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Posted by Sabrblade on October 25th, 2016 @ 10:20am CDT
Battle Gaia was a redeco of G1 Bruticus released by Takara in 1992 during the Operation Combination line of the Japanese G1 era. He, like his Autobot counterpart Guard City (a redeco of G1 Defensor) is desirable for how obscure and rare he is, having never been reissued nor having appeared in much fiction beyond the original Operation Combination fiction and some minor fanwanky Japanese fiction of recent years. And because his deco looks cool.Insurgent wrote:Who is Battle Gear/Gaia and why do people want him?
Posted by o.supreme on October 25th, 2016 @ 10:22am CDT
Insurgent wrote:Who is Battle Gear/Gaia and why do people want him?
Battle Gaia & Guard City were the first ever "repaints" if you will of Bruticus and Defensor respectively for the Japanese Manga Operation Combination @ 1992. I think its only one person that's asking, and doubtful these two versions will ever be remade. however I'm thinking that (at least with Battle Gaia), being the first Combiner repainted may have had some small part in making Bruticus the most often reproduced combiner to date.
Posted by Robogeek1973 on October 25th, 2016 @ 10:26am CDT
It's an instabuy for sure.
Posted by o.supreme on October 25th, 2016 @ 10:34am CDT
Posted by Insurgent on October 25th, 2016 @ 10:44am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 25th, 2016 @ 10:54am CDT
o.supreme wrote:anyone know of any clean close-up pics of the Lynx Master Box Art Yet?
sorry, that pic is all we have online at the moment.
Posted by Flashwave on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:02am CDT
I must say though, I know the baby puke tan is accurate to the Takara version of the character, and I wouldnt expect Takara to do anything less. But blech. I do not like it. Nope.
Still, looking forward to my TFSS Scourge having some actually accurate Commandos, and not the Energon guys.
Posted by fenrir72 on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:32am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Why do you keep calling him that? ガイアー means "Gaia" (Gaiā), not "Gear" (ギヤ Giya or ギア Gia).fenrir72 wrote:I wonder the possibilities of a Battle gear version?
That's just the OT JP way of calling him "GeAR".
Posted by fenrir72 on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:34am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Battle Gaia was a redeco of G1 Bruticus released by Takara in 1992 during the Operation Combination line of the Japanese G1 era. He, like his Autobot counterpart Guard City (a redeco of G1 Defensor) is desirable for how obscure and rare he is, having never been reissued nor having appeared in much fiction beyond the original Operation Combination fiction and some minor fanwanky Japanese fiction of recent years. And because his deco looks cool.Insurgent wrote:Who is Battle Gear/Gaia and why do people want him?
Cool x Infinity!
Posted by Munkky on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:35am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:38am CDT
Munkky wrote:My Unite Warriors Lynxmaster came in the post today, and I've been having a lot of fun with it. The only problem I've had so far is the joints on some of the individual figures are a bit tight, particularly on Trailbreaker and Ratchet, to the point where every time I transform them I get worried about applying too much force and breaking something off. Wheeljack's combiner port also makes a worrying CLANG that's louder and feels more strained than the ports on any other Combiner Wars Deluxe I own. Despite this, I'm pleased with my purchase and I do like Lynxmaster more than Superion or Ultra Prime.
Could you take some pics of the toys and their box if possible to show us? Especially Ratchet since that toy is totally new.
Posted by Evil Eye on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:47am CDT
That said, I'd still want to replace those awful hands and feet. Yes they make better feet than the HFGs...but that's not saying much. They still have no forward/backward ankle movement, and the HFGs actually made better hands than the dedicated fists, which have ZERO articulation. At least the HFGs had a finger flap and a moveable thumb.
Regardless, hopefully I'll be able to get him.
Posted by Munkky on October 25th, 2016 @ 1:17pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Could you take some pics of the toys and their box if possible to show us? Especially Ratchet since that toy is totally new.
Apologies for the poor quality, I had to take these pics on my phone:
More pics to come.
Posted by Munkky on October 25th, 2016 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by Munkky on October 25th, 2016 @ 1:28pm CDT
(Combiner Wars Bruticus is the only Combiner I have on hand for a comparison right now)
While my version didn't come with a comic, there is this little drawing on the back of the instructions. You've got the Lynxmaster Autobots putting on a play; Sky Lynx is a dragon, Trailbreaker is a knight, Ratchet is a princess (Oh Japan, never ever change), and I think Hound and Wheeljack are doing light and stage effects with their HFG's. I don't know who the three people below Wheeljack singing opera are, if they're characters from Japanese or Sunbow G1 or if they're just entirely new. Optimus, Marissa Faireborne, Ironhide, Hot Spot and someone else (I can't tell who it is) are in the audience.
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on October 25th, 2016 @ 1:28pm CDT
Posted by Optimum Supreme on October 25th, 2016 @ 1:30pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 25th, 2016 @ 1:34pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Why do you keep calling him that? ガイアー means "Gaia" (Gaiā), not "Gear" (ギヤ Giya or ギア Gia).fenrir72 wrote:I wonder the possibilities of a Battle gear version?
That's just the OT JP way of calling him "GeAR".
"OT"? I don't think the "Gear" name was even considered at the time.
As for why Baldigus over Battle Gaia, the latter hasn't been created yet at the fiction takes place, between Masterforce and Victory in 2021. Baldigus has, in 2000 in the Car Robots timeframe. Remember, Car Robots is considered G1, while the Robots in Disguise dub is its own universe. That's also why no US RiD names are used.
Posted by Munkky on October 25th, 2016 @ 1:35pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 25th, 2016 @ 1:40pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 25th, 2016 @ 1:57pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 25th, 2016 @ 2:01pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Looks great...still not sure what the reasoning was with the almost 45 degree angle shot. would have looked just as nice standing straight, and in form with all the other UW boxart
What, you don't want to catch the perfect angle to show Sky Lynx's grandeur? This is Captain Modesty we're talking about.
Munkky wrote:While my version didn't come with a comic, there is this little drawing on the back of the instructions. You've got the Lynxmaster Autobots putting on a play for Optimus and who I'm assuming is Marissa Faireborne; Sky Lynx is a dragon, Trailbreaker is a knight, Ratchet is a princess (Oh Japan, never ever change), and I think Hound and Wheeljack are doing light and stage effects with their HFG's. I don't know who the three people below Wheeljack singing opera are, if they're characters from Japanese or Sunbow G1 or if they're just entirely new.
I had to look a little, but it takes place on Eurythma. The singers there are from "Carnage in C-Minor", that episode takes place there.
Expect the one for Baldigus to take place inside a bath complex as every member has his own preferred type of bath. O, coffee milk is a must
Posted by Va'al on October 25th, 2016 @ 2:03pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 25th, 2016 @ 2:13pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 25th, 2016 @ 2:23pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:What, you don't want to catch the perfect angle to show Sky Lynx's grandeur? This is Captain Modesty we're talking about.
You can even see it in his name: Special Saviour Combiner? It's Skylynx thinking he's the messiah.
Posted by Counterpunch on October 25th, 2016 @ 2:28pm CDT
Hound looks better than the CW version, but the $3 Reprolabel set got the same effects...
Trailbreaker looks ok. I kind of like the sleek CW bot mode better, but this is really more classic.
Wheeljack I really expected to look a lot better. Seems that the white is more white-ish, but the paint apps are too cartoony, needs more.
Skylynx has marginally different paint apps. I actually dislike the red weapons.
Overall, I was hoping for a little more premium out of this set.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on October 25th, 2016 @ 2:29pm CDT
...but hey, you're probably right.
Posted by william-james88 on October 25th, 2016 @ 2:40pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Trailbreaker looks ok. I kind of like the sleek CW bot mode better, but this is really more classic.
Skylynx has marginally different paint apps. I actually dislike the red weapons.
Overall, I was hoping for a little more premium out of this set.
For Skylynx, I actually thought they were using the hasbro stand in the first time we saw it. There really isnt much difference and whatever difference there is doesnt really make it premium or superior. And I totally agree on trailbreaker. I love what Hasbro did with him. I really like the heavy use of tampos we have (like the G1 stickers and even his entire windshield), the Hasbro version already feels and looks very finished with takara not really adding something to make it look premium. That was never really their intention, they just want things to look cartoon accurate, but that just means that Hasbro did a pretty decent job on their end. Its too bad many fans have to get this set just to they can have a factory painted ratchet when the hasbro equivalents for most of the others are perfectly fine.
Posted by Cobotron on October 25th, 2016 @ 2:56pm CDT
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Wheeljack deco ia an homage to a Diaclone version of the Lancia toy.
Or maybe that Diaclone just doesn't have his stickers applied.
Also, love that box painting! Awesome how Lynx is air dropping in the team!
Posted by Noideaforaname on October 25th, 2016 @ 3:40pm CDT
I'm going to ignore all the crazy and point out the irony of Sky Lynx balancing on the one foot that always collapses on itself (at least on my Hasbro one, pretty sure it's a widespread issue tho).
Posted by Sabrblade on October 25th, 2016 @ 3:56pm CDT
Takara did use "Sky-Byte" in Latin script for Legends Gelshark, though.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That's also why no US RiD names are used.
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:What, you don't want to catch the perfect angle to show Sky Lynx's grandeur? This is Captain Modesty we're talking about.
You can even see it in his name: Special Saviour Combiner? It's Skylynx thinking he's the messiah.
The actual Kanji on the box instead translates more accurately into something like "Special Disaster Relief" as Lynxmaster's function.Sigma Magnus wrote:I believe that is meant to refer to how they're a rescue team...
...but hey, you're probably right.
Yeah, the most that looks different on Sky Lynx are the red inside his shuttle mouth (which was gold on Hasbro's), the red inside his lynx mouth (which again was gold on Hasbro's), and the weapons being red (which were gray on Hasbro's) as a homage to Sky Lynx's longer red tail on both Sky Lynx's original toy and cartoon model.william-james88 wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Trailbreaker looks ok. I kind of like the sleek CW bot mode better, but this is really more classic.
Skylynx has marginally different paint apps. I actually dislike the red weapons.
Overall, I was hoping for a little more premium out of this set.
For Skylynx, I actually thought they were using the hasbro stand in the first time we saw it. There really isnt much difference and whatever difference there is doesnt really make it premium or superior.
It's the cartoon colors. The cartoon model was less colorful than the original stickered-up toy was.Cobotron wrote:And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Wheeljack deco ia an homage to a Diaclone version of the Lancia toy.
Posted by ebo716 on October 25th, 2016 @ 4:03pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 25th, 2016 @ 4:11pm CDT
ebo716 wrote:http://m.imgur.com/iQf550L
I ended up creating what is probably my favorite combined mode earlier
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But if your using imgur, just use the brackets and the actual link you get by clicking on the image. It's the second one down on the right. Then we can see it here!
Posted by ebo716 on October 25th, 2016 @ 4:38pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:ebo716 wrote:http://m.imgur.com/iQf550L
I ended up creating what is probably my favorite combined mode earlier
Post isn't working.
But if your using imgur, just use the brackets and the actual link you get by clicking on the image. It's the second one down on the right. Then we can see it here!
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Hopefully that will work
Posted by King Kuuga on October 25th, 2016 @ 4:47pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 25th, 2016 @ 5:46pm CDT
I thought of doing something similar with Prime so he could have massive gorilla arms, Cybertron style
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 25th, 2016 @ 6:06pm CDT
戦闘スペシャリスト (sentō supesharisuto) Combat Specialist is pretty straightforward, but what faction will they use? Destronger? Combatron? Commando? Or even Predacon like they did for LG-EX Black Convoy?
Posted by Zeedust on October 25th, 2016 @ 8:20pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:but what faction will they use? Destronger? Combatron? Commando? Or even Predacon like they did for LG-EX Black Convoy?
I wouldn't even rule out them going with Decepticon. Less likely, but hardly impossible.
Posted by Emerje on October 25th, 2016 @ 8:40pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And I don't know what Grand Scourge's being a dimension-hopper has to do with this since Baldigus himself isn't a dimension-hopper. Car Robots is part of the Japanese G1 cartoon continuity timeline.
Why would Baldigus have to be a dimension hopper if Grand Scourge is? The point is that there's really nothing keeping people from displaying Grand Scourge with Baldigus, or any Transformers from any line for that matter.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Wow. This surprised me quite a bit. I went to my go-to importer, TFSource, to order Baldigus, and found their preorder price is $199.99. WTF!? I went to my second choice, BigBadToyStore, and pre-ordered Baldigus for the MUCH more sane price of $159.99. What gives with the $40.00 mark-up at TFSource? Yikes!
Yeah, I was shocked when I saw the price was so high. I've been ordering my UW figures from TFSource because of the free shipping, but it looks like I need to dust off my BBTS account. Even after shipping it's only at least $166.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I thought of doing something similar with Prime so he could have massive gorilla arms, Cybertron style
Prime already has massive gorilla arms.
Emerje
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 25th, 2016 @ 9:28pm CDT
Emerje wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I thought of doing something similar with Prime so he could have massive gorilla arms, Cybertron style
Prime already has massive gorilla arms.
Emerje
for your amusement:
Posted by Bumblebee21 on October 25th, 2016 @ 9:29pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 25th, 2016 @ 9:35pm CDT
When is he ever these days?Bumblebee21 wrote:prime doesnt look amused
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 25th, 2016 @ 10:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:When is he ever these days?Bumblebee21 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:for your amusement:
prime doesnt look amused
The funny thing is, I didn't see "Optimus Prime" when I looked at that picture. I saw IDW's Nova/Nemesis Prime. That might be because I've repurposed my Battle Core Optimus Prime as Nova Prime, of course.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:21pm CDT
Munkky wrote:
Hmmm...perhaps one of our resident Transformers media buffs can answer this one for me. Where does that red rectangle on Takara's Unite Warriors version of Trailbreaker come from? It's not from the cartoon. The rest of the changes in plastic and paint apps from the Hasbro version certainly seem to be for the sake of screen accuracy. For that matter, why didn't they paint the joint of the combiner peg blue to match the faux windows on his robot mode chest? They did so for Ratchet to give an illusion of a full windshield. Come to think of it, they didn't do that for Ironhide either. Dang.
Posted by Kurona on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:33pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Munkky wrote:
Hmmm...perhaps one of our resident Transformers media buffs can answer this one for me. Where does that red rectangle on Takara's Unite Warriors version of Trailbreaker come from? It's not from the cartoon. The rest of the changes in plastic and paint apps from the Hasbro version certainly seem to be for the sake of screen accuracy. For that matter, why didn't they paint the joint of the combiner peg blue to match the faux windows on his robot mode chest? They did so for Ratchet to give an illusion of a full windshield. Come to think of it, they didn't do that for Ironhide either. Dang.
You know what? I honestly don't know. It's not in Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW, any of his toys... the best I can guess are animation errors or it's a reference to how his visor is red sometimes.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:34pm CDT
His cartoon model does have a little rectangle on its forehead, but like you said, it's not colored red in the cartoon. Maybe it's a subtle nod to the original G1 toy's red visor. Or maybe the Takara toy color person/people saw that detail and misremembered its not being colored in the cartoon.Wolfman Jake wrote:Hmmm...perhaps one of our resident Transformers media buffs can answer this one for me. Where does that red rectangle on Takara's Unite Warriors version of Trailbreaker come from? It's not from the cartoon.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:38pm CDT
Kurona wrote:You know what? I honestly don't know. It's not in Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW, any of his toys... the best I can guess are animation errors or it's a reference to how his visor is red sometimes.
Yeah, referencing the red visor of the G1 toy and some other fictional appearances is he only thing I could think of, but it's also an odd thing to reference. Takara already released Generations Trailbreaker a few years ago with a red visor, so fans who like that can always fall back on that version. I also wish someone at some point realized that Trailbreaker's gun hand is on the wrong arm! >.< That would have been easy to fix at the design stage.
Posted by Kurona on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:43pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Kurona wrote:You know what? I honestly don't know. It's not in Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW, any of his toys... the best I can guess are animation errors or it's a reference to how his visor is red sometimes.
Yeah, referencing the red visor of the G1 toy and some other fictional appearances is he only thing I could think of, but it's also an odd thing to reference. Takara already released Generations Trailbreaker a few years ago with a red visor, so fans who like that can always fall back on that version. I also wish someone at some point realized that Trailbreaker's gun hand is on the wrong arm! >.< That would have been easy to fix at the design stage.
Easy fix: put a mirror next to him!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:45pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Kurona wrote:You know what? I honestly don't know. It's not in Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW, any of his toys... the best I can guess are animation errors or it's a reference to how his visor is red sometimes.
Yeah, referencing the red visor of the G1 toy and some other fictional appearances is he only thing I could think of, but it's also an odd thing to reference. Takara already released Generations Trailbreaker a few years ago with a red visor, so fans who like that can always fall back on that version. I also wish someone at some point realized that Trailbreaker's gun hand is on the wrong arm! >.< That would have been easy to fix at the design stage.
Easy fix: put a mirror next to him!
That's crazy talk! What am I going to do with TWO Trailbreakers, then?
Posted by Kurona on October 25th, 2016 @ 11:48pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Kurona wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Kurona wrote:You know what? I honestly don't know. It's not in Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW, any of his toys... the best I can guess are animation errors or it's a reference to how his visor is red sometimes.
Yeah, referencing the red visor of the G1 toy and some other fictional appearances is he only thing I could think of, but it's also an odd thing to reference. Takara already released Generations Trailbreaker a few years ago with a red visor, so fans who like that can always fall back on that version. I also wish someone at some point realized that Trailbreaker's gun hand is on the wrong arm! >.< That would have been easy to fix at the design stage.
Easy fix: put a mirror next to him!
That's crazy talk! What am I going to do with TWO Trailbreakers, then?
Shattered Glass guy decided to paint himself black?