Figure King 194 Scans: First Color MP-20 Wheeljack, MP-22 Ultra Magnus Teaser, MP Star Saber Art and More
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2014 @ 12:29am CDT
Also, too much green.
Magnus - Nice to finally see something.
AD01 Optimus Prime - Yikes! Drastically different from Hasbro's!
Posted by zodconvoy on March 20th, 2014 @ 2:06am CDT
Posted by kirbenvost on March 20th, 2014 @ 2:36am CDT
Wheeljack, so good! It's true his bot mode has more green than in the cartoon, but that's the sacrifice they have to make for a more accurate car mode. Which looks amazing, by the way. A little lighter on the sponsors than I was expecting, but they got the big ones right. I'm surprised to see the car doors end up on his legs. I still haven't quite grasped the transformation, but it looks cool. The one criticism I have is that his waist looks really weak and flimsy. I guess a lighter windshield would be nice. They must've been going for car mode accuracy for that too.
What's with OP being so silver?
Also have to say those Kabaya kits are looking good, although I'm unsure if I want to continue with the series.
Posted by Anonymous on March 20th, 2014 @ 4:18am CDT
Does anyone have an opinion on Magnus' release timetable? So we received a silhouette of Bee a month or two ago and he is due for release in November, could we see Magnus by December or is that being too optimistic?
Posted by Anonymous on March 20th, 2014 @ 4:20am CDT
Posted by feeiq90 on March 20th, 2014 @ 6:12am CDT
PadForce wrote:And what is a phase 6-er? Six transformation steps?
its a pun,reference to the IDW comics lol..but in the magazine it shows that magnus is in phase 6, i guess he'll be released AFTER an MP star saber which is phase 5..
Posted by TimothyR on March 20th, 2014 @ 6:32am CDT
i hope they release some sort of exclusive with a simpler more animation accurate color scheme..
prowl, blue streak and smokescreens real world paint jobs translate really well to looking like the show, this however falls REALLY short in giving off the same effect.
also.. magnus looks like he's going to be my favorite masterpiece.. right now it's prowl.. but magnus just looks incredible.. i'm super excited for bumblebee and wheeljack.. but i'm two times as excited for magnus.. so exciting.
what a GREAT time to be a G1 fan.
Posted by Anonymous on March 20th, 2014 @ 6:34am CDT
feeiq90 wrote:man all those black parts on WJ should be greyPadForce wrote:And what is a phase 6-er? Six transformation steps?
its a pun,reference to the IDW comics lol..but in the magazine it shows that magnus is in phase 6, i guess he'll be released AFTER an MP star saber which is phase 5..
Damn that is disappointing, I will assume he is due 2015 then
Posted by TimothyR on March 20th, 2014 @ 6:38am CDT
PadForce wrote:feeiq90 wrote:man all those black parts on WJ should be greyPadForce wrote:And what is a phase 6-er? Six transformation steps?
its a pun,reference to the IDW comics lol..but in the magazine it shows that magnus is in phase 6, i guess he'll be released AFTER an MP star saber which is phase 5..
Damn that is disappointing, I will assume he is due 2015 then
well.. i think takara's plans were to do two small molds and one large per year.. so.. magnus would fit the large figure, but that's assuming star saber is counted as an extra rather than part of the normal G1 line.. i doubt it'll be that way, but i'm WAY more interested in magnus than i am for saber. whichever one comes out first, i assume they'll be out around christmas time.
Posted by SkyWarpsGhost on March 20th, 2014 @ 7:21am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 20th, 2014 @ 8:39am CDT
BB on December 2014
SS 1st 2015
UM 2nd 2015
Posted by KirbyForce1 on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:27am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 20th, 2014 @ 10:50am CDT
Is it me, or does MP Wheeljack transform similar to Rodimus? I see pieces of the back in the chest area.
Posted by Mindmaster on March 20th, 2014 @ 11:22am CDT
Wheeljack looks alright, but I'm not particularly attayched to him.
Urgh, I need more than concept sketches for Star Saber! He and MP11 Starscream are the ones I really want the most.
Posted by Wh33l Jck on March 20th, 2014 @ 11:32am CDT
White with a big orange dot on the hands?????
stripes just above the waist????
super dark windshield?????
big ugly pin marks on the hips with anemic thighs??????
I would rather them put this project on hold until they get it right....
Posted by fenrir72 on March 20th, 2014 @ 11:47am CDT
warzon3 wrote:What the heck are they doing to Wheel Jack?
White with a big orange dot on the hands?????
stripes just above the waist????
super dark windshield?????
big ugly pin marks on the hips with anemic thighs??????
I would rather them put this project on hold until they get it right....
Certain compromises have to be made. Mind you, this is a transforming figure so you can't expect it to be fully proportional or should I say not proportional as the original figure was.
Iirc, my 1980's Tomica Lancia Stratos despite having diffent scales had wayyyyyyyyyy different proportions compared to the somewhat blocky Takara Diaclone. The MP version seems to be following the real world car proportion, same with BB.
In the end, I know you're going to buy him or else he'll be sold out and you'll regret it to the end
Posted by Dead Metal on March 20th, 2014 @ 12:12pm CDT
warzon3 wrote:What the heck are they doing to Wheel Jack?
White with a big orange dot on the hands?????
stripes just above the waist????
super dark windshield?????
big ugly pin marks on the hips with anemic thighs??????
I would rather them put this project on hold until they get it right....
The orange dots are the back lights of his alt-mode.
And if they or any of the other deco choices where missing you'd complain about the alt-moe sucking.
I think Wheeljack looks OK, kinda disappointed myself though, but I'll reserve real judgement till we see better pics of him, ones that aren't on a white background and low quality.
Magnus looks as interesting as a silhouette can, only thing I get from it is that it's finally officially official that he's coming.
Posted by zodconvoy on March 20th, 2014 @ 1:25pm CDT
Posted by KirbyForce1 on March 20th, 2014 @ 1:34pm CDT
Also, do the AOE leader Optimus and Grimlock figures have any lights and/or sounds?
Posted by NemesisMonkeySupreme on March 20th, 2014 @ 1:47pm CDT
Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?
Posted by Anonymous on March 20th, 2014 @ 2:53pm CDT
zodconvoy wrote:Ultra Magnus is scheduled to come out in August with Wheeljack. Since it's based on MP-10 and has been in development since before MP-10 came out. Silhouette means a prototype is made while Star Saber is still only showing designs.
August? I dont know much about this at all, but with Bee, MP 21 due to be out in Nov from everything I have read, why would Magnus (MP 22) be out 4 months before that? Dubious.
Posted by Deathscythetransform on March 20th, 2014 @ 2:54pm CDT
the robot mode still disgust me.
Too much green on wheeljack, but I can live with that.
Starsaber? don't know that guy and I dont want to know him. Think of me as selfish, but I'd rather see Ultra Magnus (to which I am more familiar wit than that saber guy) be released before starsaber. Seeing only a shadow of him make me want him more than ever.
as someone said, its a good time to be a G1 addict!
Posted by KirbyForce1 on March 20th, 2014 @ 3:13pm CDT
NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:
Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?
Because the pages have been scanned though a printer.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2014 @ 3:34pm CDT
Based on this setup and the schedule fenrir72 posted, I'd say these phases represent quarterly scehdules of the year.KirbyForce1 wrote:What are these so-called "phases"? Ultra Magnus is phase 6, Star Saber is phase 5, and AOE Optimus is phase 1. What does this mean?
Phase 1 = 2014 Quarter 1/Spring 2014
Phase 2 = 2014 Quarter 2/Summer 2014
Phase 3 = 2014 Quarter 3/Fall 2014
Phase 4 = 2014 Quarter 4/Winter 2014
Phase 5 = 2015 Quarter 1/Spring 2015
Phase 6 = 2015 Quarter 2/Summer 2015
Posted by NemesisMonkeySupreme on March 20th, 2014 @ 6:35pm CDT
KirbyForce1 wrote:NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:
Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?
Because the pages have been scanned through a printer.
Then someone needs to learn how to use a scanner, 'cause those sure as hell look like photos to me.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2014 @ 6:43pm CDT
They obviously didn't want to tear up the magazine, so the pics are far from perfect and bent/curved to keep the spine intact.NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:KirbyForce1 wrote:NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:
Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?
Because the pages have been scanned through a printer.
Then someone needs to learn how to use a scanner, 'cause those sure as hell look like photos to me.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 20th, 2014 @ 6:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:They obvious didn't want to tear up the magazine, so the pics are far from perfect and bent/curved to keep the spine intact.NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:KirbyForce1 wrote:NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:
Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?
Because the pages have been scanned through a printer.
Then someone needs to learn how to use a scanner, 'cause those sure as hell look like photos to me.
Should we even care about how it's even done? Either way, we still see the contents of the magazine which is priority number one.
Posted by shajaki on March 20th, 2014 @ 7:27pm CDT
and after seeing the plans for streak/bluestreak/silverstreak/streakystreakystreakstreak... im not worried.
wheeljack is his own entity, thus one mold, one use. but this way they can at very least get two figures out of it: G1 toy accurate & G1 cartoon accurate.
and i dont think ive ever been more excited about some teaser/non-information than the ultra magnus silhouette.
Posted by hinomars19 on March 20th, 2014 @ 8:03pm CDT
Deathscythetransform wrote:Starsaber? don't know that guy and I dont want to know him. Think of me as selfish, but I'd rather see Ultra Magnus (to which I am more familiar wit than that saber guy) be released before starsaber. Seeing only a shadow of him make me want him more than ever.
as someone said, its a good time to be a G1 addict!
Star saber doesn't have any bearing on Magnus's release. He is separate to the rest of the MP line, even had a different designer. This is why BB is MP21 and Magnus is MP22. Ultra Magnus wouldn't come out any faster even if Saber didn't exist.
I do wish Magnus would come sooner, however. But hopefully the wait is because the new trailer parts are gonna be damn worth it!
(I do look forward to Star Saber's release...but not his price tag...)
Posted by zodconvoy on March 20th, 2014 @ 11:14pm CDT
And for the August release date, that's the only estimate available and has been listed. BBTS has August and TFSource has Late 2014.
Posted by TimothyR on March 21st, 2014 @ 12:41am CDT
shajaki wrote:seein a lot of anger over the color scheme... to me it just looks like they were going for a G1 toy accurate color scheme. it doesnt exactly match, but its closer to that than the toon wheeljack.
and after seeing the plans for streak/bluestreak/silverstreak/streakystreakystreakstreak... im not worried.
wheeljack is his own entity, thus one mold, one use. but this way they can at very least get two figures out of it: G1 toy accurate & G1 cartoon accurate.
and i dont think ive ever been more excited about some teaser/non-information than the ultra magnus silhouette.
okay.. first, you're wrong.
they RARELY consider the toy coloring for anything.. and this isn't an exception.. the colors are based on the actual real life vehicle.. the colors aren't based on the toy whatsoever.
and if you read what hasui said about wheeljack.. he said that he tried to make the color of the vehicle mode as accurate to the real life car as he could, and said that he tried to make the robot mode look closer to the animation model.
so, again, the colors have absolutely nothing to do with the toy.
i said it earlier that i REALLY hope they release a simpler cartoon accurate color scheme since, as he is right now, he doesn't fit all that well with the other autobot cars. the color schemes on the other cars are simple, so they translated perfectly into being accurate to both the cartoon and the real life car. wheeljack, however, was too complicated for the animators.. which now turns into this mess.
and, like you said, wheeljack hasn't been made with the thoughts of further use of the mold.. so i would think that it's likely we'll see an animation accurate wheeljack.
i hope they do.. and when they do, hopefully i'll be able to sell the car accurate wheeljack lol.. though i'm sure i'll end up keeping it cause it looks great.. it's just not perfect compared to the others.
this news story has really ruined my excitement for bumblebee and wheeljack because i'm SOOOO excited for magnus lol. i'm still excited for the other two, but magnus is just going to be incredible.. there's no real life vehicle to be modeled after.. either of the two ways of him achieving his robot mode is just fine with me.. i love it.
Posted by Stormrider on March 21st, 2014 @ 8:08am CDT
Ultra Magnus is wielding a relatively small gun. I hope his toes/feet are better designed and more pronounced than his G1 version.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 8:47am CDT
Posted by craggy on March 21st, 2014 @ 12:59pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?
i didn't when i meantioned it in some other thread where people were having a fit about repaints and colour-schemes.
on the other hand, of course I'm sorry if your childhood is ruined forever because an update of a Transformer toy from the 80s looks quite a bit like a Transformer toy.
Nice to get confirmation of Magnus though. Oh, wait! lets all get our knickers into a twist about the Phase 6 thing. It seems like a wave designation to me,.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 1:36pm CDT
What's this, now? Whose childhood? What toy? Huh?craggy wrote:on the other hand, of course I'm sorry if your childhood is ruined forever because an update of a Transformer toy from the 80s looks quite a bit like a Transformer toy.
Posted by craggy on March 21st, 2014 @ 2:30pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What's this, now? Whose childhood? What toy? Huh?craggy wrote:on the other hand, of course I'm sorry if your childhood is ruined forever because an update of a Transformer toy from the 80s looks quite a bit like a Transformer toy.
I wasn't replying to you specifically with that part of my post. Ignore it and move on.
Posted by REMINATOR on March 21st, 2014 @ 6:03pm CDT
As for UM, I'm super excited to see the official confirmation. Tip my hat to BBTS for the super early bird news. Other than the teeny tiny gun, so far I really like what I see from MP UM.
As for Phase 6 labeling, that's just the Magazine Layout format. Here's a quote from the man who did the translation:
MACRAPTRON View Post
According to Hisashi Yuki, the designing process is at 35% [Star Saber]. Those are the preliminary design sketches and will most likely change a lot before we see the final thing.
He also mentions that the main challenge is to decide on the price range - they want to deliver a great and affordable product so they're deciding on that boring stuff (drop/include features, accessories).
And... forget about the Phase 5, Phase 6 thing. It's just the magazine listing the news in a fancy way.
Posted by shajaki on March 21st, 2014 @ 7:41pm CDT
TimothyR wrote:shajaki wrote:seein a lot of anger over the color scheme... to me it just looks like they were going for a G1 toy accurate color scheme. it doesnt exactly match, but its closer to that than the toon wheeljack.
okay.. first, you're wrong.
they RARELY consider the toy coloring for anything.. and this isn't an exception.. the colors are based on the actual real life vehicle.. the colors aren't based on the toy whatsoever.
and if you read what hasui said about wheeljack.. he said that he tried to make the color of the vehicle mode as accurate to the real life car as he could, and said that he tried to make the robot mode look closer to the animation model.
so, again, the colors have absolutely nothing to do with the toy.
okay.. first, theres no need to be a dick.
im aware that it was meant to be based on the real car. but the G1 toy also had the majority of the sponsor decals which is mainly where it differs from the cartoon. but also the black in place of the *should be* grey, and the G1 window is arguably clear/smoked, definitely not blue. for these reasons i believe he resembles the G1 toy more than the G1 cartoon model. hell, give him the dual launchers the original toy had and he'd be a dead ringer.
and "RARELY consider"? how about streak? he's getting two variants based soley on toys. hasbros rodimus was based on the original hot rod toy. MP10's darker blue is a reflection of the G1 toys colors. tigertrack and G2 sideswipe (aside from comics) only existed as toys. and that covers most of the MP molds since the rescaling. is that what you mean by rarely?
Posted by fenrir72 on March 21st, 2014 @ 10:55pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?
What about Malboor WJ?
Posted by Sabrblade on March 21st, 2014 @ 11:02pm CDT
Another good option!fenrir72 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?
What about Malboor WJ?
Posted by craggy on March 22nd, 2014 @ 2:29am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 22nd, 2014 @ 6:31am CDT
Indeed.craggy wrote:Slicer is certainly easier though, as no retooling required and no pesky legal dept worrying paint job.
Posted by Hammer on March 22nd, 2014 @ 9:19am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?
What about Malboor WJ?
I dont think that we will see the Marlboro chevron on Wheeljack again unless it's a custom.