Details from Rumoured Test Screenings for Transformers Rise of the Beasts
Wednesday, December 14th, 2022 9:50PM CST
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1. This could all be fabrications
2. Avoid if you want no SPOILERS, even though this may be misinformation
3. Below is a composite of 2 viewers who may have had different cuts shown to them
4. As with test screenings, what is shown may be heavily changed for the final film
5. The sources will not be given to protect whoever transcribed this, if whoever transcribed this wants to be credited, let us know.
-The basic plot Synopsis is that the Autobots and Terrorcons are fighting over these "Transwarp" keys. The Autobots want them to [go] home, while the Terrorcons want them to bring Unicron to Earth
-There was one decepticon at the beginning. He was a generic no name, but he turned into a bus. Prime kills him in the beginning to give you that Bot vs Con feel.
-Optimus Prime will start the movie as being distrustful/aloof of humans, but will learn to care for them and become a protector during the film.
-Bumblbee isn't in it much. He talks radio like we're used too. Nothing specific about his past adventure, but he does try to tell Prime humans ain't all bad earlier in the film.
-Mirage is the human-friend of the film, meets Noah (anthony ramos). Reminded Source of Sam and Bee, i.e. the "stolen car" chase
-There is an implied past relationship between Arcee and Wheeljack, and there are sexual jokes that are weird and random
-The Wheeljack head change is unfortunately true. He has a generic autobot face with big dorky glasses, not like Que's.
-Heroes go to Peru/Machu Picchu via a cargo plane Transformer, to look for part of a key.
-The cargo ship IS Stratosphere. Our cut had him voiced by John DiMaggio with a Scotsman voice. [It sounds like] the actor who voiced Arcee in Prime did the voice in this movie too.
-[regarding the Maximals] Airrazor and Primal do most of the talking. Airrazor is a kind and wise maximal who is used to becoming exposition for our heroes. Primal is a proud warrior who is tasked to guarding on of the keys with Cheetor and Rhinox. He kinda mentors Prime a bit about being kind and trust humans. Cheetor and Rhinox are just there. Cheetor says a few lines and even calls Primal boss bot. Rhinox says one line and they all laugh it off like "You can talk?". They have their maximize moment, but the ps2 graphics that were their character models made them like all the same unfortunately. I'm sure that will be different when it's finished
-Action is great but gets messy
-[Airrazor] is attacked by the terrorcons and hacked, turns evil.
-Scourge, the main Terrorcon of the 3, activates a beam in the sky in which more enemies come out of. Maximals and Autobots fight and defeat them.
-There are no true Predacons. Only a bunch of Scorponoks (?) But they don't do anything other than be scorpions.
-The designs [of those scorpions] were original. They were larger than your average transformer
-[Dominique Fishback's character Elena] was SO bland. He character is a museum intern who wants to work for the museum and she has the knowledge for it, but that gets left behind completely. When all is said and done, she doesn't even get a little resolution at the end. She only there to read old maximal hyroglphs.
-No military [in the film]. Just suburban kids and robots. The main humans are Noah and Elena and Noah's sick brother as the largest support character. There's other small roles obviously, but those three are the most important
There is also a report of a midcredit sting with Unicron. Interestingly, there is no mention of time travel, so what we, and other publications, suggested here might not come to pass afterall.
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Posted by Sabrblade on December 14th, 2022 @ 10:32pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 14th, 2022 @ 11:28pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Well, the note about Arcee's voice actress being the same one from Prime is completely bogus, since her voice actress has already been confirmed to instead be Liza Koshy, not Sumalee Montano.
They didn't know the facts, just that it sounds like her
Posted by 84everfan on December 15th, 2022 @ 1:13am CST
David Kaye and Garry Chalk don't exist, I guess.
God forbid we have Predacons in our Beast Wars movie.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 15th, 2022 @ 1:20am CST
But this isn't a Beast Wars movie. A separate Beast Wars movie is coming later.84everfan wrote:Wow, this sounds... Just awful.
David Kaye and Garry Chalk don't exist, I guess.
God forbid we have Predacons in our Beast Wars movie.
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2022 @ 1:35am CST
Sabrblade wrote:But this isn't a Beast Wars movie. A separate Beast Wars movie is coming later.84everfan wrote:Wow, this sounds... Just awful.
David Kaye and Garry Chalk don't exist, I guess.
God forbid we have Predacons in our Beast Wars movie.
I thought that was no longer on the radar. Hasbro just includes this film and the animated TF film on their upcoming slate.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 15th, 2022 @ 1:42am CST
Oh? I thought it had been said somewhere that it was coming later.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But this isn't a Beast Wars movie. A separate Beast Wars movie is coming later.84everfan wrote:Wow, this sounds... Just awful.
David Kaye and Garry Chalk don't exist, I guess.
God forbid we have Predacons in our Beast Wars movie.
I thought that was no longer on the radar. Hasbro just includes this film and the animated TF film on their upcoming slate.
Either way, this isn't Beast Wars. It's Rise of the Beasts.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 15th, 2022 @ 1:58am CST
Posted by griftimus prime on December 15th, 2022 @ 5:34am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 15th, 2022 @ 5:49am CST
griftimus prime wrote:bring unicron to earth? i thought unicron IS the earth
Assuming this is real, the I'm guessing they're cutting tlk free...which I can agree with.
Posted by Brokebot on December 15th, 2022 @ 6:01am CST
One day maybe we'll get a movie made by people who actually give a damn about the material and characters, but I suspect I won't live long enough to see it.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 15th, 2022 @ 6:04am CST
Also wish they wouldn't keep holding out the Unicron carrot all the time. There is a wealth of Transformers lore waiting to make it to Live Action. That has more to do and say than the Chaos Bringer.
Posted by Deadput on December 15th, 2022 @ 6:48am CST
-"Transwarp" keys (Hasbro descriptions for Battletrap mention them)
-The Wheeljack head change (The toy leak)
-Stratosphere voiced by John DiMaggio. (Was part of the recent cast reveal news)
- Sky Beam and the Predacons that Maximals and Autobots team up to fight (While the actual the sky beam and if the enemies are Predacons aren't confirmed themselves, the end of the trailer does show a big device/tower and there seems to be a bunch of lanky generics that clash with the Autobots/Maximals so there is at least a similar detail)
As for stuff that might be true based on snippets of info, the pieces aren't all there but there is some.
-decepticon bus (I was looking at the movie thread on TFW and one thing some users noted is that there was a worn-looking Bus present during filming and it was spotted again in the background in a image-tweet regarding reshoots, that doesn't confirm the bus is a con but it does confirm there is a bus in the film)
-Mirage is the human-friend (Mirage and Noah do have some interaction in the trailer and there is more focus on Mirage than Bumblebee in regards to human relations so it's likely)
-Airrazor is attacked, hacked, turns evil. (Might be a stretch but we do see her breathing fire at a bridge where Optimus is kinda approaching in the background of the shot, it is unusual for a good-aligned character to be causing potential damage like this)
- Terrocon and Unicron connection (It's worth to note that the design of the group's insignia and Scourge's headsculpt do resemble Unicron, in addition the group's name has been used in the past for Unicron related things like in Transformers Prime)
Anyways if all this is true that leaves me worried about this bit.
-There is an implied past relationship between Arcee and Wheeljack, and there are sexual jokes that are weird and random (If this is true and as bad as I'm imagining, Hasbro you are allowed to put your foot down for the benefit of the children and teens this nonsense isn't necessary and never will be in a Transformers film.)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 15th, 2022 @ 6:50am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's always been really limiting as a concept. You can't have Unicron transform if it destroys the Earth to do so. Therefore removing the main draw of actually seeing him.
Also wish they wouldn't keep holding out the Unicron carrot all the time. There is a wealth of Transformers lore waiting to make it to Live Action. That has more to do and say than the Chaos Bringer.
It's probably because more people are aware of Unicron as a concept, but he is diminishing returns. Problem is if the suits fancy taking a risk on any other branch of lore from the wealth of fiction from the almost 40 years the brand has been going.
Posted by Deadput on December 15th, 2022 @ 6:57am CST
It's concerning that The Fallen who shows up less often than Unicron is to a degree someone who can be more interesting than him.
I really hope that one day a film, show or comic establishes more of a character and motivation for him that isn't just being a wanderer who eats planets, someone who can be on par with Megatron and other notable franchise antagonists.
Posted by Cheesinator on December 15th, 2022 @ 7:43am CST
Could still be terrible if the majority of screentime is cringey comedy and contrived drama for the humans, which is my main concern. I'm surprised there's not much comment on that beyond mentioning lack of military.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 15th, 2022 @ 8:00am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:It's probably because more people are aware of Unicron as a concept, but he is diminishing returns.
Deadput wrote:My issue with Unicron is that almost every time he's used he ends up being bland, lacking in character and too obvious a plot device, and the first 2 is for when he actually shows up as a character and isn't just a looming threat that might not even show up.
It's concerning that The Fallen who shows up less often than Unicron is to a degree someone who can be more interesting than him.
I really hope that one day a film, show or comic establishes more of a character and motivation for him that isn't just being a wanderer who eats planets, someone who can be on par with Megatron and other notable franchise antagonists.
See, it's exactly that. As great as he was in the '86 Movie (mostly down to Orson Welles). Unicron is a one trick pony. A plot device. The Comics bring him in to end their respective runs. Even UT arguably didn't add anything major to his characterisation either. Ironic, in hindsight.
That's why he should be something esoteric within Transformers lore. Akin to a Lovecraftian Elder God. A name with cult-like/deific worship. He shouldn't be a physical thing in Live Action. Because he can't be fought. Even in animation, as soon as he transforms, he stands still until plot happens.
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2022 @ 8:48am CST
Deadput wrote:Anyways if all this is true that leaves me worried about this bit.
-There is an implied past relationship between Arcee and Wheeljack, and there are sexual jokes that are weird and random (If this is true and as bad as I'm imagining, Hasbro you are allowed to put your foot down for the benefit of the children and teens this nonsense isn't necessary and never will be in a Transformers film.)
I'm a bit less worried because this is just dialogue that could be cut if it didn't go over well with the audience. So this could all be real, but it also doesn't mean we'll get it in the end.
Cheesinator wrote:Maybe I've been successfully conditioned by the previous live action movies, but hearing that it's a relatively simple plot with lots of bot interaction and fight scenes sounds pretty positive to me.
Could still be terrible if the majority of screentime is cringey comedy and contrived drama for the humans, which is my main concern. I'm surprised there's not much comment on that beyond mentioning lack of military.
This is exactly where I stand, to a T. Many were worried there would be a lot of emphasis on humans and while I am sure that part will still be there, the bots seem to be at the forefront here. Which would be a first. Low bar, I know, but I don't know what else people would expect from a live action Transformers film at this point.
Brokebot wrote:Yeah . . . looks like I'll be watching this movie by way of YouTube highlights.
One day maybe we'll get a movie made by people who actually give a damn about the material and characters, but I suspect I won't live long enough to see it.
Here's a good example. I am curious, Brokebot, what were you expecting in terms of a live action film and what in the description made it a certainty that you wouldn't watch all of it?
And I will agree with everyone that Unicron is a one note plot/character, and that's by design. Even without any of these "leaks", I think there's good evidence to Unicron's peripheral involvement, simply through designs. Though it being peripheral means that element could be cut if audiences don't test well with it.
And the questions as to why Unicron is coming rather than being on Earth are valid, since it seems Hasbro/Paramount is still skirting around the whole "Reboot but still Bayverse, so not a full reboot" idea and will not offer a clean break for fans, let alone casual viewers, to know if this isn't meant to be associated to the past films. I expect more frustration.
Posted by noctorro on December 15th, 2022 @ 9:39am CST
I don't need to know details about the plot.
Just make it those stars or stripes or whatever. Don't blatantly post it on da frontpage pls
Even if the story is going to be a bland, written by a braindamaged gerbil, "modern" hollywood nightmare.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 15th, 2022 @ 10:50am CST
The Armada cartoon was the closest he ever came to being a Lovecraftian Eldritch entity. He was at his most alien in that series. A seeming force of nature that fed off hated and violence, inner workings that were gross and semi-organic, supernatural abilities that bordered on magical, reality-bending and dimensional-warping powers used to toy with the minds of lesser beings, use of avatars to communicate with said lesser beings, a voice that sounded as emotionless and otherworldly as the original Orson Welles voice (particularly in the Japanese version), creating life from his very cells just to stir up the existing Autobot/Decepticon conflict. Armada cartoon Unicron was truly one of the most frightening depictions of the character. The true monster wasn't the giant moon-sized robot that loomed in Cybertron's orbit, but the horrific monstrosity that lay deep inside that giant outer shell.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:See, it's exactly that. As great as he was in the '86 Movie (mostly down to Orson Welles). Unicron is a one trick pony. A plot device. The Comics bring him in to end their respective runs. Even UT arguably didn't add anything major to his characterisation either. Ironic, in hindsight.
That's why he should be something esoteric within Transformers lore. Akin to a Lovecraftian Elder God. A name with cult-like/deific worship. He shouldn't be a physical thing in Live Action. Because he can't be fought. Even in animation, as soon as he transforms, he stands still until plot happens.
And since not many in the West have seen it, not many know about the Beast Wars Neo depiction of Unicron. A vicious creature made of pure energy, this version of Unicron was a nigh-invincible being who, instead of being a giant-sized looming threat all the time, was standard Transformer-sized and got down and dirty from the moment he was resurrected. Instead of only using minions, he would get up close and personal, directly mopping the floor with Big Convoy and his teammates in every episode, decimating all in his path, and LOVING every moment of it. He was very sadistic in this series, cockily and gleefully relishing in all of the pain and destruction he caused in his quest to reacquire all of his Angolmois Energy and get back to Cybertron. And what's more, this version of Unicron made it a point to explicitly note that he was NOT a god, but that he desired to become a god, wanting to do so by merging with Vector Sigma and making Cybertron itself his new body.
There's also Shattered Glass Unicron, but not much has been done with him as a good guy.
And then there's the more recent "End of G1 Universe" manga that provides the newest and most different take on Unicron, in which Dark Amber Leo Prime is presented as a new being born from a fusion of Unicron and Lio Convoy, creating a morally-ambiguous character who is both self-aware of his past as Unicron but also unsure of his place in the world, almost like this version is an actual attempt at trying to reform and rehabilitate the evil Unicron into a not-so-evil character, something that's never been done before.
Posted by First-Aid on December 15th, 2022 @ 12:46pm CST
Do I care if it's accurate to Beast Wars or Geewun? Nope. All that matters is that I can turn my brain off, leave my troubles behind, and have a good time for a couple hours. I don't want to over analyze it. I don't want to analyze it period. My big question for these sources: WAS IT FUN?
I'll wait for my answer...
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 15th, 2022 @ 1:06pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:The Armada cartoon was the closest he ever came to being a Lovecraftian Eldritch entity.
The difference is that most of Lovecraft's pantheon are beyond good and evil. Unicron is one note, even in the Japanese depictions, because he is just evil. Unlike say, Marvel's Galactus or even Shadow Raiders' Beast Planet, there is no nuance there. The latter was so alien it's very nature and motivations were never revealed.
Unfortunately, that added depth doesn't happen in TF Fiction to anyone (non-Autobot) that doesn't have -Tron at the end of their name.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 15th, 2022 @ 3:16pm CST
Or don't sit down and watch at all, and save a couple of hours of your life.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When Rise of Beasts comes out. Just sit down and watch with the mindset that this is the sequel to the Bumblebee Movie
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 15th, 2022 @ 3:35pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Or don't sit down and watch at all, and save a couple of hours of your life.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When Rise of Beasts comes out. Just sit down and watch with the mindset that this is the sequel to the Bumblebee Movie
Prior to Bumblebee, that was the conclusion I reached after Dark of the Moon. Still haven't really seen the Bayformers that followed.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 15th, 2022 @ 3:45pm CST
For what it's worth, if I had decided to see the new film, that's how I would have looked at it. A sequel to the Bumblebee movie.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Or don't sit down and watch at all, and save a couple of hours of your life.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When Rise of Beasts comes out. Just sit down and watch with the mindset that this is the sequel to the Bumblebee Movie
Prior to Bumblebee, that was the conclusion I reached after Dark of the Moon. Still haven't really seen the Bayformers that followed.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on December 15th, 2022 @ 3:48pm CST
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 15th, 2022 @ 4:01pm CST
The summary mentions that there is a reference made to TLK, that Unicron was defeated in that timeline, and sent the Terrorcons back in time just before his demise with the transwarp keys to prevent his defeat, but the Maximals were able to get the keys and have been hiding them since. Sending the Maximals and Terrorcons back in time results in a splinter timeline, so that there are some Bayverse influences but the movies are free to do their own thing.
Again, grain of salt, but I actually really like this idea. It indirectly wraps up the Bayverse with a happy ending!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 15th, 2022 @ 4:05pm CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I just came across another summary for ROTB that reads nearly identically to the one mentioned above but adds something else. I’d take this with a grain of salt, but it is interesting:
The summary mentions that there is a reference made to TLK, that Unicron was defeated in that timeline, and sent the Terrorcons back in time just before his demise with the transwarp keys to prevent his defeat, but the Maximals were able to get the keys and have been hiding them since. Sending the Maximals and Terrorcons back in time results in a splinter timeline, so that there are some Bayverse influences but the movies are free to do their own thing.
Again, grain of salt, but I actually really like this idea. It indirectly wraps up the Bayverse with a happy ending!
I actually like this too
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 15th, 2022 @ 4:27pm CST
Yeah, it sounds very convenient to the filmmakers and at the same time cheats the viewers out of an actual ending for the Walhberg films (which was also supposed to be a trilogy?) And sets up a rather lazy story for the New film. But, again, I'm not surprised. Just suspicions confirmed.EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I just came across another summary for ROTB that reads nearly identically to the one mentioned above but adds something else. I’d take this with a grain of salt, but it is interesting:
The summary mentions that there is a reference made to TLK, that Unicron was defeated in that timeline, and sent the Terrorcons back in time just before his demise with the transwarp keys to prevent his defeat, but the Maximals were able to get the keys and have been hiding them since. Sending the Maximals and Terrorcons back in time results in a splinter timeline, so that there are some Bayverse influences but the movies are free to do their own thing.
Again, grain of salt, but I actually really like this idea. It indirectly wraps up the Bayverse with a happy ending!
Posted by DeathReviews on December 15th, 2022 @ 4:31pm CST
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 15th, 2022 @ 7:38pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2022 @ 9:33pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:For what it's worth, if I had decided to see the new film, that's how I would have looked at it. A sequel to the Bumblebee movie.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Or don't sit down and watch at all, and save a couple of hours of your life.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:When Rise of Beasts comes out. Just sit down and watch with the mindset that this is the sequel to the Bumblebee Movie
Prior to Bumblebee, that was the conclusion I reached after Dark of the Moon. Still haven't really seen the Bayformers that followed.
At the same time, it being a sequel to Bumblebee, if it even still is that, is what helped create the meltdown we saw over the Wheeljack design change.
Posted by william-james88 on December 15th, 2022 @ 9:49pm CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I just came across another summary for ROTB that reads nearly identically to the one mentioned above but adds something else. I’d take this with a grain of salt, but it is interesting:
The summary mentions that there is a reference made to TLK, that Unicron was defeated in that timeline, and sent the Terrorcons back in time just before his demise with the transwarp keys to prevent his defeat, but the Maximals were able to get the keys and have been hiding them since. Sending the Maximals and Terrorcons back in time results in a splinter timeline, so that there are some Bayverse influences but the movies are free to do their own thing.
Again, grain of salt, but I actually really like this idea. It indirectly wraps up the Bayverse with a happy ending!
Thanks. I knew I had read that before but for some reason it was not part of either of the 2 summaries I found when writing the article.
Posted by Deadput on December 15th, 2022 @ 11:10pm CST
We shall see if those end up being true or not as well.
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on December 16th, 2022 @ 2:45am CST
First-Aid wrote:In the end, the big question is this: is it FUN?
Do I care if it's accurate to Beast Wars or Geewun? Nope. All that matters is that I can turn my brain off, leave my troubles behind, and have a good time for a couple hours. I don't want to over analyze it. I don't want to analyze it period. My big question for these sources: WAS IT FUN?
I'll wait for my answer...
I mean, I have no desire to “turn my brain off” when viewing film, an artform that demands analysis and criticism. But you do you.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 16th, 2022 @ 11:44am CST
Given all the info we've gotten so far, it most likely will be.Cyber Bishop wrote:Sounds like complete steaming horsecrap.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 16th, 2022 @ 12:53pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Given all the info we've gotten so far, it most likely will be.Cyber Bishop wrote:Sounds like complete steaming horsecrap.
Well, it will be bullcrap if the get the same treatment as the Dinobots in AoE. Barely 10 minutes of screen time with no story whatsoever.
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2022 @ 2:05pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Given all the info we've gotten so far, it most likely will be.Cyber Bishop wrote:Sounds like complete steaming horsecrap.
Well, it will be bullcrap if the get the same treatment as the Dinobots in AoE. Barely 10 minutes of screen time with no story whatsoever.
I think we will get quite a bit of Optimus Primal. From all that we know, a big chunk of the film will be in Peru and that segment is more bot heavy than people heavy.
Posted by william-james88 on December 16th, 2022 @ 2:09pm CST
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Worked fine for me.First-Aid wrote:Link isn't working.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 16th, 2022 @ 3:06pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Worked fine for me.First-Aid wrote:Link isn't working.
Must be a region thing.
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Posted by william-james88 on December 26th, 2022 @ 9:06am CST
rairakku16 wrote:Any confirmed Decepticons and Predacons? I know that a Decepticon generic is in the beginning and he gets killed by Optimus.
None confirmed as of now.
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