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Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace

Transformers News: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace

Wednesday, December 22nd, 2010 12:10PM CST

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Greetings from Crave!

A quick introduction:
Crave (http://www.crave.com) is our new Transformers-dedicated marketplace where fans can buy & sell with each other. Our mission is to make it easy for fans to find Transformers on their want list.

What’s different about Crave’s Transformer marketplace?
    - Fan-created catalog of every Transformer released by Hasbro & Takara
    - Build your checklists of haves & wants
    - Easy & secure way to buy and sell with fans
    - Selling is free!
Bonus -- If what you want isn’t currently for sale, add it to your want list on Crave & we’ll notify you when it gets put up for sale.

Here’s what some of our 45,000 fans are saying from a recent independent survey:
    “Awesome site to look for, buy and sell Transformers, with pictures & checklists.”
    “When looking for Transformers, it’s the site to go, for things you can’t find elsewhere.”
    “WAY BETTER THAN E-BAY”
    “The team at Crave has been doing some INCREDIBLE work and is doing exactly what the fans are hoping for and want…THANK YOU!”
In just over a month since launch, Crave TF sellers are building up a wide selection of Transformers.
A sample of series for sale on Crave:
1.Generation 1
2.Classics
3.Animated
4.Generations
5.Takara Henkei
6.Takara Binaltech
7.Takara Label Series
8.Takara Encore

And many more!
If you have TFs to sell, come see how easy it is on Crave: click here for seller info.

Highlights from current Generation 1 listings on Crave
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Hosehead
For sale by Jason Pacenski
Series: Generation 1, G1 1988
Condition: Loose – Complete
Quality: Near Mint
Price: $65.00 (includes shipping)

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Onslaught
For sale by Jason Pacenski
Series: Generation 1, G1 1986
Condition: Loose – Incomplete
Quality: Good
Price: $20.00 (includes shipping)

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Rescue Patrol (ALL 4 micro bots)
For sale by Tom Jones
Series: Generation 1, G1 1989
Condition: Loose - Complete
Quality: Near Mint
Price: $30.00 (includes shipping)

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Defensor
For sale by Jason Carnley
Series: Generation 1, G1 1986
Condition: Loose – Complete
Quality: Fine
Price: $90.00 (includes shipping)

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Masterpiece Grimlock
For sale by Tom Jones
Series: Generation 1, Masterpiece
Condition: Packaged - Opened - Complete
Quality: Mint
Price: $150.00 (includes shipping)

Crave’s marketplace has been live just over 1 month, so send us your feedback on what you like & what you think we could improve. Visit our Feedback tab on the site or email us (info@crave.com) with your suggestions.

You can also join 45,000 fellow Transformers fans where you can speak your mind on our Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/cravetransformers
Join today and you’ll be entered to win one of our Transformers giveaways.

Happy Holidays!
Erin & Kabe, Crave founders
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Credit(s): Red Convoy

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Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160500)
Posted by T-Macksimus on December 22nd, 2010 @ 12:21pm CST
Looks pretty cool to me although after browsing some of the listings I have to say that there are sellers out there who are well and truly mental. Seriously, $40 for Cybertronian Soundwave???? I just paid $9.00 for one yesterday at Target.
Still, it is a well put together site and I'm far more likely to utilize this than going to one of the shops in my area that deals in used TF's.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160505)
Posted by r3devi7 on December 22nd, 2010 @ 12:41pm CST
There are definitely some inflated prices, ala ebay style. I did get an "Alternator Rumble Civic Si" for $30, in box. I think I got a pretty good deal, seeing as he was $20 new years ago.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160534)
Posted by WeatherManNX01 on December 22nd, 2010 @ 1:21pm CST
Well, certainly looks like it's worth a look around in terms of price-comparison. That's pretty much going to dictate whether or not I use the service.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160556)
Posted by DISCHARGE on December 22nd, 2010 @ 2:00pm CST
Uh, so you're totally dependent upon the buyer notifying them they have recieved item before you recieve payment. So there is really just another middle man to go through.
I like the idea of Check Out My Cards and their selling buying policy much better. My last roomate has bought and sold on there for a while now and we would talk about how it would be such a great idea for toys, only a great amount of space would be needed.
I can see my self buying on this site, but prob not selling.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160584)
Posted by Samurai Bludgeon on December 22nd, 2010 @ 3:11pm CST
intersting, im all for this! fyi I just listed a misb Universe Hardhead for 60+15 shipping if anyone still needs him!
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160605)
Posted by GrimlockGirl on December 22nd, 2010 @ 4:01pm CST
DISCHARGE wrote:Uh, so you're totally dependent upon the buyer notifying them they have recieved item before you recieve payment. So there is really just another middle man to go through.


Actually, Crave requires that sellers include a tracking number when shipping. The sellers put the tracking number into Crave, and then Crave can tell exactly when the product gets delivered. This protects sellers from buyers who claim that they never received anything. It also protects buyers from sellers who claim they sent something but never did.

-GG
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160614)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 22nd, 2010 @ 4:21pm CST
Just a FYI for members, Crave is a site sponsor so please stop reporting this thread as spam.

Mods DO NOT lock this thread.

Thanks for your understanding.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160628)
Posted by Blackstreak on December 22nd, 2010 @ 4:44pm CST
Great idea. Too bad it seems I have to have a facebook account to sign up. I don't want facebook but I need to sell some TFs w/out the pricetag offered by ebay.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160633)
Posted by City Commander on December 22nd, 2010 @ 4:55pm CST
Looks cool, though I don't want to add more crap to my facebook account (though I suppose it does act as a pretty good seller bio), and I wonder if there's a UK/Europe equivalent.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160648)
Posted by Starscream on December 22nd, 2010 @ 5:31pm CST
Guess what: there are not 45,000 real people following crave on facebook. They are fluff fake accounts set up to bolster numbers.

How could 45,000 transformers fans be a part of this, yet about 98% of the people on this site were unaware of the business till maybe 4 weeks ago?

Do the math.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160694)
Posted by griftimus prime on December 22nd, 2010 @ 7:16pm CST
lol look at the prices. i will stick with ebay if i need to
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160696)
Posted by LiKwid on December 22nd, 2010 @ 7:18pm CST
Starscream wrote:Guess what: there are not 45,000 real people following crave on facebook. They are fluff fake accounts set up to bolster numbers.

How could 45,000 transformers fans be a part of this, yet about 98% of the people on this site were unaware of the business till maybe 4 weeks ago?

Do the math.


While the Number might be sightly inflated, Crave has been around for awhile..They were at Botcon 2010 passing out flyers and advertising their site to the thousands of people in attendance. but is it really a big deal that they may have fluffed their numbers?
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160700)
Posted by Seibertron on December 22nd, 2010 @ 7:31pm CST
LiKwid wrote:
Starscream wrote:Guess what: there are not 45,000 real people following crave on facebook. They are fluff fake accounts set up to bolster numbers.

How could 45,000 transformers fans be a part of this, yet about 98% of the people on this site were unaware of the business till maybe 4 weeks ago?

Do the math.


While the Number might be sightly inflated, Crave has been around for awhile..They were at Botcon 2010 passing out flyers and advertising their site to the thousands of people in attendance. but is it really a big deal that they may have fluffed their numbers?


They've been advertising heavily on Facebook for a while now. Kind of makes me wonder if I threw a little bit of funds toward Facebook advertising how we could impact our followers and possibly get more Seibertronians posting here.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160713)
Posted by craggy on December 22nd, 2010 @ 7:49pm CST
I could go for a bowl of Kellogs Krave right now.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160732)
Posted by Starscream on December 22nd, 2010 @ 8:29pm CST
Seibertron wrote:
They've been advertising heavily on Facebook for a while now. Kind of makes me wonder if I threw a little bit of funds toward Facebook advertising how we could impact our followers and possibly get more Seibertronians posting here.


You would not see the incredibly accelerated growth that this company has seen. They are using a non-facebook sanctioned service to boast synthetic growth. Unfortunately, there are not 45,000 or even 10,000 people that are actively interested in collecting, buying and selling as to befriend a transformer selling service on facebook.

Are there that many people that are interested in "transformers" at a general level? Definitely, but to the point that they buy and sell the plastic crack we all love day in day out? No.

And do inflated numbers mean anything? You must not be very deep into the world of social marketing and public image. Let's agree that it means a lot less to about 99% people out there, but to someone like me, it is just another weapon in the arsenal of public deception.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160734)
Posted by Amelie on December 22nd, 2010 @ 8:34pm CST
I don't personally care if membership numbers are inflated\exaggerated, the only things that matter are -

- Am I willing to pay xxxx price for this toy?
- How secure is my shopping experience?

If the answer to the above are both "YES" then I buy, and I thank Seibertron along the way for the link.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160737)
Posted by T-Macksimus on December 22nd, 2010 @ 8:50pm CST
Amelie wrote:I don't personally care if membership numbers are inflated\exaggerated, the only things that matter are -

- Am I willing to pay xxxx price for this toy?
- How secure is my shopping experience?

If the answer to the above are both "YES" then I buy, and I thank Seibertron along the way for the link.


I would normally agree with you but Starscream does bring up some valid points in his post above. I can understand a small degree of inflated numbers or a smidgeon of misdirection here or there on the part of somebody who is advertising, well...just about anything these days. It's part of the advertising/sales game. But now that I take a second look at the numbers, 45k on someones page unless they are a major name is practically unheard of in a short time. We have established sellers and sponsors on here that have been with the site for quite a while and have nowhere near those numbers on Facebook. Before someone jumps down my throat for making some kind of accusation about our new sponsor, I'm not making any such thing. I said before that I like the site set-up and would likely use their service before dealing locally. I will, however, use as much caution researching them as I would any independent selling service and encourage folks to do likewise with any service they go through.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160752)
Posted by beanman on December 22nd, 2010 @ 10:00pm CST
Seems like a cool idea...but, how are the prices? Seller fees? I'll look more in depth when I have some time (next week off! Yea!).
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1160997)
Posted by GrimlockGirl on December 23rd, 2010 @ 12:59pm CST
beanman wrote:Seems like a cool idea...but, how are the prices? Seller fees? I'll look more in depth when I have some time (next week off! Yea!).


There aren't any seller fees on Crave. Listing and selling are totally free. Buyers pay a commission when they purchase something.

The prices are set by the sellers, so some are great bargains and others aren't. It all depends on what the seller wants for their item.

If you have any questions or problems, feel free to ask!

-GG
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1161042)
Posted by DISCHARGE on December 23rd, 2010 @ 2:31pm CST
GrimlockGirl wrote:
beanman wrote:Seems like a cool idea...but, how are the prices? Seller fees? I'll look more in depth when I have some time (next week off! Yea!).


There aren't any seller fees on Crave. Listing and selling are totally free. Buyers pay a commission when they purchase something.

The prices are set by the sellers, so some are great bargains and others aren't. It all depends on what the seller wants for their item.

If you have any questions or problems, feel free to ask!

-GG


What is the cost of commission? Is it flat fee or percentage based? Is the fee tacked into the cost of the item or is it an extra cost? I could find nothing on the site with that info, thanks.
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Posted by GrimlockGirl on December 23rd, 2010 @ 3:35pm CST
DISCHARGE wrote:What is the cost of commission? Is it flat fee or percentage based? Is the fee tacked into the cost of the item or is it an extra cost? I could find nothing on the site with that info, thanks.


The commission is added to the price when you make the purchase. It's a percentage of the price of the item. You can see the cost of the commission on each item when you click Buy Now and go to PayPal. It's always shown as a separate line item, so you know exactly what the commission will be before you buy an item. At the moment, it is 10% of the purchase price.

-GG
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1161834)
Posted by anubis20 on December 25th, 2010 @ 12:54pm CST
So glad I found this site, I have been looking for a decently priced MP-4 but everywhere I looked it was $225 + shipping so it always turned out to be around $240-$250. I just happen to look on Crave and saw this MP-4 http://crave.com/marketplace/listing/to ... nniversary. With Crave's commission It ended up costing $198. The seller already shipped and it should be here on Tuesday!
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1162010)
Posted by Seibertron on December 25th, 2010 @ 9:01pm CST
anubis20 wrote:So glad I found this site, I have been looking for a decently priced MP-4 but everywhere I looked it was $225 + shipping so it always turned out to be around $240-$250. I just happen to look on Crave and saw this MP-4 http://crave.com/marketplace/listing/to ... nniversary. With Crave's commission It ended up costing $198. The seller already shipped and it should be here on Tuesday!


That's a great deal on that. I didn't pay that much less for it when it was new.

Welcome to Seibertron.com, anubis20!
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1162036)
Posted by nickh on December 25th, 2010 @ 11:06pm CST
Happy holidays, everyone!

Are there any other sites like Crave.com at the moment?
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1162983)
Posted by anubis20 on December 28th, 2010 @ 6:48pm CST
Got my MP-04 today from the seller on crave.com. Everything looks great with the exception that it doesnt have the manual, already contacted the seller to see if he maybe forgot to throw it in the box. Aside from that everything went smooth and I'm happy I can finally complete my masterpiece collection.

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Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1163190)
Posted by Fortress_Maximus on December 29th, 2010 @ 11:46am CST
Sounds like a good idea. However, like others have commented NOT a fan of requiring facebook registration. Frankly, we do not use it so, does this mean we cannot register? Also, not a fan of the delays middle men can create. When we sell we want to sell immediately.

So here are some questions: 1) Whom does Crave help first if there is a dispute? E.g. If the seller gets payment, ships w/delivery confirmation but no insurance at buyers choice, then the buyer claims package was damaged and demands a refund?

2) What recourse do sellers have dealing with deadbeat buyers? Will Crave blacklist them? Fine them? Nothing? Please elaborate.

Certain there are plenty more questions out there. Looking forward to your prompt reply. Cheers! :BOT:
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1163212)
Posted by GrimlockGirl on December 29th, 2010 @ 12:21pm CST
Fortress_Maximus wrote:
So here are some questions: 1) Whom does Crave help first if there is a dispute? E.g. If the seller gets payment, ships w/delivery confirmation but no insurance at buyers choice, then the buyer claims package was damaged and demands a refund?

2) What recourse do sellers have dealing with deadbeat buyers? Will Crave blacklist them? Fine them? Nothing? Please elaborate.

Certain there are plenty more questions out there. Looking forward to your prompt reply. Cheers! :BOT:



Regarding question 1: Here is the Crave Transaction Policy: http://www.crave.com/info/transactions
Hopefully that table about midway down the page will answer any of your questions. I don't want to quote them all here, in case I leave out something important.

On Crave, the buyer can not get to choose "no insurance." The seller just decides how much to charge for shipping, and that's what it costs. Sounds like insurance would be a good choice in the scenario you describe.

Regarding question number 2, the great thing about Crave is that you don't have to worry about deadbeat buyers. Since Crave is in the middle of the transaction, they take the payment from the buyer, and you get paid by Crave. This means you have protection from deadbeat buyers, since it's actually Crave who is guaranteeing you get paid as long as you hold up your end of the transaction.

Hope this answers your questions!
-GG
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1163227)
Posted by Fortress_Maximus on December 29th, 2010 @ 12:58pm CST
Hi GG.
Thanks the information provided helps.

Still have concerns, will go through them individually. Would appreciate a detailed reply to this post.

In the link you provided you listed if the problem is:

1) "Item not as-described or damaged" then "[Buyer] Gets full refund once item delivered and confirmed by seller." Now we understand when sellers mislead or forget to include things. However, we do not and we do not appreciate requiring us to provide a refund. In the 15 years we've been selling online, we've never refunded anyone anything.

In its current form Craves' refund policy can be abused and should be carefully evaluated, especially considering these are toys and people often have "buyers remorse".

QUESTION 1: What is the PRECISE AMOUNT OF DAYS for the "REVIEW PERIOD"? Does that date start from the shipment date or buyer payment date? This is essential b/c during this time once the buyer receives the products, what is to prevent them from "changing their minds"? If you sell a lot you certainly will have encountered this concern before.

QUESTION 2: What is your company doing to prevent abuse of the "refund policy"?

2) "Lost in the mail / postal service did record it was mailed, but did not arrive" this results in "•Seller does not get sale proceeds. The seller's recourse is with the carrier." Please clarify this recourse.

QUESTION 3: Assuming a buyer refused to get insurance and the product arrives damage (despite good packaging by the seller). So HOW is it the fault of the seller? That is why insurance is optional but strongly advised! When buyers refuse for whatever reasons, the buyer assumes the risk.

QUESTION 4: So then why is the seller PENALIZED with no sale proceeds? This is what paypal does and it has credited back to some abusive buyers. This does NOT make sense. Please clarify.

QUESTION 5: What are the precise amounts Crave can charge under FEES? Referring to, "We reserve the right to charge or credit Members' accounts and credit cards on file, according to our Transactions Policy, at our discretion, depending on the policy dictated settlement"

This part is on the same page your provided is incredibly vague. Is there a chart detailing limits? If not, please create one and post it soon.

Buyers/Sellers definitely need details since fee description is too general and does not specify limits on the amount that Crave can charge in case of disputes. This is most unsettling since it is far too open to interpretation and potential disputes/abuse. Please clarify with specifics. Thank you.

QUESTION 6: Not everyone uses or even like social media sites like Facebook. We do not use and will not use facebook, far too many privacy violations. Can people like us who do not use facebook still sell on Crave? We request you make it so users who do not use facebook can also use your site. Thank you.

Looking forward to your reply. Thanks. :D
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1163254)
Posted by Red Convoy on December 29th, 2010 @ 2:48pm CST
Hi Fortress Maximus,
Thanks for your thoughtful questions about in Crave. You sound like a very experienced seller.
We are trying to improve on the buyer & seller experience that we've all been dealing with on eBay over the years, so your suggestions and feedback are really helpful.

Our philosophy is that most people have good intentions, but in some cases there are problems with transactions. While there is no perfect system, we've designed the transaction process on Crave to be as fair as possible to both sides.

Regarding your questions:
QUESTION 1: What is the PRECISE AMOUNT OF DAYS for the "REVIEW PERIOD"?


The seller has two business days after the date of purchase to ship the item.
The buyer then has two business days after the date of confirmed delivery to let us know of any problems, then we transfer payment to the seller the day after that.
The idea is that it is the same time frame on both ends.
Usually the end to end transactions complete quickly.
This has kept fraud & abuse extremely low and led to more transactions.

QUESTION 2: What is your company doing to prevent abuse of the "refund policy?


We investigate & track the circumstances of a "refund request" so we can identify & blacklist a purchaser as soon as we have evidence of abuse. We'll be adding feedback mechanisms as well.
We've found that sellers will get more transactions overall (even accounting for some returns) when they offer buyers a refund option. So we made it part of the process. (Consider Amazon and Zappos as additional examples.)
I'd love to hear your suggestions here.

QUESTION 3: Case of "Lost in the mail / postal service did record it was mailed, but did not arrive" this results in "Seller does not get sale proceeds. The seller's recourse is with the carrier." Please clarify this recourse.
If the buyer refused to get insurance and the product arrives damage (despite good packaging by the seller), HOW is it the fault of the seller?


This is a rare case where an item has been shipped with tracking, but does not arrive to the buyer because it has been lost by the carrier. We are talking about the case where the carrier admits to losing the package, not a claim by the buyer that it did not arrive.
As with any online purchase, it is the seller's responsibility to deliver the item and the buyer's responsibility to pay for a delivered item.
If the carrier loses the item, then the seller needs to deal with the carrier. Sellers can protect themselves from an item getting lost by a carrier by factoring in insurance into the shipping cost for high value items.
However, we have not seen any cases of this nature.

QUESTION 4: (Follow up to the one above) So then why is the seller penalized with no sale proceeds? This is what paypal does and it has credited back to some abusive buyers. This does NOT make sense. Please clarify.


Following up #3, in the case where a seller has not delivered the item because the carrier lost it and that is documented by the carrier (say USPS), it is the carrier who is at fault, not the buyer, so the buyer should not be required to pay for the item. Again, this is extremely rare but if a seller is shipping a high value Transformers, it makes sense to include insurance in the cost of shipping.

Let me know if you have any additional questions.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1163267)
Posted by Fortress_Maximus on December 29th, 2010 @ 3:55pm CST
Please reply to questions 5 and 6 which were added. Thank you. And yes we are experienced sellers/buyers; we have heard all the excuses... from my under aged child, brother, sister bid on something so I cannot pay, to the deadbeats claiming non-receipt of something despite delivery confirmation proving otherwise and paypal still refunds them monies (leaving the seller with no product and no monies). The bottom line is, there are many situations for abuse from sellers and buyers alike. As you may know paypal and ebay are extremely biased towards protecting buyers to the point of turning a blind eye to abusive buyers. So, if Crave truly wants to distinguish itself as raising the bar above Ebay.com and other other marketplaces it needs to offer better protection for the sellers.

QUESTION 1: So just to confirm the buyer has TWO BUSINESS DAYS after confirmed receipt of the package to "review"? Then isn't it true sellers can expect to get paid on average in 12 to 14 DAYS after the transaction is closed. Example, item is sold on 1/1/11, buyer has two days to pay, by 1/3/11. Seller has two days after to ship w/delivery confirmation & insurance, by 1/5/11. Assume average USPS delivery is five days, by 1/11/11. Buyer has two business days after the date of confirmed delivery to inform of problems, by 1/13/11. Then Crave transfers payment to the seller the day after that by 1/14/11. Even assuming the earliest time delivery of three days by USPS, the earliest sellers get paid if 1/12/11. Frankly, as sellers this is still a LONG time to wait for the payment! Something in this process needs to be streamlined for efficiency.

QUESTION 2: Is Crave serious about protecting its marketplace? If so requiring a mandatory refund policy does not ensure buyers or sellers will ever act responsibly. Yes generally most are fine, but isn't always the ones who are irresponsible deadbeats who waste your time, forcing you as a buyer/seller to chase the other party down? Since this tends to be where the offenders fall, why not implement a stronger policy? A NO DEADBEAT POLICY?

Honestly, feedback ranking does NOTHING to prevent abuse; it is absolutely useless as a deterrent. However, the one thing that does make both parties always stop and notice is hitting their wallets. As such, Crave should strongly consider implementing CREDIT CARD FINES to deadbeat buyers and sellers. Doing so WILL prevent abuse. No selling forum has ever implemented this. And before people get outraged and cry bloody murder consider the following. Isn't it true (and as everyone who has any credit history knows), whenever people fail to pay their bills (credit card, utility, cell phone, internet, traffic tickets, parking tickets, tuition, mortgage, property taxes, et al) YOU GET FINED? #-o So then, shouldn't a real business also fine people for behaving irresponsibly and hold them accountable for their actions? :-?

Now, credit card fines can be two pronged. First prong, an automated credit card fine for not paying within the requisite time for buyers. Two main options: a) Precise amount can be a percentage of the item they would've paid for in full as determined by Crave and payable to Crave. b) If Crave is SERIOUS in enforcing a NO DEADBEATS and NO SCAMMERS POLICY, b/c buyers are required to pay, then CHARGE the buyer's credit card the FULL amount owed w/shipping & Craves' transaction fee. Of course then sellers would still be responsible for shipping product out per terms or face fines too.
Second prong, the seller should be compensated for their lost sale and time. Do you appreciate your time being wasted? No? Then when as a responsible buyer/seller you wouldn't do that to someone else, correct? And if you did isn't it true, you would expect to be held accountable? Another thing to consider as sellers we experienced and heard so many times a buyer places an item on hold, so the seller places it aside and turns away another potential buyer. Sometimes by going w/the first buyer who may turn out to be a irresponsible deadbeat, the seller LOST A SALE with the second buyer. Now the actual fine amount could be a percentage of the final price the item would've sold for deposited into the sellers credit card account. Thoughts?

QUESTION 3: Essentially Crave is REQUIRING not only delivery confirmation but also insurance, correct? Now how will this be enforced if the buyer refuses to pay for insurance? Are sellers forced then to pay out of pocket to protect themselves? This does NOT sound reasonable.
We agree it is rare when sellers ship using a carrier w/delivery confirmation and insurance and the carrier admits they've lost the package. Usually if anything the carrier typically finds the package later or deliver it damaged. However again, in both cases, HOW is either the fault or responsibility of the seller if the item is not delivered by the carrier or arrives damaged?

QUESTION 4: It is definitely not reasonable to hold the seller accountable when the carrier is late or damages the package. Once a seller transfers the package into the carriers possession (assuming delivery confirmation & insurance), it is literally out of their hands. So bottom line, why is the sellers funds HELD under these situations? Kindly clarify.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1163279)
Posted by GrimlockGirl on December 29th, 2010 @ 4:28pm CST
Fortress_Maximus wrote:
QUESTION 1: So just to confirm the buyer has TWO BUSINESS DAYS after confirmed receipt of the package to "review"? Then isn't it true sellers can expect to get paid on average in 12 to 14 DAYS after the transaction is closed. Example, item is sold on 1/1/11, buyer has two days to pay, by 1/3/11. Seller has two days after to ship w/delivery confirmation & insurance, by 1/5/11. Assume average USPS delivery is five days, by 1/11/11. Buyer has two business days after the date of confirmed delivery to inform of problems, by 1/13/11. Then Crave transfers payment to the seller the day after that by 1/14/11. Even assuming the earliest time delivery of three days by USPS, the earliest sellers get paid if 1/12/11. Frankly, as sellers this is still a LONG time to wait for the payment! Something in this process needs to be streamlined for efficiency.


You can knock some days off of that estimate. The buyer does not have two business days to pay. The buyer pays immediately for the item. Also, the seller doesn't have to wait 2 days to ship it. Many of the sellers ship immediately after the sale. If the seller ships immediately, the only wait time is the shipping time and the two days during which the buyer can review the product.


Fortress_Maximus wrote: If Crave is SERIOUS in enforcing a NO DEADBEATS/SCAMMERS POLICY, b/c buyers are required to pay, then CHARGE the buyer's credit card the FULL amount owed w/shipping & Crave transaction fee. Of course then sellers would still be responsible for shipping product out per terms or face fines too.


Crave does charge the buyers immediately. The buyer has already paid for the item before the seller is even notified that they've made a sale. If the seller doesn't ship within 2 business days, Crave will refund the buyer's money (after giving the seller warning that this will happen).

Fortress_Maximus wrote:Second prong, the seller should be compensated for their lost sale and time. Do you appreciate your time being wasted? No? Then when as a responsible buyer/seller you wouldn't do that to someone else, correct? Also we've experienced and heard so many times when one buyer places an item on hold, so the seller places it aside and turns away another potential buyer. Frankly by going w/the first buyer who may turn out to be a irresponsible deadbeat, the seller LOST A SALE with the second buyer. Now the actual fine amount could be a percentage of the final price the item would've sold for deposited into the sellers credit card account. Or the seller can elect for Crave crediting to them for future Crave postings. Thoughts?



There is no hold process on Crave. The buyer simply clicks a button to purchase the item and then pays for it. Then the seller is alerted that they have sold their item, and it is then the seller's responsibility to ship it. Once the item has been confirmed delivered and the buyer has not complained that the product was misrepresented or damaged, Crave pays the seller. The seller never has to worry about being paid or not paid by a buyer, because the seller is not working directly with the buyer.

Fortress_Maximus wrote:QUESTION 3: Essentially Crave is REQUIRING not only delivery confirmation but also insurance, correct? Now how will this be enforced if the buyer refuses to pay for insurance? Are sellers forced then to pay out of pocket to protect themselves? This does NOT sound reasonable.


The seller determines how much the shipping costs, not the buyer. The buyer can not refuse to pay the shipping cost. As an example, if the seller thinks that it will cost about $5 to ship, but wants to add another couple of dollars to cover insurance and tracking, then he just lists the shipping cost as $7. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your concern here? At the moment, the buyer doesn't really have any say in the shipping cost.

Fortress_Maximus wrote:QUESTION 4: It is definitely not reasonable to hold the seller accountable when the carrier is late or damages the package. Once a seller transfers the package into the carriers possession (assuming delivery confirmation & insurance), it is literally out of their hands. So bottom line, why is the sellers funds HELD under these situations? Kindly clarify.


If you are concerned about this happening, Crave strongly recommends purchasing insurance for the shipping (and adding it to the cost of shipping). That way you won't be held responsible if the shipping carrier loses the package.

Of course, since Crave is so new, they're very interested in getting as much feedback as possible from extremely experienced sellers like yourself. It sounds like lost or damaged packages have been an issue for you. How do you normally deal with them? How have you dealt with when you've sent a package, but the carrier has lost it?

Thanks again for asking these questions! It's really helpful to hear about the concerns of sellers so that Crave can help create a better selling experience.

-GG
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1163296)
Posted by Fortress_Maximus on December 29th, 2010 @ 5:01pm CST
Thanks GG and RC for the detailed comments.

Yes, instantly charging helps immensely. To clarify we added extra days in case of a weekend like Sunday which would delay shipment.

We separated the insurance and delivery confirmation costs b/c many buyers try to cut costs by eliminating insurance and/or trying to get cheaper shipping methods like flat rate. The thing most buyers overlook is the size and weight especially if items are MISB and need to be packed into a larger package. Oversized packages for USPS typically incur another expense too, so this is when buyers often back out. Hopefully the automated charging system will eliminate this concern. Also about the insurance most sellers do not eat that cost and leave purchasing insurance as optional but highly recommended. This is why we asked what happens if buyers refuse to add insurance. Does that make sense?

To answer your question in the past we've dealt with damaged packages by requiring tracking/delivery confirmation on ALL purchases. But we do not require insurance and the buyer assumes the risk. So if the carrier loses the package and the buyer does not pay for extra insurance it is as we commented, out of our hands. We have filed claims for buyers in the past (two) b/c we have the documentation proving we mailed it out. However after that the investigation is in the hands of the carrier. In one instance the package arrived a month later and the other, it was never found and the buyer ate the loss for not buying insurance. We have never refunded which is why we are concerned about buyers remorse and do not believe in refunds since 99% of our items are MISB.

The main thing that delays shipping for us as sellers is obtaining accurate shipping quotes until we learn the buyers actual shipping address. This cannot be done in advance until a buyer elects to buy something. If we did a flat rate there is a large difference in cost between Continental US and other places like Hawaii and Canada. So as much as possible we do not list shipping until the buyer buys which is typical in auction situations.

This brings up a good side issue, what is Craves' policy on international buyers or sellers regarding shipping?

Lastly, please reply to questions 5 & 6. For your convenience they are listed here:

QUESTION 5: What are the precise amounts Crave can charge under FEES? Referring to, "We reserve the right to charge or credit Members' accounts and credit cards on file, according to our Transactions Policy, at our discretion, depending on the policy dictated settlement" Is there a chart detailing limits? If not, please create one and post it soon. Buyers/Sellers definitely need details since fee description is too general and does not specify limits on the amount that Crave can charge in case of disputes. This is most unsettling since it is far too open to interpretation and potential disputes/abuse. Please clarify with specifics. Thank you.

QUESTION 6: Many people do not use or even like social media sites like Facebook. We do not use and will not use facebook, far too many privacy violations. So can sellers like us who do not use facebook still sell on Crave?

We request you make it so users who do not use facebook can also use your site. Thank you.
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Posted by Fortress_Maximus on December 30th, 2010 @ 5:45pm CST
*bump* for Crave people to reply to questions #5 & 6.

Waiting....
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1164742)
Posted by Red Convoy on January 2nd, 2011 @ 9:38pm CST
Hi Fortress Maximus,
Happy New Year! We understand the points you are making about protecting sellers. We are a small harding-working team getting this marketplace off the ground and working on as many improvements as possible, so your support while we continue to build out the service is very helpful.

To answer your additional questions:

This brings up a good side issue, what is Craves' policy on international buyers or sellers regarding shipping?


Currently we are supporting sales in the U.S. with plans to support international in the future. This is because the site doesn't yet support variable shipping calculations. For now sellers use flat rate shipping which only applies within the U.S. Adding this feature is on our roadmap.

QUESTION 5: What are the precise amounts Crave can charge under FEES? Referring to, "We reserve the right to charge or credit Members' accounts and credit cards on file, according to our Transactions Policy, at our discretion, depending on the policy dictated settlement" Is there a chart detailing limits? If not, please create one and post it soon. Buyers/Sellers definitely need details since fee description is too general and does not specify limits on the amount that Crave can charge in case of disputes. This is most unsettling since it is far too open to interpretation and potential disputes/abuse. Please clarify with specifics. Thank you.


I get your concern. The details are in the chart on our Transactions Policy page. This refers to the case where one of the parties has not fulfilled their end of the transaction so would not exceed the cost of the item and shipping.

QUESTION 6: Many people do not use or even like social media sites like Facebook. We do not use and will not use facebook, far too many privacy violations. So can sellers like us who do not use facebook still sell on Crave?


We have started off by using Facebook profiles because we are trying to create a trusted community of fans with real identities to help develop a system of fair transactions. For example, you will be able to see which of your friends purchased from a seller & ask them about the seller, or see if you have any friends in common, that sort of thing. We may create an additional account system in the future, but for now you need to login using Facebook.

There are a lot of things we are still working on as a new site so we recognize it's not perfect, but if we can build on what we have, we think there is a win for everyone by creating an experience superior to eBay. I'd be happy to chat by phone if you want to walk through the site together and give me any other feedback. Send me a PM.
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1164856)
Posted by nickh on January 3rd, 2011 @ 7:24am CST
Hey there, Red Convoy. Thanks for answering so many of Fortress_Maximus' questions. They're helpful for all of us.

Red Convoy wrote:We understand the points you are making about protecting sellers. We are a small harding-working team getting this marketplace off the ground and working on as many improvements as possible, so your support while we continue to build out the service is very helpful.

What sorts of features will you be rolling out in the next month or so? I think all of us would love to know so that we can plan our use of Crave accordingly.

Red Convoy wrote:Currently we are supporting sales in the U.S. with plans to support international in the future.

Living in Canada, this question is the most pertinent to me. Any idea when international buying and selling will be ready?

Cheers,
Nick
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Posted by Fortress_Maximus on January 6th, 2011 @ 2:58pm CST
Hi Red Convoy. Thanks for answering those remaining questions. Unfortunately we do not use Facebook and will not sign up just to test Crave.

If in the future Crave allows non-Facebook registration we will test it, otherwise we will have no alternative but to lists items to be sold elsewhere.
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Posted by Red Convoy on January 7th, 2011 @ 3:25pm CST
Hi @nickh, thanks for your questions.

What sorts of features will you be rolling out in the next month or so? I think all of us would love to know so that we can plan our use of Crave accordingly.


We are working on a dashboard to show recent activity like sales and on more detailed profiles for buyers & sellers so you can see more about the fan you are transacting with. A few more things in the pipeline, but I'll update you on that soon.

Living in Canada, this question is the most pertinent to me. Any idea when international buying and selling will be ready?


We're actually looking for buyers & sellers in Canada who want to do some test sales and help us make sure the delivery tracking with flat rate shipping works between US and CA. Do you have time for a phone call to share your experiences selling or buying between US and CA?
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Posted by MGrotusque on January 10th, 2011 @ 6:07pm CST
We're actually looking for buyers & sellers in Canada who want to do some test sales and help us make sure the delivery tracking with flat rate shipping works between US and CA. Do you have time for a phone call to share your experiences selling or buying between US and CA?



I like to buy stuff! I also so happen to live in Canada. I was looking at your site last night and noticed a couple items of interest.

I wasn't aware that you didn't deliver internationally though. I wondered about the shipping as i scrolled through the items on the site because it certainly seemed cheaper than usual.

I'd be interested in helping out, to get the ball rolling for ya. It would be nice to have another source for figures other than Ebay.
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Posted by Fortress_Maximus on February 22nd, 2011 @ 10:12pm CST
hi there crave staff.

any chance crave staff is going to add stock photos to the site? or have a help feature that allows people to add new series? just wondering b/c while searching for optimus prime found a ton of primes but some were duplicates and some were well just in the wrong section. looks like without pics some users are posting up their own sections despite existing ones causing a disorganized mess. might not be a real concerns if there were more stock pics so people knew what a listing was.

also searched for unicorn today and well found a ton of results but nothing related to what actually desired. looking for the big guy himself from armada or the black version from energon. can someone look into the search results it produced unrelated results. thanks.
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Posted by Red Convoy on March 7th, 2011 @ 8:24pm CST
hi fortress_maximus,

excellent questions.
(1) regarding your search for "unicron," the reason you go lots of results is that our search returns results both by series and by character so you got all of the unicron trilogy results. we'll see what we can do to fix that in the future.

if you use the "series selector" button and look under energon, here are the results:
http://www.crave.com/marketplace/transf ... nergon?p=1

there is one unicron for sale for $37 here, but not the black version:
http://www.crave.com/marketplace/listin ... on-supreme

(2)in terms of results for classics optimus, here are the results i got with a search:
http://www.crave.com/marketplace/transf ... h/classics optimus

you can also use the series select here and select "Classics" or a sub-series:
http://www.crave.com/marketplace/transf ... ics-series

(3) in terms of photos, those have been fan-uploaded by sellers, but we have plans down the road to open editing capabilities. just no resources in the short term.

hope that helps!
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Posted by Fortress_Maximus on March 8th, 2011 @ 2:32pm CST
ok thanks! yes please see if the team can fix the search feature sooner than later. thanks. also it might be great to add a saved searches feature too.

and lastly, looking forward to more pics for each listing and category. sadly there are a lot more listings without pictures... kind of makes it confusing and noticed listings are getting disorganized too. :( hopefully once your team adds pics instead of relying on users to add their own pictures to create/fill a category... crave will become more organized and have better content. keep us posted!
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Posted by Fortress_Maximus on March 7th, 2012 @ 3:15pm CST
SO SAD!

CRAVE is closing. Just in case everyone did not know already. Just barely made it over a year and now DEAD. Oh wells. :HEADHURTS:
Re: Crave News 12-23: Introducing Our Transformers Marketplace (1355923)
Posted by DISCHARGE on March 7th, 2012 @ 4:24pm CST
Fortress_Maximus wrote:SO SAD!

CRAVE is closing. Just in case everyone did not know already. Just barely made it over a year and now DEAD. Oh wells. :HEADHURTS:


It's unfortunate for those who use and enjoy the site. I probably would have used it if it didn't require Facebook, which I have no interest or need for. I also didn't like them hanging onto the money side of the transaction. I know that was done to encourage the seller to be honest with the listing and send the pictured toy, but it seemed too slow of a process.

I also didn't like the idea of a buyer paying a sort of finder's fee to Crave. I think if anything there could have been a membership sold, kind of like how you pay Sam's club to shop there because they are going to shoot you super deals.
Like I said though, I would have used it to sell and buy, but the Facebook thing killed it for me.

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