Decepticons Revealed for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege #NYCC

So is Soundwave a space barge now? I can tug it!

Thar Reflector, hot diggity damn!

Whelp, that Shockwave just nullified any need for the large Cyberverse one.

REFLECTOR!? IS THAT A REFLECTOR I SEE?! WAS THAT EVEN CONSIDERED?! Did we even stop to consider reflector? I don't think we did.

Reminder that reflector will cost ~$51 USD to have a full camera. Yikes . Still getting them all though

Awesome!

wew lads

Updated with Starscream too!

Reflector looks so good!
I still don't know what Soundwave transforms into but I will probably buy it.

So reflector definitely looks like 3 bots in Camera mode. Are they 3 identical bots to buy separately? Or do we buy a Deluxe/Voyager reflector pack and get all 3?

mordhelm wrote:So reflector definitely looks like 3 bots in Camera mode. Are they 3 identical bots to buy separately? Or do we buy a Deluxe/Voyager reflector pack and get all 3?

looks like the same bot we have to buy thee times. Each of them comes with 1/3 of the scope and stand.

william-james88 wrote:

mordhelm wrote:So reflector definitely looks like 3 bots in Camera mode. Are they 3 identical bots to buy separately? Or do we buy a Deluxe/Voyager reflector pack and get all 3?

looks like the same bot we have to buy thee times. Each of them comes with 1/3 of the scope and stand.

Kudos on the design, terrible idea on the packaging. Assuming they are Deluxe, and normal wave distribution with only 2 per case...

these look awesome so far... not sure how many bots is reflector nor what sound wave is supposed to be but I like them lots...

the tetra jets look a bit less imposing with their blunted out nosecones...

think what they did with shockwave and the weapon gimmicks is pretty good.

now if only they gave TR sound wave those g1 style weapons

Could I not just buy Shockwave but without all that unnecessary crap with him? It looks like he killed other Shockwaves and used their body parts for evil reasons

Soundwave looks ok i guess if you like Soundwave. Alt-mode looks like junk though but preferable to a tape deck at least.

Megatron looks decent. Pass on the sword but it looks like it's got the gun turret inside it so looks necessary for alt-mode annoyingly.

Reflector is and always will be a stupid concept but if you're gonna buy it then i suppose that looks the best way.

Starscream doesn't do it for me at all. Was never fond of the G1 seeker bot form anyways but that cybertronian jet isn't my thing. (hey at least it looks cybertronian though, unlike certain autobots vehicle forms)

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

mordhelm wrote:So reflector definitely looks like 3 bots in Camera mode. Are they 3 identical bots to buy separately? Or do we buy a Deluxe/Voyager reflector pack and get all 3?

looks like the same bot we have to buy thee times. Each of them comes with 1/3 of the scope and stand.

Kudos on the design, terrible idea on the packaging. Assuming they are Deluxe, and normal wave distribution with only 2 per case...

I'd assume legend class. Still that puts us at least $30, which I'll gladly pay. A three pack would simplify my life though.

Reflecor FINALLY gets some love.

So what size is Shockwave without the armor, Voyager?

carytheone wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

mordhelm wrote:So reflector definitely looks like 3 bots in Camera mode. Are they 3 identical bots to buy separately? Or do we buy a Deluxe/Voyager reflector pack and get all 3?

looks like the same bot we have to buy thee times. Each of them comes with 1/3 of the scope and stand.

Kudos on the design, terrible idea on the packaging. Assuming they are Deluxe, and normal wave distribution with only 2 per case...

I'd assume legend class. Still that puts us at least $30, which I'll gladly pay. A three pack would simplify my life though.

I have no problem with the price on buying 3 of them. I think the problem is going to be finding 3 of them unless Hasbro sends a solid case of them instead of mixed with others. Plus, there is no legends class in Siege.

RiddlerJ wrote:Reflecor FINALLY gets some love.

So what size is Shockwave without the armor, Voyager?

I'm assuming he's voyager size with that silly backpack crud to make it Leader costs.

Nice to see some Cybertron modes on Cybertron figures even if Soundwave is a...a...a *maybe it can be a lamp post and salvage the alt mode or something). Still might be a possible buy, hoping his mini bots are good this time around.

Megatron doesnt look a vast difference to the TR figure to justify a buy, other than having him being different to a blitzwing repaint, but nah, money saved.

Reflector hell yes,

Shockwave, I really like the spaceship mode on this one (reminds a bit of SDF-1 and japanese anime in general, especially how robot mode can use the platform) so it will likely replace my energon shockwave as my 'toy' display version.

Starscream, looks a bit of a mess on his undercarriage but picking up either way as it's different from the classics and the POTP and CW versions were very easy passes for me. In robot mode it looks hard to tell that it doesnt turn into a G1 Jet rather than a G1 Tetra Jet.

As choosey as I'm over this line, Hasbro is doing pretty well so far.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I have no problem with the price on buying 3 of them. I think the problem is going to be finding 3 of them unless Hasbro sends a solid case of them instead of mixed with others. Plus, there is no legends class in Siege.

I often see the car part of Battletrap selling in stores without the helicopter guy (I can't remember the indiviual names they've been given) to be found at all.

Shockwave is absolutely bought on sight, I'm guessing we would've got this exact figure in Power of the Primes had Shockwave won that fan poll. Soundwave I'd say is a maybe at this point, the robot mode is nice, but I don't like the battle damage detailing and I'm not sure what to think about the vehicle mode. Megatron looks okay, but I'm skipping both him and Starscream because I'm still satisfied with the Combiner Wars versions.

I'm a bit confused as to whether or not Shockwave has an alt-mode without the backpack required. I wouldn't have minded buying a voyager class item of just that figure but Leader price is way too much when I don't like the backpack part at all.

May or may not get Megatron if I may or may not get the Prime. I dunno. This line's not doing it for me generally.

More stuff!

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ift/42171/

I gotta go get ready to go out so I'mma leave you guys to enjoy your toy reveals. I might come back later to check out the Omega and see what it's like but I reckon this toyline be one I'm likely skipping the vast majority, if not all, the figures. Blocky bots just aren't my thing. Have fun.

Finally the 'Cons get shown and I'm quite disappointed.

Megs look goot, but I'm happy with my TR version (maybe if the do an Archforce version)
Soundwave is a joke, what sort of alt mode is that?
Shockwave screams ripoff like Energon Bulkhead with is "leader" class only due to some crappy armour add-ons which make it look like he killed his clone and is now wearing his corpse.
Reflector looks good, alt mode is strange and the three for a camera is a nice touch, but I don't want to by 3 of the same toy.
Starscream is meh, both modes are serviceable but nothing wowing.

I have just one complaint so far. Soundwave's eyes should be RED, Hasbro! RED! Otherwise, things look fantastic!

Where have I seen that altmode for starscream ah yes I remember

Shockwave's with the armor add-ons looks like a neo zeong with legs. I will probably buy him just for the smaller robot.

Full-Tilt wrote:Shockwave's with the armor add-ons looks like a neo zeong with legs. I will probably buy him just for the smaller robot.

I was just going to post what I said elsewhere: that he looks like a 'final boss' of some Gundam series.

Holy Moses, that Shockwave is like...a Shockwave and a half!

Finally a Goyager class Soundwave, and a Starscream without Popeye arms!

The robot modes look great!

But these vehicles modes I'not so sure.

Megatron looks the best right now.

starrhero wrote:REFLECTOR!? IS THAT A REFLECTOR I SEE?! WAS THAT EVEN CONSIDERED?! Did we even stop to consider reflector? I don't think we did.

Im just as sbocked as you....cant believe i di DC nt think about him/them. Talk about a surprise!

These Decepticons are beautiful, hehe. Megs looks great, but I have Maketoys CD Megatron and love it. Soundwave is awesome, strange alt-mode, but robot mode makes up for it. If they do a repaint Soundblaster its bought on sight, Soundwave, not sure yet. Refelctor is really cool if its smaller than a deluxe and I like they are packaged seperate for people who want to army build. Shockwave in his voyager form is perfect and I will buy it for sure. Guess at leader this would be his PotP if he won. Starscream looks cool but I dont need one as I have Planet X Starscream and love it. Also I have iGear Raptor Thundercracker, but if they make a Skywarp I am all over it. Good stuff in this line so far, no complaints really.

Not really feeling the "battle damaged" look. maybe a little rubbing alcohol can get rid of them. its cool they are doing a before G1 thing but some of these just dont make sense to me.

For example shockwave. shockwave never left cybertron so we should have gotten a faithful G1 version. i cant see laws getting in the way of that since they can sell nerf guns and that combo mode with extra arms, no.

Same with megatron. I get that they are doing the "he's a tank" thing because they want to get away from the whole making him look like a real gun but they could have made him like galvatron and he turns into a space gun. that would make more sense and be less like the TR version. We have a G1 looking megs tank, we dont need a dirty one.

good to see reflector finally. hopefully no battle damage so he can fit into any collection.

and what the hell did they do to soundwave? we actually saw his mode in the pilot episode being a...card reader? scanner thing? sure that would be kinda lame but this alt mode is terrible and has no ties to G1.

HORMFGCUWIXFTDJAAMXIAhhhh...

I need a towel.

I absolutely need every one of these!

So... Still no pics of Skytread. That's annoying

AAARGH why did I just get TR Soundwave and all the TR minions

https://twitter.com/tfradio/status/1047 ... 71842?s=19

I don’t know why, but I’m really hoping you can make a second complete Shockwave out of the extra bits

Just saw that Warden said Reflector is Deluxe.

Edit: Also who in the heck is the big purple guy (not Shockwave). This is video from the display btw, not the reveal.

Edit #2: Holy crap that's Brunt.

REFLECTOR. W00T.

Sorry Battletrap fans, at a glance it looks like Skytread is a partsformer instead of two combined robots.

https://twitter.com/tfradio/status/1047 ... 69472?s=19

I'm just happy I'll have both Duocons.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Sorry Battletrap fans, at a glance it looks like Skytread is a partsformer instead of two combined robots.

https://twitter.com/tfradio/status/1047 ... 69472?s=19

I'm just happy I'll have both Duocons.

No he ain't! That looks like it's 2 different bots there, even the reply says that it's 2 bots.

I wanted to reply to too many people so I will just write it here and if you'll know if I am referring to what you said.

Soundwave: The fuck am I looking at with the alt mode? I have liked most of the alt modes for Soundwave so far but this one just doesnt work for me. It looks like a fat version of Alpha Trion's spaceship mode (same transformation too). It just feels like the least impressive alt mode that could have been done with that boxy body. Robot mode looks good though.

Shockwave: I knew this was coming but what I didnt predict was how useless that extra stuff would be. I dont need it and I hope that voyager at least turns into something on its own. I do not likethe idea of paying more for something I dont need. And it is super weird that his backpack is made up of other shockwave parts. Robot mode looks good though and I guess my Cyberverse Ultra's stay on my shelf will be short lived.

Megatron: Its fine, I have no problems with it. I like how I cant tell where everything goes unlike I did with the previous leader figure. And the sword is a nice homage to the G1 toy.

Reflector: Super puzzling as to the size. As far as I know there are no legends class toys in this line, so he would be a deluxe, but that sounds too big. Dont know. Smart execution though, probably the best of the bunch here.

Starscream: It reminds me of when we saw the POTP voyager starscream where we finally got a voyager sized seeker for generations, and yet I dont feel this outgoing excitement. There is something off with those proportions, its a very boxy look. The alt mode is supposed to be much sleeker but here it looks rather chubby, plus not a fan of that undercarriage. Its interesting how the closer they get to gving us a G1 rendition, the more critical we get.

Still a bit pissed I have to pay more for that voyager shockwave and that soundwave turns into nothing. Its like they went, "hey remember that cool alt mode we gave Optimus Primal in POTP, Soudwave should get that too".

Warden specifically said Skytread is compatible with Battletrap, but the components are not separate bots.

Ok, there is too much excitement going on right here, and though not everything is perfect, (Looking at you Soundwave) there is still something here for everyone to like.

I do have a question though, who the heck is this?



Credit to the image goes to Radio Free Cybertron. I can't tell if it's anyone specific. He's also standing in front of some Micromasters.

Edit: Whoever it is, he's a weaponizer. There are other images of this guy's components separated and attached to reflector.

starrhero wrote:Ok, there is too much excitement going on right here, and though not everything is perfect, (Looking at you Soundwave) there is still something here for everyone to like.

I do have a question though, who the heck is this?



Credit to the image goes to Radio Free Cybertron. I can't tell if it's anyone specific. He's also standing in front of some Micromasters.

Edit: Whoever it is, he's a weponizer. There are other images of this guy's components separated and attached to reflector.

It's Brunt, now with a robot mode!

So...No exclusive figure for the convention? I konw not every convention has had one, but like last years Grotusque, I was hoping for a last shot at something from PotP...Oh well

Could the purple guy be a heavily redesigned Fasttrack?

Edit: Okay, Brunt-with-a-robot-mode make more sense give the Weaponizers seem tied to pre-existing Citybots which got a Generations release.

I think I'll get alla of them... Shockwave and Starcsream are simply fantastic!

This Siege line is really the best from TFs since a long time.

I just hope they will all reach Italy...

Figures in Seige won't have a gimmick that they traditionally didn't have, releases a Shockwave with super parts.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Figures in Seige won't have a gimmick that they traditionally didn't have, releases a Shockwave with super parts.

Well, it's an optional gimmick? Seems like you could throw these extra parts in the garbage and still have the full Shockwave.