Figure King #242 Scans Feature Transformers Power of the Primes Optimus Primal, Elita-1, Abominus, More

Sitting here giggling over the photos, not in excitement, but general amusement. Hey, here is Optimus Primal as a square, here is product advertisement mis-transformers Abominus. I know it is supposed to be a call back to original look, but damn if it doesn't make me think of the badly transformed Hasbro product photos we get. Not planning on getting Primal, but if I did/do that photo wouldn't change my mind. Wouldn't see the backpack when I displayed it, and woudlnt really care when I played with it. Still like a little kid when ever I see Abominus as in the back of my head I can hear my inner child throwing "I want" fits.

Acesmcgee wrote:Sitting here giggling over the photos, not in excitement, but general amusement. Hey, here is Optimus Primal as a square, here is product advertisement mis-transformers Abominus. I know it is supposed to be a call back to original look, but damn if it doesn't make me think of the badly transformed Hasbro product photos we get. Not planning on getting Primal, but if I did/do that photo wouldn't change my mind. Wouldn't see the backpack when I displayed it, and woudlnt really care when I played with it. Still like a little kid when ever I see Abominus as in the back of my head I can hear my inner child throwing "I want" fits.

Yeah pretty sure Abominus isn’t mistransformed. Takara likes to to do little homages to the original toys sometimes in their promotions. Hence why Windrazers wings aren’t folded up and the arms look like bricks and Sinner Twin is backwards. They’ve done stuff like that before with unite Warriors and why the pic of abominus next to it shows him with all his articulation.

But please don’t let me knock you off that high horse you’re on

High horse? You're exhibiting what psychologists csall projection.

Adimus Prime wrote:High horse? You're exhibiting what psychologists csall projection.

And you’re a functional adult criticizing toys. What do psychologists call that?

JFC guys...

Knock it off.

As of yesterday my Psychology PhD is officially ABD. I'm too stoned from the medical procedure I just came out of to have an argument, but my professional opinion is "FFS take a chill pill."

So any news on differences with this Terrorcon set as compared to the Hasbro releases?

DMSL wrote:So any news on differences with this Terrorcon set as compared to the Hasbro releases?

No reason to expect them to be any different. Hasbro and Takara are sharing toy production, so everythibg should be the same, unless Takara does a special exclusive thats not part of the main toyline release (like Great Shot)

Flashwave wrote:

DMSL wrote:So any news on differences with this Terrorcon set as compared to the Hasbro releases?

No reason to expect them to be any different. Hasbro and Takara are sharing toy production, so everythibg should be the same, unless Takara does a special exclusive thats not part of the main toyline release (like Great Shot)

Welcome to the new normal! Hasbro and Takara are "uniting the brand" and will no longer be doing separate decos or tooling for their major retail releases. It started with the The Last Knight movie figures last year and is continuing now with Power of the Primes and the new Studio Series. Hasbro is even releasing later this year Takara's recently announced Anime Color Edition of Masterpiece Prowl. This all is why there aren't separate threads for Hasbro and Takara Tomy versions of Power of the Primes. It's all the same thing now, so all the news on both sides of the Pacific Ocean is lumped into one thread for simplicity.

I do miss the option of having Takara's G1 cartoon color schemes, premium decos, and extra tooling going forward, but at the same time, I think Takara is influencing Hasbro's deco decisions now, so we're getting a compromise of sorts. Also, my wallet is definitely happier getting these toys almost exclusively at domestic retail now.

Isn't the only difference going to be wave distribution? I think that the set of terrorcons will be released in the same assortment compared to our own waves mixed up approach.
@Randomhero, I am not sure what high horse you think I'm on, but that wasn't my intent to offend anyone. I was just trying to be a little silly and poke fun at the toys, so if I offended you, apologies. If your intent was being silly also, it went over my head, maybe my horse wasn't high enough?

Acesmcgee wrote:Isn't the only difference going to be wave distribution? I think that the set of terrorcons will be released in the same assortment compared to our own waves mixed up approach.
@Randomhero, I am not sure what high horse you think I'm on, but that wasn't my intent to offend anyone. I was just trying to be a little silly and poke fun at the toys, so if I offended you, apologies. If your intent was being silly also, it went over my head, maybe my horse wasn't high enough?

Didn't Takara release the Dinobot separately?

Not sure, thought they released them all together in the same wave. I easily could be wrong.

Skritz wrote:

Acesmcgee wrote:Isn't the only difference going to be wave distribution? I think that the set of terrorcons will be released in the same assortment compared to our own waves mixed up approach.
@Randomhero, I am not sure what high horse you think I'm on, but that wasn't my intent to offend anyone. I was just trying to be a little silly and poke fun at the toys, so if I offended you, apologies. If your intent was being silly also, it went over my head, maybe my horse wasn't high enough?

Didn't Takara release the Dinobot separately?

I believe the Dinobots are all coming out together in Takara's wave 2 of Power of the Primes. Keep in mind, their first wave isn't hitting until May, I think.

Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

It almost makes me wanna get PotP Optimal Optimus -- to show Hasbreh I want more Beast Wars!

Still on the hunt for Moonracer in OR -- Walmart is failing me. At least there's Slash and Cloudburst....

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Acesmcgee wrote:Isn't the only difference going to be wave distribution? I think that the set of terrorcons will be released in the same assortment compared to our own waves mixed up approach.
@Randomhero, I am not sure what high horse you think I'm on, but that wasn't my intent to offend anyone. I was just trying to be a little silly and poke fun at the toys, so if I offended you, apologies. If your intent was being silly also, it went over my head, maybe my horse wasn't high enough?

Didn't Takara release the Dinobot separately?

I believe the Dinobots are all coming out together in Takara's wave 2 of Power of the Primes. Keep in mind, their first wave isn't hitting until May, I think.

Acesmcgee wrote:Not sure, thought they released them all together in the same wave. I easily could be wrong.

That's exactly it, the only difference between Hasbro and TakaraTomy worth noting seems to be assortment-related, in fact there's two:

1) Members of standard Duocon/Combiner Teams are released together in the same wave. Dinobots are all in the same wave, the Terrorcons as well, same goes for the Dreadwing and Battletrap Duocons. "Spares" like Starscream and Jazz are released whenever it fits.
2) Straight retools are omitted from the main retail line, for the most part. Landmine, Bomb-Burst and Tailgate have been skipped, and we can expect the same for Inferno and Novastar. That's not to say they'll be released there at all, it's possible they'll be exclusives.

Thanks to TF-Factory on weibo, we have the artwork for the upcoming Power of the Primes Inferno figure, set be the wave 3 voyager and the last voyager of the line. The figure is a repaint of Combiner Wars Hot Spot with a new head, and was revealed earlier this month at the Australian Toy Fair. The artwork features Inferno is a hovering action pose as laser bolts go flying past him, typical of the Power of the Primes artwork.

You can check out the artwork below, and after that, head to our comments section to discuss it! Is this a good use of the Hot Spot mold? Should there have been more retooling? How do you feel about this being the last voyager of the line? Talk about this and more below!

Isn't it weird that he has Onslaught's shoulders and what looks like a unique chest to me in the artwork but the actual toy is just a red Hot Spot with a different head. I still want it though.

Still has Onslaught's shoulders and chest piece. We can haz combined mode nao?

to bad inferno doesnt get his own set of limbs so he has to share with Elita-1

Wolfman Jake wrote:In the interest of making sure the topic doesn't stray away from Power of the Primes, does anyone else think that the upcoming PotP Inferno makes a great stand-in for G1 Hosehead/Cab? I'd want to swap the head out, preferably for the Titanmaster Cab mentioned above from the God Girnai giftset, but it would require some major modifications to make the Headmaster gimmick really work well in robot mode. I assume Lug/Cab can just hang out in the ladder bucket it vehicle mode.

That's... actually not a bad idea.

Emerje

I wish it just came with the hotspot head and a nice G2 sign.

Shapeways can you hoot it up?

Emerje wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:In the interest of making sure the topic doesn't stray away from Power of the Primes, does anyone else think that the upcoming PotP Inferno makes a great stand-in for G1 Hosehead/Cab? I'd want to swap the head out, preferably for the Titanmaster Cab mentioned above from the God Girnai giftset, but it would require some major modifications to make the Headmaster gimmick really work well in robot mode. I assume Lug/Cab can just hang out in the ladder bucket it vehicle mode.

That's... actually not a bad idea.

Emerje

Well what about this.
Could someone one shapeways make a new neck plate so you could have Inferno's head on one side, and a Titan Master port for Cab on the other?

Should have made Inferno a new mold and just given us the G2 Protectobots

I will be picking this up. I just hope there also will be a Sideswipe. He would be Inferno's limb along with Ironhide and maybe Smokescreen and Blades.

IS IT JUST ME?

Doesnt seem is half-assing the whole POTP line?

* shortage of 'Limb-bots"
* Deluxes get a single weapon. ie, Dinos get a sword OR gun, etc...
* Despite numerous examples of what fans come to expect of our getalts (3rd party, Combiner Wars, etc...) we still get weak saue & incopleteness.
* only 4 waves?!

i looks or feels like is just trying to hurry it along,
as if
THEY have become bored
and just cant wait to puke it out ad move on.

i am sorely disappointed.

Z3ROhour wrote:IS IT JUST ME?

Doesnt seem is half-assing the whole POTP line?

* shortage of 'Limb-bots"
* Deluxes get a single weapon. ie, Dinos get a sword OR gun, etc...
* Despite numerous examples of what fans come to expect of our getalts (3rd party, Combiner Wars, etc...) we still get weak saue & incopleteness.
* only 4 waves?!

You forget that CW deluxes only came with one dedicated weapon. The 2nd was the HFG which was just a way to give each figure the Hand/Foot for their limb mode. While (in my Opinion) the prime armour/combiner hands are less 'multi-faceted' than the HFG's, they are ultimately still only there to give the limb modes a hand/fist.

Persoinally I like to use the prime armours as shields or power fists.

Z3ROhour wrote:IS IT JUST ME?

Doesnt seem is half-assing the whole POTP line?

* shortage of 'Limb-bots"
* Deluxes get a single weapon. ie, Dinos get a sword OR gun, etc...
* Despite numerous examples of what fans come to expect of our getalts (3rd party, Combiner Wars, etc...) we still get weak saue & incopleteness.
* only 4 waves?!

i looks or feels like is just trying to hurry it along,
as if
THEY have become bored
and just cant wait to puke it out ad move on.

i am sorely disappointed.

Given how quicly they announced it and had a fan poll, it seems they are already looking at War for Cybertron. I'm not annoyed with the Deluxes have 1 weapon, I'm more annoyed with the Voyagers have no weapons, where's Grimlock's sword?

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

Skritz wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

You'd better believe there will be a "Nemesis Prime" repaint of PotP Optimus Prime at some point in the future, even if it's just a Takara Tomy exclusive figure. Japan can't say no to a black repaint of an Optimus Prime mold.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Skritz wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

You'd better believe there will be a "Nemesis Prime" repaint of PotP Optimus Prime at some point in the future, even if it's just a Takara Tomy exclusive figure. Japan can't say no to a black repaint of an Optimus Prime mold.

Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Skritz wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

You'd better believe there will be a "Nemesis Prime" repaint of PotP Optimus Prime at some point in the future, even if it's just a Takara Tomy exclusive figure. Japan can't say no to a black repaint of an Optimus Prime mold.

Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

Why have one when you can have both? Believe me, Takara won't disappoint. Also, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do one as an SDCC exclusive, if they again don't do a special edition of the year's Titan Class figure.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Why have one when you can have both? Believe me, Takara won't disappoint. Also, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do one as an SDCC exclusive, if they again don't do a special edition of the year's Titan Class figure.

Black "Nemesis Prime" or "Scourge" repaints are another thing that came to an end at Hasbro when Warden took over. Yeah, we got one last year at SDCC, but that was only because their deal with Primitive Skate just happened to result in a black Prime. I think the last time we got a real one was the 2014 Legends figure which was probably already planned before he joined despite being a line ending figure (being a simple repaint in a case with another simple repaint). Nemesis Prime and Primal Prime seem pretty unlikely. I'd sooner believe we'll get a metallic Predaking with sword.

Emerje

What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

ZeroWolf wrote:(if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?)

The first evil black Optimus redeco ever was BotCon 1996 Onyx Primal, while the first one to appear in fiction (as evil, since Onyx was rewritten as a Maximal when he finally appeared in fiction) was Copy Convoy from Beast Wars Second.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Why have one when you can have both? Believe me, Takara won't disappoint. Also, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do one as an SDCC exclusive, if they again don't do a special edition of the year's Titan Class figure.

Ooooooooh. A chromed out PotP Primal would be nice. Just like the original.

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

Well he dislikes Beast Wars, guy can't be all bad, it was a terrible toy line with a mediocre cartoon show

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

I thought was not releasing RU ?

Volcanicus is interesting. Not decided yet on if I'm gonna display in combined form or not. The individual bots are all pretty great.

o.supreme wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

I thought was not releasing RU ?

Not in the main line, but as a potantial exclusive he fits the "evil black redeco" bill almost perfectly.

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

Who says it has to be a black repaint?

Primal Prime repainted into...Leader class Beastbox!

More likely a very lazy mans Apeface repaint.

What was that rumour about Primal and Megatron being used as Apeface and Snapdragon?

ThunderThruster wrote:What was that rumour about Primal and Megatron being used as Apeface and Snapdragon?

It was false.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

Who says it has to be a black repaint?

Primal Prime repainted into...Leader class Beastbox!

I have a better idea via a descendant:



Playskool Big Adventures Gorillabot aka Go-Bots Beast-Bot.

^ I'd much rather any new toy of Beast-Bot be a new mold that attempts to utilize his ability to turn into any animal by having as many animal altmodes (namely gorilla, wildcat, and raptor) as possible.[/pipedream]

Sabrblade wrote:^ I'd much rather any new toy of Beast-Bot be a new mold that attempts to utilize his ability to turn into any animal by having as many animal altmodes (namely gorilla, wildcat, and raptor) as possible.[/pipedream]

Good luck hoping for that when we can't even get a new Beast Wars Megatron!

That said, an all-beast triple/quad/penta/hexa-changer would be one crazy figure. Like an RiD 2001 Megatron on acid.