Devastator Now Available At Target.com

jamarmiller wrote:thanks for the pics, I was wondering specifically about that Skyfire, Starscream, and Optimus. The only other one Id wish I would have seen in these pics was toyworld Grimlock and other toyworld dinobots

YRQRM0 wrote:Really hoping he pops up at Costco for the holidays for cheap, like Metroplex.

albnok wrote:Not sure if anyone has posted, but here's Hasbro Combiner Wars Devastator next to Toyworld's dinobot combiner, next to Hasbro Combiner Wars Superion.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

albnok wrote:Not sure if anyone has posted, but here's Hasbro Combiner Wars Devastator next to Toyworld's dinobot combiner, next to Hasbro Combiner Wars Superion.

Wow that dinocombiner has hideous leg kibble

D@mn, and people give has/tak flack for reasonable kibble (some cases notwithstanding) that is just, no. He can't even stand in a normal manner with those 'legs'

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Longhaul is a "voyager" in name only. He's so big, he's really an ULTRA class figure. Not that I'm complaining, of course.

In all honesty, the best Devastator is the official HASTAK, CW titant class. Because not only he's the REAL Devastator, not a re-imagining, he's accurate to the G1 toy and cartoon to a T. Especially the "Cartoon colored" re-issue.

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Keep saving up! He'll be yours soon and nothing feels better than saving and buying something you really want

Btw do you wanna get that 3rd party Mixmaster to combine with Devy? I can't decide!

megatronus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Longhaul is a "voyager" in name only. He's so big, he's really an ULTRA class figure. Not that I'm complaining, of course.

In all honesty, the best Devastator is the official HASTAK, CW titant class. Because not only he's the REAL Devastator, not a re-imagining, he's accurate to the G1 toy and cartoon to a T. Especially the "Cartoon colored" re-issue.

I don't necessarily disagree, but technically CW Devy is a reimagining too, with the updated vehicles and all.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Keep saving up! He'll be yours soon and nothing feels better than saving and buying something you really want

Btw do you wanna get that 3rd party Mixmaster to combine with Devy? I can't decide!

Nah. I'm impressed by what I've seen in the reviews so I'll be sticking with the regular Devy

Crosscheck wrote:I am hoping that Costco gets Devastator like they did Metroplex. My only thought with that is that perhaps Hasbro learned their lesson and didn't over-purchase Devastator. The worst part is, that by the time I find out if they will have Devastator or not, he probably won't be available anywhere. I just can't really justify a $150 expenditure on a toy anymore.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Crosscheck wrote:I am hoping that Costco gets Devastator like they did Metroplex. My only thought with that is that perhaps Hasbro learned their lesson and didn't over-purchase Devastator. The worst part is, that by the time I find out if they will have Devastator or not, he probably won't be available anywhere. I just can't really justify a $150 expenditure on a toy anymore.

Just tell you that you are buying 6 voyagers at 25$ each. If you really love Devastator but wait for a sale, you may have to pay scalper prices down the line. However, if you don't care enough, skip it and save money.

Rainmaker wrote:Does anyone know the differences between the hasbro and takara devy?

Sabrblade wrote:All the known changes made to Takara Devastator compared to Hasbro's retail version:

• More show-accurate deco for both Devastator and the Constructicons
• A brand new headsculpt that contains a retractable visor to switch between both head designs
• Brand new gun weapons for each individual figure, all of which can store on Devastator's back
• Re-engineered arms for Scrapper to give him elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Long Haul to give him proper elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Hook to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Mixmaster to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered legs for Scavenger to give him better knees
• Re-engineered legs for Bonecrusher to give him better knees

Sabrblade wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:Does anyone know the differences between the hasbro and takara devy?

Sabrblade wrote:All the known changes made to Takara Devastator compared to Hasbro's retail version:

• More show-accurate deco for both Devastator and the Constructicons
• A brand new headsculpt that contains a retractable visor to switch between both head designs
• Brand new gun weapons for each individual figure, all of which can store on Devastator's back
• Re-engineered arms for Scrapper to give him elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Long Haul to give him proper elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Hook to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Mixmaster to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered legs for Scavenger to give him better knees
• Re-engineered legs for Bonecrusher to give him better knees

SillySpringer wrote:Their knees look the same.

Rainmaker wrote:Hm, kinda leaning towards the Takara version.

Rainmaker wrote:Hm, kinda leaning towards the Takara version.

carytheone wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:Hm, kinda leaning towards the Takara version.

I don't think you can go wrong with either version.

The lack of elbows on Hasbro's did limit the fun of the individual bots, but putting Devastator together was extremely satisfing. Very intuitive, clever and solid.

I view Takara's as the upgrade model with all the bells and whistles.

Madeus Prime wrote:Personally, I'm balancing out the costs of buying the Takara version versus buying the Hasbro version with the PE upgrade set...so far the latter is winning out.

Madeus Prime wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Their knees look the same.

Takara's are friction based, Hasbro's are ball jointed.
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Rainmaker wrote:Hm, kinda leaning towards the Takara version.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Saying this now: I am very sad to see the bad rap some reviewers are giving him. All of those reviewers are comparing him to a 3rd party Devy and that is honestly unfair. He is no 3rd party masterpiece, but he is a quarter of the price and designed for people with smaller budgets and with kids. Give this guy his dues: He is pretty well engineered in combined mode and for the individuals too

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Saying this now: I am very sad to see the bad rap some reviewers are giving him. All of those reviewers are comparing him to a 3rd party Devy and that is honestly unfair. He is no 3rd party masterpiece, but he is a quarter of the price and designed for people with smaller budgets and with kids. Give this guy his dues: He is pretty well engineered in combined mode and for the individuals too

albnok wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Saying this now: I am very sad to see the bad rap some reviewers are giving him. All of those reviewers are comparing him to a 3rd party Devy and that is honestly unfair. He is no 3rd party masterpiece, but he is a quarter of the price and designed for people with smaller budgets and with kids. Give this guy his dues: He is pretty well engineered in combined mode and for the individuals too

I love how his legs are cartoon-accurate, in that the thighs and calves are one continuous green brick with kibble in front. The third-party ones have their own aesthetic where the thigh is obviously different from the calf and looks less integrated, and often force a spread leg pose.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Saying this now: I am very sad to see the bad rap some reviewers are giving him. All of those reviewers are comparing him to a 3rd party Devy and that is honestly unfair. He is no 3rd party masterpiece, but he is a quarter of the price and designed for people with smaller budgets and with kids. Give this guy his dues: He is pretty well engineered in combined mode and for the individuals too

I think it is fair to point out flaws, the quality of the plastic is important for such a huge figure, as baltmatrix found out - to his dismay. If it is brittle or possibly going to break it's their job to warn us of these things. Visually, he is devestator, there is no 3p that beats it at that. I personally haven't seen any reviewers compare him to a 3p product, they just talk about how g1 he is, and how he has no articulation.

megatronus wrote:

albnok wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Saying this now: I am very sad to see the bad rap some reviewers are giving him. All of those reviewers are comparing him to a 3rd party Devy and that is honestly unfair. He is no 3rd party masterpiece, but he is a quarter of the price and designed for people with smaller budgets and with kids. Give this guy his dues: He is pretty well engineered in combined mode and for the individuals too

I love how his legs are cartoon-accurate, in that the thighs and calves are one continuous green brick with kibble in front. The third-party ones have their own aesthetic where the thigh is obviously different from the calf and looks less integrated, and often force a spread leg pose.

I would say that's a huge point in Hasbro's favor - because Long Haul is so freaking chubby, he can stand completely upright and isn't forced into an A-stance.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Saying this now: I am very sad to see the bad rap some reviewers are giving him. All of those reviewers are comparing him to a 3rd party Devy and that is honestly unfair. He is no 3rd party masterpiece, but he is a quarter of the price and designed for people with smaller budgets and with kids. Give this guy his dues: He is pretty well engineered in combined mode and for the individuals too

I think it is fair to point out flaws, the quality of the plastic is important for such a huge figure, as baltmatrix found out - to his dismay. If it is brittle or possibly going to break it's their job to warn us of these things. Visually, he is devestator, there is no 3p that beats it at that. I personally haven't seen any reviewers compare him to a 3p product, they just talk about how g1 he is, and how he has no articulation.

At the same time, the big reason I am bugged is because they are not giving enough credit to engineering on an affordable scale. 3rd party companies spoil those who make reviews cause they can afford it, and because they have all these guys they really look down on a hastak product as inferior, which as it may be true, it is shooting for something and people very different in audience. every reviewer i have watched has also reviewed a 3rd party version and grades hastak stuff as such against it

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Saying this now: I am very sad to see the bad rap some reviewers are giving him. All of those reviewers are comparing him to a 3rd party Devy and that is honestly unfair. He is no 3rd party masterpiece, but he is a quarter of the price and designed for people with smaller budgets and with kids. Give this guy his dues: He is pretty well engineered in combined mode and for the individuals too

I think it is fair to point out flaws, the quality of the plastic is important for such a huge figure, as baltmatrix found out - to his dismay. If it is brittle or possibly going to break it's their job to warn us of these things. Visually, he is devestator, there is no 3p that beats it at that. I personally haven't seen any reviewers compare him to a 3p product, they just talk about how g1 he is, and how he has no articulation.

At the same time, the big reason I am bugged is because they are not giving enough credit to engineering on an affordable scale. 3rd party companies spoil those who make reviews cause they can afford it, and because they have all these guys they really look down on a hastak product as inferior, which as it may be true, it is shooting for something and people very different in audience. every reviewer i have watched has also reviewed a 3rd party version and grades hastak stuff as such against it

While that is true, I think the plastic/engineering quality is something to be concerned about/interested in. Balts' scrappers' bucket arm snapped, and from what I've seen of everyone else, the plastic does seem super thin and brittle; now I realize that this yields a figure that is cheaper, and abnormally light and can thus hold many poses quite well, but what happens when it starts cracking from stress, or tight hinges? I've already seen that the ankle pivots are prone to breaking, scrappers bucket arm can break easily, and the shoulder joints seem to be prone to suffering from high amounts of stress.

megatronus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Saying this now: I am very sad to see the bad rap some reviewers are giving him. All of those reviewers are comparing him to a 3rd party Devy and that is honestly unfair. He is no 3rd party masterpiece, but he is a quarter of the price and designed for people with smaller budgets and with kids. Give this guy his dues: He is pretty well engineered in combined mode and for the individuals too

I think it is fair to point out flaws, the quality of the plastic is important for such a huge figure, as baltmatrix found out - to his dismay. If it is brittle or possibly going to break it's their job to warn us of these things. Visually, he is devestator, there is no 3p that beats it at that. I personally haven't seen any reviewers compare him to a 3p product, they just talk about how g1 he is, and how he has no articulation.

At the same time, the big reason I am bugged is because they are not giving enough credit to engineering on an affordable scale. 3rd party companies spoil those who make reviews cause they can afford it, and because they have all these guys they really look down on a hastak product as inferior, which as it may be true, it is shooting for something and people very different in audience. every reviewer i have watched has also reviewed a 3rd party version and grades hastak stuff as such against it

While that is true, I think the plastic/engineering quality is something to be concerned about/interested in. Balts' scrappers' bucket arm snapped, and from what I've seen of everyone else, the plastic does seem super thin and brittle; now I realize that this yields a figure that is cheaper, and abnormally light and can thus hold many poses quite well, but what happens when it starts cracking from stress, or tight hinges? I've already seen that the ankle pivots are prone to breaking, scrappers bucket arm can break easily, and the shoulder joints seem to be prone to suffering from high amounts of stress.

I would take Baltmatrix reviews with a grain of salt. He's the only reviewer I've seen who consistently breaks his figures. The guy is seriously ham-fisted.

Not to say it's not something to look out for; just that I would watch other reviewers too to get a wider sense of peoples' experiences with the set.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I may be biased, but my 200$ REAL Devastator cannot compare to a 600$ 3P combiner. He's the biggest, cheapest, and more G1 accurate. Sure, the individual bots are brickish and cheapo, but they are also perfect G1 accurate too. And big. And fun. And finally, I'm not afraid to pose the Big Guy. He will not fall appart on my for any reasons.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I may be biased, but my 200$ REAL Devastator cannot compare to a 600$ 3P combiner. He's the biggest, cheapest, and more G1 accurate. Sure, the individual bots are brickish and cheapo, but they are also perfect G1 accurate too. And big. And fun. And finally, I'm not afraid to pose the Big Guy. He will not fall appart on my for any reasons.

It's ok, I agree with you. this guy is official and still well designed. yeah he is a bit cheap-looking, but he pulls off what is desired: playability. He's not super complex and accurate; just accurate enough and good looking enough to do what he needs to, which is transform convincingly. And he is very G1 accurate paint and transformation and looks wise, which is also really cool

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I may be biased, but my 200$ REAL Devastator cannot compare to a 600$ 3P combiner. He's the biggest, cheapest, and more G1 accurate. Sure, the individual bots are brickish and cheapo, but they are also perfect G1 accurate too. And big. And fun. And finally, I'm not afraid to pose the Big Guy. He will not fall appart on my for any reasons.

It's ok, I agree with you. this guy is official and still well designed. yeah he is a bit cheap-looking, but he pulls off what is desired: playability. He's not super complex and accurate; just accurate enough and good looking enough to do what he needs to, which is transform convincingly. And he is very G1 accurate paint and transformation and looks wise, which is also really cool

At least the Transformations vary. The other combiner wars parts all use similar engineering and design

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:At least the Transformations vary. The other combiner wars parts all use similar engineering and design

albnok wrote:So big he peeks over from behind my 23" LED monitor.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:I've had Devastator for a week or two now but keeping going back and forth on whether I want to open it or return it and order the UW version. Decisions decisions.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:I've had Devastator for a week or two now but keeping going back and forth on whether I want to open it or return it and order the UW version. Decisions decisions.

Why not go for both? I personally think that either Devastator will be a worthy investment for the future. If you plan to have Devy often in their individual bot modes, order the Takara version and keep the Hasbro one MISB. If you plan to mostly display Devy in combined mode, open Hasbro and keep Takara MISB.

Having the money, I wouldnt be able to wait and go for the second option.
Also, don't forget that the Takara one will cost at least 100$ more than the Hasbro version, if you consider the basic price difference, shipping, and possibly custom fees.

megatronus wrote:I plan on getting both. I already ordered the Takara version from Anime Export for the exceedingly reasonable $145, and plan to pick up the Hasbro version when (if) it goes on sale.

Sabrblade wrote:

megatronus wrote:I plan on getting both. I already ordered the Takara version from Anime Export for the exceedingly reasonable $145, and plan to pick up the Hasbro version when (if) it goes on sale.

How does Anime Export compare to HLJ? Do you have to pay upfront when you preorder or do they wait and charge you after it comes in stock? And do they ship it out immediately and charge shipping with the purchase payment or do you get to wait and ship it later as a second shipping payment?