Comparison Images between Transformers Leader Soundwave from Bumblebee Movie and Titans Return

Well, I can be honest when I say that I do not think I need that Soundwave at all.

Does this cost as much as the previous release? Because, if so, there is no excuse for the weapons to be omitted. That knowledge has just shifted this from a "maybe" to a definite "no". I imagine I will not be alone in this sentiment.

Lore Keeper wrote:Does this cost as much as the previous release? Because, if so, there is no excuse for the weapons to be omitted. That knowledge has just shifted this from a "maybe" to a definite "no". I imagine I will not be alone in this sentiment.

Yes, it is 50$ USD. I dont udnerstand it either since I thought it was all part of the same master mold (on the same sprues). I dont get the reason for this omission.

Quick note here.. the Bumblebee movie Soundwave DOES come with the weapons. The shoulder cannon and a silver rifle are included in a plastic bag in the right side of the package. They are both the same molds as the Titans return version, but the rifle is silver and the shoulder cannon has new red paint detail on the missile tips.

Are we sure this wasn't just Primal Prime's bad luck him not coming with weapons? He had them at SDCC and that was a finished product at the time.



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The Bumblebee Movie Soundwave DOES come with his gun and shoulder cannon. It is in a little bag that is attached to the inside of the packaging on the right side of the box. Is it possible that your's did not come with one or maybe it got thrown away?

crazyfist wrote:The Bumblebee Movie Soundwave DOES come with his gun and shoulder cannon. It is in a little bag that is attached to the inside of the packaging on the right side of the box. Is it possible that your's did not come with one or maybe it got thrown away?

Oh no! Quick, Primal Prime! Go pull that box out of the trash!

I actually do like the new player sculpt better. Though not enough to buy the toy again.

Since I never bothered to buy Soundwave (or Blaster), I went ahead and picked this one up.

https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=FIGURE-040919

Available again folks!

Juda Prime wrote:Quick note here.. the Bumblebee movie Soundwave DOES come with the weapons. The shoulder cannon and a silver rifle are included in a plastic bag in the right side of the package. They are both the same molds as the Titans return version, but the rifle is silver and the shoulder cannon has new red paint detail on the missile tips.

Easily forgotten-in-the-package parts? This pleases Dark Crumplezone.

There is another. Does anyone have Movie the Best Soundwave? Apparently, he comes with a missile for his non included gun. I never saw that missile and learnt of this way after throwing away the box.

william-james88 wrote:There is another. Does anyone have Movie the Best Soundwave? Apparently, he comes with a missile for his non included gun. I never saw that missile and learnt of this way after throwing away the box.

Weird, never heard of that. Source on that info? All the MB stuff displayed accessories pretty prominently so I'm skeptical. I can believe it, just surprised if it's true. Mine would also be in the garbage if so.

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:There is another. Does anyone have Movie the Best Soundwave? Apparently, he comes with a missile for his non included gun. I never saw that missile and learnt of this way after throwing away the box.

Weird, never heard of that. Source on that info? All the MB stuff displayed accessories pretty prominently so I'm skeptical. I can believe it, just surprised if it's true. Mine would also be in the garbage if so.

My source is TF Wiki

Released as part of TakaraTomy's Transformers Movie The Best toyline to conclude the 10th anniversary of the live-action film series, this Soundwave is an extensive redeco of his Human Alliance toy, without the Laserbeak and the Mr. Gould figure. Bizarrely, the missile from Laserbeak is included—with nothing to fire it from, it is best used as a club to beat unsuspecting Autobots... provided that you manage to fit it in Soundwave's incredibly wide grip.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Soundwave_(ROTF)#Movie_The_Best

EDIT: I checked several video reviews and none mention it. In fact, most mention the fact that he comes devoid of any accessoies. So either all of us have that missile in the garbage, or TFWiki is lieing through their teeth.

william-james88 wrote:EDIT: I checked several video reviews and none mention it. In fact, most mention the fact that he comes devoid of any accessoies. So either all of us have that missile in the garbage, or TFWiki is lieing through their teeth.

Eh, probably just wrong, mistakes happen I'm sure if we crowdsourced our database, approvals of bad info would happen sometimes as well.

william-james88 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:There is another. Does anyone have Movie the Best Soundwave? Apparently, he comes with a missile for his non included gun. I never saw that missile and learnt of this way after throwing away the box.

Weird, never heard of that. Source on that info? All the MB stuff displayed accessories pretty prominently so I'm skeptical. I can believe it, just surprised if it's true. Mine would also be in the garbage if so.

My source is TF Wiki

Released as part of TakaraTomy's Transformers Movie The Best toyline to conclude the 10th anniversary of the live-action film series, this Soundwave is an extensive redeco of his Human Alliance toy, without the Laserbeak and the Mr. Gould figure. Bizarrely, the missile from Laserbeak is included—with nothing to fire it from, it is best used as a club to beat unsuspecting Autobots... provided that you manage to fit it in Soundwave's incredibly wide grip.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Soundwave_(ROTF)#Movie_The_Best

EDIT: I checked several video reviews and none mention it. In fact, most mention the fact that he comes devoid of any accessoies. So either all of us have that missile in the garbage, or TFWiki is lieing through their teeth.

The (volunteering) editors do like to jump the accessory from time to time I've noticed. The TR Soundwave redeco missing his seems to be another...

I just checked the TakaraTomy Mall listing for the accessory count: no missile mentioned, just the figure and instructions.

I am just glad I am not missing an accessory. I personally do not care much for accessories (especially useless ones as this would have been the case) but I like knowing that the toy I bought has kept its value even if I never sell it. And losing an accessory would definitely hurt that.

william-james88 wrote:Does anyone have Movie the Best Soundwave? Apparently, he comes with a missile for his non included gun.

I do, but I don't recall missile, I'll have to check the box.

Another thing of note about the new Bee Soundwave, if it hasn't been mentioned. His visor is iridescent yellow and quite striking. I spotted some at Target on Monday and gave em a good eyeballing.

All that dark grey on the arms and thighs is quite ugly though.

Some really cool remolding and the blue is much closer to the G1 toy where the TR is almost purple in comparison. I'm good with my TR version though.

Went hunting, found the legion Prime and Bee, and the cassettes set. Sadly, no Barricade, Hot Rod, or Soundwave.

It is the opening week of the Bee! Thanks to multiple sightings from Seibertronians including TFA1024 and yours truly, we have news that pretty much every single wave 1 Bumblebee Movie figure has made its way to retail! A majority of the sightings so far have been at Target, but Walmarts have been showing up on the sightings radar as well. Among the sightings are the highly anticipated Power Charge Bumblebee (AKA the giant one) and the entirety of the Energon Ignitors classes, including the Speed, Power, Power Plus, and Nitro series figures.

With all the figures headed out to shelves, head on over to your local stores and start hunting those sweet new Movie figures!

VW Bumblebee, Shadow Raider and DotM Ratchet are all available on Amazon, just so you guys know - I snagged Bee for now. I have a discount thing going on from a code I got for moving so I was charged exactly $19.84 for him. Love little coincidences like that

VW Bumblebee
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075L ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron07-20&
Shadow Raider
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Del ... YE8KK8Y7GD?tag=seibertron07-20&
DotM Ratchet
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Del ... YE8KK8Y7GD?tag=seibertron07-20&

Appreciate you posting my pics! I just find it incredibly weird my local walmart which never gets anything surprises me with Bumblebee toys. Only downside was i couldn't buy any because i have them preordered from HTS. I hope people are abke to find toys at their local stores. Thanks again for the news credit!

The Bumblebee movie toyline truly is in full swing. Not only are all mainline toys accounted for but now we have news that even the peripheral toys are also being spotted. We have several sightings of the Bumblebee movie Cassette Pack, which is $30 at Target and includes Howlback, Titans Return Frenzy, Buzzsaw and One Step Bumblebee. This is good news for fans who only wanted to pay for the cassettes and not Bumblebee since the $30 price point truly renders the Bumblebee toy as a bonus.

The images below come from Heymickey on Twitter, who also took an image of leader class Soundwave with all his cassettes. These cassettes are Target exclusives and speaking of which, we also have a sighting of the Music FX Titan Bumblebee figure which is also a Target exclusive. Fc203 posted a video on youtube showing his finding along with the different sound effects this Bumblebee does.

Another peripheral toy sighting would be the Tiny Turbo Titans Series 4 at Meijer by xRotorstormx. This series is a tie in to the Bumblebee movie with Shatter, Dropkick and Volkswagen Bumblebee found in the wave. You can see every character included here.

And speaking of Bumblebee movie tie ins, series 3 of Studio Series which includes the Volkswagen Bumblebee figure is available on amazon.com for almost everyone to purchase.

Autobot Roadburn wrote:VW Bumblebee, Shadow Raider and DotM Ratchet are all available on Amazon, just so you guys know, priced at $19.99.

VW Bumblebee
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075L ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron07-20&
Shadow Raider
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Del ... YE8KK8Y7GD?tag=seibertron07-20&
DotM Ratchet
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Del ... YE8KK8Y7GD?tag=seibertron07-20&

Ugh. This is a line I just cannot get in to. Painful to see the designs in fact.

I bit on SS Bee. Amazon is too tempting to pass up, despite hating paying MSRP.

Snagged Bumblebee. I thought my Walmarts and Targets were crap before...now that Toys R Us is gone. All my local brick and mortars (Central Illinois) are looking more like our non-existent crappy K-Marts. I have (2) Targets and (6) Walmarts in a 25 mile radius...all of their toy sections are going downhill.

Why does Soundwave have Blaster's gun??

Now that I look closer they are using the Titans Return Blaster mold.......lazy

reluctantyouth wrote:Snagged Bumblebee. I thought my Walmarts and Targets were crap before...now that Toys R Us is gone. All my local brick and mortars (Central Illinois) are looking more like our non-existent crappy K-Marts. I have (2) Targets and (6) Walmarts in a 25 mile radius...all of their toy sections are going downhill.

That's like the identical situation where I live, literally the same number of targets and Walmart in that radius, just a lot further north then yours.

reluctantyouth wrote:Snagged Bumblebee. I thought my Walmarts and Targets were crap before...now that Toys R Us is gone. All my local brick and mortars (Central Illinois) are looking more like our non-existent crappy K-Marts. I have (2) Targets and (6) Walmarts in a 25 mile radius...all of their toy sections are going downhill.

Some of that will be seasonal. The toy departments of those stores are usually a wasteland between Easter and the build up to Christmas. Fortunately the build up to Christmas should be right around the corner. Particularly with Target, they have all moved a bunch of things to clearance aisles, and I would expect the toy departments to be re-organized in the next month and start getting filled in.

Walmart is Walmart, I'm not sure they run with any rhyme or reason there.

Used the Target DCPI code of 087-16-3093 and found and snagged my Frenzy, Howlback, extra Buzzsaw that I need to headcanon into someone else and Bee that my daughter will get to play with.

Rodimus Knight wrote:

reluctantyouth wrote:Snagged Bumblebee. I thought my Walmarts and Targets were crap before...now that Toys R Us is gone. All my local brick and mortars (Central Illinois) are looking more like our non-existent crappy K-Marts. I have (2) Targets and (6) Walmarts in a 25 mile radius...all of their toy sections are going downhill.

That's like the identical situation where I live, literally the same number of targets and Walmart in that radius, just a lot further north then yours.

Yep...Illinois distribution is so weird. I think Missouri, Iowa, Indiana, even Kentucky get better distribution here than us.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

reluctantyouth wrote:Snagged Bumblebee. I thought my Walmarts and Targets were crap before...now that Toys R Us is gone. All my local brick and mortars (Central Illinois) are looking more like our non-existent crappy K-Marts. I have (2) Targets and (6) Walmarts in a 25 mile radius...all of their toy sections are going downhill.

Some of that will be seasonal. The toy departments of those stores are usually a wasteland between Easter and the build up to Christmas. Fortunately the build up to Christmas should be right around the corner. Particularly with Target, they have all moved a bunch of things to clearance aisles, and I would expect the toy departments to be re-organized in the next month and start getting filled in.

Walmart is Walmart, I'm not sure they run with any rhyme or reason there.

I agree with you...the other problem is that Walmart does not have very many dedicated to associates. I see different people stocking all the time and they have no idea what I;m talking about when looking for new product. Both my Targets were once really really good. I do not know who is running things now, but clearance is a mess (sloppy thrown together endcaps). The shelf space in Action figures is mostly old Star Wars that will never sell. They cram all the Transformers into a very small section and half the time items are on wrong peg anyway. Target is really ticking me of more than Walmart.

Broke Down Bot wrote:Now that I look closer they are using the Titans Return Blaster mold.......lazy

Are you sure? It looks just like the soundwave mold but altered... And also wasn't the Blaster mold just a retool of soundwave anyway?

ZeroWolf wrote:

Broke Down Bot wrote:Now that I look closer they are using the Titans Return Blaster mold.......lazy

Are you sure? It looks just like the soundwave mold but altered... And also wasn't the Blaster mold just a retool of soundwave anyway?

Blaster came first.

This may be a bit off topic but,
Wasn't there a KBB MP Voyager scaled SW teased a while back? And didn't megasteel also tease a voyager sized SW? I haven't heard any news on that. Just putting this out here cause I really want a nice SW Voyager sized SW figure and the BB movie doesn't seem to be delivering even tho the SW design in the BB trailer was perfect. Seems like a missed opportunity on Hasbro's part by reissuing a figure we already got 2 years ago

ZeroWolf wrote:

Broke Down Bot wrote:Now that I look closer they are using the Titans Return Blaster mold.......lazy

Are you sure? It looks just like the soundwave mold but altered... And also wasn't the Blaster mold just a retool of soundwave anyway?

First Blaster, and then a Soundwave with all new Boombox parts, and now this one has even different boombox parts, so all 3 are entirely unique

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Broke Down Bot wrote:Now that I look closer they are using the Titans Return Blaster mold.......lazy

Are you sure? It looks just like the soundwave mold but altered... And also wasn't the Blaster mold just a retool of soundwave anyway?

First Blaster, and then a Soundwave with all new Boombox parts, and now this one has even different boombox parts, so all 3 are entirely unique

That's what I thought, so I don't get the criticism.

ZeroWolf wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Broke Down Bot wrote:Now that I look closer they are using the Titans Return Blaster mold.......lazy

Are you sure? It looks just like the soundwave mold but altered... And also wasn't the Blaster mold just a retool of soundwave anyway?

First Blaster, and then a Soundwave with all new Boombox parts, and now this one has even different boombox parts, so all 3 are entirely unique

That's what I thought, so I don't get the criticism.

Guess it's fun to complain about every single details.
Those who already have their TR Soundwave may not be interested, but many like me either skipped or never saw it in store. So it's like a second chance. Personally, I found the original TR version to be too bland. But this special one is just right. So if I see it in store, I may pounce.

For some unfathomable reason - other than money, of course - the new line of toys from the Transformers Bumblebee Movie in Italy will make its debut in participating stores of the Original Marines chain, on September 29 and October 6th - according to the official Facebook page! The lines to be shown off include the Energon Igniters and the Bumblebee mask which we have seen previously, so no big news here, other than the bizarre association with the clothing brand rather than a toy shop.

The official site for the promotion is here, and the 'Diventa un Transformers' event is part of OriginalDays, which will include demos and sketches on the days with the apparel and products tied in to the movie. Because reasons.

Common sense seems to have not just left the building it went running at full speed.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Broke Down Bot wrote:Now that I look closer they are using the Titans Return Blaster mold.......lazy

Are you sure? It looks just like the soundwave mold but altered... And also wasn't the Blaster mold just a retool of soundwave anyway?

First Blaster, and then a Soundwave with all new Boombox parts, and now this one has even different boombox parts, so all 3 are entirely unique

That's what I thought, so I don't get the criticism.

Guess it's fun to complain about every single details.
Those who already have their TR Soundwave may not be interested, but many like me either skipped or never saw it in store. So it's like a second chance. Personally, I found the original TR version to be too bland. But this special one is just right. So if I see it in store, I may pounce.

If I didn't already have the TR Soundwave I'd be all over the new Beedeco SW. Color's are better, the molding is cooler. I am not a fan of the dark grey on the arms and legs though. Just looks off.

It's a fantastic mold that looks the part and a lot of fun to play with in base mode. I'd recommend owning at least one flavor of the mold. I will say after seeing Soundwave in the new trailer, I want "that" Soundwave in addition to all the other Soundwaves. I'm in the can't have enough Soundwaves camp, BTW

I'm also hunting that Cassettebot pack because I "need" a blue Frumble.

Drove all the way out to Meijer today hoping to find SS VW Bumblebee and the Bee movie stuff.

This is what I found:

carytheone wrote:
I'm also hunting that Cassettebot pack because I "need" a blue Frumble.

Brickseek and Target DCPI code 087-16-3093. Check to see if your local target has them. Mine did, but they were in the back, so find an employee and ask them to look up the DCPI code and check stock.

That's how I got mine yesterday. I should finally have some time to open them up tonight, photos to follow.

MPM-7 listed on Amazon JP but not yet available to be shipped to the US. 10,800 Yen.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07 ... VRQENFRJN5?tag=seibertron00-22&

nycPrime wrote:MPM-7 listed on Amazon JP but not yet available to be shipped to the US. 10,800 Yen.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07 ... VRQENFRJN5?tag=seibertron00-22&

You may want to write that in the thread we made for him

viewtopic.php?t=111787&p=1985466#p1985466

Here is a quick review for what will probably be the biggest toy of Shatter, the main villain from the upcoming Bumblebee movie.

This is the Transformers Titan Changer Shatter, which is a very big simple toy with a 7 step conversion and limited articulation. It has not been reviewed yet (to my knowledge) so I wanted to show what was going on with this toy if anyone is curious when they walk by it in stores.

Honestly, for what it is I cannot see it be better. It is a fully converting toy with two very distinctive a good looking modes, bigger than a leader class toy, at a deluxe price point. That means the same resources (i.e. material) that goes into a deluxe is stretched out to give you a massive toy for younger kids to enjoy.

The box gives us what is either an early design fo Shatter, that has since been dropped, or a look at Shatter with a battle mask we have yet to see any footage of.





There is assembly required, and this is where the toy falters. The wings come seperate from the figure so you have to attach them, and they can detach during transformation.



They do provide a very impressive wing-span though. The jet mode is pretty great. It is MASSIVE! You can see it below compared to Transformers The Last Knight Voyager Megatron. It is also a very decent looking jet. While it has the same transformation as recent Windblade toys, I feel the legs are far better disguised here. The movie aesthetic gives the legs a lot of detail which blends well with the altmode. I also like how the wings have the perfect outline for the feet to fill.











Of course, this is a very simple transformer, so there is definitely (half) a robot hiding underneath there.



The best part of the robot mode is how uniform and unique it looks, especially when compared to the jet. Many Titan Changer toys suffer from having overly lanky robots and while Shatter looks rather slim, she actually looks more proportional than any other toy in the line so far. And the alt mode isn't obvious, especially since her chest hints at a car alt mode. Also, as you will see below, this toy is huge. Articulation is of course very poor, as is the case with all these toys.











So there you have it. I bought it so you don't have to. But hey, if you want a big simple toy for your kids to have fight against Bumblebee then this is the best Titan Changer toy we have ever had. Easily the most complex and most detailed, by a country mile.

I did not expect her to be that tall. Still might pick her up.

This fella looks like he could be an ANIMATED version of Optimus Primal.