First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron
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Collider interviewed Lorenzo di Bonaventura about the upcoming 2024 animated Transformers film, where he is one of the main producers. The movie will take place entirely on Cybertron where we will see much younger versions of characters like Optimus Prime and Megatron. While we haven't had this much info on the film before, it is well on the way, along with its toyline. Here is what Lorenzo had to say:
"I could tell you really important parts of this story, which is more than a tease. This is something we were trying to do; we debated a lot about it in live action, and it just was financially impossible to do, which is, the origin story of young Megatron and young Optimus. If you know the origin, they started as friends, and over time things devolved for them and they ended up on two sides. So we're telling the young Optimus and the young Megatron story. We really are telling the origin story of all Transformers, both what they were at the beginning of it, to how they grow, to how they grow apart."
"We’re hoping that there is enough emotional construct to that, that would lead to a trilogy of it because, personally, I think there's a natural trilogy. I'm not always looking to do multiple movies, but there's a natural trilogy around their relationship. So, you're going to see Cybertron in a way you've never seen it, that no one's ever seen it before. Because we're doing an animation, we're allowed to really go all out. If you tried to make this live-action, it would probably be a billion-dollar movie or something."
"You're going to see a lot of the origins of the society, and what broke it apart. The analogy for me is a bit like Krypton when you saw the planet falling apart, and all that. We're not there for a short time, we're there the entire time of the movie, we're on Cybertron, but we are in the challenge that, if you know the lore, they begin to question the hierarchy of how their society has gotten stratified, and how the common man doesn't have the voice, entirely, that they want to have. We're following very true to the origin story of it, and so it's really fun, too, because I've gotten to see some of it – it's not fully executed by any stretch of the imagination, but hearing Optimus and Megatron not as who we know them as, which we see their maturation in this experience. So, in a sense, you're hearing a different character because you're hearing them before they have matured."
"It's not a coming-of-age story. I don't think you’d believe that, in a way, but I would say they're young men who are finding their path. Like I said, it's more than a tease, that's what the story is, and that's the experience you're going to go through. And how they question society, just like all of us, too, could question our society. We’re maybe not as strong as Megatron and Optimus, so maybe we wouldn't make the same choices, but I think it's really going to be an eye-opener for the fans. For the non-fans, you're going to get to meet the characters in their early formation."
"I would say this, we don't spend a lot of time thinking about two and three because it's always hard to do one well. But there is a natural trilogy coming out of this friendship where you can see the divisions and the possible attractions to each other, and why that should play out over three movies, is very natural. So we have a good sense in the broadest terms, but in the broadest terms, we know what the second movie would be about and the third movie would be about through the eyes of what this relationship's going through. So the exact plotting, we haven't worked on that, but how that relationship evolves, devolves, evolves, devolves, all that stuff, that's what's going to drive it if we get lucky, if the first one's a success."
"I could tell you really important parts of this story, which is more than a tease. This is something we were trying to do; we debated a lot about it in live action, and it just was financially impossible to do, which is, the origin story of young Megatron and young Optimus. If you know the origin, they started as friends, and over time things devolved for them and they ended up on two sides. So we're telling the young Optimus and the young Megatron story. We really are telling the origin story of all Transformers, both what they were at the beginning of it, to how they grow, to how they grow apart."
"We’re hoping that there is enough emotional construct to that, that would lead to a trilogy of it because, personally, I think there's a natural trilogy. I'm not always looking to do multiple movies, but there's a natural trilogy around their relationship. So, you're going to see Cybertron in a way you've never seen it, that no one's ever seen it before. Because we're doing an animation, we're allowed to really go all out. If you tried to make this live-action, it would probably be a billion-dollar movie or something."
"You're going to see a lot of the origins of the society, and what broke it apart. The analogy for me is a bit like Krypton when you saw the planet falling apart, and all that. We're not there for a short time, we're there the entire time of the movie, we're on Cybertron, but we are in the challenge that, if you know the lore, they begin to question the hierarchy of how their society has gotten stratified, and how the common man doesn't have the voice, entirely, that they want to have. We're following very true to the origin story of it, and so it's really fun, too, because I've gotten to see some of it – it's not fully executed by any stretch of the imagination, but hearing Optimus and Megatron not as who we know them as, which we see their maturation in this experience. So, in a sense, you're hearing a different character because you're hearing them before they have matured."
"It's not a coming-of-age story. I don't think you’d believe that, in a way, but I would say they're young men who are finding their path. Like I said, it's more than a tease, that's what the story is, and that's the experience you're going to go through. And how they question society, just like all of us, too, could question our society. We’re maybe not as strong as Megatron and Optimus, so maybe we wouldn't make the same choices, but I think it's really going to be an eye-opener for the fans. For the non-fans, you're going to get to meet the characters in their early formation."
"I would say this, we don't spend a lot of time thinking about two and three because it's always hard to do one well. But there is a natural trilogy coming out of this friendship where you can see the divisions and the possible attractions to each other, and why that should play out over three movies, is very natural. So we have a good sense in the broadest terms, but in the broadest terms, we know what the second movie would be about and the third movie would be about through the eyes of what this relationship's going through. So the exact plotting, we haven't worked on that, but how that relationship evolves, devolves, evolves, devolves, all that stuff, that's what's going to drive it if we get lucky, if the first one's a success."
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Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159811)
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 9:37am CDT
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 9:37am CDT
Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159812)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 21st, 2023 @ 9:47am CDT
It sounds similar to how IDW handled it, which I enjoyed. The Trilogy idea he mentions basically makes me believe that we want see Optimus and Megs come to proper blows till the 3rd movie, which could be interesting, or fail. Still, nice to see more being done with it given how little we hear on it.
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 21st, 2023 @ 9:47am CDT
First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It sounds similar to how IDW handled it, which I enjoyed. The Trilogy idea he mentions basically makes me believe that we want see Optimus and Megs come to proper blows till the 3rd movie, which could be interesting, or fail. Still, nice to see more being done with it given how little we hear on it.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159815)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on April 21st, 2023 @ 9:58am CDT
I mean, as a prequel to a series about a millennia long war, I’d be puzzled if there wasn’t some kind of political element to it. Intergalactic wars don’t just happen in a vacuum (wink)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on April 21st, 2023 @ 9:58am CDT
First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
I mean, as a prequel to a series about a millennia long war, I’d be puzzled if there wasn’t some kind of political element to it. Intergalactic wars don’t just happen in a vacuum (wink)
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159816)
Posted by griftimus prime on April 21st, 2023 @ 10:34am CDT
Posted by griftimus prime on April 21st, 2023 @ 10:34am CDT
pre war?
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159818)
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 10:52am CDT
As long as it doesn't get preachy. I miss the days when movies were all about entertainment and didn't have to have a specifically "relevant" political view. The poor writing and getting overly preachy was part of what ruined Jodie Whitaker's run as The Doctor. TV and Movies are an escape for us, there doesn't need to be a "real world relevancy" to the fiction they are telling despite what the writers of pretty much every movie and show think right now.
Tell a good, well-developed story. Don't get preachy about your politics. Make money. The End.
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 10:52am CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
I mean, as a prequel to a series about a millennia long war, I’d be puzzled if there wasn’t some kind of political element to it. Intergalactic wars don’t just happen in a vacuum (wink)
As long as it doesn't get preachy. I miss the days when movies were all about entertainment and didn't have to have a specifically "relevant" political view. The poor writing and getting overly preachy was part of what ruined Jodie Whitaker's run as The Doctor. TV and Movies are an escape for us, there doesn't need to be a "real world relevancy" to the fiction they are telling despite what the writers of pretty much every movie and show think right now.
Tell a good, well-developed story. Don't get preachy about your politics. Make money. The End.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159820)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 21st, 2023 @ 11:00am CDT
Considering this pitch, is that supposed to be ironic?
Overly humanising and riffing off of IDW, then? This seems so incredibly safe and generic.
Just animate Megatron:Origin. There's your Pre-War Cybertron story done in one. It gives both Pax and Megs their character arcs and ideological differences. Without undue padding.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 21st, 2023 @ 11:00am CDT
So, you're going to see Cybertron in a way you've never seen it, that no one's ever seen it before.
Considering this pitch, is that supposed to be ironic?
"and how the common man doesn't have the voice"
"but I would say they're young men who are finding their path."
Overly humanising and riffing off of IDW, then? This seems so incredibly safe and generic.
Just animate Megatron:Origin. There's your Pre-War Cybertron story done in one. It gives both Pax and Megs their character arcs and ideological differences. Without undue padding.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159823)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2023 @ 11:43am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2023 @ 11:43am CDT
You guys do remember that it was the first live-action movie and its tie-in comics (Movie Prequel, Defiance, and Foundation, specifically) that started the idea of Optimus and Megatron as former friends and "brothers" who had a falling out when the war started, right?
It was then the Aligned media (particularly the Exodus novel and flashbacks in the Prime cartoon) that fleshed out this idea into a full-fledged backstory, which IDW, Cyberverse, and the Netflix WFCT cartoon only took afterward.
This description just sounds like it's gonna be yet another version of that backstory.
It was then the Aligned media (particularly the Exodus novel and flashbacks in the Prime cartoon) that fleshed out this idea into a full-fledged backstory, which IDW, Cyberverse, and the Netflix WFCT cartoon only took afterward.
This description just sounds like it's gonna be yet another version of that backstory.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159826)
Posted by william-james88 on April 21st, 2023 @ 12:01pm CDT
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
Posted by william-james88 on April 21st, 2023 @ 12:01pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159830)
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 12:38pm CDT
I understand that completely. The original G1 cartoon was good vs evil, freedom vs domination. Eventually they added the aspect of freeing from slavery (the QUintessons). That said, my worry is that it's going to be OVERLY preachy, trying to sell the viewer on the views (whether left or right) of the writer/director/producer and thus destroy the quality of the entertainment.
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 12:38pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
I understand that completely. The original G1 cartoon was good vs evil, freedom vs domination. Eventually they added the aspect of freeing from slavery (the QUintessons). That said, my worry is that it's going to be OVERLY preachy, trying to sell the viewer on the views (whether left or right) of the writer/director/producer and thus destroy the quality of the entertainment.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159834)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 21st, 2023 @ 1:25pm CDT
The whole premise of Transformers from the outset was an embittered Civil War. Although initially Sunbow dumbed down adjusted their series for kids, presenting this war in the simplest way possible. We are several decades passed that now. Objectively, in a conflict spanning millions of years, there is no "good vs. evil".
There is no sugar coating what a Civil War is. What it means. Just seeing the franchise at the base G1 level of "toys being smashed together" is naiveté to the very narrative of the source material. That's why Megatron: Origin worked. Why I think it would hit all the right notes for what this "unique" pitch wants to stretch into three films.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 21st, 2023 @ 1:25pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
I understand that completely. The original G1 cartoon was good vs evil, freedom vs domination. Eventually they added the aspect of freeing from slavery (the QUintessons). That said, my worry is that it's going to be OVERLY preachy, trying to sell the viewer on the views (whether left or right) of the writer/director/producer and thus destroy the quality of the entertainment.
The whole premise of Transformers from the outset was an embittered Civil War. Although initially Sunbow dumbed down adjusted their series for kids, presenting this war in the simplest way possible. We are several decades passed that now. Objectively, in a conflict spanning millions of years, there is no "good vs. evil".
There is no sugar coating what a Civil War is. What it means. Just seeing the franchise at the base G1 level of "toys being smashed together" is naiveté to the very narrative of the source material. That's why Megatron: Origin worked. Why I think it would hit all the right notes for what this "unique" pitch wants to stretch into three films.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159839)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 1:48pm CDT
First Aid talked about the woke/cultist politics like every isms under the sun, pronoms shenanigans, and weird sex stuff. Those are way too current year and USA centric. If those are in, these will make a cringe and bad movie.
The universal politics like civil war, defending freedom, corruption, betrayals, all those things that are part of stories told since millennia are UNIVERSAL and can stand the test of time. Usually, such stories, in the hands of competent writers who have actual life experience, can become classics that can remain relevant forever.
There's around 10000 years of written and told stories that proves it.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 1:48pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:First-Aid wrote:william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
I understand that completely. The original G1 cartoon was good vs evil, freedom vs domination. Eventually they added the aspect of freeing from slavery (the QUintessons). That said, my worry is that it's going to be OVERLY preachy, trying to sell the viewer on the views (whether left or right) of the writer/director/producer and thus destroy the quality of the entertainment.
The whole premise of Transformers from the outset was an embittered Civil War. Although initially Sunbow dumbed down adjusted their series for kids, presenting this war in the simplest way possible. We are several decades passed that now. Objectively, in a conflict spanning millions of years, there is no "good vs. evil".
There is no sugar coating what a Civil War is. What it means. Just seeing the franchise at the base G1 level of "toys being smashed together" is naiveté to the very narrative of the source material. That's why Megatron: Origin worked. Why I think it would hit all the right notes for what this "unique" pitch wants to stretch into three films.
First Aid talked about the woke/cultist politics like every isms under the sun, pronoms shenanigans, and weird sex stuff. Those are way too current year and USA centric. If those are in, these will make a cringe and bad movie.
The universal politics like civil war, defending freedom, corruption, betrayals, all those things that are part of stories told since millennia are UNIVERSAL and can stand the test of time. Usually, such stories, in the hands of competent writers who have actual life experience, can become classics that can remain relevant forever.
There's around 10000 years of written and told stories that proves it.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159840)
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:03pm CDT
You explained it better than I did. Thanks, bro.
Incidentally, this isn't just about "woke". I don't give a rats a$$ which direction the writer leans. I don't want to see their political views interfering with the movie. Like Optimus being converted to a female Autobot at some point or Ironhide being a card-carrying NRA member or whatever. Leave that shtuff out and tell us about Transformers.
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:03pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:First-Aid wrote:william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
I understand that completely. The original G1 cartoon was good vs evil, freedom vs domination. Eventually they added the aspect of freeing from slavery (the QUintessons). That said, my worry is that it's going to be OVERLY preachy, trying to sell the viewer on the views (whether left or right) of the writer/director/producer and thus destroy the quality of the entertainment.
The whole premise of Transformers from the outset was an embittered Civil War. Although initially Sunbow dumbed down adjusted their series for kids, presenting this war in the simplest way possible. We are several decades passed that now. Objectively, in a conflict spanning millions of years, there is no "good vs. evil".
There is no sugar coating what a Civil War is. What it means. Just seeing the franchise at the base G1 level of "toys being smashed together" is naiveté to the very narrative of the source material. That's why Megatron: Origin worked. Why I think it would hit all the right notes for what this "unique" pitch wants to stretch into three films.
First Aid talked about the woke/cultist politics like every isms under the sun, pronoms shenanigans, and weird sex stuff. Those are way too current year and USA centric. If those are in, these will make a cringe and bad movie.
The universal politics like civil war, defending freedom, corruption, betrayals, all those things that are part of stories told since millennia are UNIVERSAL and can stand the test of time. Usually, such stories, in the hands of competent writers who have actual life experience, can become classics that can remain relevant forever.
There's around 10000 years of written and told stories that proves it.
You explained it better than I did. Thanks, bro.
Incidentally, this isn't just about "woke". I don't give a rats a$$ which direction the writer leans. I don't want to see their political views interfering with the movie. Like Optimus being converted to a female Autobot at some point or Ironhide being a card-carrying NRA member or whatever. Leave that shtuff out and tell us about Transformers.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159842)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:12pm CDT
I see. That's why I wasn't really following. I guess it doesn't alleviate any concerns when the pitch refers to Prime and Megs as "young men".
Why is it so hard for people to see that Transformers are sentient alien robots? Use that as the foundation of your story. Without humanising to the point of making a story so generic it could be about anyone. Not specific to the Transformers.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:12pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote: Those are way too current year and USA centric.
I see. That's why I wasn't really following. I guess it doesn't alleviate any concerns when the pitch refers to Prime and Megs as "young men".
Why is it so hard for people to see that Transformers are sentient alien robots? Use that as the foundation of your story. Without humanising to the point of making a story so generic it could be about anyone. Not specific to the Transformers.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159844)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:15pm CDT
Oh God, this needs to happen. I'd laugh out loud so much!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:15pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Ironhide being a card-carrying NRA member
Oh God, this needs to happen. I'd laugh out loud so much!
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159846)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:21pm CDT
At least try to be original. I'm so very tired of reading the same thing over and over from you regularly.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:21pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Some Bolshevik
At least try to be original. I'm so very tired of reading the same thing over and over from you regularly.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159847)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:37pm CDT
Too bad you can't seem to accept basic truths and common sense.
Just get out of your comfort zone and look at the past year's biggest success VS the biggest flops just on the movie front.
Also, look at the movies that remain popular even decades after they are out. There's a common thread that link all of these successes. Meaning prioritising UNIVERSAL VALUES and ENTERTAINMENT.
What's so hard to understand about that?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:37pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Some Bolshevik
Too bad you can't seem to accept basic truths and common sense.
Just get out of your comfort zone and look at the past year's biggest success VS the biggest flops just on the movie front.
Also, look at the movies that remain popular even decades after they are out. There's a common thread that link all of these successes. Meaning prioritising UNIVERSAL VALUES and ENTERTAINMENT.
What's so hard to understand about that?
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159849)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:59pm CDT
Too bad you seem to regurgitate the same "woke" word in every post you ever post about fiction.
On the movie front, what has Ant man, Morbius, Shazam!, etc. had in common that makes them "woke"? nothing.
Biggest successes? Avatar 2 (visual trip), Maverick (nostalgia), Spider Man (arguably nostalgia here too).
As for some of the more memorable movies (and if you want, TV series too) of both past and present:
-Star Wars: the Rebellion was Vietnam, the Empire was the US, and Palpatine is Nixon. Stormtroopers were born of Nazi origin.
-John Wick 3: one of the main secondary characters is a non-binary, literally played no role in their part, they just existed, as non-binaries actually do.
-Avatar: it is literally the definition of anti-colonialism
-Avatar the Last Airbender: dictorship, colonialism, fascism
-Legend or Korra: main characters is a bisexual, bore no effect on the story, she just existed, as bisexuals do.
-Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous: 1 of the main 6 is a lesbian, the other a bisexual, it just happened, like any other romance, it was not the "big point" of the show, never was.
-Jurassic Park: literally the first movie established that the Dinosaurs switched genders to breed.
If you are talking about one of the main talking points of a movie or TV series involving LTBGQ+/fascism/etc. and it bears little part in the story, that is one thing.
But just having things exist? that really should not be a factor.
But i also know you, based on years of reading your BS. You will not watch Earthspark now thanks to Nightshade, despite the fact that this character was never advertised, it was a natural part of the show and it isn't made a big deal of, they just exist. So when you say what you say above, I know exactly what you mean.
Considering people can publically get into office holding nazi views in more than just the US, and worldwide many countries suppress or even outride genocide LTBTQ+ folks, folks of certain religions, etc., I'd hardly call a lot of these "here and now in the US only" problems. We are witnessing the rise of people that actively suppress others, while also witnessing old prejudices that we thought were mostly put to rest now rise to mainstream debate once more, when again they should be long dead.
And in the end, you can make a good show or movie that supports those views and is still memorable long after. Can you do it badly? yes, like you can anything. But can it work? again, like everything, it can.
And even if the original reason fades from public exposure (i.e. nixon and the Vietnam war), it can still serve as a warning for the future, as we currently see, history repeats itself.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 21st, 2023 @ 2:59pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Some Bolshevik
Too bad you can't seem to accept basic truths and common sense.
Just get out of your comfort zone and look at the past year's biggest success VS the biggest flops just on the movie front.
Also, look at the movies that remain popular even decades after they are out. There's a common thread that link all of these successes. Meaning prioritising UNIVERSAL VALUES and ENTERTAINMENT.
What's so hard to understand about that?
Too bad you seem to regurgitate the same "woke" word in every post you ever post about fiction.
On the movie front, what has Ant man, Morbius, Shazam!, etc. had in common that makes them "woke"? nothing.
Biggest successes? Avatar 2 (visual trip), Maverick (nostalgia), Spider Man (arguably nostalgia here too).
As for some of the more memorable movies (and if you want, TV series too) of both past and present:
-Star Wars: the Rebellion was Vietnam, the Empire was the US, and Palpatine is Nixon. Stormtroopers were born of Nazi origin.
-John Wick 3: one of the main secondary characters is a non-binary, literally played no role in their part, they just existed, as non-binaries actually do.
-Avatar: it is literally the definition of anti-colonialism
-Avatar the Last Airbender: dictorship, colonialism, fascism
-Legend or Korra: main characters is a bisexual, bore no effect on the story, she just existed, as bisexuals do.
-Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous: 1 of the main 6 is a lesbian, the other a bisexual, it just happened, like any other romance, it was not the "big point" of the show, never was.
-Jurassic Park: literally the first movie established that the Dinosaurs switched genders to breed.
If you are talking about one of the main talking points of a movie or TV series involving LTBGQ+/fascism/etc. and it bears little part in the story, that is one thing.
But just having things exist? that really should not be a factor.
But i also know you, based on years of reading your BS. You will not watch Earthspark now thanks to Nightshade, despite the fact that this character was never advertised, it was a natural part of the show and it isn't made a big deal of, they just exist. So when you say what you say above, I know exactly what you mean.
Considering people can publically get into office holding nazi views in more than just the US, and worldwide many countries suppress or even outride genocide LTBTQ+ folks, folks of certain religions, etc., I'd hardly call a lot of these "here and now in the US only" problems. We are witnessing the rise of people that actively suppress others, while also witnessing old prejudices that we thought were mostly put to rest now rise to mainstream debate once more, when again they should be long dead.
And in the end, you can make a good show or movie that supports those views and is still memorable long after. Can you do it badly? yes, like you can anything. But can it work? again, like everything, it can.
And even if the original reason fades from public exposure (i.e. nixon and the Vietnam war), it can still serve as a warning for the future, as we currently see, history repeats itself.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159850)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:25pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:25pm CDT
First you should know what "woke" means.
Woke is NOT, and I repeat, is NOT about being for LGBTQ rights, being anti racist, being feminist, and so on.
"Woke" is NOT about liberal values.
Woke is a shape-shifting cult that grab anything just to gain power. You can have an opinion that "the woke" will agree with today but next year, your same opinion will be "far right". The woke will make mountains out of molehills. They love to divide and conquer.
Have the classic Liberal Bill Maher explain it:
5 millions views and almost 15K comments.
Also, have Chris Gore, a pro Hollywood filmmaker, explaining why so much modern movies is now crap:
3 millions views and almost 25K comments.
I do hope this will help you understand.
Woke is NOT, and I repeat, is NOT about being for LGBTQ rights, being anti racist, being feminist, and so on.
"Woke" is NOT about liberal values.
Woke is a shape-shifting cult that grab anything just to gain power. You can have an opinion that "the woke" will agree with today but next year, your same opinion will be "far right". The woke will make mountains out of molehills. They love to divide and conquer.
Have the classic Liberal Bill Maher explain it:
5 millions views and almost 15K comments.
Also, have Chris Gore, a pro Hollywood filmmaker, explaining why so much modern movies is now crap:
3 millions views and almost 25K comments.
I do hope this will help you understand.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159851)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:36pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:36pm CDT
Read your statement before, same crap different day.
You are the one who uses woke all the time, and you almost exclusively do. You use it to describe something that makes you feel slightly uncomfortable or will take away from something you want to enjoy.
You base your opinions on videos that have lots of views and interaction, but that is not a good indicator of if they are right or actually helpful.
And you always use the same condescending tone when discussing it.
You have a pattern. You have been consistent. There is a reason your posts add nothing to the Transformers fiction threads.
This part is spoken both as a long time member, and as an admin.
And given I just helped you once again delay a thread to a place where it really should not be, needlessly because you have to get to your favorite real life talking points, I'm going to end it here so we can return to the potential movie, instead of the same crick in the neck.
You are the one who uses woke all the time, and you almost exclusively do. You use it to describe something that makes you feel slightly uncomfortable or will take away from something you want to enjoy.
You base your opinions on videos that have lots of views and interaction, but that is not a good indicator of if they are right or actually helpful.
And you always use the same condescending tone when discussing it.
You have a pattern. You have been consistent. There is a reason your posts add nothing to the Transformers fiction threads.
This part is spoken both as a long time member, and as an admin.
And given I just helped you once again delay a thread to a place where it really should not be, needlessly because you have to get to your favorite real life talking points, I'm going to end it here so we can return to the potential movie, instead of the same crick in the neck.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159852)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:41pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:41pm CDT
"You can lead a horse to the fountain, but you can't force it to drink."
So who's the horse?
You?
Me?
This is getting nowhere and having a dialogue de sourd is pointless. I said my opinion, you said yours, and that's that.
Now let's move on.
So who's the horse?
You?
Me?
This is getting nowhere and having a dialogue de sourd is pointless. I said my opinion, you said yours, and that's that.
Now let's move on.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159853)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:44pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:44pm CDT
As was said before, as long as it doesn't get preachy. I like backstory that IDW came up with for Pax and Megatron, my main concern is hopefully some other characters (mainly Shockwave, Magnus and Grimlock) will also be spotlighted.
As for the political debate, most (if not all) wars begin with political debates devolving into violence, regardless of what the subject is. I don't expect it to be different here.
Hopefully Hasbro and Paramount got decent writers and a capable director who has the franchise itself in mind, as opposed to what we're getting with RoTB.
As for the political debate, most (if not all) wars begin with political debates devolving into violence, regardless of what the subject is. I don't expect it to be different here.
Hopefully Hasbro and Paramount got decent writers and a capable director who has the franchise itself in mind, as opposed to what we're getting with RoTB.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159854)
Posted by william-james88 on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:48pm CDT
The biggest successes have been accused of forcing political values and wokeness as well. Right wing extremists were raging at the Super Mario Brothers movie for being woke since the person Mario has to save is Luigi instead of Peach and Peach is a girl boss in the film.
And Avatar has the whole white people as colonists are evil political message along with the message showing the evil of capitalism, two issues decried as woke, like in the following article: https://risk-monger.com/2022/12/15/avat ... lm-review/
I personally greatly disliked Avatar the Way of Water, not necessarily for the messages themselves but for how blatant the parable was. It really felt like an afterschool special given the most budget in the world (which I believe is exactly what it is).
In terms of TV, the biggest success so far this year is The last of Us which was panned by right wing critics (like Ben Shapiro) for being woke.
I know you previously stated that you don't find those messages to qualify as "woke", like with Wakanda Forever, but others did. In all theses cases, these "woke" movies made bank. In the end, it just proves that none of that matters if the story and film is popular with people (doesn't even have to be good).
Posted by william-james88 on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:48pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Just get out of your comfort zone and look at the past year's biggest success VS the biggest flops just on the movie front.
The biggest successes have been accused of forcing political values and wokeness as well. Right wing extremists were raging at the Super Mario Brothers movie for being woke since the person Mario has to save is Luigi instead of Peach and Peach is a girl boss in the film.
And Avatar has the whole white people as colonists are evil political message along with the message showing the evil of capitalism, two issues decried as woke, like in the following article: https://risk-monger.com/2022/12/15/avat ... lm-review/
I personally greatly disliked Avatar the Way of Water, not necessarily for the messages themselves but for how blatant the parable was. It really felt like an afterschool special given the most budget in the world (which I believe is exactly what it is).
In terms of TV, the biggest success so far this year is The last of Us which was panned by right wing critics (like Ben Shapiro) for being woke.
I know you previously stated that you don't find those messages to qualify as "woke", like with Wakanda Forever, but others did. In all theses cases, these "woke" movies made bank. In the end, it just proves that none of that matters if the story and film is popular with people (doesn't even have to be good).
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159855)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:55pm CDT
And I am going to say it officially now: your opinions regularly drive topics off track and usually involve regular breaks into a tried and true tirade that adds nothing meaningful to the discussion.
So, let me make this clear: you decide to go on a "woke" tirade again, or for that matter even decide to discuss the "wokeness" of a film, TF or not, you will not be welcomed back to the fiction forums.
It has bordered on the brink of trolling, and next time will be treated as such.
as I said in the post above yours: yes.
I agree with Rodimus Prime here, as I said in my long post: there is a difference between a good message and "preachy".
for more on that, I recommend the Dead Meat show, particularly the Tales from the Hood trilogy. He breaks down the difference between preachy and allegorical enjoyment.
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1RnjJd2c88
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgeYG_KroL4
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y1rK6USN7M
Thank you Will, this is what I would've wished I had brought up, but my finger isn't as to the pulse of the movie and TV series industry as yours
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 21st, 2023 @ 3:55pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:This is getting nowhere and having a dialogue de sourd is pointless. I said my opinion, you said yours, and that's that.
And I am going to say it officially now: your opinions regularly drive topics off track and usually involve regular breaks into a tried and true tirade that adds nothing meaningful to the discussion.
So, let me make this clear: you decide to go on a "woke" tirade again, or for that matter even decide to discuss the "wokeness" of a film, TF or not, you will not be welcomed back to the fiction forums.
It has bordered on the brink of trolling, and next time will be treated as such.
Now let's move on.
as I said in the post above yours: yes.
Rodimus Prime wrote:As was said before, as long as it doesn't get preachy. I like backstory that IDW came up with for Pax and Megatron, my main concern is hopefully some other characters (mainly Shockwave, Magnus and Grimlock) will also be spotlighted.
As for the political debate, most (if not all) wars begin with political debates devolving into violence, regardless of what the subject is. I don't expect it to be different here.
I agree with Rodimus Prime here, as I said in my long post: there is a difference between a good message and "preachy".
for more on that, I recommend the Dead Meat show, particularly the Tales from the Hood trilogy. He breaks down the difference between preachy and allegorical enjoyment.
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1RnjJd2c88
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgeYG_KroL4
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y1rK6USN7M
william-james88 wrote:good stuff
Thank you Will, this is what I would've wished I had brought up, but my finger isn't as to the pulse of the movie and TV series industry as yours
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159856)
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 4:06pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on April 21st, 2023 @ 4:06pm CDT
I had no idea my post was going to trigger this. To everyone, my apologies. I just wanted a little creativity and escapism. But I am exceptionally bad at explaining myself. I'm in healthcare and we tend to get really wordy. You should see my charting...
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159859)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2023 @ 4:53pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2023 @ 4:53pm CDT
Another thing I forgot earlier, LdB said they're producing this with a trilogy on mind, so I hope they don't screw up the 1st film in anticipation of telling the rest of it in the sequels and they don't get made due to poor financial reception, thus we get stuck with 1 half-assed story that barely makes any sense.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159861)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 5:07pm CDT
If they really want to make a trilogy, let's hope the writers and directors remains CONSISTENT.
Because otherwise, the chances that things turns sour could be high. Like for the Star Wars sequels Trilogy.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 21st, 2023 @ 5:07pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Another thing I forgot earlier, LdB said they're producing this with a trilogy on mind, so I hope they don't screw up the 1st film in anticipation of telling the rest of it in the sequels and they don't get made due to poor financial reception, thus we get stuck with 1 half-assed story that barely makes any sense.
If they really want to make a trilogy, let's hope the writers and directors remains CONSISTENT.
Because otherwise, the chances that things turns sour could be high. Like for the Star Wars sequels Trilogy.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159865)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2023 @ 6:01pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2023 @ 6:01pm CDT
Even the G1 cartoon was rooted in 1980s politics. The Decepticons raiding Earth for its resources and stealing energy was meant as a metaphor for the oil crisis that began in the late 1970s due to conflict in the Middle East, and whose effects were still being felt in the 1980s.
Heck, the Autobot/Decepticon war itself was also largely inspired by the tensions between the U.S. and the Soviet Union during the then-contemporary Cold War.
Heck, the Autobot/Decepticon war itself was also largely inspired by the tensions between the U.S. and the Soviet Union during the then-contemporary Cold War.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159893)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on April 22nd, 2023 @ 1:35am CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on April 22nd, 2023 @ 1:35am CDT
AAAAAAND the first 2-3 pages of comments on this post immediately fill up with what garbage we DON'T want to see. Wow, just imagine how much longer it'd be if those SJWs that people used to bitch about ever actually showed up! To keep the peace, we must stay...alert.
As for what one fan DOES want in this movie, there's a confrontation I've been waiting to see on the big screen since even before this project was announced: not a physical fight, but a shouting match between geezers. I want the high council of Iacon to include both Emirate Xaaron and Alpha Trion, who get in an argument over how to respond to the Decepticon threat; Xaaron wants a full on counterattack or preemptive strike before the 'Cons are at the gates, Trion's more concerned about securing Vector Sigma, the Matrix, and/or the Allspark for future generations before diverting their forces from the city, but they both end up agreeing that this Optimus fellow is the one guy they can hand command of the army to.
However, if they're pacing this out into a potential trilogy, the events I describe probably wouldn't occur until at least the end of Episode 2: The Cons of Wrath, so I might be SOL.
But if they're going to make the build-up to The Great War a complex enough political situation to fill 3 feature films, there is some merit to cramming in as much stuff as possible from the prehistory period of EVERY major continuity. I mean, if Sentinel and other 13-20 past Primes, The Overlord, the Guardians, and at least passing mentions of Primus, the Quintessons, Unicron...and even the Waruda, why not?...all play their part in a convoluted mess that young Orioptronix struggles to make sense out of while working 3 shifts a week as a dock worker, archivist, and gladiator, then it won't be possible to beat anyone over the head with any overly simplistic moral, now will it?
Life's complicated. That's why multiple multiverses exist.
As for what one fan DOES want in this movie, there's a confrontation I've been waiting to see on the big screen since even before this project was announced: not a physical fight, but a shouting match between geezers. I want the high council of Iacon to include both Emirate Xaaron and Alpha Trion, who get in an argument over how to respond to the Decepticon threat; Xaaron wants a full on counterattack or preemptive strike before the 'Cons are at the gates, Trion's more concerned about securing Vector Sigma, the Matrix, and/or the Allspark for future generations before diverting their forces from the city, but they both end up agreeing that this Optimus fellow is the one guy they can hand command of the army to.
However, if they're pacing this out into a potential trilogy, the events I describe probably wouldn't occur until at least the end of Episode 2: The Cons of Wrath, so I might be SOL.
But if they're going to make the build-up to The Great War a complex enough political situation to fill 3 feature films, there is some merit to cramming in as much stuff as possible from the prehistory period of EVERY major continuity. I mean, if Sentinel and other 13-20 past Primes, The Overlord, the Guardians, and at least passing mentions of Primus, the Quintessons, Unicron...and even the Waruda, why not?...all play their part in a convoluted mess that young Orioptronix struggles to make sense out of while working 3 shifts a week as a dock worker, archivist, and gladiator, then it won't be possible to beat anyone over the head with any overly simplistic moral, now will it?
Life's complicated. That's why multiple multiverses exist.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159897)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 22nd, 2023 @ 7:47am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 22nd, 2023 @ 7:47am CDT
The elephant in the room: What is this an origin for?
A new Aligned-style continuity for the franchise?
A new film series?
A new show?
A new Aligned-style continuity for the franchise?
A new film series?
A new show?
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159898)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 22nd, 2023 @ 8:53am CDT
Originally it was supposed to be an origin story for the live action film series. I can still see that being the case. Continuity between films has never been their focus. While lt may be preferable, I wouldn't be surprised if it was billed as a true origin story to the 07 movie.
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 22nd, 2023 @ 8:53am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The elephant in the room: What is this an origin for?
A new Aligned-style continuity for the franchise?
A new film series?
A new show?
Originally it was supposed to be an origin story for the live action film series. I can still see that being the case. Continuity between films has never been their focus. While lt may be preferable, I wouldn't be surprised if it was billed as a true origin story to the 07 movie.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159902)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 22nd, 2023 @ 9:25am CDT
If that's the case, it will be quite the challenge to make something truly good. The Bay series stories are all over the place. Plus the "Bee" and "Bay" styles clash. If that animated movie can thread all these different and random patches into a nice and comfy patchwork blanket, I will be impressed.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 22nd, 2023 @ 9:25am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The elephant in the room: What is this an origin for?
A new Aligned-style continuity for the franchise?
A new film series?
A new show?
Originally it was supposed to be an origin story for the live action film series. I can still see that being the case. Continuity between films has never been their focus. While lt may be preferable, I wouldn't be surprised if it was billed as a true origin story to the 07 movie.
If that's the case, it will be quite the challenge to make something truly good. The Bay series stories are all over the place. Plus the "Bee" and "Bay" styles clash. If that animated movie can thread all these different and random patches into a nice and comfy patchwork blanket, I will be impressed.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2159959)
Posted by bluecatcinema on April 23rd, 2023 @ 2:26pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on April 23rd, 2023 @ 2:26pm CDT
Now this is interesting. Let's hope the story can deliver...
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160054)
Posted by TulioDude on April 25th, 2023 @ 5:55pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on April 25th, 2023 @ 5:55pm CDT
I made this thread a while ago to ask people what they wanted out the movie, I will say more things I want out of it now
what-do-you-want-out-of-transformers-one--t119317.php
I want this movie to be part of the live action movie series,it would be more fun to have these films to add story to the existing universe, rather than have to start another one.
The continuity can work and we have examples of that in previous Transformers stories. We had cartoons,comics and toy bios that don't always match, but are still part of the same overarching story.
I hope they keep Optimus backround as data clerk/librarian. I think the IDW comics had some some good ideas on pre-war Cybertron, but I'dont like when Autobots already exist during this time, with Optimus being a security officer.
what-do-you-want-out-of-transformers-one--t119317.php
I want this movie to be part of the live action movie series,it would be more fun to have these films to add story to the existing universe, rather than have to start another one.
The continuity can work and we have examples of that in previous Transformers stories. We had cartoons,comics and toy bios that don't always match, but are still part of the same overarching story.
I hope they keep Optimus backround as data clerk/librarian. I think the IDW comics had some some good ideas on pre-war Cybertron, but I'dont like when Autobots already exist during this time, with Optimus being a security officer.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160233)
Posted by william-james88 on April 27th, 2023 @ 6:18pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 27th, 2023 @ 6:18pm CDT
Big day for Transformers fans thanks to the reveals at Cinemacon. Not only did we get a new trailer and a mega reveal, but we also have all the big name actors who will be lending their voices to the Transformers characters in next year's animated film. We also learnt this film's name, it will be called Transformers One. We got this info from Aaron Couch who attended the event. It is supposedly meant to be a general prequel to the live action films all seen as Bayverse but we'll need further clarification on that.
Here is the full cast:
Chris Hemsworth – Optimus Prime
Brian Tyree Henry – Megatron
Scarlett Johansson – Elita
Keegan-Michael Key – Bumblebee
Jon Hamm – Sentinel Prime
Laurence Fishburne – Alpha Trion
And yes, it seems Elita 1 is being renamed Elita, but once again we will need further clarification.
Here is the full cast:
Chris Hemsworth – Optimus Prime
Brian Tyree Henry – Megatron
Scarlett Johansson – Elita
Keegan-Michael Key – Bumblebee
Jon Hamm – Sentinel Prime
Laurence Fishburne – Alpha Trion
And yes, it seems Elita 1 is being renamed Elita, but once again we will need further clarification.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160234)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 27th, 2023 @ 6:22pm CDT
Oh LOL, gotta love Hollywood and their obsession to absolutely put big names to voice cartoons! Like Chris Pratt for Mario, Chris Hemsworth for Optimus is totally random.
At least, Laurence Fishburne as Alpha Trion makes sense.
Now for that first trailer...
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 27th, 2023 @ 6:22pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Chris Hemsworth – Optimus Prime
Brian Tyree Henry – Megatron
Scarlett Johansson – Elita
Keegan-Michael Key – Bumblebee
Jon Hamm – Sentinel Prime
Laurence Fishburne – Alpha Trion
Oh LOL, gotta love Hollywood and their obsession to absolutely put big names to voice cartoons! Like Chris Pratt for Mario, Chris Hemsworth for Optimus is totally random.
At least, Laurence Fishburne as Alpha Trion makes sense.
Now for that first trailer...
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160235)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 27th, 2023 @ 6:22pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 27th, 2023 @ 6:22pm CDT
Hemsworth? Interesting choice. The rest I'm good with, but that one is odd. May be if he's Orion Pax for most of the film and turns into Optimus at the end. If that's the case, hopefully Peter Cullen makes a cameo.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160242)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2023 @ 10:06pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 27th, 2023 @ 10:06pm CDT
I'm sure Peter Cullen ain't happy about getting passed over for Thor.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160247)
Posted by william-james88 on April 27th, 2023 @ 11:37pm CDT
I don't know, this one might be more labour intensive and with the CGI done by ILM and Prime possibly not having a faceplate most of the time, then it could be more demanding for Peter, who's getting on in age. At least he'd be ok with them not hiring non union. It will be like when they chose someone else over him for the last winnie the pooh film. He was dissapointed but not unhappy, more like "oh well".
Posted by william-james88 on April 27th, 2023 @ 11:37pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I'm sure Peter Cullen ain't happy about getting passed over for Thor.
I don't know, this one might be more labour intensive and with the CGI done by ILM and Prime possibly not having a faceplate most of the time, then it could be more demanding for Peter, who's getting on in age. At least he'd be ok with them not hiring non union. It will be like when they chose someone else over him for the last winnie the pooh film. He was dissapointed but not unhappy, more like "oh well".
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160248)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 28th, 2023 @ 12:14am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 28th, 2023 @ 12:14am CDT
Most likely it will be an improvement over what we got in the Netflix trilogy. Will he have an accent?Sabrblade wrote:I'm sure Peter Cullen ain't happy about getting passed over for Thor.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160255)
Posted by Fortress_Maximus on April 28th, 2023 @ 2:12am CDT
Sure miss Cullen's voice acting. But, if he passed or was passed over it is our loss. Doubt Hemsworth will bring as much range, but time flows forward. Hopefully, this will not be increasing trend.
Posted by Fortress_Maximus on April 28th, 2023 @ 2:12am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm sure Peter Cullen ain't happy about getting passed over for Thor.
I don't know, this one might be more labour intensive and with the CGI done by ILM and Prime possibly not having a faceplate most of the time, then it could be more demanding for Peter, who's getting on in age. At least he'd be ok with them not hiring non union. It will be like when they chose someone else over him for the last winnie the pooh film. He was dissapointed but not unhappy, more like "oh well".
Sure miss Cullen's voice acting. But, if he passed or was passed over it is our loss. Doubt Hemsworth will bring as much range, but time flows forward. Hopefully, this will not be increasing trend.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160262)
Posted by Apollo-XL5 on April 28th, 2023 @ 5:17am CDT
Posted by Apollo-XL5 on April 28th, 2023 @ 5:17am CDT
Could have been worse. Could have been Chris Pratt! XD
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160265)
Posted by snavej on April 28th, 2023 @ 5:27am CDT
Posted by snavej on April 28th, 2023 @ 5:27am CDT
If they make the lyrics more appropriate, they could use U2's 'One' as part of the soundtrack.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160267)
Posted by trailbreaker on April 28th, 2023 @ 7:12am CDT
Posted by trailbreaker on April 28th, 2023 @ 7:12am CDT
Chris Evans is a XXXXX.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160268)
Posted by muddyjoe on April 28th, 2023 @ 7:21am CDT
Or that giant XXXXX Chris Evans!
Posted by muddyjoe on April 28th, 2023 @ 7:21am CDT
Could have been worse. Could have been Chris Pratt! XD
Or that giant XXXXX Chris Evans!
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160272)
Posted by william-james88 on April 28th, 2023 @ 7:57am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 28th, 2023 @ 7:57am CDT
The Transformers franchise is big news this week with the reveal of Unicron in Rise of the Beasts and the announcement of the animated film's title and cast. We now have images of the presentation, posted on getty images, which show us the title card reveal and our first look at Cybertron. It is very colorful and we have outlines of the Autobots and Megatron. Elita has her very typical silhouette.
Enjoy!
Enjoy!
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160274)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 28th, 2023 @ 8:01am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 28th, 2023 @ 8:01am CDT
Trailbreaker, muddyjoe: Please do not use the d****e word here.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160276)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 28th, 2023 @ 8:02am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 28th, 2023 @ 8:02am CDT
That voice cast is extremely random outside of Lawrence Fishburne. I guess we will see what they give us.
I do know though, my Mom loves Chris Hemsworth, and freaked out at that casting.
I do know though, my Mom loves Chris Hemsworth, and freaked out at that casting.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160297)
Posted by griftimus prime on April 28th, 2023 @ 10:22am CDT
Posted by griftimus prime on April 28th, 2023 @ 10:22am CDT
no thanks. they cant even get the voice casting right and get cullen or chalk. no thanks
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160303)
Posted by Perceptor1996 on April 28th, 2023 @ 12:01pm CDT
Posted by Perceptor1996 on April 28th, 2023 @ 12:01pm CDT
Elita being in this movie makes me wonder if they'll do what I've been hoping they'd do with Arcee and retcon her not to be the three characters with a shared mind in ROTF. Because one of them was called Elita, but that was a toy only thing and never said in the film. At the same time Mirage is not a younger Dino just because Dino was going to be Mirage originally and Q was only called Wheeljack in the credits and not the film or video games so they are probably going to be made two different people. Were as Arcee feels like she is one of the other call backs to the original films Rise of the Beasts has with her being the maroon bike and the wheels being able to go into her feet like that old design did, but at the same time I think the reason Mirage and Wheeljack are in this film instead of Ironhide and Ratchet for the 2007 nostalgia bump is because that way we have new characters who aren't dead that can show up in the future movies when we go back to the modern day.
Re: First Details about Plot for the 2024 Transformers Animated film featuring a Pre War Cybertron (2160308)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 28th, 2023 @ 12:50pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 28th, 2023 @ 12:50pm CDT
I hope not. If they're gonna use a song titled "One" it should be from Metallica.snavej wrote:If they make the lyrics more appropriate, they could use U2's 'One' as part of the soundtrack.
