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Posted by Rated X on February 12th, 2012 @ 11:07am CST
Dont get me wrong, the anime chicks look hot. But I could imagine someone who actually owned these dolls being labeled a perv by society. Im not saying everyone would think like this, but I know many women in Miami that do.
Posted by fairplaythings on February 12th, 2012 @ 11:14am CST
Rated X wrote:I could be wrong, but I just dont see too many TF fans buying into doll collecting. The Botcon 2012 Metalhawk is bad enough.
Depending on availability and price point, they'll be a hit with a lot of fans.
Rated X wrote:Dont get me wrong, the anime chicks look hot. But I could imagine someone who actually owned these dolls being labeled a perv by society. Im not saying everyone would think like this, but I know many women in Miami that do.
Likely the perv labels comes not from owning such dolls but saying they look hot. And one certainly doesn't need to own such toys to make such comments.
They look awesome. I will move heaven and earth for the three of them.
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on February 12th, 2012 @ 11:17am CST
fairplaythings wrote:Depending on availability and price point, they'll be a hit with a lot of fans.
While I'd like that, these will almost definitely go for a lot of dough.
Posted by Rated X on February 12th, 2012 @ 11:39am CST
fairplaythings wrote:Rated X wrote:I could be wrong, but I just dont see too many TF fans buying into doll collecting. The Botcon 2012 Metalhawk is bad enough.
Depending on availability and price point, they'll be a hit with a lot of fans.Rated X wrote:Dont get me wrong, the anime chicks look hot. But I could imagine someone who actually owned these dolls being labeled a perv by society. Im not saying everyone would think like this, but I know many women in Miami that do.
Likely the perv labels comes not from owning such dolls but saying they look hot. And one certainly doesn't need to own such toys to make such comments.
They look awesome. I will move heaven and earth for the three of them.
Obviously the molds were created to make the dolls look "hot". Theres no getting around it. You can sugarcoat it all you want, but obviously, these are not made to be politically correct. A non-TF fan would interpret them quite differently. They would see teenage faces with seductive bodies. I know some mothers in their mid 20's who refuse to let their daughters play with "Bratz" dolls because of the image they project. Im not implying all women think to these extremes. Im simply implying that if you own these dolls, there are some women out there that would avoid you.
Posted by Doctor McGrath on February 12th, 2012 @ 12:54pm CST
Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 12th, 2012 @ 1:17pm CST
Their faces instantly remind me of those Queen's Blade figures I see at every big comic con, compared to which both Minerva's are downright kid-friendly. Hell, I'll probably buy both of them just to distract my lady friends from my Soul of Chogokin female Mazinger robots and Slave Leia.
Posted by Dead Metal on February 12th, 2012 @ 1:38pm CST
Also,
WTF?! There will be a Nightbeat repaint of Minerva, with a creepy grumpy male head?
There is also the question of why Minerva comes with two different heads, that both have that same "inflatable lady friend doll" expression about them. :0
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on February 12th, 2012 @ 2:23pm CST
Rated X wrote:I know some mothers in their mid 20's who refuse to let their daughters play with "Bratz" dolls because of the image they project. Im not implying all women think to these extremes. Im simply implying that if you own these dolls, there are some women out there that would avoid you.
Well, I've owned this for a while now.
So far no one said anything about it, sure there's women who'd be turned off, but they should understand that it's just a fun hobby, just like with Transformers, just saying.
Dead Metal wrote:WTF?! There will be a Nightbeat repaint of Minerva, with a creepy grumpy male head?
Actually that's Hi-Q's head, Ginrai's not-nearly-as-awesome American counterpart, complete with funky space sunglasses!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 12th, 2012 @ 4:01pm CST
Posted by GrimZata99 on February 12th, 2012 @ 4:02pm CST
Posted by Blurrz on February 12th, 2012 @ 4:04pm CST
Rated X wrote:Im simply implying that if you own these dolls, there are some women out there that would avoid you.
Who gives a fuck ? If the lady is more focused on what you own rather who you are, then she's far too materialistic to begin with. And if you want a one night stand, then hell, shove that shit in the closet.
When it comes down it, they're pretty much like fembots, and if you're afraid of having that in your collection, then that's you and you alone.
Reminsd me that I need to make a TFA Nightbird and Nightbeat..
Posted by GrimZata99 on February 12th, 2012 @ 4:05pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:One of my favorite TF ever is God Ginrai. So when Ginrai will be out, I'll be the first in line to purchase this guy. As long that the price is reasonable. Maybe 50$?
I hate to inform you, but here are some of the other releases in this line:
http://www.hlj.com/product/CMS65417?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
http://www.hlj.com/product/CMS65419?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
Posted by munkimus prime on February 12th, 2012 @ 4:15pm CST
Does anyone else think of Magnamon from Digimon when they see the blue and yellow Minerva?.
Posted by Rated X on February 12th, 2012 @ 5:15pm CST
Blurrz wrote:Rated X wrote:Im simply implying that if you own these dolls, there are some women out there that would avoid you.
Who gives a **** ? If the lady is more focused on what you own rather who you are, then she's far too materialistic to begin with. And if you want a one night stand, then hell, shove that shit in the closet.
When it comes down it, they're pretty much like fembots, and if you're afraid of having that in your collection, then that's you and you alone.
Reminsd me that I need to make a TFA Nightbird and Nightbeat..
I think youre missing my entire point. The anime style of faces makes them look like teenage girls. Collectible dolls can be made to look "hot" without having them look underage.
Take Tomb Raider for example:
But if you were to display these dolls on your shelf, some people might think you got some real issues...
This isnt the late 90's where anything goes. Anyone suspected of lusting underage girls is not respected where I come from. And all I was trying to say is these dolls can be mistaken for something the buyer doesnt intend to suggest.
BTW, Barbie dolls are posable and collectible also, so these are indeed "dolls".
Posted by GrimZata99 on February 12th, 2012 @ 6:13pm CST
Rated X wrote:Blurrz wrote:Rated X wrote:Im simply implying that if you own these dolls, there are some women out there that would avoid you.
Who gives a **** ? If the lady is more focused on what you own rather who you are, then she's far too materialistic to begin with. And if you want a one night stand, then hell, shove that shit in the closet.
When it comes down it, they're pretty much like fembots, and if you're afraid of having that in your collection, then that's you and you alone.
Reminsd me that I need to make a TFA Nightbird and Nightbeat..
I think youre missing my entire point. The anime style of faces makes them look like teenage girls. Collectible dolls can be made to look "hot" without having them look underage.
Take Tomb Raider for example:
But if you were to display these dolls on your shelf, some people might think you got some real issues...
This isnt the late 90's where anything goes. Anyone suspected of lusting underage girls is not respected where I come from. And all I was trying to say is these dolls can be mistaken for something the buyer doesnt intend to suggest.
BTW, Barbie dolls are posable and collectible also, so these are indeed "dolls".
How are Barbie's "posable"? They have what, five swivel joints? And yes, they are collectible dolls, but stuff like Gutto-Kurus and figmas are collectible figures.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 12th, 2012 @ 6:20pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 12th, 2012 @ 6:33pm CST
Minerva IS a teenage girl! She's 15 years old. All Headmaster Juniors are teenagers/preteens. It was the Godmasters who were young adults/middle adults. Sheesh, man.Rated X wrote:I think youre missing my entire point. The anime style of faces makes them look like teenage girls.
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on February 12th, 2012 @ 6:52pm CST
Bumblevivisector wrote:I think the final acid test of whether a figure is a "doll" or not is whether it can wear actual clothes that can be changed without popping off or interchanging body parts. Since these have interchangeable faces and the only way to put the helmet on involves popping her hair off, and said hair is one flexible piece of plastic as opposed to being rooted, I'd say these are clearly "figures", not dolls.
Yeah that's what I was thinking too.
Pretty clear which one of these is the doll.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 12th, 2012 @ 7:18pm CST
GrimZata99 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:One of my favorite TF ever is God Ginrai. So when Ginrai will be out, I'll be the first in line to purchase this guy. As long that the price is reasonable. Maybe 50$?
I hate to inform you, but here are some of the other releases in this line:
http://www.hlj.com/product/CMS65417?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
http://www.hlj.com/product/CMS65419?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
More than 100$.... Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.......
Still it's the closest thing to a humanized Optimus Prime as I can get and he'll fit so well next to my God Ginrai. I'll have to bite the bullet. I may buy him later than intended, but I'll have him eventually.
Posted by Rated X on February 12th, 2012 @ 8:46pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Makes sense to redeco Minerva in Nightbeat colors since Nightbeat's toy was released as a mail order figure over in Japan as "Minerva Night Beat".Minerva IS a teenage girl! She's 15 years old. All Headmaster Juniors are teenagers/preteens. It was the Godmasters who were young adults/middle adults. Sheesh, man.Rated X wrote:I think youre missing my entire point. The anime style of faces makes them look like teenage girls.
By her curvaceous looks, Minerva isnt exactly a girl scout, is she ???
Maybe the actual cartoons were done in another era when nobody cared. But I doubt these dolls would get a pass from most women with kids. Not in Miami, at least. Latinos are very family oriented.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 12th, 2012 @ 8:56pm CST
She's not bad. She's just drawn that way.Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Makes sense to redeco Minerva in Nightbeat colors since Nightbeat's toy was released as a mail order figure over in Japan as "Minerva Night Beat".Minerva IS a teenage girl! She's 15 years old. All Headmaster Juniors are teenagers/preteens. It was the Godmasters who were young adults/middle adults. Sheesh, man.Rated X wrote:I think youre missing my entire point. The anime style of faces makes them look like teenage girls.
By her curvaceous looks, Minerva isnt exactly a girl scout, is she ???
Posted by Mechastrike on February 12th, 2012 @ 8:58pm CST
Posted by fenrir72 on February 13th, 2012 @ 4:44am CST
What's the big deal with the Minerva figure? And what makes Minerva creepy anyway? Btw, they're action figures if you want to go anal.
I'd consider them dolls if the costumes come off (Dolfie,VMF,Azone and AFC) those are what you'd consider "dolls". Her armor doesn't come off at all. You can't strip her down to her pantsu so why the hang ups? It isn't even Kiss Player level?
Figutto are action figures, with emphasis on action figures.....like figma.......only bigger. They're no different from SquarEnix's FF figures or their PlayArts Kai lines.
It's mentality like these that prevents Hasbro from ever releasing any female themed TFs. Thank Primus that we have the Japanese market that don't have any hang ups at all on such sublines.
Busy checking my on line Japanese supplier to get a final release date 'cause I'm getting Ginrai and Minerva.
Posted by RiddlerJ on February 13th, 2012 @ 8:51am CST
Okay, here's the real test. Doesn't matter what you have on your shelf. If your molesting real children, you're a pedophile, if your not molesting real children then your not.
Seriously, we're getting so out of control with reading into everything. Meanwhile real perverts and criminals get released back into the world every day with nothing but a slap on the wrist because no one wants to push those issues.
Priorities please.
Posted by fenrir72 on February 13th, 2012 @ 5:42pm CST
Who cares what those conservative anal retentive stiffs think back in Florida?
Haven't we TF collectors have enough of the derision and prejudgments leveled on us by the general public before TF became a hip and trendy phenomenon?
As for the other anime themed figures who look under age......before mouthing out against them, try understanding the culture which spawned the product first. I'll leave it at that (no wonder the Japanese tend to get xenophobic at times when a "foreign culture" tries to impose their beliefs on them).
Btw, why's this in the 3rd party section? This is an officially sanctioned TF product, shouldn't this be in the main toy forum?
Posted by Sabrblade on February 13th, 2012 @ 10:53pm CST
She looks 15 because she is 15.fenrir72 wrote:As for the other anime themed figures who look under age......
Yes, yes it should.fenrir72 wrote:Btw, why's this in the 3rd party section? This is an officially sanctioned TF product, shouldn't this be in the main toy forum?
Posted by fenrir72 on February 14th, 2012 @ 12:28am CST
I didn't mean Minerva. I know she's 15 years old. In fact, I don't even see any fuss on how she was rendered. Kawaii (that's the Japanese style........old school at that). In fact, it cause me to laugh aloud when you commented "she's not bad..........just drawn that way" ........shades of what Jessica Rabbit told the old P.I.Eddie Valiant.(So we shouldn't prejudge hot looking curvaceous femme fatales......)
I meant the other anime figs posted as examples by Rated X. One of which I'm familiar.........Shakugan no Shana. Those gals were rendered that way ( I'm not bad just drawn that way again )and no right thinking person would equate owning such figs with encouraging to do harm to girls at that supposed age range (IIRC Shana more or less hovers around 15 to 18 yrs old but who's counting because I'm in it for the story and not obsessed with her age)
But I do not want to digress any further. I take my hat off to CM. Imagine translating from 2D to 3D a character with a fully functional transformation feature? Wow!
I can't wait for her and Ginrai to be released soon.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 14th, 2012 @ 12:36am CST
Quite so, quite so.fenrir72 wrote:In fact, it cause me to laugh aloud when you commented "she's not bad..........just drawn that way" ........shades of what Jessica Rabbit told the old P.I.Eddie Valiant.
This makes me wanna see them make figures for all the Godmasters, Headmaster Juniors, Marvel Headmasters, Marvel Powermasters, and Marvel Targetmasters.fenrir72 wrote:I can't wait for her and Ginrai to be released soon.
Posted by fenrir72 on February 14th, 2012 @ 12:40am CST
Unfortunately, amiami just emailed me today that they still haven't received a green light from CMs concerning the actual release date. This is going to be a loooooooong wait.
Posted by RhA on February 14th, 2012 @ 12:42am CST
Yeah, and this is coming form a guy with a pornstar in his sig.
Posted by fenrir72 on February 14th, 2012 @ 12:47am CST
@RhA
You hit it right on the head.
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on February 14th, 2012 @ 6:55am CST
Posted by Dead Metal on February 14th, 2012 @ 9:41am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 14th, 2012 @ 10:55am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 14th, 2012 @ 7:57pm CST
Ahem....
WE A FRIGGIN' TOY COLLECTORS AND WE WILL LOOK LIKE FREAKS TO ANYONE WHO DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T CARE, OR DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
So, if someone is judging you based on your hobby, a hobby that is not against the law and that is not hurting anyone, that person don't deserves your attention. Don't try to be friend or to seduce someone who hate who you are.
That's it, that's all.
Now let's discuss how great these new figures look, how the hell can we pay for these, and when they will come out. Also, where to buy the damn things.
Also, is Minerva (the original TF) is worth the money?
Posted by Blurrz on February 14th, 2012 @ 8:43pm CST
Posted by fenrir72 on February 14th, 2012 @ 10:03pm CST
Amen to that kimosabe!F*ck them for those who condemn!
Anyway, back to the subject itself. This would probably cost something around Y 8,000.00 or US$ 100 +
Availability.............no confirmation yet from amiami.
Posted by Blurrz on February 16th, 2012 @ 3:47am CST
Minelba (Minerva)
Ginrai (Prototype)
Seibertron.com - The Ultimate Transformers Resource!
Posted by Nemesis Destron on February 16th, 2012 @ 4:28am CST
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on February 16th, 2012 @ 5:19am CST
Nemesis Destron wrote:Not bad with these latest images. I will say they are a hell of a lot better than those lame ass sh*ts they have on Prime...'nuff said!
Well, these are $100 high-end action figures, those are almost completely non-poseable pack-in PVC statues.
Posted by joevill on February 16th, 2012 @ 7:23am CST
Posted by fenrir72 on February 16th, 2012 @ 8:05am CST
Posted by rpetras on February 16th, 2012 @ 8:46am CST
Of course if these guys put out a TFA version of bot-mode Sari, I'd get that!
Posted by fenrir72 on February 16th, 2012 @ 9:01am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 16th, 2012 @ 10:23am CST
Yeah, see? Aside from their heads, these guys have no organic components in the bodies. In this state, they are no longer organic "flesh creatures".
Posted by Blurrz on February 16th, 2012 @ 4:04pm CST
Posted by grimdragon2001 on February 17th, 2012 @ 7:25am CST
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Posted by Nemesis Destron on February 20th, 2012 @ 3:53am CST