Combiner Wars Voyager Class Video Reviews

What if they made a "leader class" Ultra Megnus out the Motor Master/Optimus Prime mold? It could come with a trailer that separates into 4 pieces that combine with the torso mode. Oh wait, isn't there already a leader class Ultra Megnus rumor?

Bumblebee2008 from Buckinghamshire, England has shown a pic of Silverbolt with his limbs @TFW

Prime looks HUGE compared to the classics version. This pleases me

EDIT: Silverbolt's reviewer's reaction to the ratchet joints

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Prowl=Deadend or streetwise recolor/tool
Sunstreaker=breakdown recolor/tool
Ironhide=first aid retool or the new truck Stunticon whose replacing wild rider
Mirage=drag strip retool

Calling it

And I'm calling store exclusives at that.

The FOC Wreckers were recolors with retools and those were not store exclusives.

Hoping they are Walmart store exclusives. Just so they don't sit on pegs at all retail stores and prevent new CW sculpts from getting stocked everywhere.

According to Venksta, Rook is a search-and-rescue SUV, and the "DPT Viper" is a redeco/remold of Legends Powerglide in Cobra-inspired colors.

Lockdownhunter wrote:For me,Abominus,Predaking,Bruticus and Computron

If I had to pick a dream team of 16 new CW deluxes and 4 new CW Voyagers. It would be Predaking, Superion, Computron and 1985 Bruticus.

Normally I'd pick Menasor and Devastator but I already have FP Menasor and MT Green Giant.
Yes I'm aware there will be a CW Menasor. Also read the rumors of a CW Titan class Devastator. Even though I have the 3rd party toys, Still plan to buy the HasTak CW versions. due to the low USA retail toy prices.

If HasTak ever decides to recolor the FOC Combaticons in 1985 toy colors. I'll buy them and won't have a need for CW Combaticons. If HasTak increased the TFP Terrorcons to all deluxe toys that formed a 10 to 12 inch Abonimus, I Won't need a CW Abonimus.

Sabrblade wrote:...and the "DPT Viper" is a redeco/remold of Legends Powerglide in Cobra-inspired colors.

Oh Hasbro, you crazy kids and your GI Joe homages.

What little doubt I had of Silverbolt has completely been erased. It's going to be a very, very, very long wait to get my grubby little hands on him, the Aerialbots, and the Stunticons.

I like Optimus Prime much more than when he was first announced, but if I'm to get this, it won't be as Optimus Prime. Though I do wish the slots for the tabs on those panels on his legs that give him the appearance of beef were located where it would have the legs appear closer to the crotch (if that makes any sense). It would look more streamlined and less squat.

That said, this is the one time I actually want a cheeky Ultra Magnus redeco of this fella. That, or throw some black on him, darken the red and blue, and call it an update to Energon Optimus Prime. I've already got a Classics Optimus, so me getting this guy as is would be redundant for me.

Mindmaster wrote:I like Optimus Prime much more than when he was first announced, but if I'm to get this, it won't be as Optimus Prime.

You could use him for Ginrai, or rename him "Grand Convoy" in honor of the Energon guy ('specially with that homage in his chest).

Tsutsukakushi wrote: ...Also read the rumors of a CW Titan class Devastator. Even though I have the 3rd party toys, Still plan to buy the HasTak CW versions. due to the low USA retail toy prices.


...If HasTak increased the TFP Terrorcons to all deluxe toys that formed a 10 to 12 inch Abonimus, I Won't need a CW Abonimus.

If we believe the insane speculation and poorly re-colored/edited cg pics, then EVERY combiner besides the Aerialbots will have a main body based on the Prime/Motor-Master mold, including Prowl and his team and that combination wouldn't make for a Titan class figure. Certainly not with Prowl as a proper head even with 5 Constructicons making the body parts, which the speculation pics don't even allow for. I'm calling complete and total b.s. on all of those rumors. Hasbro JUST pulled off something cool here being in collaboration with IDW and making cool toys that coincide with the upcoming comic arc (or vice-versa) and I would hope and pray that they aren't actually stupid enough to reuse a mold that many times for the core gimmick of this new line. That's marketing suicide and I'll straight up tell them to take all their CW figures and shove them up their *** right now if that's what they are going to do.
I wan't that Voyager Prime in the worst way right now and it's going to suck if, 6 months from now, I see it... IN THE WORST WAY: recolored 7 different times with a cheaply re-tooled head each time.

Now as for those Terrorcons you mentioned, I'm right there with you. It's what they should have done during the TFP line and it would have been so easy for them to do it. They pulled it off, poorly, with the Legends class figures so I don't see why they couldn't have done it with the Deluxe class. They still have the molds so I won't consider it cheating if they go back and re-tool those molds and re-release the figures instead of giving us new molds of the figures. I'd be quite happy with that.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:I like Optimus Prime much more than when he was first announced, but if I'm to get this, it won't be as Optimus Prime.

You could use him for Ginrai, or rename him "Grand Convoy" in honor of the Energon guy ('specially with that homage in his chest).

DAMMIT, DON'T TELL ME THAT! It'll give me an excuse!

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:I like Optimus Prime much more than when he was first announced, but if I'm to get this, it won't be as Optimus Prime.

You could use him for Ginrai, or rename him "Grand Convoy" in honor of the Energon guy ('specially with that homage in his chest).

DAMMIT, DON'T TELL ME THAT! It'll give me an excuse!

The toy's combiner chest actually does appear to be a dual homage to both of those guys:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:I like Optimus Prime much more than when he was first announced, but if I'm to get this, it won't be as Optimus Prime.

You could use him for Ginrai, or rename him "Grand Convoy" in honor of the Energon guy ('specially with that homage in his chest).

DAMMIT, DON'T TELL ME THAT! It'll give me an excuse!

The toy's combiner chest actually does appear to be a dual homage to both of those guys:

Not to mention that the regular robot mode head looks like Ginrai, while the combined mode head looks like Energon Optimus Prime's combined mode head.

Uh... I mean, I don't need it!

Watch Takara take advantage of the dual-homage by coloring the entire combiner chest, both inside and out, in solid silver chrome.

Sabrblade wrote:Watch Takara take advantage of the dual-homage by coloring the entire combiner chest, both inside and out, in solid silver chrome.

That, I'd go for.

I'm just happy that the recent in-hand combined image shows Skydive with his legs collapsed. Gets rid of the one major issue I had with these.

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:...and the "DPT Viper" is a redeco/remold of Legends Powerglide in Cobra-inspired colors.

Oh Hasbro, you crazy kids and your GI Joe homages.

Someone did mention that a few pages back and it was completely ignored

Va'al wrote:I may be very interested in the Deluxe Prowl, if it does what I want it to do.

Everything else, while potentially pretty, I'm really not that fussed about.

Hahaha, it is very easy to read the mind of this certain comic book fan. But wouldnt he have to be Voyager size for that, if the rumour circulating is correct?

william-james88 wrote:

Va'al wrote:I may be very interested in the Deluxe Prowl, if it does what I want it to do.

Everything else, while potentially pretty, I'm really not that fussed about.

Hahaha, it is very easy to read the mind of this certain comic book fan. But wouldnt he have to be Voyager size for that, if the rumour circulating is correct?

Yea, especially if the Titan Class Devastator 6-figure voyager gift set rumor is true...

Man prowl and the like better not be wal-mart exclusives, or else we can't we preorder from BBTS.

Folks tell me I'm wrong but I got a bad feeling. The last time a new line first appeared overseas was Prime First Editions, if you remember they then showed up in Canada which is around the time we found out the wave 2 FE figures (Cliffjumper) wouldn't be released in the US. Is it possible that there's little to no interest in CW from US retailers and this line will end up an overseas exclusive?

Autobot cars as stunticon repaints?

Its like the opposite from that episode "Masquerade".

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Masquerade

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Folks tell me I'm wrong but I got a bad feeling. The last time a new line first appeared overseas was Prime First Editions, if you remember they then showed up in Canada which is around the time we found out the wave 2 FE figures (Cliffjumper) wouldn't be released in the US. Is it possible that there's little to no interest in CW from US retailers and this line will end up an overseas exclusive?

Mmm I doubt that will happen. The FE figures were both semi-limited and semi-exclusive. CW is mainline through and through.

Found some video-reviews of the limbs from Nicholas'FigureReviews.

Fellow Seibertronian xMXUx has come across some video looks at the first wave of Transformers Generations Combiner Wars deluxe figures - aka the limbs for Superion minus one plus Dragstrip! We've seen images for the figures before, but now you take a gander at their transformation too, even though Skydive seems to have eluded the reviewer now updated with Skydive too! Check them out mirrored below.

Where these at? Have any UK peeps found them yet?

crap. id have posted these videos but i thought they were already up.

in general, im liking everything coming from CW. but im REALLY liking dragstrip.

I have to admit, Drag Strip, Firefly, and Alpha Bravo have very simple, but interesting transformations. However, I wished they could have more paint applications. Nothing Takara can't fix!

hinomars19 wrote:Where these at? Have any UK peeps found them yet?

Yeah some Smyth's stores have stocked the deluxes. I'm not allowed to spend anymore money on TFs this year though due to Christmas and my daughter's birthday imminent.

Searchlight wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:Where these at? Have any UK peeps found them yet?

Yeah some Smyth's stores have stocked the deluxes. I'm not allowed to spend anymore money on TFs this year though due to Christmas and my daughter's birthday imminent.

Yeah, bad time of year for us! Hope your daughter has a great birthday though

I'll check my local one again soon. Though I fear the money I may spend if I find them

After watching the reviews, I'm even more happy with the way these are shaping up.
Really dig the universal hand/feet pieces,

so ypu, this review is yup, not too bad yup, he just says yup yup, every three seconds yup, its really annoying yup.

Damn these guys are looking good, loving the leg transformations on the Aerialbots, very clever,

Updated news post with Skydive review.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ive/31803/

shajaki wrote:crap. id have posted these videos but i thought they were already up.

in general, im liking everything coming from CW. but im REALLY liking dragstrip.

That head sculpt...

I"m starting to get really impatient... RK should be shipping my order out some time today... Just hope I get them before the the weekend.

Oh mercy. CW Voyagers are no ordinary Voyagers, size-wise. They're Giga-Con sized!

https://twitter.com/Waspshot23/status/544251539339378688/photo/1

Sabrblade wrote:Oh mercy. CW Voyagers are no ordinary Voyagers, size-wise. They're Giga-Con sized!

https://twitter.com/Waspshot23/status/544251539339378688/photo/1

Oh, look: a size-comparison with a figure I actually have!

Ya know if Hasbro is gonna make a leader Thundercracker... I sure would have liked to have seen a character like leader Broadside instead. I guess they just want to loose money by rehashing old characters.

Chronchitisbot wrote:Ya know if Hasbro is gonna make a leader Thundercracker... I sure would have liked to have seen a character like leader Broadside instead. I guess they just want to loose money by rehashing old characters.

They are saving a bunch of money by not having to design a new mold.

still hate combine prime figure loks strange in truck mode to bulky in mode, I fast forward past articulation see one voyager figure with articulation see them all do same thing jetfire looks better

Well, looks like I was wrong about RK shipping today... something just arrived at the post office....



Interestingly, the legends packaging is now a lot smaller without the extra target master



That Tailgate is an "extra" - will probably give to my gf's nephew for Christmas

Now to open these puppies up and combine

Yup. These have me sold. Yup. I really appreciate those reviews. Yup, they are simple but good looking, and I love the articulation. Yup, I will be getting these.

Yup.

prjkt wrote:Now to open these puppies up and combine

So jelly.

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh mercy. CW Voyagers are no ordinary Voyagers, size-wise. They're Giga-Con sized!

https://twitter.com/Waspshot23/status/544251539339378688/photo/1

Oh, look: a size-comparison with a figure I actually have!

Wait a sec!

Square shoulders, rectangular torsos, rib caged abs, blocky lower arms, long boxy lower legs, tiny upper limbs... They're practically brothers!

Ok this will be a text-only quick review for now, will post some pics/comparisons later today/tonight.

Legends

Windcharger - Repaint of the recent Tailgate. Not sure if I'll keep this one as I already have the United version of the RTS mould. Will remain unopened for now.

Thundercracker - Repaint of Starscream, or Acid Storm (which I do have). Again, not sure if I'll open this one as I already have the deluxe Asia Excl. Generations version, and already have this mould in acid storm. Will remain unopened for now.

Bombshell - Awesome little bug. His purple is a deeper, more metallic colour than Shrapnel. Good and bad, as it looks better, but doesn't quite fit in with Shrapnel (or is it Skrapnel?) His lack of a weapon is not really a problem with the moulded cannons in front of his hands (which can still hold 5mm weapons)

Powerglide - Not as impressed as I thought I would be, GREAT design, but the plastic quality is lacking a little - has trouble holding together in alt mode. Sort of hampered by lack of a weapon, but then I guess he can just point his fists at the sky and launch missiles from the underside of his arm. Again his own targetmaster mode is slightly hampered by plastic quality.

Deluxes
These guys are big. Gone are the FOC and post FOC midget characters (Trailcutter has another reason to drink now) - they're more in line with the early Generations/RTS lines, and Universe (think Drift/Blurr, Jazz and Sunstreaker/Sideswipe.) Not as complex in transformation (understandably so) but still great representations of the characters.

Dragstip - Big, chunky, articulated and an awesome face. As expected, works really well as either a foot or an arm, but it took me a while to figure out why his leg mode was a centimetre or so longer than everyone elses, the rear of the car actually folds up in front, shortening him a little. No more lopsided gestalt!

Alpha Bravo - Possibly my favourite design of this wave - I like the way the helicopter works, and am getting a real Astrotrain vibe from his legs. On his legs, the plastic doesn't feel as solid as the other figures, but I have no fear of it breaking. His arms stick out a lot, the missiles help, hide his hands, but still kind of obvious. His rotors aren't really held in place by anything, other than his tail fins, and will often slip over the top.

Firefly - His colours make me think Ratchet decided to change jobs, but I've always liked red. So I'ts cool. In all modes (other than robot) his arms are pretty conspicuous, if only there was a way to fold them up into the torso ala Classics Seekers, but with the combination joint I can see why they didn't. Leg transformation is really cool, makes a really solid looking jet.

Skydive - Dark colours - this jet means business. Transformation is almost identical to Firefly, except that you move his arms/wings further down his torso, streamlining the jet and helps hide his hands underneath the tail fins. Vertical tailfins and nosecone are soft rubber.

Voyagers
Again, these guys are big.

Optimus (Ultra?) Prime - Big. Really Big. It's like Optimus decided to take the Cybertronian form of steroids in the lead up to festival season to show off. Alt mode is a really solid truck, though the contrast between silver paint and grey plastic at the front is jarring.
Torso mode is a little bit of a let down to me. For starts his Ultra Prime head is floppy. Really floppy. I dismantled the head and found quite a lot of stress marks, so in the meantime I've covered the ball with some Blu-tac, and it's a fair bit better. His legs are a bit weird in this mode too, I'm not sure if the ratchets on his legs are aligned with each other. Still a better figure than some I've got in my collection, but the weakest of the wave IMO - hopefully Motormaster is an improvement.

Silverbolt - This guy is great. Like a new version of the only Aerialbot I had as a kid. No real complaints I have based on this price here, other than the obvious undercarriage in alt mode. He is a literal d*ckhead in torso mode though, and this is one photo I WILL take, just because. The whole conversion of legs to chest really breaks up his torso, and it really changes his profile - doesn't look like Silverbolt anymore. The soft rubber antennae are annoying, as they don't go all the way into place, but stick out backwards at a 30-40° angle.


That's about it for now, as mentioned before, will make another post with pics, and further thoughts later on.

Sabrblade wrote:
Square shoulders, rectangular torsos, rib caged abs, blocky lower arms, long boxy lower legs, tiny upper limbs... They're practically brothers!

:lol:
I thought the same thing.

megatronus wrote:So jelly.

You and me both!

prjkt wrote:Deluxes
These guys are big. Gone are the FOC and post FOC midget characters (Trailcutter has another reason to drink now) - they're more in line with the early Generations/RTS lines, and Universe (think Drift/Blurr, Jazz and Sunstreaker/Sideswipe.) Not as complex in transformation (understandably so) but still great representations of the characters.

Voyagers
Again, these guys are big.

Thanks so much for this, after seeing the vid reviews I was close to cancelling my pre-orders, going to keep em now.

as promised, here are some comparison shots (and a d*ckhead)

various primes:

Yeah, CW Prime is big

CW Prime, CW SIlverbolt and Gen Blitzwing

Hard to show in a photo, but Silverbolt feels a lot more solid than Blitzwing, there's just more plastic to him


Henkei Lambor, CW Dragstrip, Gen Crosscut, United Rodimus

Again hard to show, but Dragstrip is solid, feels more like Sideswipe in mass than Crosscut.

United Starscream, CW Skydive, Gen Windblade, Gen Sky Shadow

Taller and more articulated than a seeker, far more solid than Windblade (fitting though) and a little more solid than the Skyshadow/Thunderwing mould.

Shrapnel & Bombshell

Again, even in the legends class, the build quality seems to be improving, and you can see what I mean about the colour difference.

FOC Bruticus, CW Superion

No contest here, Bruticus may be almost as tall, but there's no mass to him at all, having such a solid voyager class torso really makes a difference.

Maketoys Green Giant, CW Superion

Ok, in weight terms, Green Giant wins here. But he's what, $400 US vs the roughy $100 price of Superion. I don't really have a problem here. Height-wise they're a pretty good match, Superior being just a little taller.

Hope you enjoy these guys, if you want any shots of alt-mode comparisons, that may have to wait until later tonight/tomorrow - there's dinner to be cooked/eaten and TV to be watched

prjkt wrote:as promised, here are some comparison shots (and a d*ckhead)

various primes:

Yeah, CW Prime is big

CW Prime, CW SIlverbolt and Gen Blitzwing

Hard to show in a photo, but Silverbolt feels a lot more solid than Blitzwing, there's just more plastic to him


Henkei Lambor, CW Dragstrip, Gen Crosscut, United Rodimus

Again hard to show, but Dragstrip is solid, feels more like Sideswipe in mass than Crosscut.

United Starscream, CW Skydive, Gen Windblade, Gen Sky Shadow

Taller and more articulated than a seeker, far more solid than Windblade (fitting though) and a little more solid than the Skyshadow/Thunderwing mould.

Shrapnel & Bombshell

Again, even in the legends class, the build quality seems to be improving, and you can see what I mean about the colour difference.

FOC Bruticus, CW Superion

No contest here, Bruticus may be almost as tall, but there's no mass to him at all, having such a solid voyager class torso really makes a difference.

Maketoys Green Giant, CW Superion

Ok, in weight terms, Green Giant wins here. But he's what, $400 US vs the roughy $100 price of Superion. I don't really have a problem here. Height-wise they're a pretty good match, Superior being just a little taller.

Hope you enjoy these guys, if you want any shots of alt-mode comparisons, that may have to wait until later tonight/tomorrow - there's dinner to be cooked/eaten and TV to be watched

Thanks for these man, just what I needed, looks like my rotf Superion is heading to an auction site near you!

Thanks for the pics! These are great

I have just one photo request:

prjkt wrote:Maketoys Green Giant, CW Superion

Ok, in weight terms, Green Giant wins here. But he's what, $400 US vs the roughy $100 price of Superion. I don't really have a problem here. Height-wise they're a pretty good match, Superior being just a little taller.

Can you snap another pic of Superion next to Giant, but with Giant either standing straight, or with Superion rocking the 'A' stance? Just want to see how they compare when they're in the same standing position (like you have with FOC Bruticus).

Thanks!