Crasher and Shadow Striker Listings found for Wave 2 of Transformers Velocitron line
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We had big reveals lately but there's one part I forgot was coming and that is all the listings for the next year which we get at the half year mark. Thanks to fellow Seibertronian JTprime17 and TF fan HyperShauta, we have listings of the second wave of the Velocitron line. As with the previous line, it has characters from all sorts of Transformers or Trasformers ajacent worlds together, like Crasher from GoBots, Shadow Striker from Cyberverse and voyager Hot Rod from some aspect of G1 (maybe a movie inspired redeco, purely speculation). These listings come from Walmart, which is the exclusive outlet for these toys.
Velocitron listings
Tra Gen legacy Velocitron deluxe Crasher
Product number: F8050
EAN: 5010994186609
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Deluxe Shadow S
Product Number: F8049
EAN: 5010994186586
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Hot Rod
Product Number: F8054
EAN: 5010994186593
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron LDR 2
Product Number: F8052
EAN: 5010994186616
The Leader is not known and it is unknown if this is the extent of the listings, it probably is not.
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Posted by blackeyedprime on June 25th, 2022 @ 1:42am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 25th, 2022 @ 2:55am CDT
Posted by Emerje on June 25th, 2022 @ 3:14am CDT
Wild speculation:
Crasher will be a retooled Wheeljack (closest thing we've had to her original Gobots alt mode, but watch it be Mirage again). Shadow Striker as a heavy Siege Chromia retool (their bot modes have very similar back and arm kibble).
Hot Rod needs to be the cartoon colors, bonus points if he comes with Daniel on a hoverboard.
The Leader slot is a mystery, wouldn't surprise me if it were Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime in the black and red colors of the original repaint. That would actually make me happy and it would make sense for a firetruck to be here, to say nothing of the Velocitron theme.
Some things I'd like to see in this line, be it wave 2 or a possible third wave if this goes the way of the Netflix line.
-Transmetal Tigatron (from the recent Ravage figure, not sure what price point that would fit)
-Sunstreaker (with proper matching yellow and red shoulders)
-Glyph or Tap-out (kinda crazy they haven't done these obvious and long requested repaints yet, but we got Roadranger and Puffer somehow)
-Nightracer (it's in her name and this line loves its female racers, maybe a repaint of Knock Out?)
Emerje
Posted by Munkky on June 25th, 2022 @ 4:06am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 25th, 2022 @ 6:18am CDT
I can accept 2 or 4 exclusives. But there's a WHOLE LINE of 30 something transformers with many characters that are 100% original that will be absolutely impossible to get anywhere. My Walmart never have transformers and Walmart.ca suck so much ass, I just have to stick my butt on my screen to get a thorough enema.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on June 25th, 2022 @ 9:51am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:At another site someone joked that hot rod could be a retool of override
That might not be a joke. The original rumors said that Override was a retool of Hot Rod, and there was precedent in the 3P scene where I think MMC used a shared design for those two. If it's an IDW Hot Rod, as with Legacy IDW Blurr, that would arguably be a better base.
I certainly don't think it's likely, but it's at least plausible.
Posted by sol magnus on June 25th, 2022 @ 9:55am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:At another site someone joked that hot rod could be a retool of override
That might not be a joke. The original rumors said that Override was a retool of Hot Rod, and there was precedent in the 3P scene where I think MMC used a shared design for those two. If it's an IDW Hot Rod, as with Legacy IDW Blurr, that would arguably be a better base.
I certainly don't think it's likely, but it's at least plausible.
You never know anymore. As of this minute, I wouldn't want a different Hot Rod, but I'll reserve judgement until I see it. I'm all in on the deluxes, though.
Posted by SpaceEagle on June 25th, 2022 @ 10:59am CDT
Unless they pull a quick one on us.
Posted by william-james88 on June 25th, 2022 @ 1:18pm CDT
The character this was supposed to be was not specified when he got the task. The only specification regarding the deco was that the trailer should be silver. As you can read below, the designer was guided by the material of the mold. So, with Laser Prime (who is the main use of this mold), both the alt mode windows and robot mode chest windows are made of clear plastic which is a departure from the original toy. Since the clear plastic for "Scourge" is pink, that means the entire robot mode torso would also be pink clear plastic. This mold was designed so that the torso clear plastic would match the alt mode clear plastic. So, when it came time to decide the colour of the torso, black was chosen for the torso to match the alt mode accordingly.
So there you go, it seems to all come back from a lack of unified direction for the deco and character at the beginning as well as limitations from the way the Legacy Laser Prime mold is constructed.
The designer does conclude that despite all that (limitations and lack of clarity) he went with the best looking deco he could think of. On that point, it is hard to fault him. While the deco doesn't look like Scourge, it is still striking and well done, as many fans have already said on message boards and social media across the web.
Let us knw what you think of both the reasoning and the toy.
Posted by sol magnus on June 25th, 2022 @ 1:24pm CDT
I'm kind of using a different more head-canon-esque explanation for the character in my collection, anyway.
Posted by Tuned Agent on June 25th, 2022 @ 1:33pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:At another site someone joked that hot rod could be a retool of override
That might not be a joke. The original rumors said that Override was a retool of Hot Rod, and there was precedent in the 3P scene where I think MMC used a shared design for those two. If it's an IDW Hot Rod, as with Legacy IDW Blurr, that would arguably be a better base.
I certainly don't think it's likely, but it's at least plausible.
It would be easier IMO to retool 86 Rod into IDW Rod than Override. With the 86 mold, the chest and shins could be swapped out very easily, and the tall shoulders could also be done if they don't mind sacrificing articulation. I'm not even sure how IDW Rod's shoulders could even work with Override's transformation scheme, and the chest would be more complicated to retool. Not that Override couldn't work, it would just take more extensive retooling.
Not to mention, IIRC it was clarified that the wave 2 voyager assortment was going to be 2 Hot Rods and 1 Override, so it would be a bit odd having the whole wave be the same mold.
Posted by grimdragon2001 on June 25th, 2022 @ 1:35pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 25th, 2022 @ 1:38pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Hot Rod needs to be the cartoon colors, bonus points if he comes with Daniel on a hoverboard.
Some things I'd like to see in this line, be it wave 2 or a possible third wave if this goes the way of the Netflix line.
-Sunstreaker (with proper matching yellow and red shoulders)
Emerje
I'd definitely buy another Hot Rod if it came with Danial and Hoverbaord!
Also want a Sunstreaker do over!
Posted by Immortal Starscream on June 25th, 2022 @ 2:17pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 25th, 2022 @ 2:29pm CDT
Additional options:Emerje wrote:Wild speculation:
Crasher will be a retooled Wheeljack (closest thing we've had to her original Gobots alt mode, but watch it be Mirage again). Shadow Striker as a heavy Siege Chromia retool (their bot modes have very similar back and arm kibble).
-Crasher from Drag Strip, if they're actually going for accuracy to the original design (assuming they can cuz rights weirdness)? The new head would fill in the seat area of the alt mode, she'd just have some extra wheels (and would get to be a secret extra Stunticon cuz why not)
-I've seen a digibash floating around of Shadow Striker from that Elita/Minerva mold, since the shoulder pylon kibble can be folded back into the backpack I think that could work also Siege Chromia mold sucks please don't bring it back
OOH, that is an interesting possibility, I hadn't even considered that. It'd definitely make more sense than anything else I had thought of.Emerje wrote:The Leader slot is a mystery, wouldn't surprise me if it were Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime in the black and red colors of the original repaint. That would actually make me happy and it would make sense for a firetruck to be here, to say nothing of the Velocitron theme.
I'm starting to wonder if the only reason this hasn't happened yet is because they are actually trying to get the VW Bug tooling for Glyph, considering we're only just now seeing it get a second use.Emerje wrote:-Glyph or Tap-out (kinda crazy they haven't done these obvious and long requested repaints yet, but we got Roadranger and Puffer somehow)
Posted by SpaceEagle on June 25th, 2022 @ 3:03pm CDT
(I can definitely understand the disappointment, though!)
Posted by Overcracker on June 25th, 2022 @ 6:41pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:We had big reveals lately but there's one part I forgot was coming and that is all the listings for the next year which we get at the half year mark. Thanks to fellow Seibertronian JTprime17 and TF fan HyperShauta, we have listings of the second wave of the Velocitron line. As with the previous line, it has characters from all sorts of Transformers or Trasformers ajacent worlds together, like Crasher from GoBots, Shadow Striker from Cyberverse and voyager Hot Rod from some aspect of G1 (maybe a movie inspired redeco, purely speculation). These listings come from Walmart, which is the exclusive outlet for these toys.
Velocitron listings
Tra Gen legacy Velocitron deluxe Crasher
Product number: F8050
EAN: 5010994186609
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Deluxe Shadow Striker
Product Number: F8049
EAN: 5010994186586
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Hot Rod
Product Number: F8054
EAN: 5010994186593
Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron LDR 2
Product Number: F8052
EAN: 5010994186616
The Leader is not known and it is unknown if this is the extent of the listings, it probably is not.
Interesting list.
Crasher might be a buy if they ive her a good alt mode. , But Shadow Striker is more interesting. Might mean we get a R.I.D SideBurn repaint out of that, which is one step closer to updating the R.I.D Car Robots.
Wonder what the
Posted by Sabrblade on June 25th, 2022 @ 6:45pm CDT
It's more likely this Shadow Striker, the one who's been in recent mainstream media:Overcracker wrote:But Shadow Striker is more interesting. Might mean we get a R.I.D SideBurn repaint out of that, which is one step closer to updating the R.I.D Car Robots.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 25th, 2022 @ 6:45pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:Clampdown comes with both the rifle and the shoulder rocket, both were shown on the stream (not to mention the leaked in-hand copy earlier).chuckdawg1999 wrote:Haven't we seen Clampdown with Red Alert's rifle? Aren't we passed the nickel and diming over this mold?
Thank you my friend, I don't watch the streams and those early leaks sometimes come with accessories the main releases don't.
Posted by Overcracker on June 25th, 2022 @ 7:02pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's more likely this Shadow Striker, the one whose been in recent mainstream media:Overcracker wrote:But Shadow Striker is more interesting. Might mean we get a R.I.D SideBurn repaint out of that, which is one step closer to updating the R.I.D Car Robots.
Still a sleek sports car with a thin robot body, works for SideBurn, even if it doesn’t get the engine chest.
Posted by Emerje on June 25th, 2022 @ 8:45pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:Additional options:
-Crasher from Drag Strip, if they're actually going for accuracy to the original design (assuming they can cuz rights weirdness)? The new head would fill in the seat area of the alt mode, she'd just have some extra wheels (and would get to be a secret extra Stunticon cuz why not)
I could be wrong, but I think Hasbro will fix one of the mistakes they made during Combiner Wars and not make "limbs" that don't have dedicated combiners. A G2 repaint, sure, even an entire retool for a new team, but I think they'll stay away from just doing repaints for the sake of repaints. I hope so anyway.
Emerje
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 25th, 2022 @ 9:50pm CDT
Either this figure will get the correct colours soon, or a better version still come out later. Until then, I'll stick with the Takara Tomy Legends version for the time being.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 25th, 2022 @ 10:22pm CDT
There is precedent in how both of his Takara Legends toys have been depicted as new, upgraded bodies for him instead just reinterpretations of his original body:
His Deluxe toy even has red/pink chest windows like this new one does. Granted, in that Deluxe toy's case, it was because those chest windows were also his actual truck windows, but it's still a case of his robot mode having red/pink windows.
But while that gives precedent for the color of his chest windows, it admittedly doesn't do the same for his torso being black instead of gray. Well, there just so happens to be another toy of his that, in fact, does. Scourge's very first upgraded-body toy had a black torso instead of a gray one. And that was Destructicon Scourge:
Sure, that one also had the gray-and-black chest windows and shoulders, but I do feel that it could be the missing link between the original Scourge and this new one.
In fact, one could even call the Velocitron Scourge the missing link between all of the others Scourges. If one wanted to consider the Destructicon the actual second body upgrade, then the Velocitron one could come next, followed by the existing evolution of Scourge's bodies, giving us the following pattern:
Body 1: Gray torso, gray-and-black windows
Then he undergoes a significant body-change in which his torso changes from gray to black (and his overall shape changes), but his robot mode windows stay the same.
Body 2: Black torso, gray-and-black windows
Then he goes back to his original shape, but keeps his black torso, and his robot windows change to red/pink.
Body 3: Black torso, red/pink windows
Then he changes again, his torso goes back to gray, but his windows stay red/pink.
Body 4: Gray torso, red/pink windows
The TFSS version is similar enough to just be considered the "Hasbro version" of this form.
And finally, he upgrades one more time, keeping his gray torso but returing his windows to gray-and-black, restoring his original deco to come full circle.
Body 5: Gray torso, gray-and-black windows
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 25th, 2022 @ 11:51pm CDT
Posted by Grahf_ on June 26th, 2022 @ 12:40am CDT
I mean the only thing more obvious than this is the Legacy Hot Shot being an update of RID 2001 Hot Shot using a version of Sideswipe as a base.
I'm obviously kidding in case it wasn't clear but I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to mess with fans at this point. I just still think this leak is too good to be true. I already know it's from the Walmart computer system to whoever tried to tell me in the other thread but it wouldn't be the first time those were faked or just outright wrong if I recall correctly.
But no lie, I would love both of those figures though. Dipping into the Spy Changers would be dangerous though. Some of those molds seem to have as many deco options as Starscream does.
For Crasher, I think Dragstrip could be easily retooled into her. The spoiler/feet could be retooled to better resemble Crasher's. The top of the vehicle/chest could be too. The front wheels could be redone as well to have only two and still have the same transformation somehow. This way when you transform them, everything will still work correctly. But most importantly, with some reworking, the front scoop can be placed behind her head and/or back. A hinge system of some sort or just retooled ball pegs or ports to get them down and then a slider to connect the two halves as well as get them out of the way of the retooled shoulder wheels. Pop them off and do it yourself to see what it would look like. Even if they don't retool this area, the ball pegs fit into the hollow parts under the scoop and a 3D printed part can be inserted to friction around the ball pegs holding the scoop down and back behind the head. And who cares if it's a combiner part? It's not like you can tell from looking at it. You have to go out of your way to stab a release mechanism with a flat object to get it to separate on its own. It would just be an added feature.
And I joked about about Hot Rod being a retool of Override on another site last night. I don't know if I'm the one that the other commenter was talking about or not but if they were at least they figured out that I was mostly joking in that large post I made. Again, the whole leak just seems crazy. And I was tired at the time like I am now so I was having a little more fun with the post than normal.
I want all the Leo Primes now. Regular, sparkly white, black, purple, Lio Junior, Thundertron, Go Prime, Alpha Trizer, Leobreaker, Nemesisbreaker, Razorclaw, Universe Leo Prime, Kimba, Mufasa, Simba, Scar, Solgaleo, shiny Solgaleo, Pyroar and shiny Pyroar colors lol. Taste the rainbow of lions. I want a whole bunch of lions so I can form Voltron. Wait, all the Voltron lions are female so that wouldn't work. I mean, none of them have manes so they must be female right? Maybe they're too young to grow out their majestic manes yet.
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 26th, 2022 @ 1:08am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 26th, 2022 @ 5:14am CDT
If it had been Hot Rod or Optimus with inverted colours, someone would have rectified it immediately. But it is neither a G1 character, nor one of the most popular. So zero F's were given to the error.
Posted by MaximalNui on June 26th, 2022 @ 9:05am CDT
- Diaclone colors (Burn Out & Clampdown): meh, okay I guess. Honestly I'd be more interested in an actual crossover with the Diaclone reboot than more Easter Egg repaints, but I'm not against it.
- Road Hauler: the screaming face is an odd choice, but seems good.
- Blurr: my only question is why they don't specify the universe for this one. Otherwise, I really like this remold.
- Cosmos: a bit of an oddball choice, and I'm not too sure about the protuding cockpit. However, all of that just makes it seem oddly endearing to me.
- Road Rocket: I'd probably remold or replace the Energon blade/shield with a buzzsaw, but otherwise a perfect retool. Nothing else to say.
- Override: yes! Double yes! Triple yes!
- Scourge:... ok, at first I was weirded out by the innacurate deco, and knowing that it was mostly due to not knowing which version of "anti-Optimus" to do just soured the whole thing more for me. But Sabrblade's little upgrade timeline theory made me warm up to the deco. I'll still wait to see if a better one comes along, though.
As for the leaked releases:
- I do hope Crasher is closer to the GoBots design. Takara and Bandai have teamed up now, so it's possible.
- I'm divided about Shadow Striker. On the one hand, if it's based on the Universe design, we might get a Side Burn retool that isn't such a massive shellformer. On the other, if it's the Cyberverse design, we might finally get the Frankensteined mold. I really don't know which one I want most.
- ... IDW Hot Rod? Energon Rodimus? Animated Rodimus? I really don't know.
- I'm hoping the Leader is Cybertron Crumplezone, but it probably will be someone else.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on June 26th, 2022 @ 9:17am CDT
MaximalNui wrote:- I'm divided about Shadow Striker. On the one hand, if it's based on the Universe design, we might get a Side Burn retool that isn't such a massive shellformer. On the other, if it's the Cyberverse design, we might finally get the Frankensteined mold. I really don't know which one I want most.
IMO, there's no way it's going to be Universe, I know RiD fans are still desperate for more, but this isn't how it'll happen. I don't think the Frankenstein approach is likely either, because the toy will still need to convert and none of the Cyberverse toys had that. Plus the most recent comics didn't keep that design element. Practically speaking, the best we could hope for would be recolored limbs, and I don't think that's very fun.
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 26th, 2022 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on June 26th, 2022 @ 3:09pm CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 26th, 2022 @ 3:10pm CDT
MeGrimlock78 wrote:So I was looking at Selects Ricochet...little retooling on the knee, little more to move the windshield to the hood...bingo bango, you've got Crasher!
See above.
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on June 26th, 2022 @ 3:23pm CDT
I REALLY gotta read ALL the posts before commenting.
Excellent work, btw!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 26th, 2022 @ 3:37pm CDT
On Crasher and Shadow Striker... ho boy. I can't really say anything about it that hasn't said except this: if they're the same general shape of car, there is a chance Crasher may actually be white to offset Shadow Striker:
... which happens to be the basis for SG Crasher
If she's a racing car like Movie 2007 Fracture... Earthrise Mirage will do just fine.
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 26th, 2022 @ 3:41pm CDT
MeGrimlock78 wrote:$;!\!&!
I REALLY gotta read ALL the posts before commenting.
Excellent work, btw!
NP. Btw, I didn't paint that. It's someone else's custom.
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:...there is a chance Crasher may actually be white to offset Shadow Striker...
Er...
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 26th, 2022 @ 4:43pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 28th, 2022 @ 8:23pm CDT
A favorite of mine....'nuff said!
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 29th, 2022 @ 1:45pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:
A favorite of mine....'nuff said!
I have this figure… Still sealed.
I doubt I will ever sell this one!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 29th, 2022 @ 2:40pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:
A favorite of mine....'nuff said!
I have this figure… Still sealed.
I doubt I will ever sell this one!
Well, it's not worth much. So might as well open her and marvel at how much a ragdoll she is in bot mode.
At least the vehicle is solid.
Posted by primalxconvoy on June 30th, 2022 @ 1:05am CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:
A favorite of mine....'nuff said!
I have this figure… Still sealed.
I doubt I will ever sell this one!
I painted the lips on mine pink and added her "mascara" too.
Posted by william-james88 on June 30th, 2022 @ 3:16pm CDT
Mark Maher wrote:Do you believe?!?!Here he is folks, in all of his cybertronian glory! COSMOS!
Lets get into it! For capsule programs and the mainline as a whole, we have certain allocated funds for new molds. I wanted a Cosmos badly, to further finish the deluxe minibots collection, but just because I love this guy. His voice, design aesthetic, colors, and especially his alt mode are all fire.
Swipe right and you will see how I sold him in as a partial tool using the Origins BB mold. He would of been more of a new rendition of him. I just didnt think a g1 version of him was possible with the tooling allocated. But TT made it happen All NEW in 3 molds!!!
Ittoku Kuwazu worked closely with Hasui Shogo in making this guy the best Cosmos evah! I chimed in on making the flag alt as a blaster and really worked hard on getting the proportions as close to his animation appearance as possible. As you can see from block model to final look, a lot had to happen. But with our great partnership this guy is ready to officiate the Speedia 500.
Let me know who you are routing for to become the new leader of Velocitron!!!
Posted by sol magnus on June 30th, 2022 @ 3:26pm CDT
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on June 30th, 2022 @ 3:42pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 30th, 2022 @ 3:45pm CDT
Posted by cruizerdave on June 30th, 2022 @ 3:54pm CDT
Posted by MCutter on June 30th, 2022 @ 4:04pm CDT
Posted by Brokebot on June 30th, 2022 @ 4:05pm CDT
Dumbest Cosmos evah!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 30th, 2022 @ 4:19pm CDT
Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery
Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery
The top does seem tall compared to the G1 original.
Posted by sol magnus on June 30th, 2022 @ 4:24pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery
Transformers G1 1985 Cosmos (Adams) (Reissue) Gallery
The top does seem tall compared to the G1 original.
it's about 1/4 taller than the animation model it's patterned after, which is taller than the original toy.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 30th, 2022 @ 4:58pm CDT
It is fun seeing this process though and looking at the rough prototypes.