Clearer Pictures and Listing for Wonderfest The Burning Fallen Crystal Version

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Huh, interesting. I hate the Burning repaint of The Fallen, and I don't like the green original colour of The Fallen, but I'm liking this Crystal Burning Fallen. I wish I could get my hands on one.

Yeah, this looks much better now we've finally got some decent pictures of this guy.

As a completist (and a madman), I was always going to get this guy anyway... but now I feel a lot better about it!

starfish wrote:Yeah, this looks much better now we've finally got some decent pictures of this guy.

As a completist (and a madman), I was always going to get this guy anyway... but now I feel a lot better about it!

As a "take it or leave it" completionist, this is probably going to be a pass, unless it's on clearance at BBTS.

Ah man! Just after I got the old burning repaint I'm really liking how the clear brings home the burning look. Japan always gets better stuff

Hmm...The Great Pumpkin does indeed look better with translucent orange plastic as opposed to safety-orange. Still...just meh :/

this is still a pass for me
and the clear orange parts would probably break since translucent plastic is softer than normal plastic

why couldn't Hasbro and Takara make a leader class version of the fallen instead of making battle ops bumblebee

Clear orange plastic for a "Burning" version? It seems like such a no-brainer one must wonder why Hasbro didn't think of this from the start. I never liked the solid orange of the regular Burning Fallen, but this is pretty classy. Either way since I own no figures of the Fallen and barring a leader class release probably never will, I'm not really that enthused, but it just goes to show that someone's got their thinking caps on right this time around.

- Sam

Samsonator wrote:Clear orange plastic for a "Burning" version? It seems like such a no-brainer one must wonder why Hasbro didn't think of this from the start. I never liked the solid orange of the regular Burning Fallen, but this is pretty classy. Either way since I own no figures of the Fallen and barring a leader class release probably never will, I'm not really that enthused, but it just goes to show that someone's got their thinking caps on right this time around.

- Sam

Probably because it wouldn't pass safety standards. Translucent plastic is more fragile. But, Takara is the company that put translucent knee joints in Superlink Fire Convoy.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Samsonator wrote:Clear orange plastic for a "Burning" version? It seems like such a no-brainer one must wonder why Hasbro didn't think of this from the start. I never liked the solid orange of the regular Burning Fallen, but this is pretty classy. Either way since I own no figures of the Fallen and barring a leader class release probably never will, I'm not really that enthused, but it just goes to show that someone's got their thinking caps on right this time around.

- Sam

Probably because it wouldn't pass safety standards. Translucent plastic is more fragile. But, Takara is the company that put translucent knee joints in Superlink Fire Convoy.

Translucent plastic being more fragile is just a myth. However, it is more expensive. Hasbro and expensive don't mix, remember guys?

Counterpunch wrote:This will be the same as the Target exclusive. Bet it.

Heh.

Still not sure if this is as good as sold for me. How long til wonderfest?

Oh, he actually has clear orange bits. It's nice, but I think I'll stick with my Zellers exclusive version.

I like the paint on the Alt. mode, and that's it. The figure w/ this color is...ugh. I'll stick with my forest green The Fallen.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Translucent plastic being more fragile is just a myth. However, it is more expensive. Hasbro and expensive don't mix, remember guys?

Exactly correct. So long as the transparent plastic and the opaque plastic in question are of the same basic type (i.e. have the same chemical formula), then they will have identical brittleness.

There are a lot of clear plastics out there that are very brittle (such as those used to make the 'jewel'-type CD cases, and there are many types of opaque 'bendy' plastics out there that can take a lot of stress before eventually cracking... so it's easy to see where the misconception comes from.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:Still not sure if this is as good as sold for me. How long til wonderfest?

February the 7th.

starfish wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Translucent plastic being more fragile is just a myth. However, it is more expensive. Hasbro and expensive don't mix, remember guys?

Exactly correct. So long as the transparent plastic and the opaque plastic in question are of the same basic type (i.e. have the same chemical formula), then they will have identical brittleness.

There are a lot of clear plastics out there that are very brittle (such as those used to make the 'jewel'-type CD cases, and there are many types of opaque 'bendy' plastics out there that can take a lot of stress before eventually cracking... so it's easy to see where the misconception comes from.

I do know the translucent plastic used on SL Fire Convoy is very brittle, while the regular release doesn't suffer the problem.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:I do know the translucent plastic used on SL Fire Convoy is very brittle, while the regular release doesn't suffer the problem.

Hmm, so it looks like they're using an entirely different type of plastic for the clear parts then. As I said, clear plastic will have the same properties ONLY IF it has an identical chemical composition to the opaque stuff.

Come to think of it, I have noticed this before. Remember that Hyper Hobby Magazine mail-away clear Legends Bumblebee that came out around the time of the 2007 movie? Well I noticed a crack in the plastic near the hinge joint where the hood swings up and down to form the robot chest. Fortunately the little guy is so easy to get a hold of on ebay... looks like I'd better get a spare copy of the new version (which came free with the ROTF DVD in Japan) just in case the same thing happens again, because that one seems to be a bit trickier to get a hold of.

starfish wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:I do know the translucent plastic used on SL Fire Convoy is very brittle, while the regular release doesn't suffer the problem.

Hmm, so it looks like they're using an entirely different type of plastic for the clear parts then. As I said, clear plastic will have the same properties ONLY IF it has an identical chemical composition to the opaque stuff.

Come to think of it, I have noticed this before. Remember that Hyper Hobby Magazine mail-away clear Legends Bumblebee that came out around the time of the 2007 movie? Well I noticed a crack in the plastic near the hinge joint where the hood swings up and down to form the robot chest. Fortunately the little guy is so easy to get a hold of on ebay... looks like I'd better get a spare copy of the new version (which came free with the ROTF DVD in Japan) just in case the same thing happens again, because that one seems to be a bit trickier to get a hold of.

I haven't even bothered with the ROTF Tsutaya version yet. And my Hyper Hobby Scanning version is still mint in bag, in the opened box. I probably won't even bother taking it out.

The SL Fire Convoys seem to use a milky, swirly plastic, which looks sort of the same as this. The regular Superlink stuff is rock hard, but Fire Convoy is crazy brittle.