Combiner Wars Hotspot found at Canadian retail

I' excited for rumble. My collection needs more red in it.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:And as for Wheelie, they better do something awesome with him. The GDO Wheelie is hella cool, and honestly one of my favorite Transformers altogether. I know it doesn't make ANY sense for him to have the Jazz mold, but for some reason, that figure is just rad.

Walky likes him because he loves that mold and he loves that shade of orange. Maybe you're the same?

Kinda sad to hear about all the GDO stuff getting redundified so soon. They seemed like great options at the time, but then Hasbro turns around and makes PROPER versions of everybody and it's kind of like "Well what was the point of making those redecos?" Ah hindsight.

That Bot wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:And as for Wheelie, they better do something awesome with him. The GDO Wheelie is hella cool, and honestly one of my favorite Transformers altogether. I know it doesn't make ANY sense for him to have the Jazz mold, but for some reason, that figure is just rad.

Walky likes him because he loves that mold and he loves that shade of orange. Maybe you're the same?

Kinda sad to hear about all the GDO stuff getting redundified so soon. They seemed like great options at the time, but then Hasbro turns around and makes PROPER versions of everybody and it's kind of like "Well what was the point of making those redecos?" Ah hindsight.

My GDO Hotspot will not be obsolete. Ever.

RhA wrote:My GDO Hotspot will not be obsolete. Ever.

I do hear that it's an excellent mold. I hope to own it one day, whether as Hot Spot or someone else. It could make a great pre-Defensor version of the character. But boy, the CW Hot Spot mold seems pretty great as well.

durroth wrote:I' excited for rumble. My collection needs more red in it.

Although, actually, you're probably right... Obviously, the G1 toy was red, and it looks like the majority of merchandise over the years has followed suit. The only (transforming) exception I see is canceled Hasbro release of the Scout class tank version. So I would be unsurprised if this Rumble was also red.

That being said, I am glad that, even if officially they were intended to be the other way around, both those Scout class tanks and the Masterpiece cassettes have allowed for the possibility of the blue one having pile drivers. In the case of the Scout class tanks, of course, they were built into the mold. So it would have been hard to do otherwise.

If this Rumble is, as rumored, a recolor of Groove, I doubt he will include any pile driver gimmick, though. So if a Frenzy hopefully follows eventually, the lack of pile drivers should make it just as easy for anyone so inclined to mentally swap the two.

That Bot wrote:

RhA wrote:My GDO Hotspot will not be obsolete. Ever.

I do hear that it's an excellent mold. I hope to own it one day, whether as Hot Spot or someone else. It could make a great pre-Defensor version of the character. But boy, the CW Hot Spot mold seems pretty great as well.

I'm waiting on the mailman to deliver CW Hot Spot as we speak. But I doubt he's a replacement for my GDO. That pre-Defensor remark is a great excuse to keep him.

That Bot wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:And as for Wheelie, they better do something awesome with him. The GDO Wheelie is hella cool, and honestly one of my favorite Transformers altogether. I know it doesn't make ANY sense for him to have the Jazz mold, but for some reason, that figure is just rad.

Walky likes him because he loves that mold and he loves that shade of orange. Maybe you're the same?

Kinda sad to hear about all the GDO stuff getting redundified so soon. They seemed like great options at the time, but then Hasbro turns around and makes PROPER versions of everybody and it's kind of like "Well what was the point of making those redecos?" Ah hindsight.

From what I gather, it was never Hasbro's intention for the GDO stuff to be the main classics version of a character. That's why those decos weren't scheduled for the north american market originally. They were just supposed to be some fun little redecos (nothing too fancy) using existing molds to give their growing Chinese and other international markets a little something extra (like those sticker sheets for example). Due to the uproar, they distributed the in the states. But since it was never their intention to make these the proper versions of the characters (I mean come on, we even already had an appropriately sized wheelie and a bunch of these were out of scale, look at Cliffjumper), I dont find it fair that we now complain that they are making those toys obsolete. These were exclusive decos and that was it. Be happy you were able to own them, they were never intended for north america.

some of the GDO releases are pretty sweet, I use that GDO Cliffjumper as my "G1enough" version, as the Classics version is too costly and just a Bee repaint.

Powerdive and Megatron are pretty sweet too, get the Reprolabels set for Megatron, and you've got a nice classics-verse G2 Megatron - that's tempting me tbh.

*Getting in on the action*


I only see a black robot and a blue one. FIBRIB. Besides, in the show they both used Pile-drivers to create earthquakes. Doesn't that really make both of them Rumble?

I actually liked a lot of the GDO repaints. I even liked Springer. Its a shame easy head swaps can't re-purpose them.

More on-topic - really hoping more G1 characters that never proper toys get into Combiner Wars and Generations. My collection lacks a decent Alpha Trion and I'm loathe to get the rather expensive 3rd party offering.

gdo was awesome

Sigh.... so where are the Wave 3 deluxes? Only a tiny smattering of retailers had them on shelves (very briefly) and that only in midwestern states. For the most part, all the major retailers are still dinking around stocking movie4 crud that they can't even give away, and RiD stuff that only kiddies really like.

The Combiner Wars/Generations line has been disappearing from shelves almost as soon as they pop up, except maybe the wave1 voyagers. The wave 2 stuff is still harder than heck to find, and the wave3 stuff - well, you wonder if it's even out at all. Practically the only place you CAN get the wave3s is through the 3rd party websites and their hyper-inflated prices. Hasbro has still not given their OWN online distributors access to the wave 3 deluxes.

Shockwave7 wrote:Sigh.... so where are the Wave 3 deluxes? Only a tiny smattering of retailers had them on shelves (very briefly) and that only in midwestern states. For the most part, all the major retailers are still dinking around stocking movie4 crud that they can't even give away, and RiD stuff that only kiddies really like.

The Combiner Wars/Generations line has been disappearing from shelves almost as soon as they pop up, except maybe the wave1 voyagers. The wave 2 stuff is still harder than heck to find, and the wave3 stuff - well, you wonder if it's even out at all. Practically the only place you CAN get the wave3s is through the 3rd party websites and their hyper-inflated prices. Hasbro has still not given their OWN online distributors access to the wave 3 deluxes.

Why are you still ranting about that.

Firstly, you are just using your area to make wide statements about everywhere. And that isn't true. Do I have to show you those pics again? My toysrus is full of nice wave 2. The walmart next door as well. So if what you say is true for everything, what are these doing here? Is it magic? Is it because they are crap and people dont want them? Or is it simply because distribution is tricky and it's taking time to restock in certain areas.

And don't cry wolf about online. TF source is getting more combiner wars wave 3 deluxes in June (you know, THIS month): http://tfsource.com/combiner-wars/deluxe3-set-of-4/. If you preorder them now, you'll get them when they come back in stock.

Lastly, HTS should not be the standard to judge a toy's availability. How many times must we say this. Hasbro will ALWAYS favor their main customers, which are the giant retailers. They come first. If they have extra or overstock, then HTS is their best way to sell it. If what you say is true and that combiner wars are selling like hot cakes (at least in your area), then wouldnt it make sense that your store orders more and thus there is less for HTS to have on their site?

With the announcement of the new Autobots limbs, I had to freeze my purchasing as I'm faced with a dilemma on a few of these for my collection.

Mirage is the hardest choice I'm faced with. The generations Mirage is gorgeous, but I'm also in love with the new Dragstrip mold, even if the look won't be correct, it will also be cool to have two similar bots to match up against each other.

Ironhide seems like a no-brainer, since most people have told me that they're disappointed in the Generations Ironhide. I'm also hoping we get a Ratchet out of this.

I already have and love my Universe 2.0 Sunstreaker and doubt that I'll have any interest in a Breakdown repaint. Same goes for Prowl.

I know this is a way-too-early debate, but that's why we're here. What do you all think?

Puhonix wrote:
I know this is a way-too-early debate, but that's why we're here. What do you all think?

I wont be getting those limbs. While I do like the characters and would like to have them as part of my collection, I would rather get their older Universe molds or wait until there are new ones that arent affected by the combining gimmick. Take Ironhide, one of my favourite characters. What is iconic about his look is his clear chest piece. The combiner peg would totally change that aesthetic and I have no care for it. I would rather wait for a better ironhide, I don't mind how long that takes. I could even use Arms Micron ironhide to repurpose him, he was decent and had the nice chest. I am not a big fan of redecos anyway and this wave is a perfect way to save money for the upcoming combaticons and technobots. In my classics collection, I would rather have these important autobot characters like Prowl and Sunstreaker unique from the combiner wars limb molds.

Seeing Hotspot on the shelves really excites me, I had gotten all the Deluxe from his wave from BBTS, but didn't get him. I am really excited to find both he and Groove (My opinion on Groove has done a 180, and I'm looking forward to him) at retail.

To add to WJ's last post on page 319, patience is a virtue. Just wait for TRU.ca to get them in stock (Hotspot/Cyc alreay have). Then you buy the lot of them for Canadian retail and free shipping. If I don't see them in store, that's what I plan to do.

shajaki wrote:To add to WJ's last post on page 319, patience is a virtue. Just wait for TRU.ca to get them in stock (Hotspot/Cyc alreay have). Then you buy the lot of them for Canadian retail and free shipping. If I don't see them in store, that's what I plan to do.

Same here And if you have rain checks, you can present them at a local store and ask to get your money back on the extra you paid by not being able to use the rain checks online.

Yotsuyasan wrote:

durroth wrote:I' excited for rumble. My collection needs more red in it.

Although, actually, you're probably right... Obviously, the G1 toy was red, and it looks like the majority of merchandise over the years has followed suit. The only (transforming) exception I see is canceled Hasbro release of the Scout class tank version. So I would be unsurprised if this Rumble was also red.

That being said, I am glad that, even if officially they were intended to be the other way around, both those Scout class tanks and the Masterpiece cassettes have allowed for the possibility of the blue one having pile drivers. In the case of the Scout class tanks, of course, they were built into the mold. So it would have been hard to do otherwise.

If this Rumble is, as rumored, a recolor of Groove, I doubt he will include any pile driver gimmick, though. So if a Frenzy hopefully follows eventually, the lack of pile drivers should make it just as easy for anyone so inclined to mentally swap the two.

I was mainly being tongue in cheek. I'll be a bit disappointed if it is a groove repaint, but I dunno what else it can be :/

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:To add to WJ's last post on page 319, patience is a virtue. Just wait for TRU.ca to get them in stock (Hotspot/Cyc alreay have). Then you buy the lot of them for Canadian retail and free shipping. If I don't see them in store, that's what I plan to do.

Same here And if you have rain checks, you can present them at a local store and ask to get your money back on the extra you paid by not being able to use the rain checks online.

Brilliant Will!

durroth wrote:
I was mainly being tongue in cheek. I'll be a bit disappointed if it is a groove repaint, but I dunno what else it can be :/

A new mold

I like the look of motorcycle Rumble in the IDW books since his robot mode looks pretty much like it always has, but I dont think that will translate into toy form. I have Ravage w/G1 missles that came with Hound and Rumble(blue Frenzy) masterpiece now so both the new ones will have to blow me away to get me to buy.

Ah I haven't been on the forums in a while. If I'm correct, there are rumors of Groove-repainted Rumble, Wheelie, Stripes and Ravage, Wheeljack, Trailbreaker, Smokescreen, Wreck Gar, Rewind, and Combaticons.
Well the Combaticons are a no-brainer. Will Rewind and Rumble both share the same Groove mold? Is Wreck Gar part of this too?
And seriously? Smokescreen? I don't have a problem with that, but I was kinda hoping for a Silverstreak; I don't see him around often. Also, didn't we already get a Trailbreaker like two years ago? Just wondering, any ideas on who Wheeljack will be a retool of? As usual, I really hope to see a new Red Alert figure (from from his "pal" Breakdown). Wonder how Ravage will look, probably IDW appearance.
Am I the only one that sees a possible Soundwave out of Rook (last time I checked he was an APC, right?). If not, do you think Onslaught will be a retool of Hot Spot, and then a Soundwave from Onslaught?
Oh, and any news of Combiner Wars Legends Rodimus and Skywarp?

that1guysittingthere wrote:Ah I haven't been on the forums in a while. If I'm correct, there are rumors of Groove-repainted Rumble, Wheelie, Stripes and Ravage, Wheeljack, Trailbreaker, Smokescreen, Wreck Gar, Rewind, and Combaticons.

Rumors, yes.

Well the Combaticons are a no-brainer. Will Rewind and Rumble both share the same Groove mold? Is Wreck Gar part of this too?

General thinking is that Wreck Gar and Rumble will be redecos of Groove, but we may be surprised.

Also, didn't we already get a Trailbreaker like two years ago?

We get an Optimus Prime every 3 months, we can get two Trailbreakers in as many years. (yes, it is kind of strange)

Am I the only one that sees a possible Soundwave out of Rook (last time I checked he was an APC, right?).

There's been a theory floating around that a potential CW Soundwave will be an Optimus/Motormaster retool, because they share body proportions in the comic, but there's no other grounding for this idea, and in the comics, Soundwave turns into an APC rather than a semi, as you said.

If not, do you think Onslaught will be a retool of Hot Spot,

Yes

and then a Soundwave from Onslaught?

Maybe

Oh, and any news of Combiner Wars Legends Rodimus and Skywarp?

Rodimus is confirmed as a redeco of Blackjack, he'll make the chest of the Optimus Maximus autobot combiner.

durroth wrote:

Yotsuyasan wrote:

durroth wrote:I' excited for rumble. My collection needs more red in it.

Although, actually, you're probably right... Obviously, the G1 toy was red, and it looks like the majority of merchandise over the years has followed suit. The only (transforming) exception I see is canceled Hasbro release of the Scout class tank version. So I would be unsurprised if this Rumble was also red.

That being said, I am glad that, even if officially they were intended to be the other way around, both those Scout class tanks and the Masterpiece cassettes have allowed for the possibility of the blue one having pile drivers. In the case of the Scout class tanks, of course, they were built into the mold. So it would have been hard to do otherwise.

If this Rumble is, as rumored, a recolor of Groove, I doubt he will include any pile driver gimmick, though. So if a Frenzy hopefully follows eventually, the lack of pile drivers should make it just as easy for anyone so inclined to mentally swap the two.

I was mainly being tongue in cheek. I'll be a bit disappointed if it is a groove repaint, but I dunno what else it can be :/

I actually hope it IS a Groove repaint, because I may not be able to get the Unite Warriors Protectobots.

SillySpringer wrote:
I actually hope it IS a Groove repaint, because I may not be able to get the Unite Warriors Protectobots.

He meant a repaint of legends groove. All of these cassettes are to be legends class, right?

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:
I actually hope it IS a Groove repaint, because I may not be able to get the Unite Warriors Protectobots.

He meant a repaint of legends groove. All of these cassettes are to be legends class, right?

Oh I completely forgot about that thing! He looks nothing like Rumble! The deluxe Groove would at least look good if it were remolded into Rumble, legend groove is too lanky! Also the rumer is that Soundwave will be a remold of the Prime/Motormaster mold, and the limbs will be the cassette minions.

Shockwave7 wrote:Sigh.... so where are the Wave 3 deluxes?

I don't know where you are, but they have just started hitting Louisiana. I hope that helps ease the stress a little.

william-james88 wrote:He meant a repaint of legends groove. All of these cassettes are to be legends class, right?

I believe that is the current rumor. I'm good either way. I will never say no to Soundwave or his lil buddies.

carytheone wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:Sigh.... so where are the Wave 3 deluxes?

I don't know where you are, but they have just started hitting Louisiana. I hope that helps ease the stress a little.

william-james88 wrote:He meant a repaint of legends groove. All of these cassettes are to be legends class, right?

I believe that is the current rumor. I'm good either way. I will never say no to Soundwave or his lil buddies.

I am in Texas, which is near Louisiana, hope that means they'll start hitting my area soon too.

SillySpringer wrote:Also the rumer is that Soundwave will be a remold of the Prime/Motormaster mold, and the limbs will be the cassette minions.

That's not even a rumor, just wild conjecture and wishful thinking.

That Bot wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Also the rumor (Edit: wishful thinking) is that Soundwave will be a remold of the Prime/Motormaster mold, and the limbs will be the cassette minions.

That's not even a rumor, just wild conjecture and wishful thinking.

I said rumor by habit. I press the submit button too soon.

Hotspot in Montreal and I still haven't seen Motormaster in Toronto. Just a glut of Silverbolt and Prime.

NuclearConvoy wrote:Hotspot in Montreal and I still haven't seen Motormaster in Toronto. Just a glut of Silverbolt and Prime.

Really, even in Walmart? Because that's where I have seen Motormaster mostly.

william-james88 wrote:

Puhonix wrote:
I know this is a way-too-early debate, but that's why we're here. What do you all think?

I wont be getting those limbs. While I do like the characters and would like to have them as part of my collection, I would rather get their older Universe molds or wait until there are new ones that arent affected by the combining gimmick. Take Ironhide, one of my favourite characters. What is iconic about his look is his clear chest piece. The combiner peg would totally change that aesthetic and I have no care for it. I would rather wait for a better ironhide, I don't mind how long that takes. I could even use Arms Micron ironhide to repurpose him, he was decent and had the nice chest. I am not a big fan of redecos anyway and this wave is a perfect way to save money for the upcoming combaticons and technobots. In my classics collection, I would rather have these important autobot characters like Prowl and Sunstreaker unique from the combiner wars limb molds.

I'm in the same boat, already have all the characters in their original Classics-verse representations (sure Ironhide's not the best) so I don't really need these guys. However I did put my preorder in.

Why?

Because they may end up cool, and stay in combined mode in my display, kind of like others keeping Universe Silverbolt and GDO Hotspot as pre-combiner versions of the characters in their collection, these'll be my post-combined versions.

Of course if they suck/I change my mind/run out of cash etc I'll just cancel...

Why are you still ranting about that.

Uh - because it's still TRUE? (Unless you can kindly escort us to all the 'big retailers' that are stuffed with w3 deluxes - which are the ones specifically about which I was inquiring...? PS - BBTS does NOT count - normal buyers are looking for places that DON'T mark up their merchandise.

Firstly, you are just using your area to make wide statements about everywhere. And that isn't true. Do I have to show you those pics again? My toysrus is full of nice wave 2.

Again - I was speaking of the w3 deluxes. Where are they? Only at the online distributors, so far as I can tell. My 'walmart next door' and TRU decidedly are NOT stocked with wave 2 either. Perhaps you're the one who should stop looking at your own local stores and assuming that every other store has them, and making blanket statements 'about everywhere'...?

And don't cry wolf about online. TF source is getting more combiner wars wave 3 deluxes in June. If you preorder them now, you'll get them when they come back in stock.

Uh, yes. I know. I was the one who mentioned above that online retailers have them. I believe I said something about 'hyper-inflated prices'? Does that not give you a clue, perhaps, as to why SOME of us would prefer to order them from HTS? Some folks here (ahem) may be awash with cash and well able to afford BBTS's beefy markups. But not all of us. Unless you'd like to start making statements 'about everyone' assuming how much money they may/may not have....?

Lastly, HTS should not be the standard to judge a toy's availability. How many times must we say this?... Wouldnt it make sense that your store orders more and thus there is less for HTS to have on their site?

What would 'make sense' is for HTS, Hasbro's official online distributor, to give themselves some of their own figures to sell instead of, as you are implying, merely the chum left over after the BBTS feeding frenzy. If, as the 'news guy' on these boards, you're as in the know as you pretend to be, why not get an official advance word from HTS on exactly when they'll be posting the w3 deluxes, instead of leaving myself, and perhaps others (ahem) to surmise? If you do that, you'll silence me right and proper. So if you're tired of me asking, then go and get HTS to give us a ball park so we can plan our day. Until then, I'm-a gonna keep asking - unless you try to ban me as some kind of abuser of these forums. What happened to 'the people have a right to know'? Why start haranguing forum posters just for asking simple questions? I wasn't insulting anyone, using foul language or anything untoward. I'm just asking some simple questions, which is what gathering 'news' is all about, no?

Ah, 'teh interwebz'... One of the only places where business proprietors can get away with treating potential clientele like dirt...

I'll probably get all of the Prowl, Mirage, Sunstreaker, and Ironhide limbs. Like most, I wish Hasbro would make more unique molds to better fit how they traditionally transform, but at least the remolds have been pretty good of other figures. I sort of wish they would make Prowl out of the new Groove limb mold (he was a motorcycle once), simply because it's going to be weird having two Grooves... Defensor will be in a Double-Groove, I guess.

Wheelie in new legends? Excellent.

As for the Soundwave minions, they are going to have to top Voyager FOC Soundwave to get me to bite.

Still no Kickback, Brawn, Outback, Seaspray, Pipes, or Beachcomber. Let alone at least a legends Reflector for army building. I would not be surprised to see Pipes show up this year in the Optimus mold. A fourth opportunity to make money on a mold.

SkyQuake101 wrote:I'll probably get all of the Prowl, Mirage, Sunstreaker, and Ironhide limbs. Like most, I wish Hasbro would make more unique molds to better fit how they traditionally transform, but at least the remolds have been pretty good of other figures. I sort of wish they would make Prowl out of the new Groove limb mold (he was a motorcycle once), simply because it's going to be weird having two Grooves... Defensor will be in a Double-Groove, I guess.

Keep them coming. Hope they do a Silverstreak/Smokescreen out of Prowl, Sideswipe/Red Alert out of Sunstreaker, and a Ratchet out of Ironhide. Maybe an Inferno/Grappel out of Hot Spot, and when Swindle comes out in the future, they could do Hound. They all need redone. A lot of the Classics line stuff looks like G1 compared to the detail of the new figures after 2012.

What will be interesting is what they will do with the Magnus mold. No one saw Thundercracker out of Jetfire coming........

shockblast2 wrote:I would not be surprised to see Pipes show up this year in the Optimus mold. A fourth opportunity to make money on a mold.

Would you be surprised to learn a listing of the guy has been found? Next year though, this year we still have Rodimus (Blackjack retool) and Skywarp (Starscream redeco, as always) in Legends Class.

Shockwave7 wrote:

Why are you still ranting about that.

Uh - because it's still TRUE? (Unless you can kindly escort us to all the 'big retailers' that are stuffed with w3 deluxes - which are the ones specifically about which I was inquiring...? PS - BBTS does NOT count - normal buyers are looking for places that DON'T mark up their merchandise.

Firstly, you are just using your area to make wide statements about everywhere. And that isn't true. Do I have to show you those pics again? My toysrus is full of nice wave 2.

Again - I was speaking of the w3 deluxes. Where are they? Only at the online distributors, so far as I can tell. My 'walmart next door' and TRU decidedly are NOT stocked with wave 2 either. Perhaps you're the one who should stop looking at your own local stores and assuming that every other store has them, and making blanket statements 'about everywhere'...?

You have to play fair Shockblast. You may have been refering to wave 3, but you did say the following:

Shockwave7 wrote:The Combiner Wars/Generations line has been disappearing from shelves almost as soon as they pop up, except maybe the wave1 voyagers. The wave 2 stuff is still harder than heck to find, and the wave3 stuff - well, you wonder if it's even out at all. Practically the only place you CAN get the wave3s is through the 3rd party websites and their hyper-inflated prices. Hasbro has still not given their OWN online distributors access to the wave 3 deluxes.

And I was replying to your statement about Wave 2. That is what I was commenting on, and only that. Wave 3 has been hard to find, I am on your side on this but it has not reached saturation yet. From my experience, I think we will only all find wave 3 in abundance not before another month. Usually the stores only get a few boxes at first from the newest wave, hoping to clear their backstock first before having the new toys. Canada has only recently gotten wave 2 fully stocked. as my pictures show, so I dont expect TRU to get wave 3 deluxes for at least another month.

And don't cry wolf about online. TF source is getting more combiner wars wave 3 deluxes in June. If you preorder them now, you'll get them when they come back in stock.

Uh, yes. I know. I was the one who mentioned above that online retailers have them. I believe I said something about 'hyper-inflated prices'? Does that not give you a clue, perhaps, as to why SOME of us would prefer to order them from HTS? Some folks here (ahem) may be awash with cash and well able to afford BBTS's beefy markups. But not all of us. Unless you'd like to start making statements 'about everyone' assuming how much money they may/may not have....?

I did not mean to insult you with this. From my understanding, a set of 4 deluxes makes them out to 16.5$ and from what I have read on the boards this is on par or less than Toysrus retail. I did not consider it a beefy markup, sorry if that insulted you. Due to the canadian exchange rate and insane shipping and border fees, I myself cannot afford to get these preorders so I rely on discounts at retail. So I definitely understand your situation.

As for the HTS talk, you can ask away but you wont get an answer. I was the only person answering you anyway. The reason you wont and cant get an answer is because Hasbro is a manufacturer first and an online retailer 2nd, or 3rd or 4th or dead last. I know that they will favor completing their orders for BBTS before considering their own store. There is too much at stake with their customers to prioritize their online retailing endeavors. I have asked several questions to Hasbro this past year on all sorts of release dates but they always give a non answer. This is not a prioriy of theirs, manufacturing and designing toys is. Anybody can comment on this if they feel I am wrong. And there is no reason to ban you, you do everything well. I just felt like answering you since no one else was. Sorry if I cam across as arrogant in any way.

Shockwave7 wrote:Sigh.... so where are the Wave 3 deluxes? Only a tiny smattering of retailers had them on shelves (very briefly) and that only in midwestern states. For the most part, all the major retailers are still dinking around stocking movie4 crud that they can't even give away, and RiD stuff that only kiddies really like.

The Combiner Wars/Generations line has been disappearing from shelves almost as soon as they pop up, except maybe the wave1 voyagers. The wave 2 stuff is still harder than heck to find, and the wave3 stuff - well, you wonder if it's even out at all. Practically the only place you CAN get the wave3s is through the 3rd party websites and their hyper-inflated prices. Hasbro has still not given their OWN online distributors access to the wave 3 deluxes.

They will come out everywhere, they just need time to populate. Some places in the US still have nothing but W1, while others have W3 albeit in small amounts. But like every line once they are on the pegs for a few weeks they start to fill out and eventually become short-time peg warmers. My TRU and Walmart both have a healthy stock of W2 Deluxe and Voyagers, as well as W3 Legends. The others will start showing up more often and in larger numbers soon, that much is for certain.

Yes, you can get the figures from e-tailers but they go through much different channels than chain retailers. Sometimes it's better to just keep an eye on your local sightings thread and see what others in your areas find. I know it can be frustrating but it will pay off in the end.

Are we sure next year is also Combiner Wars and not Combiner Hunters? I find it strange that Hasbro would call the line the same name for two years yet have the new fan-voted combiner be introduced in a comic called Combiner Hunters, with the toy to be released next year.

Bradimus wrote:Are we sure next year is also Combiner Wars and not Combiner Hunters? I find it strange that Hasbro would call the line the same name for two years yet have the new fan-voted combiner be introduced in a comic called Combiner Hunters, with the toy to be released next year.

Combiner Hunters is a one-shot issue, though.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bradimus wrote:Are we sure next year is also Combiner Wars and not Combiner Hunters? I find it strange that Hasbro would call the line the same name for two years yet have the new fan-voted combiner be introduced in a comic called Combiner Hunters, with the toy to be released next year.

Combiner Hunters is a one-shot issue, though.

And plus it seems to be the theme to an upcoming exclusive set instead of a full fledged line. But deeo down, the combiner wars line is still generations and it can default back to just being that if there are no combiners being issued. We already had WFC and FOC sublines for generations and combiner wars is now it's third subline. No reason it cant just revert to generations as it did before.

Beast wars
Beast Hunters (The original name for beast machines)
Transformers prime
Transformers Prime Beast Hunters
Combiner wars
Combiner hunters.

If that's the case and next year's generations line will be combiner hunters , then man, hasbro branding likes adding "HUNTERS" to things.

SkyQuake101 wrote:Defensor will be in a Double-Groove, I guess.

Double-Groove is not enough Groove. All Groove, I say!



Tis just a pity there is no Voyager Class Groove to form the torso!

shockblast2 wrote:Still no Kickback, Brawn, Outback, Seaspray, Pipes, or Beachcomber. Let alone at least a legends Reflector for army building. I would not be surprised to see Pipes show up this year in the Optimus mold. A fourth opportunity to make money on a mold.

Cough...





Am I just imagining owning all three of these? Sure, Brawn and Beachcomber are the older style of Legends, and are thus a bit smaller and more simplistic. And sure, Seaspray is a bit oversized as a Voyager, and his robot mode aesthetic isn't the most G1-faithful recreation there is. But they do exist. Saying "still no" in reference to them is inaccurate.

Would I like newer figures of them? I wouldn't say no, especially to a better Seaspray. But if Hasbro has a limited number of figures they can do, I'd rather they concentrate on holes that actually still need filling rather than ones you seem to like to pretend exist because you are denying the existence of already made figures.

I kind of agree on two of those three, I'd prefer to see new versions of the legends figures - Brawn and Beachcomber were OK for their time, I'd like to see new releases (plus the missing characters) in a size to match that of the new legends range.

Seaspray I'm tempted by, I just don't have enough space in my collection atm...

i'd say 90% of the tfs out there are shitty rid or tf4 figures, 8% are cw wave 1, 1% are cw wave 2, 1% are cw wave 3. not sure how anyone can argue that distribution doesn't suck balls this year with a straight face.

peaces wrote:i'd say 90% of the tfs out there are **** rid or tf4 figures, 8% are cw wave 1, 1% are cw wave 2, 1% are cw wave 3. not sure how anyone can argue that distribution doesn't suck balls this year with a straight face.

I will definitely agree that the leftover movie figures are still a big portion of what is out there and it sucks (since its taking up shelf space from newer toys). But I see more Combiner Wars than RID in my area when it comes to new stuff. And Wave three is just trickling down, it hasnt saturated yet, far from it.

peaces wrote:i'd say 90% of the tfs out there are **** rid or tf4 figures, 8% are cw wave 1, 1% are cw wave 2, 1% are cw wave 3. not sure how anyone can argue that distribution doesn't suck balls this year with a straight face.

I won't argue that it doesn't suck, it just doesn't seem to be any worse than usual. I always have a real hard time finding the figures I want, so I usually try to go with HTS (or BBTS if I really want the figure, the most recent Cosmos figure for example, I don't recall ever even seeing Cosmos at my Walmart). My Walmart just got Wave 1 voyagers around 3 weeks ago, and yesterday I saw wave 2 deluxes, but I have seen very few Wave 1 deluxes. I would have missed most of Wave 1 if I didn't order online. The last time I tried to get figures at a store was GDO HotSpot, and I ended up driving around for four hours to visit the three nearest Toys R Us, only to find just one HotSpot buried at the back behind other figures. For me trying to get figures at stores is just a waste of time, gas money, and a lot of disappointment.

It would be great if HTS was a bit better in terms of preorders and announcing release dates, but I get the impression they just don't want to do it. I think they just want to put things on sale if they have them or will get them very soon and let the other stores deal with preorders and such. I usually just check HTS regularly especially around the time when a wave is released. I noticed that Generations Legends Viper is back in stock (and shipping in one business day, unlike the previous date of 6/15), so I am hopeful HTS will have Wave 3 soon.

Yotsuyasan wrote:

SkyQuake101 wrote:Defensor will be in a Double-Groove, I guess.

Double-Groove is not enough Groove. All Groove, I say!



Tis just a pity there is no Voyager Class Groove to form the torso!

shockblast2 wrote:Still no Kickback, Brawn, Outback, Seaspray, Pipes, or Beachcomber. Let alone at least a legends Reflector for army building. I would not be surprised to see Pipes show up this year in the Optimus mold. A fourth opportunity to make money on a mold.

Cough...





Am I just imagining owning all three of these? Sure, Brawn and Beachcomber are the older style of Legends, and are thus a bit smaller and more simplistic. And sure, Seaspray is a bit oversized as a Voyager, and his robot mode aesthetic isn't the most G1-faithful recreation there is. But they do exist. Saying "still no" in reference to them is inaccurate.

Would I like newer figures of them? I wouldn't say no, especially to a better Seaspray. But if Hasbro has a limited number of figures they can do, I'd rather they concentrate on holes that actually still need filling rather than ones you seem to like to pretend exist because you are denying the existence of already made figures.

The micro legends don't count for anything. All of the transformations are crap. None of them are to scale with the new or classic figures. You might as well have picked bot shot Hound or ROTF Beachcomber in your argument. At least beachcomber would be to scale.

And that Seaspray is a movieverse figure. Who in the world would shoehorn this or the two legends into a deluxe/voyager collection is beyond me.

The new legends line is the ONLY legends line. The one that came before it was a cheap imitation. A subline that had nothing to do with the current Universe line it encompassed. If so, why bother making a Voyager Optimus when they had a legends class one?