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Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher

Transformers News: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher

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Yet again from the Twitter vault (geddit? because Volta?) of IDW Artist Sara Pitre Durocher, we have some concept art for another Transformers: Till All Are One new character: the Titan that was Vigilem before becoming Carcer and Vigilem once more! Check out the before and after sketches in the image below, and let us know what you think of the Liege Maximo vessel in the Energon Pub.

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Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1881509)
Posted by Kurona on May 14th, 2017 @ 8:08am CDT
I really do love how the Titans have such visual variety; they're not just all recolours of Metroplex.

Which, naturally, does make me wonder about Metrotitan... especially as I just read All Hail Optimus. Again. Damn that story's underrated.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1881512)
Posted by Randomhero on May 14th, 2017 @ 8:26am CDT
The original idea was that they all did look like metroplex. Metroplex, metrotitan, the necrotitan, all the ones that were scene in Remain in light, about twelve or more seen in the annual they all shared the same body type.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1881683)
Posted by ScottyP on May 14th, 2017 @ 10:54pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:The original idea was that they all did look like metroplex. Metroplex, metrotitan, the necrotitan, all the ones that were scene in Remain in light, about twelve or more seen in the annual they all shared the same body type.

This is where the info creep over time lends to the myths. The Metrotitan style Titans = Those of the Guiding Hand/Knights of Cybertrons. Viglem is of a cadre that belonged to the Thirteen Primes. How those actually converge, if they do at all (Metroplex being Alpha Trion's Titan?), is something I look forward to reading later on!
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885059)
Posted by Va'al on May 30th, 2017 @ 2:13am CDT
In other IDW Publishing news, and more squarely in the Transformers field, Till All Are One reaches its tenth issue this Wednesday, featuring the continuation of the new story arc, and the return of Blast Off and the Combaticons! Plus, Beast Wars meets Transformers: Prime, in the new character introduction...

Pop back after the book's release for a Seibertron.com review, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub!

Transformers: Till All Are One #10
Mairghread Scott (w) • Sara Pitre-Durocher (a & c)
As Starscream faces down the encroaching machinations of Elita One, he enlists Blast Off to help him bring Bruticus back!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
Variant cover by Marcelo Matere!


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Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885061)
Posted by Bounti76 on May 30th, 2017 @ 2:31am CDT
I knew IDW Airachnid would be connected to Eukaris. I wonder who the other spider-bot standing with Blackarachnia is.

Also, I kept reading her lines in Gina Torres' voice. :lol:
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885062)
Posted by grimlockprime108 on May 30th, 2017 @ 2:45am CDT
I think the other spider is based McDonald's transmetal blackarachnia toy.you know if it had been cool and not a lump
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885078)
Posted by Big Grim on May 30th, 2017 @ 7:26am CDT
Bounti76 wrote:Also, I kept reading her lines in Gina Torres' voice. :lol:

Snap. I came here to say the exact same thing! :D
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885080)
Posted by LE0KING on May 30th, 2017 @ 7:41am CDT
I don't care if it's Hasbro, third party, or some guy in his mom's basement, someone give me a good airachnid toy! :-(
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885085)
Posted by Randomhero on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:12am CDT
Looks more like a spider version of Antagony but it doesn't matter, probably just an Easter egg of someone who won't show up again.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885087)
Posted by Randomhero on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:14am CDT
LE0KING wrote:I don't care if it's Hasbro, third party, or some guy in his mom's basement, someone give me a good airachnid toy! :-(



It's certainly a figure I don't regret selling. Found her said "yes, I don't care if she's a bad figure I found her!" Opened her up and sucked my teeth and 3 weeks later sold to someone.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885088)
Posted by Kurona on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:20am CDT
LE0KING wrote:I don't care if it's Hasbro, third party, or some guy in his mom's basement, someone give me a good airachnid toy! :-(

Heard the legion isn't bad.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885090)
Posted by LE0KING on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:32am CDT
Have the legion, love it. Need it bigger.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885100)
Posted by Randomhero on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:54am CDT
Kurona wrote:
LE0KING wrote:I don't care if it's Hasbro, third party, or some guy in his mom's basement, someone give me a good airachnid toy! :-(

Heard the legion isn't bad.



Legion one can actually move its arms and legs.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885107)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on May 30th, 2017 @ 9:31am CDT
Randomhero wrote:
Kurona wrote:
LE0KING wrote:I don't care if it's Hasbro, third party, or some guy in his mom's basement, someone give me a good airachnid toy! :-(

Heard the legion isn't bad.



Legion one can actually move its arms and legs.


Also it's legion, so if your building a Neo G1 IDW and/or Prime, it won't exactly fit in. Genuinely surprised with how popular of a character she is a 3rd party hasn't taken a crack at a Neo-g1 style arachnid. Anyway back to the comic, I had a feeling as soon at there was any hint to Airachnid being in TAAO, that she would've been responsible for the killings in the first issue. I do find it interesting that Airachnid is performing something very similar to mneurosurgery, without exactly being it. Opens more lore without it being something to similar to what was explored with chromedome. Also I like how most of Starscream and Airachnid's dialog is full of backhanded compliments and veiled insults.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885116)
Posted by Kurona on May 30th, 2017 @ 10:35am CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Also I like how most of Starscream and Airachnid's dialog is full of backhanded compliments and veiled insults.

Their relationship is absolutely perfect - I think it may be too much to ask for her to be a main player, but dear god would I love for her to show up again. I much prefer her as Starscream's partner-in-crime to Rattrap.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885184)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 30th, 2017 @ 12:42pm CDT
Big Grim wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:Also, I kept reading her lines in Gina Torres' voice. :lol:

Snap. I came here to say the exact same thing! :D

and I was thinking the exact same thing too!!

Dang, now if only I could read Starscream in Steve Blum's voice. I haven't really been able to do that yet
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885187)
Posted by Kurona on May 30th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Big Grim wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:Also, I kept reading her lines in Gina Torres' voice. :lol:

Snap. I came here to say the exact same thing! :D

and I was thinking the exact same thing too!!

Dang, now if only I could read Starscream in Steve Blum's voice. I haven't really been able to do that yet

What we need is a very, very good voiceover. I wouldn't have even thought of Animated Megatron as the voice for IDW Megatron (or, hell, as my favourite Megatron voice) until this very awesome video. But now it fits perfectly! (mtmte32spoilers)

Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885426)
Posted by Big Grim on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:25am CDT
Kurona wrote:What we need is a very, very good voiceover. I wouldn't have even thought of Animated Megatron as the voice for IDW Megatron (or, hell, as my favourite Megatron voice) until this very awesome video. But now it fits perfectly! (mtmte32spoilers)


Wow! That's really rather splendid!
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885591)
Posted by ScottyP on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:00pm CDT
So 10. That was so good. Blast Off went from "somewhat defined supporting role character" to "deeply relatable, well rounded, conflicted, possibly critically important" in 20 pages. All the creators involved should take a bow :BOWDOWN:

And I didn't even touch on Starscream yet. Keeps getting better somehow. Guess the ceiling is the roof for how far they're gonna take him and it is so fun to read.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885593)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:02pm CDT
Since this thread was posted in, the review will hopefully be coming tonight. Some stuff has been interfering and this is an issue that writing a good review for is difficult.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885594)
Posted by Kurona on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:03pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:So 10. That was so good. Blast Off went from "somewhat defined supporting role character" to "deeply relatable, well rounded, conflicted, possibly critically important" in 20 pages. All the creators involved should take a bow :BOWDOWN:

And I didn't even touch on Starscream yet. Keeps getting better somehow. Guess the ceiling is the roof for how far they're gonna take him and it is so fun to read.

Starscream starts from the whole 'I am a terrible person and I will never stop being a terrible person so why even try' resolution at the end of last issue (for lack of a better phrase :lol: ) and absolutely RUNS with it in this issue. And like I said above, his relationship with Airachnid is perfect and I want to see more of her. The two are absolutely devious.

Blast Off as well has shot up to one of the best characters in the comic. He was already well on the way there but #10 sealed it.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885603)
Posted by LE0KING on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:28pm CDT
So please don't take this out of context.

Why is it that every single relationship shown in IDW has been same sex? Don't get me wrong, I understand that there wasn't gender on cybertron, but ever since fembots became a thing there still hasn't been a straight couple. We've had 8 total couples shown on page, 3 fembot on fembot and 5 robot on robot. The closest we've gotten was Skids and Nautica and that never got past the high school crush phase. And with Chromia leaving I doubt Ironhide will have a shot.
Am I the only person who has issues with this? Or am I wrong?
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885606)
Posted by Kurona on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:33pm CDT
LE0KING wrote:So please don't take this out of context.

Why is it that every single relationship shown in IDW has been same sex? Don't get me wrong, I understand that there wasn't gender on cybertron, but ever since fembots became a thing there still hasn't been a straight couple. We've had 8 total couples shown on page, 3 fembot on fembot and 5 robot on robot. The closest we've gotten was Skids and Nautica and that never got past the high school crush phase. And with Chromia leaving I doubt Ironhide will have a shot.
Am I the only person who has issues with this? Or am I wrong?

Sparkstalker and Lightbright, Tigatron and Airazor. Heavy hinting with Arcee and Sideswipe as well as Nautica with Brainstorm.
Regardless, considering I've seen so much fiction which purely had straight relationships, I'm very happy to have fiction which almost purely has non-straight relationships. And it makes sense considering the worldbuilding has stated Cybertron is not a hetero-normative society unlike the culture most of us are used to and live in.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885614)
Posted by Kurona on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:47pm CDT
Completely out of the blue just after its tenth issue was released today, head writer Mairghread Scott has posted on her blog the very unfortunate news that the third Transformers ongoing, Till All Are One - a continuation of the previous Windblade volumes - will be cancelled after Issue 12. According to the blog post, this is apparently not an editorial decision but Scott's own for reasons relating to writing, finding the best way to get across her story, and out of not wanting to write another story she feels she would not be able to put as much passion into simply for the sake of continuing the comic. Hence as a series Till All Are One will be discontinued, but as a story it will continue on after Issue #12 in an as-of-yet unnamed annual planned for release in either late 2017 or early 2018 as its ending. The rest of her blog post details Scott's favourite moments writing Till All Are One, the things she wished she could have done but didn't get to, and her camaraderie with the creative team - which you can all peruse below if you wish, and tell us what you think of this in the Energon Pub forums.

I should have written this a while ago, but I wanted to wait until after Issue #10 because it was such an important issue for me, a triumph of our series. And I think it truly is a triumph. It’s difficult and uncomfortable and still very compelling. This is in big part thanks to Sara’s amazing art and Joana’s amazing colors. So now I’ll say it. We’re cancelled.

What happened? Nothing.

Our attrition rate was fairly normal and Issue 12 would be our profitability breaking point. We were asked if we wanted to do something to shake things up (shift focus, shift cast, shift story) after the First Strike event, which is also normal, but I didn’t. I love Transformers, but I’ve been writing it for literally years and I wanted to tell this story. So rather than think of a new story I didn’t love as much, I just chose to end us here.

Till All Are One will go to Issue 12 and then an annual will be put out late 2017/early 2018 to wrap up any loose threads. A thousand thanks to our editor, Carlos, for giving us that much-needed space. A thousand thanks to Sara and Joana and Priscilla and Tom and John and Meg and Jason and all the people I know I’m forgetting and shouldn’t.

Issue 11 and 12 are going to be awesome by the way. I think we crafted a really satisfying, positive ending emotionally and the annual puts that needed cherry on top. We did something I never thought I’d be able to pull off that I’ll talk about more when it’s released.

In the meantime, I’d like to take a moment to say all the things I couldn’t before:

FAVORITE LINE I EVER WROTE:

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FAVORITE THING SARA’S EVER DRAWN:

The Combaticons. Think about it. These guys DON’T HAVE FACES! (Well, Blast Off does) and she makes them so expressive without making it seem like she’s cheating their designs or making them cartoony. I had to keep writing them!

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WORST THING I EVER MADE SARA DRAW:

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The Bruticus face made out of Combaticons. Even as I wrote it I was like “I’ve got nothing. Good luck!” Naturally, she knocked it out of the park, but I still feel bad. [NOTE: this doesn’t include Issue 12, which may still kill her because it’s also basically impossible.]

THINGS I WANTED TO WRITE BUT DIDN’T HAVE TIME TO:

-Ironhide’s private security firm and their wacky adventures (mostly with Tall Tankor and Fat Tankor)

-An issue of Titan’s Return just about the Maccadam’s Crew having to defend the bar from being smushed.

-Lightbright and Sparkstalker’s Conjunx Endura ceremony.

-Somehow bringing together all the femmes from the G1 crew onto one team for an issue.

-Breakdown calling out Knock Out for weight-shaming.

-Exploring the racial/tribal divides on Eukaris.

-Giving Metroplex an avatar so he could move around the city and meet people like a normal ‘Bot.

-Metroplex goes to Caminus and has to come to terms with the cut-up body of his most treasured companion.

-Tall Tankor and Fat Tankor meet the Micromaster Tankor that turns into a train and they hate him for, like, no reason. He just can’t get into the “tankor clique”.

-Elita One takes over Kaon and builds a militarized city-state that threatens to reignite the war.

-Revealing Windblade and Chromia’s holo-avatars.

-Having everyone from Cybertron be disturbed by Elita One because she is literally the color of energon so it’s like meeting someone painted in blood.

BONUS THINGS YOU DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT FAT TANKOR:

-There were two separate occasions where my husband argued that Fat Tankor should die for emotional impact and I just couldn’t kill him.

-I almost took out the name “Fat Tankor” in the final proof of Windblade Vol. 1 because robots can’t be fat and I was nervous, but John Barber insisted I keep it.

Finally,

I want to take a moment and thank you, the readers. You’ve made me stronger, bolder, and better at my craft and the love you have shown this story has been inspiring. I will miss you most of all and I hope you follow me on my next books (because there will be more books) even if they don’t have giant robots.

Be Well,

Mairghread Wild Scott
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885616)
Posted by LE0KING on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:52pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
LE0KING wrote:So please don't take this out of context.

Why is it that every single relationship shown in IDW has been same sex? Don't get me wrong, I understand that there wasn't gender on cybertron, but ever since fembots became a thing there still hasn't been a straight couple. We've had 8 total couples shown on page, 3 fembot on fembot and 5 robot on robot. The closest we've gotten was Skids and Nautica and that never got past the high school crush phase. And with Chromia leaving I doubt Ironhide will have a shot.
Am I the only person who has issues with this? Or am I wrong?

Sparkstalker and Lightbright, Tigatron and Airazor. Heavy hinting with Arcee and Sideswipe as well as Nautica with Brainstorm.
Regardless, considering I've seen so much fiction which purely had straight relationships, I'm very happy to have fiction which almost purely has non-straight relationships. And it makes sense considering the worldbuilding has stated Cybertron is not a hetero-normative society unlike the culture most of us are used to and live in.

Ah, thank you. I'd forgotten tigatron and airazor.
Did they ever make sparkstalker and lightbright a couple? I don't remember them getting more than a few lines in one of the windblade comics.
Personally i don't think arcee is capable of that kind of relationship, she's just now learning how to make friends and not decapitate them. ;)
But still, even if you were to pick your sparkmate by random chance 2 to 8 are rough odds.
I only take issue with it because there's not a lot of gay people where I'm from so I have trouble relating. (Yes, I admit, I struggle to relate to million year old murderous robots)
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885617)
Posted by ScottyP on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:53pm CDT
Absolutely gutted. This was a great Transformers story that I wanted to see evolve even further and it's a shame that it appears it won't get the chance.

At the same time, this isn't super shocking given the sales. I think the TF comics faithful had bought into this one a while ago, but new readers and the folks that jumped ship last fall (you know who you are) never came around to it. Good job, nerds.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885618)
Posted by Kurona on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:54pm CDT
So, couple thoughts.

I was of course upset about this when I saw the name of the article and worried that something terrible had happened like the higher-ups deciding it wasn't making as much money or such. But upon actually reading the post, it made me extraordinarily happy - in a world where comics can come and go at the drop of a proverbial editorial hat, this cancellation is not happening because of some money-related business or some petty ass in charge; Scott is in complete control of this decision. She is deciding to end this story because she truly feels that this is in full the story she wanted to write and has written, and does not want to burden anyone and indeed herself and her creative team with another story she wouldn't feel as much passion for just because 'might as well continue the comic'. This is the writer saying that this is the perfect place for the story to end and the perfect direction in which to take things.

So while it's of course very sad to see the cancellation of an excellent ongoing - arguably the best ongoing of the three IDW comics this year - it's fantastic to know that that ending is coming about for legitimate reasons that come from a place of passion and reason rather than mandates and profit. This has been an incredible story to follow for the past almost-year, and I will adore seeing how it all culminates in the end :)
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885621)
Posted by Kurona on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:56pm CDT
LE0KING wrote:
Kurona wrote:
LE0KING wrote:So please don't take this out of context.

Why is it that every single relationship shown in IDW has been same sex? Don't get me wrong, I understand that there wasn't gender on cybertron, but ever since fembots became a thing there still hasn't been a straight couple. We've had 8 total couples shown on page, 3 fembot on fembot and 5 robot on robot. The closest we've gotten was Skids and Nautica and that never got past the high school crush phase. And with Chromia leaving I doubt Ironhide will have a shot.
Am I the only person who has issues with this? Or am I wrong?

Sparkstalker and Lightbright, Tigatron and Airazor. Heavy hinting with Arcee and Sideswipe as well as Nautica with Brainstorm.
Regardless, considering I've seen so much fiction which purely had straight relationships, I'm very happy to have fiction which almost purely has non-straight relationships. And it makes sense considering the worldbuilding has stated Cybertron is not a hetero-normative society unlike the culture most of us are used to and live in.

Did they ever make sparkstalker and lightbright a couple? I don't remember them getting more than a few lines in one of the windblade comics.

Wonderfully, I had the exact comic this happened in opened and just a page away from the panel:

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The 2015 Holiday Special is a thing of beauty.

Also, depends on the people around you and your environment (and, naturally, how accepting it may or may not be). I'm a queer lady myself, and the majority of my friend groups both in real life and online are of LGBT+ identities as well.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885622)
Posted by ScottyP on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:57pm CDT
I took it as "you have to shake it up to get some sales", then she made the call to just close the curtains here rather than do a stunt launch for something less genuine. This is very close to what you said, yes, but I think $ was the genesis.
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Posted by LE0KING on May 31st, 2017 @ 9:05pm CDT
Wow, that's really disappointing. I really like this comic and would rather have lost the optimus ongoing than taao. This team did an amazing job and really won the hearts of alot of people. They made this comic my favorite in just a few issues. I wish them the best.
Here's hoping this isn't the end of the cybertron stories.

I think you're right Scotty. Sounds like They wanted a change and she didn't. So to keep from potentially ruining a project she loved, she chose to end it. I can respect that. I hate that it happened, but I can respect it.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885633)
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 31st, 2017 @ 9:16pm CDT
While this is sad news for those who liked the series, I'm not surprised. This series never felt right to me. That is in large part to what I see as misuse of the Stars cream character. Also, I've never been a huge fan of the Cybertron storylines, and this series never picked up with me. I really liked the Windblade character at first, but she has felt stale as of late.


Honestly, since the revelation debacle, I've simply had a hard time caring about any of the books, even my beloved MTMTE/Lost Light.

I listen to the podcasts, and I try to see the points that ScottyP makes, but they just aren't there for me. The books have become boring, I just hope this isn't a beginning trend. :(




On a side note, I'll admit some of my negative feelings could be due to my bitterness at IDW for their extreme failure and mishandling of M.A.S.K. it's been a very bad year for comics.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885635)
Posted by SG Roadbuster on May 31st, 2017 @ 9:27pm CDT
so let me get this right
the book was consistently good, and good BECAUSE of it's consistency.
some dips@#$ in upper management wanted a status quo shakeup, after this year's stupid f*&%ing crossover event
Scott didnt want to shake up her status quo because she had an actual f%&*ing story planned.
book gets cancelled
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885639)
Posted by dragons on May 31st, 2017 @ 9:33pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
LE0KING wrote:
Kurona wrote:
LE0KING wrote:So please don't take this out of context.

Why is it that every single relationship shown in IDW has been same sex? Don't get me wrong, I understand that there wasn't gender on cybertron, but ever since fembots became a thing there still hasn't been a straight couple. We've had 8 total couples shown on page, 3 fembot on fembot and 5 robot on robot. The closest we've gotten was Skids and Nautica and that never got past the high school crush phase. And with Chromia leaving I doubt Ironhide will have a shot.
Am I the only person who has issues with this? Or am I wrong?

Sparkstalker and Lightbright, Tigatron and Airazor. Heavy hinting with Arcee and Sideswipe as well as Nautica with Brainstorm.
Regardless, considering I've seen so much fiction which purely had straight relationships, I'm very happy to have fiction which almost purely has non-straight relationships. And it makes sense considering the worldbuilding has stated Cybertron is not a hetero-normative society unlike the culture most of us are used to and live in.

Did they ever make sparkstalker and lightbright a couple? I don't remember them getting more than a few lines in one of the windblade comics.

Wonderfully, I had the exact comic this happened in opened and just a page away from the panel:

Image

The 2015 Holiday Special is a thing of beauty.

Also, depends on the people around you and your environment (and, naturally, how accepting it may or may not be). I'm a queer lady myself, and the majority of my friend groups both in real life and online are of LGBT+ identities as well.



I prefer see real transformers devastator balls than see this I can't tell if this was meant to be funny actually happening transformers getting married it's joke right
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885678)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 31st, 2017 @ 10:24pm CDT
Review will come tomorrow. Promise you that.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885685)
Posted by RNSrobot on May 31st, 2017 @ 10:47pm CDT
I don't think you have to read very far between the lines to understand this is not a sweet and rosy exit.


"this is apparently not an editorial decision but Scott's own for reasons relating to writing, finding the best way to get across her story, and out of not wanting to write another story she feels she would not be able to put as much passion into simply for the sake of continuing the comic. "

It's not editorial's "decision" in a purely legalistic sense. But they weren't going to allow Scott to continue writing the TAAO book she wanted to. She's leaving instead of writing a story she doesn't want to write about characters she doesn't care about. Her decision is forced, as her options are basically a. write shit she doesn't want to b. quit c. likely be fired.

Others have pointed out some of the other problems with this. But this is not a sweet decision, it's frustrating, particularly as TAAO has quietly become the best TF book. Lost Light has completely failed me, OP is just Barber Barbering, and I've dropped both (hard decision on LL because of what MTMTE meant/means to me, but...). I literally just this morning said to a friend "damn, this is the best issue Scott's ever written. This is fucking amazing. She's entirely found her groove." I LOVE her Combaticons. I was in to read this for a long time because it's simply become fantastic.

And ffffffft.

I'm done with IDW and their Transformers comics. I have no issue with the shared universe, but I have zero interest in continuing with a company that has, in less than one calendar year, seen a new editorial staff completely ruin what was a stunning golden age of Transformers comics.

Peace.
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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on May 31st, 2017 @ 11:30pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:I took it as "you have to shake it up to get some sales", then she made the call to just close the curtains here rather than do a stunt launch for something less genuine. This is very close to what you said, yes, but I think $ was the genesis.

I think another factor is she could seriously be burned out with how many "Start/Stop/Start/Stop/Start/Stop" moments there were between the beginning of Windblade to TAAO. Delays, Crossovers, More delays, Creative team changes, not to mention what ever editorial mandates were beginning to creep their way into her production.
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Posted by Black Bumblebee on June 1st, 2017 @ 12:12am CDT
Damn it. Stop with the @%@%@ event crossover events and let the writers freaking write the stories that they want to write. We were enjoying them. @%@%@%@%!5&(*&ew@#%@.

The world sucks. :-/
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885746)
Posted by X3ROhour on June 1st, 2017 @ 1:27am CDT
:-(

wha...?
what are we supposed to do now?
how arrewedff
how r we going to experience life on Cybertron?
there is just so much left untold!
why?
can't we stop micronauts
or revolutionaries
or or oror
or
everything else?!

or start some new talent take over continuation?
with a writer that want to
or willing to do the whole
multitude of introducing a big new angle
that she didn't want to do?

do we kill an entire universe because the writer wouldn't be excited or motivated?
helllll noooooo!
get a new writer
or writers
that will bring in aspects of story that grab us?

we r gonna have to have just Lost Light and Optimus to sustain us?

oh gods...
:shock: :oops: :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885749)
Posted by X3ROhour on June 1st, 2017 @ 1:28am CDT
Black Bumblebee wrote:Damn it. Stop with the @%@%@ event crossover events and let the writers freaking write the stories that they want to write. We were enjoying them. @%@%@%@%!5&(*&ew@#%@.

The world sucks. :-/


in the vernacular of my time
WORD!
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Posted by Coptur on June 1st, 2017 @ 3:18am CDT
Wow just wow

Like others in the forum I thought TAAO was now the best TF comic.

To me i'm fed up with LL and OP is ok but not keeping me engaged enough.

I agree with another poster about MASK from the announcement i was unhappy with it.
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Posted by Va'al on June 1st, 2017 @ 4:22am CDT
In comics news from IDW Publishing and their site, and trying to alleviate the news of Transformers: Till All Are One reaching its end with issue #12, we have subscription cover art for next month's book, featuring a lot of Starscream, by Priscilla Tramontano and James Raiz (plus colourists please and thank you)! Check them out below.


With Elita One’s influence closing in around Starscream, he’s desperate to make any alliances he can. Turns out, a powerful ally might already be within his grasp. But is he willing to risk his own sanity to reach them?


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Posted by LE0KING on June 1st, 2017 @ 4:28am CDT
I feel like this book was picking up steam and if they'd left it alone it would have gotten the numbers on its own.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 1st, 2017 @ 4:32am CDT
Well, now I'm kinda glad I held off on all 3 of the ongoings. I was going to get the LL TPBs, but now I have my doubts. I never cared for the OP comic, so that's an easy pass. But TAAO really had me curious. It seemed to go in a different direction, giving some characters their long overdue attention. After the initial interest, though, I kinda mellowed on it, and was gonna get the TPBs. But now? Not sure. Depends on how the entire story plays out.

As for the comic itself being cancelled, and the reasons for it? The writer might have her side of it, but in the end, it all comes down to money. If it has been profitable, IDW would have found someone else to write it and they would have continued with the title. Unless Scott herself legally owns the title of "Till All Are One" and they would have to call it something else. Bottom line is, the comic wasn't selling well enough to justify continuation, and that usually has to do with the quality of what's on the page. (I'm not saying in every case, but most cases.) So maybe Scott should look in the mirror before blaming anyone else. Again, I'm not saying this is a certainty, but it's a possibility. Just because some of us on these boards think the story is amazing, the majority of comic readers might not think so, thus skip buying the issues, leading to it being a financial failure.
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Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on June 1st, 2017 @ 5:52am CDT
Regarding Metroplex's avatar: I always thought that Scamper acted as his avatar, in the IDW continuity anyway. Maybe he's just a drone?
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Posted by Va'al on June 1st, 2017 @ 5:55am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Well, now I'm kinda glad I held off on all 3 of the ongoings. I was going to get the LL TPBs, but now I have my doubts. I never cared for the OP comic, so that's an easy pass. But TAAO really had me curious. It seemed to go in a different direction, giving some characters their long overdue attention. After the initial interest, though, I kinda mellowed on it, and was gonna get the TPBs. But now? Not sure. Depends on how the entire story plays out.

As for the comic itself being cancelled, and the reasons for it? The writer might have her side of it, but in the end, it all comes down to money. If it has been profitable, IDW would have found someone else to write it and they would have continued with the title. Unless Scott herself legally owns the title of "Till All Are One" and they would have to call it something else. Bottom line is, the comic wasn't selling well enough to justify continuation, and that usually has to do with the quality of what's on the page. (I'm not saying in every case, but most cases.) So maybe Scott should look in the mirror before blaming anyone else. Again, I'm not saying this is a certainty, but it's a possibility. Just because some of us on these boards think the story is amazing, the majority of comic readers might not think so, thus skip buying the issues, leading to it being a financial failure.


Sure. But also, EVENTS.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885821)
Posted by Big Grim on June 1st, 2017 @ 7:56am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Absolutely gutted. This was a great Transformers story that I wanted to see evolve even further and it's a shame that it appears it won't get the chance.

Agreed. This has overtaken MTMTE/Lost Light for best TF ongoing.

Kurona wrote:So while it's of course very sad to see the cancellation of an excellent ongoing - arguably the best ongoing of the three IDW comics this year - it's fantastic to know that that ending is coming about for legitimate reasons that come from a place of passion and reason rather than mandates and profit. This has been an incredible story to follow for the past almost-year, and I will adore seeing how it all culminates in the end :)

Oh definately! Her post about it was really rather lovely concerning her team, her achievements and that sign off to the fans. I wish her well!
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Posted by Coptur on June 1st, 2017 @ 10:11am CDT
Just finished #10 now i really hope Onslaught find out about this deception of his thoughts.

Yes Arachnid is clever but this is/has been a close knit unit for millions of years with their combined/merged minds something will have to slip and Swindle and Vortex might be Onslaught's saving grace...can't say Blast-Off will fair well upon ultimate revelation.
Other means of finding out..another mind surgeon (i'm not spelling nmennonononm!?!?)!?!?
A scramble city style type combination!?!?
Soundwave mind scan?!?


Three ongoing titles for transformers was always too many imo

LL for me now is not what i want from a Transformers comics 'Friends in space' isn't my cup of tea, i'm happy for those that do like it though. i'm not here to bash anyone else's tastes just voicing(venting) my view on it.
OP i now find quite boring.
Revolutionaries i actually don't mind tbh i find myself switching/caring more about gijoe/action force than TF.

It's high time we had another TF only event love it or hate it like AHM to really relight a dimming fire.
Re: Concept Art for Titan Vigilem in IDW Transformers: Till All Are One, By Pitre Durocher (1885885)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on June 1st, 2017 @ 10:30am CDT
TAAO was the best comic.
OP is dull and the coloring makes it ugly.
LL is horrible.
REVOLUTIONARIES was great but is done.
This upcoming annual seems like a good time to jump off Transformers comics.
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Posted by Kurona on June 1st, 2017 @ 10:49am CDT
I feel you guys are really sleeping on the other books. TAAO has been the best this year no contest, but OP's managed to pull off early RiD's political stuff far more successfully while granting us strong characterisation and backstory; while Lost Light hasn't been quite as good as MTMTE but this arc hasn't been awful and there's some good stuff around the corner. Most if not all continuing stories have some period where they're not as good as they could be - especially if it's coming right off the heels of re-branding, a huge crossover event and toy promotions - but that's not an indication of waning quality unless it continues.
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Posted by snavej on June 1st, 2017 @ 11:56am CDT
Onslaught / Blast Off romance?! [Cringe, shudder] Awkward! It seems to go against their natures.

Windblade might be still alive due to her mind link with the Liege Maximo: her mind could be lodged in his brain.

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