Comparison - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends vs Titans Return Hardhead
Wednesday, August 3rd, 2016 4:43AM CDT
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Hardhead was one of the original Headmasters introduced during the Rebirth miniseries. I've always felt a closer connection to the US fiction than the Takara version, where the smaller robots were the characters who combined with transforming vehicles. Takara as usual has enhanced the experience with a cartoon accurate deco and face, while including a repainted Titan Master vehicle to round out the pack. The Legends set is the better value but may be harder to find at this point.
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Posted by Randomhero on August 3rd, 2016 @ 6:48am CDT
Posted by Insurgent on August 3rd, 2016 @ 6:52am CDT
I do much prefer the takara one. Not just for the head, though that was the draw. So glad managed to snag him for 20 quid.
Posted by Cyberpath on August 3rd, 2016 @ 7:37am CDT
早く帰りたくとも帰れない時もあれば、早く帰れるはずなのに帰れない時もある。夏季休暇まで残すところ一週間、正念場です! 画像はワンフェスで展示したグレースーパージンライ! 手首の回転ありますよ♪
Translated from Japanese by Bing
If at home and want to go home early, early sometimes but would return home.
Left for summer vacation until 1 week, the moment of truth is! The image displayed at wonfes grace pasinli! Rotation of the wrist you'll ♪
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2016 @ 9:37am CDT
早く帰りたくとも帰れない時もあれば、早く帰れるはずなのに帰れない時もある。夏季休暇まで残すところ一週間、正念場です! 画像はワンフェスで展示したグレースーパージンライ! 手首の回転ありますよ♪
Translated from Japanese by Bing
If at home and want to go home early, early sometimes but would return home.
Left for summer vacation until 1 week, the moment of truth is! The image displayed at wonfes grace pasinli! Rotation of the wrist you'll ♪
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on August 3rd, 2016 @ 9:40am CDT
Kurona wrote:Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, we now have an in-hand prototype shot of TakaraTomy's LG35 Ginrai from TFYuki's Twitter - an extensive retool of Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime, itself an extensive retool of Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus. TFYuki also comments in particular on Ginrai's wrist articulation, a feature missing on his Hasbro counterpart. Check out the image below and feel free to compare with our gallery of Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime!早く帰りたくとも帰れない時もあれば、早く帰れるはずなのに帰れない時もある。夏季休暇まで残すところ一週間、正念場です! 画像はワンフェスで展示したグレースーパージンライ! 手首の回転ありますよ♪
Translated from Japanese by Bing
If at home and want to go home early, early sometimes but would return home.
Left for summer vacation until 1 week, the moment of truth is! The image displayed at wonfes grace pasinli! Rotation of the wrist you'll ♪
I'm sorry, but anyone who says Powermaster Optimus Prime is better than Super Ginrai are just wrong.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 3rd, 2016 @ 9:44am CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Kurona wrote:Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, we now have an in-hand prototype shot of TakaraTomy's LG35 Ginrai from TFYuki's Twitter - an extensive retool of Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime, itself an extensive retool of Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus. TFYuki also comments in particular on Ginrai's wrist articulation, a feature missing on his Hasbro counterpart. Check out the image below and feel free to compare with our gallery of Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime!
I'm sorry, but anyone who says Powermaster Optimus Prime is better than Super Ginrai are just wrong.
Cool, thanks for letting me know that, despite having a rational and objectively based opinion about them, that I'm still wrong
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on August 3rd, 2016 @ 9:50am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Kurona wrote:Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, we now have an in-hand prototype shot of TakaraTomy's LG35 Ginrai from TFYuki's Twitter - an extensive retool of Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime, itself an extensive retool of Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus. TFYuki also comments in particular on Ginrai's wrist articulation, a feature missing on his Hasbro counterpart. Check out the image below and feel free to compare with our gallery of Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime!
I'm sorry, but anyone who says Powermaster Optimus Prime is better than Super Ginrai are just wrong.
Cool, thanks for letting me know that, despite having a rational and objectively based opinion about them, that I'm still wrong
Does someone just crap in your cereal every morning? Cheer up, dude!
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on August 3rd, 2016 @ 10:43am CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Kurona wrote:Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, we now have an in-hand prototype shot of TakaraTomy's LG35 Ginrai from TFYuki's Twitter - an extensive retool of Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime, itself an extensive retool of Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus. TFYuki also comments in particular on Ginrai's wrist articulation, a feature missing on his Hasbro counterpart. Check out the image below and feel free to compare with our gallery of Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime!早く帰りたくとも帰れない時もあれば、早く帰れるはずなのに帰れない時もある。夏季休暇まで残すところ一週間、正念場です! 画像はワンフェスで展示したグレースーパージンライ! 手首の回転ありますよ♪
Translated from Japanese by Bing
If at home and want to go home early, early sometimes but would return home.
Left for summer vacation until 1 week, the moment of truth is! The image displayed at wonfes grace pasinli! Rotation of the wrist you'll ♪
I'm sorry, but anyone who says Powermaster Optimus Prime is better than Super Ginrai are just wrong.
I think President Bartlett said it best:
Posted by Agamemnon on August 3rd, 2016 @ 10:46am CDT
I'm really hoping the feet look better in person...
Posted by fenrir72 on August 3rd, 2016 @ 12:38pm CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on August 3rd, 2016 @ 12:43pm CDT
I think that is the most off putting about the feet, that the trailer separates from them. I know that can't really be fixed, but that is the only issue I have. I still think he's better than my Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime in every way thoughAgamemnon wrote:I like a lot about Ginrai, but my eyes keep getting drawn down to those "feet." And something about them, maybe the way the trailer wheels hang off of the ankle, I don't know, but it kinda ruins the fig for me. I will probably still get him, but he may stay in semi mode in my display....
I'm really hoping the feet look better in person...
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 3rd, 2016 @ 12:57pm CDT
As for Hardhead I prefer the Hasbro one. For me, Hardhead just looks better with a mouthplate like my old G1 toy. That's my preference.
Posted by SureShot18 on August 3rd, 2016 @ 2:31pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 3rd, 2016 @ 3:23pm CDT
My only other hookup is the hand guns. While they're an improvement over the Hasbro guns I don't understand the shape. To me the should be massive canons, not skinny little laser rifles. And what's with the blue? I'm trying to find a still from the cartoon to see how they look there, but I can't find one to compare.
Emerje
Posted by Railbomb on August 3rd, 2016 @ 4:21pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 3rd, 2016 @ 4:23pm CDT
Blue.Railbomb wrote:The most important question I have about Super Ginrai is are the eyes going to be red or blue.
Posted by Overcracker on August 3rd, 2016 @ 4:27pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Yeah the 'feet' look really terrible. The chest area looks improved though. New cab?
Yes:
Posted by Railbomb on August 3rd, 2016 @ 4:29pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Blue.Railbomb wrote:The most important question I have about Super Ginrai is are the eyes going to be red or blue.
That's a shame. I would have prefered red to match the OG toy but it seems neither Hasbro or Takara wanted to do that. Maybe they'll end up releasing a titan master that can work as red-eyed PM Optimus under the mask.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 3rd, 2016 @ 4:40pm CDT
On both sides of the Pacific, however, PM Optimus and Super Ginrai each had blue eyes in their respective television series.Railbomb wrote:That's a shame. I would have prefered red to match the OG toy but it seems neither Hasbro or Takara wanted to do that. Maybe they'll end up releasing a titan master that can work as red-eyed PM Optimus under the mask.
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2016 @ 4:43pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:On both sides of the Pacific, however, PM Optimus and Super Ginrai each had blue eyes in their respective television series.Railbomb wrote:That's a shame. I would have prefered red to match the OG toy but it seems neither Hasbro or Takara wanted to do that. Maybe they'll end up releasing a titan master that can work as red-eyed PM Optimus under the mask.
Woah, Tommy went through a real makeover when he went to Japan.
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 3rd, 2016 @ 7:32pm CDT
Posted by Insurgent on August 3rd, 2016 @ 7:37pm CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 3rd, 2016 @ 7:40pm CDT
Honestly I loved the design, it's very neat looking. I just wish it was leader-class, but eh. It works. You know? Mostly that's for scaling reasons. I love the larger figures for TFs.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on August 3rd, 2016 @ 7:40pm CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 3rd, 2016 @ 7:44pm CDT
Posted by Sigma Magnus on August 3rd, 2016 @ 7:46pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:Is there a guide of sorts floating around here for that Sigma? Or is it easily done to the point you don't need a guide and you can just fiddle with it on your own?
Just fiddle with it, no disassembly needed.
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 3rd, 2016 @ 7:50pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 3rd, 2016 @ 7:56pm CDT
The Windblade mold is a decent toy but very fiddly and sometimes some parts don't like to stay held together, but it's not terrible.Tyrannacon wrote:So I have my eyes on the Legends Slipstream because I like her design and I don't have any female Decepticons. Something I plan to change here soon-ish. I know she's a retool of Windblade though. What are the thoughts and consensus on the figure? Any issues I need to be aware of? The only Takara figure I have otherwise is the Deluxe Transformers Prime/First Edition Megatron and I'm fairly happy with it.
Though, bear in mind that Legends Slipstream is meant to be the Animated character proper in an upgraded body form, rather than a G1 equivalent version of the Animated character, thus her head has a very Animated-based aesthetic, and her deco has lots of shiny paint apps to match the shininess of the Japanese Animated line.
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 3rd, 2016 @ 8:25pm CDT
Personally, I like the Legends toy more than the TFCC toy and it also appears to be cheaper to get than the TFCC toy is at least. I'm in mind to go for the less expensive way as I am a cheapo. It's a family trait I seemed to have inherited from my dad. We're very frugal. Heh.
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2016 @ 8:54pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:I'm in mind to go for the less expensive way as I am a cheapo. It's a family trait I seemed to have inherited from my dad. We're very frugal. Heh.
... he says as he decides to buy a children's toy imported from japan
Posted by Tyrannacon on August 3rd, 2016 @ 9:13pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I'm in mind to go for the less expensive way as I am a cheapo. It's a family trait I seemed to have inherited from my dad. We're very frugal. Heh.
... he says as he decides to buy a children's toy imported from japan
I know, right?
But seriously, the Legends toy is cheaper than the Timelines/Collector Club way and I feel it looks nicer too! Though it's preference so you can feel entirely different from me and that's fine.
Posted by Kurona on August 3rd, 2016 @ 9:44pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:Kurona wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I'm in mind to go for the less expensive way as I am a cheapo. It's a family trait I seemed to have inherited from my dad. We're very frugal. Heh.
... he says as he decides to buy a children's toy imported from japan
I know, right?
But seriously, the Legends toy is cheaper than the Timelines/Collector Club way and I feel it looks nicer too! Though it's preference so you can feel entirely different from me and that's fine.
Nah I desperately want Legends Slipstream too - as well as Nightbird. Especially Nightbird. I friggin' love that Nightbird.
Posted by fenrir72 on August 3rd, 2016 @ 10:46pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:So I have my eyes on the Legends Slipstream because I like her design and I don't have any female Decepticons. Something I plan to change here soon-ish. I know she's a retool of Windblade though. What are the thoughts and consensus on the figure? Any issues I need to be aware of? The only Takara figure I have otherwise is the Deluxe Transformers Prime/First Edition Megatron and I'm fairly happy with it.
Go for her. Only weird part is the lack of paint apps on the back of her head. Cost cutting? She doesn't have no light piping. Minute issue.
On another issue, on Ginrai aka Super Ginrai's feet. It's got foot tilts. Thats more than enough aside for the massive retool.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 4th, 2016 @ 1:16am CDT
Glad I didn't buy Hasbro's one yet. Hated the chest area on it. Takara's looks much more like G1 PM Prime right down to the Hi-Q style bit. Skipping it for Takara...
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 4th, 2016 @ 10:09pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Takara's Prime (I don't like the Ginrai name)
Speaking of names, remember how Legends use the US name in English and the Japanese name in their native script (kana)? Well, as it turns out, Skull's packaging doesn't show "Skullsmasher", but the original name "Skullcruncher" instead! Go TakaraTomy?
Posted by Kurona on August 4th, 2016 @ 10:55pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Takara's Prime (I don't like the Ginrai name)
Speaking of names, remember how Legends use the US name in English and the Japanese name in their native script (kana)? Well, as it turns out, Skull's packaging doesn't show "Skullsmasher", but the original name "Skullcruncher" instead! Go TakaraTomy?
I mean, they don't have the same problems with trademarks and stuff as Hasbro, so...
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 1:05am CDT
Posted by Va'al on August 5th, 2016 @ 4:46am CDT
Posted by Rainmaker on August 5th, 2016 @ 5:34am CDT
Soundwave and Laserbeak look way betetr
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 5:56am CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:08am CDT
Posted by Kurona on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:23am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:31am CDT
Also an image from IDW. It's unfair to not have that when the thrilling 30 and headscuplt for the Titans return is where they're based from.
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:38am CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:Apart from the blue tape deck face I much prefer Hasbros Soundwave. The unpainted shoulder details just look really bad. I will say though that I'm digging the faceplate-less brainstorm.
I totally agree, though what I preferred on takara's was the painted gun and the all that paint on the titan master. But the lack of paint on the shoulders jut makes it look so bare. I did a double take and went to check the Botcon images because I was thinking "if Takara's looks this bland, how bad was the Hasbro one?
Also I noticed that the crotch on the Hasbro version is transformed differently than on Takara's
Posted by Kurona on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:45am CDT
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Apart from the blue tape deck face I much prefer Hasbros Soundwave. The unpainted shoulder details just look really bad. I will say though that I'm digging the faceplate-less brainstorm.
I totally agree, though what I preferred on takara's was the painted gun and the all that paint on the titan master. But the lack of paint on the shoulders jut makes it look so bare. I did a double take and went to check the Botcon images because I was thinking "if Takara's looks this bland, how bad was the Hasbro one?
Also I noticed that the crotch on the Hasbro version is transformed differently than on Takara's
I can't quite see it; what's different about it? I'd look again but I'd feel uncomfortable looking at Soundwave's crotch that much.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:48am CDT
One LG39 please...'nuff said!
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 6:50am CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:09am CDT
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Apart from the blue tape deck face I much prefer Hasbros Soundwave. The unpainted shoulder details just look really bad. I will say though that I'm digging the faceplate-less brainstorm.
I totally agree, though what I preferred on takara's was the painted gun and the all that paint on the titan master. But the lack of paint on the shoulders jut makes it look so bare. I did a double take and went to check the Botcon images because I was thinking "if Takara's looks this bland, how bad was the Hasbro one?
Also I noticed that the crotch on the Hasbro version is transformed differently than on Takara's
I can't quite see it; what's different about it? I'd look again but I'd feel uncomfortable looking at Soundwave's crotch that much.
The Hasbro version above is missing the cover with the buttons on it that are shown on the Takara Tomy version. The Hasbro version does have it, it's just an issue with the one on display.
Emerje
Posted by Cyberpath on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:14am CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on August 5th, 2016 @ 7:22am CDT