastic on his arms.
The armor is fine but doesn’t really do anything for me. The big drill is not tightly latched onto the smaller vehicle and while the transformation into armor is neat, there isn’t really anything cool about it aside from the helmet. The drill tank threads don’t look good as armour, since there is no weapon element to them. This is a far cry from the clear armour we had with the RID battlepacks.
The armour is interchangeable with the other smaller bots since it’s just 5mm based. Here is a mash up with Prowl’s armour.
The Transformation to shark mode is great. I really like how the legs are just the right shape to become the shark body. It’s the perfect complexity for a toy this size. As for the shark mode though, it’s too bad the lower jaw doesn’t really look like a jaw and not everything tabs in properly. There are still 5 mm ports in this mode so you can plug in weapons as you wish.
In the end, while I like the look of the base figure and I am glad the gimmick is far from as obtrusive as other gimmicks in the Cyberverse line, I don’t think it adds much either. With the Siege line you can take it or leave it, but with these the armour comes with the toy so you pay extra for an aspect that you may not care for.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 25th, 2019 @ 11:23pm CDT
Posted by Lunatic Prime on June 26th, 2019 @ 2:59am CDT
Maybe we'll get some good Cyberverse figures in the end. Only got the Battle Base Trailer so far (for my SIEGE OP). The rest of the line to this point is not my cup of tea. Warrior Soundwave and Shockwave look pretty good in their bot modes at least but I have too many way cooler Soundys and Shockys and I was thinking about getting Ultra class Bumblebee and Shadowstriker only for their alt modes but gladly I ended up realizing that they are not worth it and I'm at the point now where my collection is big enough that I only want to buy figures that I really want.
And third of this line to me will be Elite class Cheetor.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 26th, 2019 @ 4:40am CDT
Posted by Dr. Caelus on June 26th, 2019 @ 7:54am CDT
Lunatic Prime wrote:Maybe we'll get some good Cyberverse figures in the end. Only got the Battle Base Trailer so far (for my SIEGE OP).
How does that work??
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 26th, 2019 @ 8:01am CDT
Posted by Lunatic Prime on June 26th, 2019 @ 8:09am CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Maybe we'll get some good Cyberverse figures in the end. Only got the Battle Base Trailer so far (for my SIEGE OP).
How does that work??
You mean the Battle Base Trailer for SIEGE OP?
But it's not as good in reality as it looks in this picture. The angle the picture was taken from is pretty charming for what's actually going on. In theory just flip up his feet and "peg" the trailer ontop of them. But then the front of the trailer sits too high so it's at an angle. What I want to do now is remove the sides of the part where the feet "peg" in.
Posted by william-james88 on June 26th, 2019 @ 9:04am CDT
Lunatic Prime wrote:But it's not as good in reality as it looks in this picture.
eeesh, and that pic doesnt even look good
Posted by william-james88 on June 26th, 2019 @ 9:32am CDT
I will start by saying that at least this toy looks better than the warrior class which has a very out of proportion chest. However, aside from getting a G1 styled prowl in pseudo legends class, there isn’t much to love here. The articulation is much more limited than Skybytes since the knees are more for transformation than for posing and the arms don’t have a bicep curl due to them being on a hinge rather than a ball joint. At least I have no issues with the plastic used, as I did with Skybyte.
I prefer his little drone buddy over Skybyte’s. It makes for better armour since the sleek cybertronian ship offers the armour a better look and added weaponry for the arms. The helmet you get out of it is fun for Prowl. Also, the armour has some poseable shoulder cannons, giving homage to the classic Datsun staple.
The armour is interchangeable with the other smaller bots since it’s just 5mm based. Here is a mash up with Skybyte’s armour.
The Transformation to police car is one we have seen countless times. It’s basically the same we got for the Cyberbattalion Prowl. It doesn’t feel as simple in this size class though, but it feels as unimaginative. It’s hard to get excited from another police car alt mode though I must add the sad note that there is black plastic that clashes with the white. It’s the same problem we have been seeing since the Dead End mold.
In the end, I find it too bad that the articulation is lacking here. It could have made up for the lackluster transformation. I do like the little armour partner buddy though, it works much better than Skybyte’s. Still, this is a very standard figure for Prowl that doesn’t add much to the character’s legacy apart from the armour.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on June 26th, 2019 @ 9:57am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:But it's not as good in reality as it looks in this picture.
eeesh, and that pic doesnt even look good
Not by default, no. But if you want to mod him so his legs fit completely under the trailer feel free to do so. But I can tell you right now you will have to remove the gimmick of the spring-loaded cannons.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 26th, 2019 @ 5:21pm CDT
BTW, Will, are you getting Starscream and Jetfire?
Maybe not Starscream but Jetfire is really, really good and you shouldn't miss out.
Posted by william-james88 on June 26th, 2019 @ 5:29pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm going to skip on Prowl but I'll definitely getting Skybite.
BTW, Will, are you getting Starscream and Jetfire?
Maybe not Starscream but Jetfire is really, really good and you shouldn't miss out.
Yeah, but I will wait for a discount. $20 CAD is expensive. The RID Battlepacks were $15 and those toys were better.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 26th, 2019 @ 7:00pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm going to skip on Prowl but I'll definitely getting Skybite.
BTW, Will, are you getting Starscream and Jetfire?
Maybe not Starscream but Jetfire is really, really good and you shouldn't miss out.
Yeah, but I will wait for a discount. $20 CAD is expensive. The RID Battlepacks were $15 and those toys were better.
It depend. I didn't really liked the overkill of tiny parts. Still that Grimlock was pretty damn awesome. Also, first wave of the Armor guys. Chance for plenty of stocks with the sales that go with them are pretty high.
I'm still not waiting for Sky-Bite though. Having known I would have looked deeper in the shelves. I was in a hurry when I took Screamers and Jetfire.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 26th, 2019 @ 7:33pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm going to skip on Prowl but I'll definitely getting Skybite.
BTW, Will, are you getting Starscream and Jetfire?
Maybe not Starscream but Jetfire is really, really good and you shouldn't miss out.
Yeah, but I will wait for a discount. $20 CAD is expensive. The RID Battlepacks were $15 and those toys were better.
It depend. I didn't really liked the overkill of tiny parts. Still that Grimlock was pretty damn awesome. Also, first wave of the Armor guys. Chance for plenty of stocks with the sales that go with them are pretty high.
I'm still not waiting for Sky-Bite though. Having known I would have looked deeper in the shelves. I was in a hurry when I took Screamers and Jetfire.
The RiD battle packs were great, Grimlock and Sideswipe were both really enjoyable and I am glad to have both.
I may get Sky Byte, he looks pretty good
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 26th, 2019 @ 9:03pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 26th, 2019 @ 9:11pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm looking forward to all of these. I don't expect giant robots of war to do diving dog or other yoga poses and I've liked most of cyberverse.
It's downward dog.
Posted by Stargrave on June 26th, 2019 @ 9:13pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on June 27th, 2019 @ 5:39am CDT
00Stargrave00 wrote:Just finish it off with a DDP Yoga Diamond Cutter and no one will know you’re faking it...
Emerje
Posted by Stargrave on June 27th, 2019 @ 9:22am CDT
Emerje wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:Just finish it off with a DDP Yoga Diamond Cutter and no one will know you’re faking it...
Emerje
Posted by bacem on June 27th, 2019 @ 10:42am CDT
Posted by Lunatic Prime on June 27th, 2019 @ 10:47am CDT
bacem wrote:Got this from transfans facebook page. Really digging this, and he seems to have decent articulation too,,including neck swivel. Probably gonna use him as a filler on my chug shelf.
He looks great. It's just a pity that his arms can't be hidden in the armor's ones.
Do we have a release date yet?
Posted by Stargrave on June 27th, 2019 @ 10:48am CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 27th, 2019 @ 1:00pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 27th, 2019 @ 6:26pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 27th, 2019 @ 6:57pm CDT
Just a smidge taller than your typical Legends class figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:How big that Cheetor will be?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 27th, 2019 @ 7:01pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Just a smidge taller than your typical Legends class figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:How big that Cheetor will be?
Like the others you mean? I thought it would be deluxe or even voyager sized.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 27th, 2019 @ 7:04pm CDT
Is it not the same class as the other Spark Armor figures (sans the big Optimus that comes with the Ark)?-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Just a smidge taller than your typical Legends class figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:How big that Cheetor will be?
Like the others you mean? I thought it would be deluxe or even voyager sized.
EDIT: I missed that it is indeed a bigger size class. Whoops.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on June 27th, 2019 @ 7:22pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Is it not the same class as the other Spark Armor figures (sans the big Optimus that comes with the Ark)?-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Just a smidge taller than your typical Legends class figure.-Kanrabat- wrote:How big that Cheetor will be?
Like the others you mean? I thought it would be deluxe or even voyager sized.
EDIT: I missed that it is indeed a bigger size class. Whoops.
According to TFWIKI.net:
Battle Class
In a similar size to previous Scout assortments, but with a full alternate mode and articulation, these figures possess small vehicles that split apart into armor.
Elite Class
Similar to Battle Class, but the Elite Class, with Warrior Class sized figures, is set apart by the armor being one single transformable unit, rather than separate pieces like Battle Class.
Ark Power
Ark Power Optimus is the size of a Leader Class figure, and has battle armor which can be assembled into a ship resembling the Ark.
But I've watched a video review of Ark Power Optimus Prime and he's way bigger than regular Leader class
EDIT:
And as Cheetor has the same Spark Armor as Bumblebee it's "pretty likely" that he's Elite class.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 27th, 2019 @ 8:01pm CDT
Also need to check out and see when the Scraplets are set to hit, I want to get a few of those
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 28th, 2019 @ 11:54am CDT
Posted by Lunatic Prime on June 28th, 2019 @ 12:17pm CDT
I already checked the pictures we have so far if it would be possible to give him the wheels in alt mode but unfortunately not in a useful way.
But still nice to see that. Could you post a picture from the front or at an 45° angle, please?
Maybe the armor at least looks cool in alt mode.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 28th, 2019 @ 1:29pm CDT
Posted by Lunatic Prime on June 28th, 2019 @ 1:36pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Another configuration. The wheels and top part barely peg in and hang on for dear life.
But it's a cybernetic shark with a battering ram
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 28th, 2019 @ 4:43pm CDT