Comic Page Revealed from e-Hobby Exclusive Convobat (Combobat)
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E-Hobby has released the first page from their 16 page comic book which will come with Convobat. This is in a very different style than the usual Legends comics. Some easter eggs include Megalligator's head beign surprised by the shouting of "D-6" which was the ID name on the original Beast Wars toy's box and the inclusion of familiar toys like RobotMasters Wrecker Hook.
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Posted by Sabrblade on August 15th, 2016 @ 9:35am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2016 @ 9:46am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Hailstorm and Terradive are there too. But I thought they were Movieverse guys.
Could it be that they are all repurposed as Beast Wars characters? Like Wrecker Hook would be tarantulus?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 15th, 2016 @ 9:49am CDT
There doesn't seem to be any indication of that.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Hailstorm and Terradive are there too. But I thought they were Movieverse guys.
Could it be that they are all repurposed as Beast Wars characters? Like Wrecker Hook would be tarantulus?
Wrecker Hook I can understand since he is a Japanese G1 character. I'm just a little surprised to see the other two since I thought Takara had considered their Autobot Alliance line to have been an entirely Movieverse line.
Posted by Emerje on August 15th, 2016 @ 11:44am CDT
The e-Hobby comics aren't afraid of cross dimensional travel so I would just assume they all came together from outside their own universes. By the looks of it they only threw in those other two as fodder anyway.
I wonder if this will lead to them being attacked by Grand Scourge and a team-up with Deadlock? Maybe then leading into Go Prime being saved through the Headmaster technology for the Alpha Trion repaint I've been hoping for?
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2016 @ 11:54am CDT
Emerje wrote:The Megalligator head isn't the one shouting D-6, it's Wrecker Hook shouting it at him, the head is then surprised and finally angered by it. It's really weird reading these from left to right...
Thanks I made the edit, an yeah it is weird.
Can you get back to me about the question I asked regarding the costs of forwarding and if the prices youmention include the 500 yen fee or not ?
Posted by Menace-Or? on August 15th, 2016 @ 12:06pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2016 @ 12:10pm CDT
Menace-Or? wrote:Interesting how the Titan Master's legs fold up to look like additional barrels in gun mold. Has anyone tried this??
Yeah, thats the way the instructions show it so I thought we always had to do it that way.
Posted by Emerje on August 15th, 2016 @ 12:39pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Can you get back to me about the question I asked regarding the costs of forwarding and if the prices youmention include the 500 yen fee or not ?
Sorry, I missed it. Yes, that did include the fee, that's what I meant by "after a ¥500 handling fee". Tenso estimates the shipping alone at ¥890 which should be the same at BiJ. I did just notice that Tenso has a small packet air mail service that I've never seen anyone else use that's only a little more than SAL (which I just noticed is registered so that's unusually cheap) at ¥1,100, but for half the delivery time. Starting to lean towards Tenso now. The figure is "made to order" so there's no huge rush until the deadline.
Emerje
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 15th, 2016 @ 3:18pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 15th, 2016 @ 3:53pm CDT
Another thing to note: you know how in the Headmasters anime, they shout "Head On" when connecting to their Transtector? This comic introduces another Voice Command, "Soul In" for connecting with Partner Drones it seems. Ape-X Arms' weapon mode also gets named: Hyper Sonic Plasma Cannon.
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 15th, 2016 @ 6:29pm CDT
In my own interpretation, most other clones of OP and Megs also originated from here (Nemesis Prime/Scourge, Guiltaur, Toxitron, Megastorm, Megaplex, Archforce, Destructicon Bludgeon, etc) were made (like the lab from "Alien 3"). I suspect it was one of Shockwave's cloning labs during G1, but was found and used by BW Megs during Beast Machines.
If you check CB's bio, its an amalgamation of Grey OP's bad mode, the red "Convo-Bat" and "Onyx Primal" (as he was an assassin with a stealth mode). As CB refused to be an assassin, perhaps we will get a black repaint later on? Maybe a red and blue one?
Anyway, I REALLY hope they use the Megatron mold to make Reverse Convoy, although his colours and bio are now similar to Convo-Bat...
Posted by Sabrblade on August 15th, 2016 @ 11:18pm CDT
But... Reverse Convoy wasn't a clone.primalxconvoy wrote:From the bio, it seems that Mega-Ligator and Convo-Bat (my choice of spelling) were cloned test subjects who broke out of a cloning lab (much like Reverse Convoy/Rebirth Megatron) during the G1 period. This was in order to make biometal bodies, and were prototypes to the then subsequent Maximal and Predacon bodies. It wouldn't surprise me if this was the same lab used to birth Reverse Convoy, on the planet)oid) called "Vehicon".
This is all his bio says:
A warrior born on Planet Vehicon. Also an authority on energy production. In actuality, use of the black hole link system Reverse Convoy possesses caused him to become the rebirth of original Destron Emperor of Destruction, G1 Megatron.
Where did you get that he was a clone birthed in a lab?
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 15th, 2016 @ 11:35pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:But... Reverse Convoy wasn't a clone.primalxconvoy wrote:From the bio, it seems that Mega-Ligator and Convo-Bat (my choice of spelling) were cloned test subjects who broke out of a cloning lab (much like Reverse Convoy/Rebirth Megatron) during the G1 period. This was in order to make biometal bodies, and were prototypes to the then subsequent Maximal and Predacon bodies. It wouldn't surprise me if this was the same lab used to birth Reverse Convoy, on the planet(oid) called "Vehicon".
This is all his bio says:A warrior born on Planet Vehicon. Also an authority on energy production. In actuality, use of the black hole link system Reverse Convoy possesses caused him to become the rebirth of original Destron Emperor of Destruction, G1 Megatron.
Where did you get that he was a clone birthed in a lab?
1/ Here is a translated bio of Convo-Bat from Hobby Link Japan:
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This awesome figure, exclusively offered by E-Hobby, commemorates the 20th anniversary of "Beast Wars"! A clone of Optimus Prime (a.k.a. Convoy), the bat-winged Combobat was the result of an attempt to introduce organic elements to Transformers. With his silent flight ability, Combobat was engineered to be an ideal assassin, but he would prefer a different path. He comes with his Headmaster Megalligator, two energy swords, and the Ape-X Arms drone. A 16-page comic book is also included!
(Source: - https://hlj.com/product/TKTE-0044-TF?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post )
2/ Yes, officially, Reverse Convoy is not a clone. In MY interpretation, he is. I inferred the "planet Vehicon" as "Vehicon planet", in the sense that it was rediscovered and reclaimed by Megatron's Vehicons, who restarted the cloning experiments using G1 OP and Megs as their templates. In my interpretation, Reverse Convoy (or whichever clones were created around that time) were engineered alongside other clones or hybrids of long-dead "leaders", in order to create the perfect "generals" for Megatron's Vehicon troops/drones. TFwiki, at the time I came up with that theory, did not have an "ask Vector Prime: section on the character, so I inferred any Tf "born" on a Vehicon planet to be created by Megatron. This is also where megatron would have created the cloned/hybrid "Optimal Optimus" form for himself (or developed on Cybertron via tech taken from the planet).
Regardless, I don't think the toy will come out, as it is too similar to Convo-Bat (Op/Prime headmasters, and similar colours). In this case, I REALLY hope I am wrong, though. I LOVE Reverse Convoy almost as much as I love Primal Prime...
- http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Reverse_Convoy
Posted by Sabrblade on August 16th, 2016 @ 12:02am CDT
I was talking about Reverse Convoy.primalxconvoy wrote:1/ Here is a translated bio of Convo-Bat from Hobby Link Japan:
I've already seen Convobat's bio (I'm the one who posted it here, even):
In a sense, Convobat is "Convoy changed his form in preparation for aerial combat. Unfurling his elastic bat wings, he can fly completely silently, with hovering capabilities. With Convoy's strategic and commanding abilities, he is easily up to the task of scouting without being spotted by enemies." But he is a clone of Convoy; to introduce the traits of organic lifeforms to the next generation of Transformers, Straxus has performed experiments to create the latest hybrid TFs.
With bat-like wings, he can fly and hover in silence, which made him perfect to train as an assassin robot. He rebels from his chosen career and plots to escape. He thinks that Megaligator, from the same stock of experiments and circumstances as him, is his only friend. To compensate for his lack of firepower, his partner drone Ape-X Arms was created.
Ah, headcanon. Got it.primalxconvoy wrote:2/ Yes, officially, Reverse Convoy is not a clone. In MY interpretation, he is.
Thought you were speaking of something from Takara before.
Well, even before the AVP backstory was written, the RobotMasters fiction itself showed Megatron possessing Reverse Convoy's body to impersonate its original owner from the Planet Vehicon so as to infiltrate the Autobots and gain their trust before stabbing them in the back.primalxconvoy wrote:TFwiki, at the time I came up with that theory, did not have an "ask Vector Prime: section on the character, so I inferred any Tf "born" on a Vehicon planet to be created by Megatron.
Though, looking at the Wiki page, it seems to be missing Reverse Convoy's RobotMasters cartoon info. Odd.
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 16th, 2016 @ 12:09am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I was talking about Reverse Convoy.primalxconvoy wrote:1/ Here is a translated bio of Convo-Bat from Hobby Link Japan:
I've already seen Convobat's bio (I'm the one who posted it here, even):In a sense, Convobat is "Convoy changed his form in preparation for aerial combat. Unfurling his elastic bat wings, he can fly completely silently, with hovering capabilities. With Convoy's strategic and commanding abilities, he is easily up to the task of scouting without being spotted by enemies." But he is a clone of Convoy; to introduce the traits of organic lifeforms to the next generation of Transformers, Straxus has performed experiments to create the latest hybrid TFs.
With bat-like wings, he can fly and hover in silence, which made him perfect to train as an assassin robot. He rebels from his chosen career and plots to escape. He thinks that Megaligator, from the same stock of experiments and circumstances as him, is his only friend. To compensate for his lack of firepower, his partner drone Ape-X Arms was created.Ah, headcanon. Got it.primalxconvoy wrote:2/ Yes, officially, Reverse Convoy is not a clone. In MY interpretation, he is.
Thought you were speaking of something from Takara before.Well, even before the AVP backstory was written, the RobotMasters fiction itself showed Megatron possessing Reverse Convoy's body to impersonate its original owner from the Planet Vehicon so as to infiltrate the Autobots and gain their trust before stabbing them in the back.primalxconvoy wrote:TFwiki, at the time I came up with that theory, did not have an "ask Vector Prime: section on the character, so I inferred any Tf "born" on a Vehicon planet to be created by Megatron.
Though, looking at the Wiki page, it seems to be missing Reverse Convoy's RobotMasters cartoon info. Odd.
I already knew about the Robotmasters bio. I just combined a mad scientist tinkering with power to someone being experimented upon BY a mad scientist.
Slightly related, but off-topic, I inferred that instead of Megatron getting his green G2 tank mode, it was given to two clones, Megastorm, and Archforce; two brothers who would later become the Predacons Gigastorm and Galvatron respectively.
Anyway, I have preordered Convo-Bat and am looking for a spare, headless, cheap unboxed (although a cheap full version is fine) Skullcruncher to repaint into Mega-Ligator now.
Posted by RAR on August 16th, 2016 @ 8:03am CDT
The Bat and Croc these days I guess could be some sort of clone - but they could also be from a rather interesting alternative Universe where for some reason Transformers were forced to adopt Beast Modes after G2.
There is a lot to discuss there though - if there is interest in the topic it might warrant it's own thread called something like "The organic Influence on Transformers".
Posted by Sabrblade on August 16th, 2016 @ 8:15am CDT
"Rebirth Megatron" was the moniker Megatron assumed while possessing Reverse Convoy's body, yes, but that was because Megatron had been lost in some previous incident and his return in Reverse Convoy's body was like his having been reborn, metaphorically-speaking. Afterward, he'd get released from his possession of Reverse Convoy and return to his old body just in time to partake in events that would lead up to Transformers: The Movie. His time as Rebirth Megatron occurred in 2004-2005 during the post-season 2/pre-movie era of the Japanese G1 cartoon timeline (decades before G2 would occur in the late 2030s).RAR wrote:If I recall correctly Reverse Convoy is also called "Rebirth Megatron" so that is who I see him as myself as a post G2 Megatron.
We'll just have to wait and see what the full comic says.RAR wrote:The Bat and Croc these days I guess could be some sort of clone - but they could also be from a rather interesting alternative Universe where for some reason Transformers were forced to adopt Beast Modes after G2.
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 16th, 2016 @ 8:23am CDT
RAR wrote:If I recall correctly Reverse Convoy is also called "Rebirth Megatron" so that is who I see him as myself as a post G2 Megatron.
The Bat and Croc these days I guess could be some sort of clone - but they could also be from a rather interesting alternative Universe where for some reason Transformers were forced to adopt Beast Modes after G2.
There is a lot to discuss there though - if there is interest in the topic it might warrant it's own thread called something like "The organic Influence on Transformers".
If this is the G1 universe, then these would be clones created around the time of Headmaster Juniors, like Fangry, and Pretenders, as both incorporated biometal in their designs. As far as I can recall, "beast modes" are a combination of pretender and other biometal forms (Fangry et al) for the physical frms, with the synapses linkeing the mechanical to the cybernetic/biological derived from Nebulan Head/Power/Targetmaster tech (with those synapses derived from combiner synapses). I think some of this info was taken from the Beast Wars or G1 "MTMTE" sourcebooks?
If not, then it's all in my head.
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on August 18th, 2016 @ 10:05am CDT
Posted by RAR on August 18th, 2016 @ 11:02am CDT
Otherwise When I talk about a Post G2 Megatron I'm not really talking about some hypothetical events that may or may not have happened after the cartoon that might got alluded to in some Japanese Comic or other - rather the Western Marvel Comic events and the toyline. That certainly didn't take place in 2030.
Besides Transformers gets a bit mind-bending if you try to shoe horn in everything some where like the endless versions of Nemesis Prime / Scourge or even different incarnations of Bludgeon.
I was talking about G2 in a 1990's sense anyway. The other reason I suggested that was his body type is pretty much the same as the G2 Tank Megatron too - all be a smaller one.
[Boy being a Transformers fan is so like being a Star Trek fan sometimes - in that you are having to watch people tie themselves in knots to fit things in a timeline in both franchises]
Posted by Sabrblade on August 18th, 2016 @ 5:48pm CDT
Japanese G-2 (the pack-in manga and story pages) takes place in the late 2030s of the Japanese G1 cartoon timeline. That's what I was referring to.RAR wrote:The only vaguely G2 like events I know of would be something like a Botcon comic or the Historical references to it hinted at buy those making Beast Wars.
Otherwise When I talk about a Post G2 Megatron I'm not really talking about some hypothetical events that may or may not have happened after the cartoon that might got alluded to in some Japanese Comic or other - rather the Western Marvel Comic events and the toyline. That certainly didn't take place in 2030.
Besides Transformers gets a bit mind-bending if you try to shoe horn in everything some where like the endless versions of Nemesis Prime / Scourge or even different incarnations of Bludgeon.
I was talking about G2 in a 1990's sense anyway. The other reason I suggested that was his body type is pretty much the same as the G2 Tank Megatron too - all be a smaller one.
[Boy being a Transformers fan is so like being a Star Trek fan sometimes - in that you are having to watch people tie themselves in knots to fit things in a timeline in both franchises]
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 18th, 2016 @ 9:54pm CDT
RAR wrote:
Besides Transformers gets a bit mind-bending if you try to shoe horn in everything some where like the endless versions of Nemesis Prime / Scourge or even different incarnations of Bludgeon.
I wrote a theory about Nemesis Prime, which basically said that he is an avatar, with every universe, by Unicron's will, having a host body made for him (be it Scourge, an Elderoid, Black Convoy, etc). Once posessed or reformatted, it becomes Nemesis Prime, reborn.
As for Bludgeon, the RID Destructicon version was seen, by me, as another clone in the facility that birthed Convo-Bat.
For me, I believe that almost eveything CAN be included in one universe, one way or another.
Posted by Va'al on August 30th, 2016 @ 4:21pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 30th, 2016 @ 4:36pm CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 30th, 2016 @ 4:39pm CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:After the first page we saw here, for the upcoming eHobby exclusive Combobat (Convobat) set - a repaint of Titans Return Mindwipe, Titan Master Infinitus, Prime Wheeljack's swords and the little tank that accompanies Legeds Hardhead, plus Nucleon to combine with Skullcruncher for a Megalligator surrogate - we have a second page from the comic! Mirrored below, we see Wrecker Hook again, along with the Megalligator head and ..Generations Straxus? Check it out, and let us know what you think.
Wrecker Hook has been repurposed as "Tarantulas". Look at his head. The same goes for the other characters in these two pages so far (although I can't remember which BW characters they are).
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2016 @ 4:46pm CDT
No he hasn't. Convobat calls him by name in that upper-rightmost panel: レッカーフック = "Rekkā Hukku" = "Wrecker Hook".primalxconvoy wrote:Wrecker Hook has been repurposed as "Tarantulas". Look at his head.
And Wrecker Hook already had those little circles on his forehead anyway:
Posted by Terrsolpix on August 30th, 2016 @ 4:47pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2016 @ 5:14pm CDT
Yes. Its name is Ape × Arms.Terrsolpix wrote:Doesn't the figure come with a re-deco of Apeface's vehicle?
Posted by Overcracker on August 30th, 2016 @ 5:25pm CDT
Terrsolpix wrote:Doesn't the figure come with a re-deco of Apeface's vehicle?
Yes, in Optimal Optimus colors.
Posted by Terrsolpix on August 30th, 2016 @ 5:37pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on August 30th, 2016 @ 5:42pm CDT
Terrsolpix wrote:Not sure how to reply, but why does the article above say it comes with a tank?
Because Va'al got things mixed up. Sigh.
Fixed, thanks!
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2016 @ 5:44pm CDT
It came with Weirdwolf, though (and originally with Titans Return Apeface).Dr Va'al wrote:Terrsolpix wrote:Not sure how to reply, but why does the article above say it comes with a tank?
Because Va'al got things mixed up. Sigh.
Fixed, thanks!
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on August 30th, 2016 @ 9:45pm CDT
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on August 31st, 2016 @ 7:15pm CDT
Nik Hero wrote:Are we going to get this whole 16 page comic weekly, one page at a time?
I'd love it if we did.
Also, Convobat looks amazing.
Posted by Ultra Mad on August 31st, 2016 @ 7:18pm CDT
Drift082111 wrote:Nik Hero wrote:Are we going to get this whole 16 page comic weekly, one page at a time?
I'd love it if we did.
Also, Convobat looks amazing.
I agree. I can't remember being so excited for a figure in the past year
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on August 31st, 2016 @ 7:50pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 1st, 2016 @ 9:34am CDT
Posted by Va'al on September 1st, 2016 @ 9:46am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 1st, 2016 @ 9:58am CDT
It looks to me like BM Megatron's control harness was originally a restraining harness Straxus used to keep Megalligator immobile while locked up.
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on September 1st, 2016 @ 10:44am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 1st, 2016 @ 1:46pm CDT
Posted by Windsweeper on September 2nd, 2016 @ 4:13am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 2nd, 2016 @ 7:43am CDT
Posted by Va'al on September 2nd, 2016 @ 8:23am CDT
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on September 2nd, 2016 @ 8:49am CDT
Posted by Microraptor on September 2nd, 2016 @ 8:54am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 2nd, 2016 @ 9:56am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 2nd, 2016 @ 2:03pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Megaligator finally found himself a body to attach to, and some mech tech weapons to boot. Nice!
I believe it's more of a flashback of what exactly happened before the very first page. At least we know why we never got a body for Megsie: it was blown to bits by Straxus, leaving only his head. And Darkmount as the location for his head experimentation...
Is it me, or is the story being told Memento style
Posted by Deadput on September 2nd, 2016 @ 3:28pm CDT
Microraptor wrote:DOTM Sideswipe's mechtech weapon! I loved that thing!
It really is one of the best weapon accessories for transformers figs no matter who you put it on it makes them look bad ass.
Posted by primalxconvoy on September 2nd, 2016 @ 6:09pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Megaligator finally found himself a body to attach to, and some mech tech weapons to boot. Nice!