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TRozok21 wrote:
I'll try to get a price on Megatronus tomorrow, or I'm no better than that low-down dirty Starscream

Dont worry about it, you help us enough, dont let any of us pressure you. You are our ace up our sleeve for scoops, wouldnt want to lose you.

And if a price is really needed NOW, well here:

Megatronus is 50 AUD in australia which is almost at par with Canada. It's actually 47.14 $ cdn but how much do you wanna bet that they will make it a clean 50$ It is also the same size and price point as the Mega Optimus which is also said to be in that price range.

He is the same height too:



Oh and before i forget to mention it, that means he is leader size, not voyager size.

In regards to the Sentai mecha/PR megazord articulation comparison, I grew up on both Beast Wars and Power Rangers and never viewed the two in the same light or league. One was a line of super articulated transformable robots, while the other was a line that included super stable and solid combining robots. While I did sometimes wish that the megazords were more poseable, I never wanted them to be as poseable as the Beast Wars toys since I felt that, while articulation can be done well for transforming toys, it intruded upon the stability of combining robots, as at the time I had the likes of Magnaboss and Tripredacus to go by, and those two had so many joints that would all too often render them both as floppy, unstable messes, whereas my megazords all kept strong and stable with their limited number of joints. And even later when the first RiD line came out in 2001 with its combiner toys of Rail Racer, Ruination, and Landfill, though those felt a bit more stable than the two beast combiners, I still felt that the megazords were better combiner toys overall with how solidly they held together and stayed firm in their stature.

That said, this is not meant to be an excuse for the lower articulated TF toys, rather, it is meant to explain why I personally let megazords and the like get a pass on their lower levels of articulation vs. the more brick-like TF toys of today. I don't see comparing the bricky TF to megazords as a valid comparison since, to me, they've always been two different kinds of toys with different purposes and standards (transforming robot toys vs. combining robot toys).

Sabrblade wrote:In regards to the Sentai mecha/PR megazord articulation comparison, I grew up on both Beast Wars and Power Rangers and never viewed the two in the same light or league. One was a line of super articulated transformable robots, while the other was a line that included super stable and solid combining robots. While I did sometimes wish that the megazords were more poseable, I never wanted them to be as poseable as the Beast Wars toys since I felt that, while articulation can be done well for transforming toys, it intruded upon the stability of combining robots, as at the time I had the likes of Magnaboss and Tripredacus to go by, and those two had so many joints that would all too often render them both as floppy, unstable messes, whereas my megazords all kept strong and stable with their limited number of joints. And even later when the first RiD line came out in 2001 with its combiner toys of Rail Racer, Ruination, and Landfill, though those felt a bit more stable than the two beast combiners, I still felt that the megazords were better combiner toys overall with how solidly they held together and stayed firm in their stature.

That said, this is not meant to be an excuse for the lower articulated TF toys, rather, it is meant to explain why I personally let megazords and the like get a pass on their lower levels of articulation vs. the more brick-like TF toys of today. I don't see comparing the bricky TF to megazords as a valid comparison since, to me, they've always been two different kinds of toys with different purposes and standards (transforming robot toys vs. combining robot toys).

The only reason I would have given them a pass was because stylistically, some of them, Gao Icarus specifically amongst others (wild force I believe) looked so well put together with beautiful curves and sleek designs, which is now gone from the super sentai line.

william-james88 wrote:

TRozok21 wrote:
I'll try to get a price on Megatronus tomorrow, or I'm no better than that low-down dirty Starscream

Dont worry about it, you help us enough, dont let any of us pressure you. You are our ace up our sleeve for scoops, wouldnt want to lose you.

And if a price is really needed NOW, well here:

Megatronus is 50 AUD in australia which is almost at par with Canada. It's actually 47.14 $ cdn but how much do you wanna bet that they will make it a clean 50$ It is also the same size and price point as the Mega Optimus which is also said to be in that price range.

Well like I said, I'll try to look into it tomorrow so we can have a solid price on him

Speaking of Megatronus, Griffin from Ozformers gave a rundown of the toy:

Unfortunately, the elbows are the only bits of articulation... which isn't unusual for a heavy gimmick toy like this one, but really shouldn't be. Look at Legends/Legion class toys that are noted as 5 or 6 step toys, and they usually have more articulation.

The legs are solid from the waist down... the head doesn't move (because it has the tank turret sticking out the back of the head), and the arms are locked at the shoulders because of the "auto-transforming" gimmick of the upper body.
No hand movement, or feet.
Just elbows on a pin.
Mine has now seized up in robot mode (the internal mechanism just isn't working anymore so I can't get it back to tank mode), which is in my last photo with the Mega 3-step Optimus... which makes the arms not sit properly, but it's sad to say that even though it is busted, it doesn't impact on the already limited articulation of this toy.

The turret is attached to the robot head, which locks into place in the depths of the tank mode. The barrel part that is removable (and attaches to the robot forearm), can swivel up and down.
I actually prefer the Legion version, as the cannon can rotate, and the tank looks better.

This Ultra version makes me think of the Tron tanks a little.

So, that giant Megatronus will be a "buy on sale only" thing.

After reading that review, I'm not sure you want to wait for a sale. May just want the legions version.

Youtuber Baltmatrix has posted a video review of the Transformers: Robots in Disguise Mini-cons Velocirazor, Beastbox, RatBat and SandSting. He shows off their transformation, Energon accessories and the bonus Energon shark figure.



Refresh your memory with the Deployers Drift and Fracture here. And remember to stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the lastest news and galleries.

-Kanrabat- wrote:So, that giant Megatronus will be a "buy on sale only" thing.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:After reading that review, I'm not sure you want to wait for a sale. May just want the legions version.

Or get the Warrior class version.

These little guys are still cool for what they are. could have done better yes, but still cool little punks

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:These little guys are still cool for what they are. could have done better yes, but still cool little punks

The more I see them the more I like them. They are just so tiny. I've really taking a shine to Beastbox.

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:These little guys are still cool for what they are. could have done better yes, but still cool little punks

The more I see them the more I like them. They are just so tiny. I've really taking a shine to Beastbox.

Beastbox definitely has a cool look, I'll give you that. They all do look nice

Trozok21 is on fire. He has informed us that Toysrus Exclusive 5 step Megatronus, which he recently found, will actually be 39.99$ Cdn. This is better than expected since this figure is leader sizes, same size as RID Mega Optimus, and the voyager sized Clash of the Transformers Exclusives have been priced at 27.99$ Cdn. This later news was also provided by Trozok21 as well as an online listing finally revealing these figures officially.

Below you will find the two official stock photos from the online listing for Tru Exclusive, Clash of the Transformers Bumblebee.

Last but not least, Trozok21 also sent a picture of the Legion Optimus redeco found on the packaging of Megatronus. While this figure was seen before in a two pack in australia, it is interesting to note that the packaging does say it will be sold individually, which does against what was previously found.

The white parts on OP should be black.

I hope this is not bad to say, but Bumblebee's face mask reminds me of his original G1 figure counterpart.

Hmph, well at least they remolded this one.

Today we get news from he big man himself, Seibertron! This is the first sighting we were notified of for Mega Optimus, an upscaled and retooled leader version of the Hyperchange Optimus figure.

Here is what Seibertron had to share about his finding:

Found 3 step mega Optimus prime at target in rosemont, IL just outside of chicago. Price is 31.79

This means the toy should be coming to your area soon if not already be there.

Lucky guy has vipers in his targets; wish cw would show up in my area

william-james88 wrote:Today we get news from he big man himself, Seibertron! This is the first sighting we were notified of for Mega Optimus, an upscaled and retooled leader version of the Hyperchange Optimus figure.

Here is what Seibertron had to share about his finding:

Found 3 step mega Optimus prime at target in rosemont, IL just outside of chicago. Price is 31.79

This means the toy should be coming to your area soon if not already be there.

Can this also fit smaller cars inside?

fenrir72 wrote:Can this also fit smaller cars inside?

Nope but it does interact with the minicons.

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Can this also fit smaller cars inside?

Nope but it does interact with the minicons.

"Interact" in this case meaning "sit them down on his knees". No unlocked features or anything.

That Bot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Can this also fit smaller cars inside?

Nope but it does interact with the minicons.

"Interact" in this case meaning "sit them down on his knees". No unlocked features or anything.

But, but... it's easier for kids to use it as a door-stop that way

Naysayers gonna naysay.

I'll be looking out for this thing. It's glorious!

Funny how the first official images of it had "1-step" on the package and now it says "3-step". Probably a 2-step and they just rounded up for no reason

ScottyP wrote:Funny how the first official images of it had "1-step" on the package and now it says "3-step". Probably a 2-step and they just rounded up for no reason

He shares engineering (he's not a retool!) with the regular 3-Step Optimus Prime, but even he's bending the definition. All you do is swing the chest back and around to the feet. Nothing else!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Funny how the first official images of it had "1-step" on the package and now it says "3-step". Probably a 2-step and they just rounded up for no reason

He shares engineering (he's not a retool!) with the regular 3-Step Optimus Prime, but even he's bending the definition. All you do is swing the chest back and around to the feet. Nothing else!

You've got to explain this to me, how is he not a retooled upscale? Was he really a new mold from scratch? What difference makes this more individual?

william-james88 wrote:You've got to explain this to me, how is he not a retooled upscale? Was he really a new mold from scratch? What difference makes this more individual?

When literally every part is sculpted differently in some way, you're not in re-tool territory anymore. Shared transformation concept, but no enlarged "shared" parts from what I can tell.

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You've got to explain this to me, how is he not a retooled upscale? Was he really a new mold from scratch? What difference makes this more individual?

When literally every part is sculpted differently in some way, you're not in re-tool territory anymore. Shared transformation concept, but no enlarged "shared" parts from what I can tell.

So its the equivalent of Combiner Wars streetwise if he was upscaled to a voyager and then compared with Dead End?

william-james88 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You've got to explain this to me, how is he not a retooled upscale? Was he really a new mold from scratch? What difference makes this more individual?

When literally every part is sculpted differently in some way, you're not in re-tool territory anymore. Shared transformation concept, but no enlarged "shared" parts from what I can tell.

So its the equivalent of Combiner Wars streetwise if he was upscaled to a voyager and then compared with Dead End?

Think of it more like G2 Smokescreen/BWII Starscream/RID Smokejumper/RM Smokesniper, Energon Starscream, and Generations FOC Starscream. All three molds were engineered to transform the same way, but are each their own individual mold rather than the same mold.

william-james88 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You've got to explain this to me, how is he not a retooled upscale? Was he really a new mold from scratch? What difference makes this more individual?

When literally every part is sculpted differently in some way, you're not in re-tool territory anymore. Shared transformation concept, but no enlarged "shared" parts from what I can tell.

So its the equivalent of Combiner Wars streetwise if he was upscaled to a voyager and then compared with Dead End?

This is Beast Hunters "Upscales" all over again. Basically they share transformation and detailing, but the "upscale" disqualifies it from the main definition of "retool". We have:

- Retools: some modified parts
- Reshells: changes the outward appearance while keeping transformation and some minor parts intact
- Down-/Upscale: changes the size of the basic design, but not the toy.

The last one involves changing designs on paper, no actual existing parts are modified.

They convert from one mode to at least one other mode. on occasion they transform exactly the same and other times they look the same but are different sizes. i'm not too technical here, so let's just say SCRAP THIS and think about how we can create new designs for the characters so we don't have to worry about "similar engineering"

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
This is Beast Hunters "Upscales" all over again. Basically they share transformation and detailing, but the "upscale" disqualifies it from the main definition of "retool". We have:

- Retools: some modified parts
- Reshells: changes the outward appearance while keeping transformation and some minor parts intact
- Down-/Upscale: changes the size of the basic design, but not the toy.

The last one involves changing designs on paper, no actual existing parts are modified.

Yes, I definitely think of this more like the upscales. The other examples listed are more coincidences from separate start up points. This was planned at the same time for the same line. There is definite cost cutting involved unlike the G2 smokescreen and Energon Starscream.

Here is another video review coming our way from chuckdawg1999. It is the first review we were made aware of for Deployers Fractor and Airazor.

Here is what Chuck had to say about the figure:

Fracture is a nice shade of Decepticon purple, and that's really the only nice thing I can say about this toy. Keeping in mind that it's intended for children I'm concerned about how long it would take the average child to break a figure made from such flimsy plastic, with a play feature that has a tendency to jam. Airazor looks good but is a static brick making its clear parts somewhat useless. Collectors move along, nothing to see here.

Enjoy!

God bless you Chuck for buying this crap so nobody else has to. I am shocked this was actually produced.

How come one step Fracture is his earth motorcycle mode.....but yet his Minicon Deployer is his Cybertronian form?

Stuartmaximus wrote:How come one step Fracture is his earth motorcycle mode.....but yet his Minicon Deployer is his Cybertronian form?

Variety?

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:How come one step Fracture is his earth motorcycle mode.....but yet his Minicon Deployer is his Cybertronian form?

Variety?

Same goes for Drift.

I saw the minicons for the first time today and they look great, if like bricks. I want some but I don't like the 7.99CAD price tag. Maybe on discount.

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You've got to explain this to me, how is he not a retooled upscale? Was he really a new mold from scratch? What difference makes this more individual?

When literally every part is sculpted differently in some way, you're not in re-tool territory anymore. Shared transformation concept, but no enlarged "shared" parts from what I can tell.

They're Buck brothers.

Ravage XK wrote:God bless you Chuck for buying this crap so nobody else has to. I am shocked this was actually produced.

I can tell you that Drift is markedly better, but that's not saying much.

Check out what Downshift found at Toysrus: the exclusive Clash of the Transformers Warrior Class figures:



I might get that optimus if it goes on sale. That sideswipe looks horrid though.

Man, they look nothing like they did in the show. Sideswipe's close, but not enough.

And where's Strongarm? She was involved in this too!

Sabrblade wrote:Man, they look nothing like they did in the show. Sideswipe's close, but not enough.

And where's Strongarm? She was involved in this too!

For me Sideswipe looks the best, then I remember how bad that mold is. I like how Prime looks but not enough to justify a 3rd version of that mold.

Is there not going to be a Strongarm upgrade?

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Is there not going to be a Strongarm upgrade?

There wont be. They already listed all the updates we will be getting as part of the clash of the TF line: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/megatronus-alt-mode-revealed-and-more-possible-robots-in-disguise-product-releases/32801/

william-james88 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Is there not going to be a Strongarm upgrade?

There wont be. They already listed all the updates we will be getting as part of the clash of the TF line: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/megatronus-alt-mode-revealed-and-more-possible-robots-in-disguise-product-releases/32801/

Oh slag, I just realized that the app game pic of Warrior Megatronus has his goofy-looking battle mask over his face. They better not do that for the toy itself.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Is there not going to be a Strongarm upgrade?

There wont be. They already listed all the updates we will be getting as part of the clash of the TF line: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/megatronus-alt-mode-revealed-and-more-possible-robots-in-disguise-product-releases/32801/

Oh slag, I just realized that the app game pic of Warrior Megatronus has his goofy-looking battle mask over his face. They better not do that for the toy itself.

Hope for the best and expect the worst.

william-james88 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Is there not going to be a Strongarm upgrade?

There wont be. They already listed all the updates we will be getting as part of the clash of the TF line: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/megatronus-alt-mode-revealed-and-more-possible-robots-in-disguise-product-releases/32801/

Thank you. Not surprised... maybe Takara will pull through

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Is there not going to be a Strongarm upgrade?

There wont be. They already listed all the updates we will be getting as part of the clash of the TF line: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/megatronus-alt-mode-revealed-and-more-possible-robots-in-disguise-product-releases/32801/

Thank you. Not surprised... maybe Takara will pull through

Takara seems to just be doing straight releases of the Hasbro versions, USA Edition style, rather than making their own releases.

Though, in all honesty, I kinda question if a mere two episodes really deserve their own subline imprint.

Those clash guys look nice. They could have done better with Bee but otherwise they look good

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Those clash guys look nice. They could have done better with Bee but otherwise they look good

They could have done better with all of them since none of them are remolded to be armored up like they were in the show.