Die Cast Optimus Primal to Come With Transformers Asia Release of Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor

This was the perfect opportunity for "it's a lost art" and it was overlooked...

I'm not mad, just disappointed.

Mkall wrote:This was the perfect opportunity for "it's a lost art" and it was overlooked...

I'm not mad, just disappointed.

HA!

Y'know, I'm kinda warming up to these diecast figures. I'm bummed if this is the end of the coins, but they're kinda like fancy Decoys. And I can get behind that

Mkall wrote:This was the perfect opportunity for "it's a lost art" and it was overlooked...

I'm not mad, just disappointed.

Check again

Oooooh, that's kinda cool. I wonder if BBTS will let me switch my pre-order to this version.

I'm disappointed it's not an accessory like the mace that comes with Primal. I don't really get the appeal of little non-moving, unpainted metal. But this is what I've been waiting for: to see what/if Cheetor's Asia exclusive will be. So I guess I'm off to Robot Kingdom unless someone can suggest a cheaper online store that offers the Asia exclusives.

UltraPrimal wrote:I'm disappointed it's not an accessory like the mace that comes with Primal. I don't really get the appeal of little non-moving, unpainted metal. But this is what I've been waiting for: to see what/if Cheetor's Asia exclusive will be. So I guess I'm off to Robot Kingdom unless someone can suggest a cheaper online store that offers the Asia exclusives.

If you are Canadian, I would wait till ages 3 and up gets their listing. Shipping from robot kingdom to northamerica is as painful as a root canal.

Anime Export seems to have the best price + shipping overall. I pre-ordered Cheetor, and Legends Super Ginrai from them, combined shipping $23 bucks to anywhere in north america. Unless Primal and Jinrai weigh more than 2 pounds (1Kg) combined.

Cheetor: $48
Jinrai: $52.



Can't beat those prices. Sadly MP Primal was sold out, so gonna have to dish out the higher price on BBTS or TFsource for that one.

Overcracker wrote:Can't beat those prices.

I can, Cheetor cost me $47

https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/18 ... -wars.html


Let me know how much shipping ends up, I think it will be more than you predict, amiami has always surprised me. I went with nippon yassan, Cheetor is $47 and shipping was only $13. Could have been cheaper, but I went with registered mail.

And for primal, keep nippon yassan as a favourite since they usually get some extra stock so you could get your primal for cheaper. Just giev your e-mail so taht they can contact you when they get him in.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Can't beat those prices.

I can, Cheetor cost me $47

https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/18 ... -wars.html


Let me know how much shipping ends up, I think it will be more than you predict, amiami has always surprised me. I went with nippon yassan, Cheetor is $47 and shipping was only $13. Could have been cheaper, but I went with registered mail.

And for primal, keep nippon yassan as a favourite since they usually get some extra stock so you could get your primal for cheaper. Just giev your e-mail so taht they can contact you when they get him in.

Interesting. I guess I'll wait and see if they get some Primal's in before ordering from TFsource.

Thanks.

Overcracker wrote:Anime Export seems to have the best price + shipping overall. I pre-ordered Cheetor, and Legends Super Ginrai from them, combined shipping $23 bucks to anywhere in north america. Unless Primal and Jinrai weigh more than 2 pounds (1Kg) combined.

Cheetor: $48
Jinrai: $52.



Can't beat those prices. Sadly MP Primal was sold out, so gonna have to dish out the higher price on BBTS or TFsource for that one.

FYI ... they will weigh more than 2 pounds combined. In-package Transformers products traditionally weigh (when rounded up for shipping) 1 pound for Deluxes, 2 pounds for Voyagers, and 3 pounds for Leader Class figures. Smaller packaged Masterpiece figures ship right around 1 pound. Since a Leader actually weighs around 2.25 pounds, you might be able to get a small Masterpiece shipped with it possibly around 3 pounds depending on the weight of the box and the inner packing material, which may push it slightly over 3 pounds (which would possibly be rounded up to 4 pounds depending on the type of shipping you chose ... if EMS it would be rounded up to 4 pounds).

That's some fuzzy math, just estimates. Too many variables with shipping between the toys, their packaging, the package to ship the toy and any inner packing material used. Long story short: I would estimate 4 pounds for those 2 items shipped and if it's less, than it's less and you saved some money. My experience shipping over a thousand items in the past year plus thousands more in previous years has given me a pretty good gut instinct of how much shipping should be.

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Seibertron wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Anime Export seems to have the best price + shipping overall. I pre-ordered Cheetor, and Legends Super Ginrai from them, combined shipping $23 bucks to anywhere in north america. Unless Primal and Jinrai weigh more than 2 pounds (1Kg) combined.

Cheetor: $48
Jinrai: $52.



Can't beat those prices. Sadly MP Primal was sold out, so gonna have to dish out the higher price on BBTS or TFsource for that one.

FYI ... they will weigh more than 2 pounds combined. In-package Transformers products traditionally weigh (when rounded up for shipping) 1 pound for Deluxes, 2 pounds for Voyagers, and 3 pounds for Leader Class figures. Smaller packaged Masterpiece figures ship right around 1 pound. Since a Leader actually weighs around 2.25 pounds, you might be able to get a small Masterpiece shipped with it possibly around 3 pounds depending on the weight of the box and the inner packing material, which may push it slightly over 3 pounds (which would possibly be rounded up to 4 pounds depending on the type of shipping you chose ... if EMS it would be rounded up to 4 pounds).

That's some fuzzy math, just estimates. Too many variables with shipping between the toys, their packaging, the package to ship the toy and any inner packing material used. Long story short: I would estimate 4 pounds for those 2 items shipped and if it's less, than it's less and you saved some money. My experience shipping over a thousand items in the past year plus thousands more in previous years has given me a pretty good gut instinct of how much shipping should be.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Ffeedback.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewFeedback2%26userid%3Dseibertron%26ftab%3DAllFeedback%26
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Thanks for the insight Ryan. I do appreciate the calculations.

I did mean Cheetor not Primal. I sort of calculated based on the Magnus I have with its box which was under 1 and half pounds (plus a bit more for the extras paneling for the prime trailer), and I was guessing cheetor was around half a pound probably a little less if MP Sideswipe and Hot Rod were anything to go by. Average around 2.5 pounds. But I will defer to your experience in this case.

4 pounds it apparently goes up to $39 shipping, which is not as good as BBTS's $36, but the difference in item cost still makes it a better deal, at least to my current neck of the woods, since the actual item prices are still quite a bit lower. But we'll see when they come in, exactly what they'll weigh.

Anime Export does have fractional shipment costs, so they'll probably round up to the nearest quarter kilogram rather than the nearest kilogram.

Thanks for the heads up.

TransformersAsia's facebook page has presented us with an image of Masterpiece MP-34 Cheetor. He comes with a promotional Diecast Mini Figure of Optimus Primal for those who pre-order from select stores in Asia while supplies last. Unfortunately, this will not be available in Japan. What do you think of these new accessories? Join in the conversation in the Energon Pub!

Kinda "meh" really. Would have preferred a pose with his hands on his hips instead of up in the air awkwardly. Maybe if I saw one online for cheap I'd grab it, but I don't feel like I'm missing out by ordering from Japan.

Emerje

Got a feeling he is posed like that in order to minimise the view of kibble and the covered arms.

Ravage XK wrote:Got a feeling he is posed like that in order to minimise the view of kibble and the covered arms.

I think Emerje was talking about the Primal figurine's pose.

Why'd they give him an logo? Was too hard?

MegaDump wrote:Why'd they give him an logo? Was too hard?

He'll likely have one on the final packaging. Primal did.

Though, to the Japanese, and are both marks of the "Cybertron" faction, just as both and are marks of the "Destron" faction.

Sabrblade wrote:

MegaDump wrote:Why'd they give him an logo? Was too hard?

He'll likely have one on the final packaging. Primal did.

Though, to the Japanese, and are both marks of the "Cybertron" faction, just as both and are marks of the "Destron" faction.

Damn Japanese & their confusing logic! lol

We have some new images of MP Cheetor fom Dengeki Hobby for MP 34 Masterpiece Cheetor. The article also states that the release date has been pushed to February. One really interesting factoid we lean from these images is that the beast mode's eyes can be turned.

I think it's just different heads.

I thought so too at first, but previous images show him looking straight ahead. And it would be odd for them to sculpt all the heads looking off to the side.

And the Asia Exclusive accessory? Red eyes!

Delays could be related to very high demand for the Inferno mold. Takara's factories must be maxed out or vice versa.

Isn't it odd how his beast mode head is so much more expressive than his robot mode one?

Sabrewing wrote:Isn't it odd how his beast mode head is so much more expressive than his robot mode one?

That's basically how it was in the cartoon wasn't it?

Emerje

Good grief! He looks fantastic! Sassy cat indeed!

I'm just loving those colors! Matt cheetah print with that brilliant metallic purple. The gold accents throughout and even the splash of pink on the gun.
This is a really excellent color scheme that's executed perfectly.

Wow, he looks awesome from all the angles! Very well done, looks wise at least

Cheetor delayed :

https://t.co/17icZ5w5wD

Old news, chap

william-james88 wrote:We have some new images of MP Cheetor fom Dengeki Hobby for MP 34 Masterpiece Cheetor. The article also states that the release date has been pushed to February. One really interesting factoid we lean from these images is that the beast mode's eyes can be turned.

Thought it was worth mentioning for TF source customers at least.

RAR wrote:Thought it was worth mentioning for TF source customers at least.

But its delayed for everyone.

So maybe they are spending that extra time adding a Tigertron or Lio Jnr head or something to the mould for future use.

RAR wrote:So maybe they are spending that extra time adding a Tigertron or Lio Jnr head or something to the mould for future use.

Shadow Panther would probably be the most likely reuse of the mold, since Tigatron would need to be a full upscale of the mold a la Energon Megatron/Galvatron and Super Link Galvatron/Galvatron G.

Sabrblade wrote:

RAR wrote:So maybe they are spending that extra time adding a Tigertron or Lio Jnr head or something to the mould for future use.

Shadow Panther would probably be the most likely reuse of the mold, since Tigatron would need to be a full upscale of the mold a la Energon Megatron/Galvatron and Super Link Galvatron/Galvatron G.

He'd also have to be an entirely new mold since a real tiger doesn't look anything like a cheetah. He'd likely be able to share the transformation, but all of the cat parts would have to be new. Shadow Panther could probably pass from a Tigatron mold, though.



A Cheetor repaint would probably just be an even more toy accurate repaint and include the bug mask.

Emerje

Wasn't Tigatron a straight repaint of cheator? The originals, I mean?

Ironhidensh wrote:Wasn't Tigatron a straight repaint of cheator? The originals, I mean?

The originals yes

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Wasn't Tigatron a straight repaint of cheator? The originals, I mean?

The originals yes

Then that us most likely how they will do a Tigatron MP. I do hope I'm wrong on that, though.

The problem comes from the fact that despite being a redeco, the show models done Tigatron differently - heavily editing his beast mode, upping his size compared to Cheetor and in general giving him more mature characteristics. It's to the point that making him a redeco of Cheetor would be like MP Cliffjumper being a redeco of MP Bumblebee.

Yeah, Tigatron's cartoon model was bigger than Cheetor's, and his beast mode was shaped differently.



Tigatron's beast mode has more overall mass to it. A larger head, thicker legs, a more rounded back and belly; about the only thing his and Cheetor's MPs could share is transformation engineering. The rest of Tigatron would need to be a larger mold.

Do you honestly think that Takara won't straight repaint Tigatron?

Ironhidensh wrote:Do you honestly think that Takara won't straight repaint Tigatron?

The same could be said about Bumblebee and Cliffjumper though, right?

I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.

Ironhidensh wrote:I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.

You do know that the real life Ferrari isn't nearly as super deformed as Cliffjumper's altmode, right?

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.

You do know that the real life Ferrari isn't nearly as super deformed as Cliffjumper's altmode, right?

Yes, but this is Takara we are talking about. With the recent push to cartoon accuracy, I expect a Bee retool.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.

You do know that the real life Ferrari isn't nearly as super deformed as Cliffjumper's altmode, right?

Yes, but this is Takara we are talking about. With the recent push to cartoon accuracy, I expect a Bee retool.

They still maintain real life accuracy for the cars, though.

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.

You do know that the real life Ferrari isn't nearly as super deformed as Cliffjumper's altmode, right?

Yes, but this is Takara we are talking about. With the recent push to cartoon accuracy, I expect a Bee retool.

They still maintain real life accuracy for the cars, though.

I hope you are right but we will see. I need a good Cliffjumoer, and the 3rd party market hasn't delivered yet.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I believe Cliffjumper is a licensing issue, but when he comes, if he comes, I expect a minor retool of bumblebee.

You do know that the real life Ferrari isn't nearly as super deformed as Cliffjumper's altmode, right?

Yes, but this is Takara we are talking about. With the recent push to cartoon accuracy, I expect a Bee retool.

They still maintain real life accuracy for the cars, though.

I hope you are right but we will see. I need a good Cliffjumoer, and the 3rd party market hasn't delivered yet.

However, the discrepancy between how the Ferrari looks in real life and how Cliffjumper's altmode looked is probably why they haven't done Cliff yet. No matter what they go with, something won't look right to one person or another: If he's given a realistic altmode, then it won't look like how it looked in the cartoon; if he's given a cartoon-accurate altmode, then it will look scrunched compared to the real thing. It's a lose-lose situation.

But back to Cheetor:

Ironhidensh wrote:Do you honestly think that Takara won't straight repaint Tigatron?

With how slavishly beholden Takara is to the cartoon models (otherwise, they wouldn't have gone as far as they did with the extremely Mainframe-accurate designs of Primal's and Cheeotr's beast modes), I really can't see Takara being satisfied with MP Tigatron being just a straight redeco of Cheetor.

They certainly weren't satisfied with UW Scattershot being a mere straight redeco of CW Scattershot, and that's a character who was practically a footnote in his cartoons compared to the much more prominent (to his own cartoon) Tigatron.

Cliffjumper is a Porsche 924 Turbo, not a Ferrari. (Jazz is a Porsche 935 Turbo, wrap your brain around that!)

But yeah, the original Cheetor mold worked for Tigatron because it didn't look much like a cheetah in the first place (in fact it looks more like a tiger to begin with). The MP is very clearly a Cheetah in every way and no amount of white plastic and black stripes will make it look like a convincing tiger.

Plus I think we're long overdue for a good tiger figure. So many lions...

Emerje

Anybody have any news on the expected release of Cheetor? I know it was pushed back but Anime Export just emailed me saying:

We are checking availability
for this item. When restocked we
will notify you by email.
If unavailable we will refund you
in full.


Not sure how take that. Was it in stock at some point and I did not get an email requesting payment for shipping? Or has it simply not been in stock?

Seems something went wrong with Cheetor.