Clearer Color Images of Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee and Spike
Thursday, May 15th, 2014 11:28AM CDT
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Posted by wilcosu35 on May 15th, 2014 @ 11:34am CDT
Posted by reysito on May 15th, 2014 @ 12:35pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on May 15th, 2014 @ 12:46pm CDT
Posted by Wh33l Jck on May 15th, 2014 @ 12:53pm CDT
Takara likes to use a lot of paint with their MP's and there are a lot of panels here, I just worry there is going to be a lot of paint chipping after the first few transformations...
I wish the hubcap on his back sat a little further down his back, more like the cartoon...
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 15th, 2014 @ 12:56pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Sheesh, the scale next to M-10 is horrible. In the cartoon, Bumblebee reaches about to Primes groin area. Here he reaches his knees
Let's focus on Robot Mode scale only, as that seems to be the main focus here. Pulling out the official Scale Guide reveals that MP Bumblebee is indeed scale with Optimus Prime, coming to between the knees and groin.
Of course, given the liberties the cartoon has taken scale is moot.
Posted by Convoy on May 15th, 2014 @ 1:04pm CDT
What they need to do is slap a big fat rubsign on that thing so you know it's official!
Posted by Cyberpath on May 15th, 2014 @ 1:19pm CDT
When I think of height comparison between Optimus Prime and 'Bee this is generally the first scene that comes to mind:
Though I'm sure that there may be scenes that show otherwise give or take.
Posted by same138 on May 15th, 2014 @ 1:40pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Sheesh, the scale next to M-10 is horrible. In the cartoon, Bumblebee reaches about to Primes groin area. Here he reaches his knees. And the Lamborghini Countach is a fairly small car, so the VW alt mode is off scale as well. This Bumblebee would probally work better with classics figures and would scale nicely next to Toyworld Orion. If Michael Bay didnt make me hate Bumblebee so much, I might have bought this. But Im so sick of that character, I think Ill just stick with Art Feather Bumblebee.
I was intrigued by your comment about the car sizes so did a quick search and came up with 163 inches for the Lambo and 160.5 for the Beetle, 2.5 inches of a difference. A quick cut and paste of Alt mode 'Bee in the image with the Countach to line them up a little better shows a lot more than a scaled down 2.5".
I still want him though, just 'cause he's a Beetle again at last.
Posted by Diem on May 15th, 2014 @ 1:43pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on May 15th, 2014 @ 2:58pm CDT
Diem wrote:This is all but guaranteed to get a US version, so I can hold out for that.
If this does indeed get an American release, would it be ironic that this is the only Bumblebee that'll probably not shelfwarm?
Posted by craggy on May 15th, 2014 @ 3:25pm CDT
Loving it. Though I am in agreement that the rotating panel on the roof/chest is a bit too much for what it's worth.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 15th, 2014 @ 4:01pm CDT
Posted by autobot1979 on May 15th, 2014 @ 6:40pm CDT
Posted by Hammer on May 15th, 2014 @ 8:03pm CDT
Convoy wrote:I don't know why they made a flipping insignia for the roof if they're just going to tampograph another on the hood anyway.
What they need to do is slap a big fat rubsign on that thing so you know it's official!
So both modes are cartoon accurate
Posted by Convoy on May 15th, 2014 @ 9:17pm CDT
Hammer wrote:
So both modes are cartoon accurate
I'd buy that explanation if it didn't have the insignia on the foot in bot-mode. They might as well have made the hood panel flippable.
Where else am I supposed to complain?
I actually love it and the Exo-suit. I'll import it though it may show up in America. I think the quote about VW/Porche not supporting war machines may only be applicable to the first and subsequent live action movie(s).
Posted by Sabrblade on May 15th, 2014 @ 9:22pm CDT
It actually originated from back when Binaltech/Alternators was going on beginning back in 2003.Convoy wrote:I think the quote about VW/Porche not supporting war machines may only be applicable to the first and subsequent live action movie(s).
Posted by Convoy on May 15th, 2014 @ 9:39pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It actually originated from back when Binaltech/Alternators was going on beginning back in 2003.Convoy wrote:I think the quote about VW/Porche not supporting war machines may only be applicable to the first and subsequent live action movie(s).
I guess I forgot it went that far back. I do remember the weapon kerfuffle between the US and JP release of the Honda mold for BT/ALT. (Honda Japan was cool with guns and Honda US was all like, 'um...gun? we're not sure about that.')
Posted by TimothyR on May 16th, 2014 @ 6:06am CDT
and.. if you check out the ultimate scale chart.. you'll see that prime and bumblebee are in perfect scale to each other... remember.. bumblebee wasn't all that much larger than the humans on the show.
so.. everyone who is whining about scale, knock it off.. why would you expect anything besides cartoon scale? i don't need my MASTERPIECE bumblebee being the same size as prowl and sideswipe, that's just silly.
Posted by fenrir72 on May 16th, 2014 @ 7:46am CDT
Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on May 16th, 2014 @ 8:24am CDT
TimothyR wrote:G1 cartoon accurate.. i don't see any problem with scale.. as it's been pointed out.. though the real world vehicles were similar.. they WEREN'T on the show..
and.. if you check out the ultimate scale chart.. you'll see that prime and bumblebee are in perfect scale to each other... remember.. bumblebee wasn't all that much larger than the humans on the show.
so.. everyone who is whining about scale, knock it off.. why would you expect anything besides cartoon scale? i don't need my MASTERPIECE bumblebee being the same size as prowl and sideswipe, that's just silly.
IF you recall from earlier discussions, some people who complain about the toys are just trying to convince themselves they don't want the toy.
Posted by Stormrider on May 16th, 2014 @ 9:08am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:Sheesh, the scale next to M-10 is horrible. In the cartoon, Bumblebee reaches about to Primes groin area. Here he reaches his knees
Let's focus on Robot Mode scale only, as that seems to be the main focus here. Pulling out the official Scale Guide reveals that MP Bumblebee is indeed scale with Optimus Prime, coming to between the knees and groin.
Of course, given the liberties the cartoon has taken scale is moot.
I know that Takara is going to great lengths to scale the robot modes with MP10, but Bee just looks smaller than I imagined him in my head. It looks like his head is at MP10's knee and I was expecting his height to be closer to MP10's mid thigh. It's not a deal breaker, but I am sure there will be an initial shock when I have him in hand just like when I lined MP Sideswipe to MP10 initially.
On the plus side, I like the colors and design of the figure. Works well and I am sure he will be fun to pose and play with.
Where does the spare tire go in alt mode?
Posted by Rated X on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:46am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 10:58am CDT
Nnnnnnno, cuz, it came from Sunbow's production archives with the rest of the original character models that Jim Sorensen and Bill Forster put together for Ark books.Rated X wrote:For everybody who keeps bringing up that so called "official scale chart" wasnt it created years later in the 90s to squash arguements like this one ?
Companies don't make new production materials for shows they've halted production on years earlier.
And, really, to make such a chart years after the fact just to quench silly fandom arguments seems really petty for a professional television production company to really give a darn about.
Also, 1984 cartoon, dude.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2014 @ 11:35am CDT
Posted by skynet1O1 on May 16th, 2014 @ 11:39am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on May 17th, 2014 @ 10:56pm CDT
skynet1O1 wrote:Well I think the scale will be fine. All I need is for the scale to be more accurate in vehicle mode then in bot mode. But anyways, I will be buying this guy as well as UM. And isn't Wheeljack released already!
This August 2014 kimosabe.
If this was already mentioned............my bad but just realized this. Wheeljack and BB are the first 2 transformers to ever appear in TV. Remember in MTMTE episode 1? Both buddies were busy scrounging for energy resources before the Ark's launch. Energy conductors iirc correctly. Now both guys are getting a release one after the other.
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2014 @ 11:26pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on May 17th, 2014 @ 11:50pm CDT
And, well based on the fiction, they also had the mass shifting doohickey. That being the case, Soundwave and the Seekers are way off scale in their alternate modes.
Posted by Dead Metal on May 18th, 2014 @ 3:46am CDT
Burn wrote:Curious ... if scale is such an issue, and it's clear that the robot mode is in scale which stuffs up the vehicle mode scale ... and if that is such an issue, then you're obviously going to be displaying him in vehicle mode, then why not go out and track down a scale model car and just slap an Autobot logo onto it?
I've brought that up to those people before, they just get angry.
I love this, it looks great in colour, plus the scale is perfect. Just a little miffed about the back wheel thingy being all yellow instead of black for the tire part.
Posted by shajaki on May 18th, 2014 @ 10:21am CDT
no seriously, people would die.
Posted by robotmel on May 19th, 2014 @ 9:51am CDT
shajaki wrote:we could make a deadly drinking game based on the word "scale" in this thread.
no seriously, people would die.
Mines a pint!!
Posted by robotmel on May 21st, 2014 @ 3:59am CDT
Browsing the newer magazine scans of the MP Bumblebee, Ive just spotted the shoulders of this little bug and they appear to be ball jointed just like his Classics version!
I guess being such a small sized figure they felt ratchet shoulders where not necessary, but still....
Posted by Stormrider on May 21st, 2014 @ 7:28am CDT
robotmel wrote::-?
Browsing the newer magazine scans of the MP Bumblebee, Ive just spotted the shoulders of this little bug and they appear to be ball jointed just like his Classics version!
I guess being such a small sized figure they felt ratchet shoulders where not necessary, but still....
I am not too concerned with the ball joints. The MP Datsuns have ball jointed shoulders as well.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 21st, 2014 @ 7:33am CDT
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/hires-scans-from-generations-2014-volume-1-mp-wheeljack-bumblebee-ultra-magnus-star-saber/30262/robotmel wrote::-?
Browsing the newer magazine scans of the MP Bumblebee, Ive just spotted the shoulders of this little bug and they appear to be ball jointed just like his Classics version!
I guess being such a small sized figure they felt ratchet shoulders where not necessary, but still....
Posted by fenrir72 on May 21st, 2014 @ 7:55pm CDT
Sharp eye kimosabe.
Hopefully the ball joints won't wear off too easily.
Posted by shajaki on May 21st, 2014 @ 10:06pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on May 22nd, 2014 @ 3:19am CDT
Posted by robotmel on May 22nd, 2014 @ 10:25am CDT
>:oP
As it happens, I saw this image elsewhere, so thats where I ripped it from. Not sure why you have gone around everyones recent posts, posting the Seibertron link to the same info?
Ah well, I guess its all for the love of Transformers!
Posted by Stormrider on May 27th, 2014 @ 12:49pm CDT
Posted by Dead Metal on May 28th, 2014 @ 3:30am CDT
Stormrider wrote:Does anyone have more info about the spare tire on his backpack? The tire can be seen in some bot images but not all. And has anyone seen the spare tire in alt mode?
It's removable.
Yes we have, the first alt-mode pic had it, remember the argument it caused?
Posted by Cyberpath on May 29th, 2014 @ 4:46am CDT
Re-post from Hi-Res Figure King 196 Scans - 30 Years of Transformers
And from Ami Ami:
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Posted by Optimizzy on June 19th, 2014 @ 9:24am CDT
Um, Daniel's face needs more paint. He looks kinda scary.
Posted by Siger on June 19th, 2014 @ 9:40am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on June 19th, 2014 @ 10:27am CDT
Posted by padfoo on June 19th, 2014 @ 10:58am CDT
Posted by kirbenvost on June 19th, 2014 @ 10:59am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on June 19th, 2014 @ 11:07am CDT
padfoo wrote:It looks good, but does not scream masterpiece, I think there are too many hallow parts. The human figures are also lacking a lot of detail, I know they are small, but the Masterpiece branding screams for more detail. I am still going to get this but I am not as excited as I should be.
What detail do you want, KissPlayer detail for the human figures? Trouble is, the figures are waaaaaaaay smaller than the KissPlayer figs so I wonder what detail do you expect? Even Arkeville in MP Starscream wasn't that detailed.