C-001 Super Fire Convoy 2014 Reissue

Va'al wrote:Unless it's just foal play on the advertisers' behalf.

Arctorro wrote:

Va'al wrote:Unless it's just foal play on the advertisers' behalf.

Just when I think you can't possibly come up with any more

Va'al wrote:

Arctorro wrote:

Va'al wrote:Unless it's just foal play on the advertisers' behalf.

Just when I think you can't possibly come up with any more

Hay, when you gotta pun you gotta pun.

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Va'al wrote:

Arctorro wrote:

Va'al wrote:Unless it's just foal play on the advertisers' behalf.

Just when I think you can't possibly come up with any more

Hay, when you gotta pun you gotta pun.

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RhA wrote:Stop it, you're beating a dead horse.

ZINGER

Mindmaster wrote:God, save me from these terrible puns...

Va'al wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:God, save me from these terrible puns...

Neigh.

Va'al wrote:

Arctorro wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:God, save me from these terrible puns...

Neigh.

You walked right into that one Mindmaster

Va'al wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:God, save me from these terrible puns...

Neigh.

RAcast wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:God, save me from these terrible puns...

Neigh.

I laughed much harder than I should have!

Now then...I would honestly love to pick up RID Optimus and UM, but that $150 price tag turns me off...I guess it's the Takara release though, eh?

DecepticonFinishline wrote:So, I suppose this means that they have no plans of taking RiD Optimus' results in the Masterpiece poll into account..

I wanted Masterpiece RiD Prime the most...

Va'al wrote:We were just horsing around with puns.

Mindmaster wrote:

Va'al wrote:We were just horsing around with puns.

Good God, they're endless in the hands of this man...

Metrosuplex wrote:By the sounds of incessant punning, I take it most of you just don't care about this news.

Is this Takara's response? Are they noticing 3rd Parties and reacting with more reprints of old toys? $150. Nice. They're making 3rd Party toys more and more affordable with these prices. Bravo. Excellent strategy.

This is a great gem to pull out and reprint... but $150???

Va'al wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Va'al wrote:We were just horsing around with puns.

Good God, they're endless in the hands of this man...

Alas, I'm foaling no one now. Used the same ones a couple of times.

Dead Metal wrote:What Matrix?

Dead Metal wrote:And fit inside chest implies that it's removable, which leaves Cybertron, MPs, G1, and THS Primes.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Va'al wrote:We were just horsing around with puns.

Good God, they're endless in the hands of this man...

Alas, I'm foaling no one now. Used the same ones a couple of times.

So I guess the puns can all go to the glue factory?

Sabrblade wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:What Matrix?

This Matrix.

Dead Metal wrote:And fit inside chest implies that it's removable, which leaves Cybertron, MPs, G1, and THS Primes.

Not unless it's speaking of the character rather than the toy, since I doubt the toy has led battles against Decepticons for millions of years.

It says that he is the "ultimate Autobot" because of his Matrix. Having a Matrix isn't really anything that special for an Optimus toy, but it is special from a fictional perspective, implying that it's the character, rather than the toy, who is the "ultimate Autobot" because of his Matrix.

The fact that it "fits" in him is a sign that he is meant to have it and meant to be Autobot leader, almost something like a nod to the G1 movie in which the Matrix didn't quite fit inside Ultra Magnus, as evidenced by his having to momentarily readjust it when he put it into his chest.

For millions of years, noble Optimus Prime has led the Autobots in their war against the tyranny of Megatron and his evil Decepticons. His unwavering courage in the face of centuries of desperate battle is an inspiration to his comrades. He is an unstoppable warrior and a flawless leader; pushing ahead through the darkest times in the history of Cybertron. He remains unbowed, unbroken and always committed to victory.

The leader of the Autobots is back and more unstoppable than ever! Everyone will know that this mighty Year of the Horse Optimus Prime figure is the ultimate Autobot, because the Matrix of Leadership fits in his chest. He'll shred his Decepticon enemies with his Energon axe in robot mode, and flatten them in truck mode! Convert his trailer to a battle station with a maintenance dock, where you can store his ion cannon and Energon axe. Your Transformers adventures will be off the hook with this Optimus Prime figure!

Va'al wrote:...you sure? It sounds like it's talking about the toy to me. In the second part at least, the first part is definitely the character.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:What Matrix?

This Matrix.

Dead Metal wrote:And fit inside chest implies that it's removable, which leaves Cybertron, MPs, G1, and THS Primes.

Not unless it's speaking of the character rather than the toy, since I doubt the toy has led battles against Decepticons for millions of years.

It says that he is the "ultimate Autobot" because of his Matrix. Having a Matrix isn't really anything that special for an Optimus toy, but it is special from a fictional perspective, implying that it's the character, rather than the toy, who is the "ultimate Autobot" because of his Matrix.

The fact that it "fits" in him is a sign that he is meant to have it and meant to be Autobot leader, almost something like a nod to the G1 movie in which the Matrix didn't quite fit inside Ultra Magnus, as evidenced by his having to momentarily readjust it when he put it into his chest.

Ketchup wrote:I think that the 'Year of the Horse' OP and this Super Fire Convoy reissue are two distinct items. BBTS has Super Fire Convoy listed as a Takara reissue and the price is consistent with it being a Takara item. TRU.ca wouldn't be carrying a Takara reissue.

Ketchup wrote:I think that the 'Year of the Horse' OP and this Super Fire Convoy reissue are two distinct items. BBTS has Super Fire Convoy listed as a Takara reissue and the price is consistent with it being a Takara item. TRU.ca wouldn't be carrying a Takara reissue.

Bowspearer wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:By the sounds of incessant punning, I take it most of you just don't care about this news.

Is this Takara's response? Are they noticing 3rd Parties and reacting with more reprints of old toys? $150. Nice. They're making 3rd Party toys more and more affordable with these prices. Bravo. Excellent strategy.

This is a great gem to pull out and reprint... but $150???

You do understand that that's the import pricing though right? Honestly, this reminds me of people who whine like mad over paying $80+ for the MP Autobot cars from BBTS when they could pay just over half that preordering from a Japanese retailer (such as HLJ - which is even conveniently located to the right sidebar). Seriously whilst being annoyed over con exclusive inflation is reasonable, I just shake my head at people complaining over the fruits of their own lack of proactivity.

Metrosuplex wrote:So you're saying that $150 import = $80 import. Got it.

How much you pullin' in? I'm just curious if I should imagine an Aspen-regular or a negative-credit preppy when I read such comments.

Bowspearer wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:So you're saying that $150 import = $80 import. Got it.

How much you pullin' in? I'm just curious if I should imagine an Aspen-regular or a negative-credit preppy when I read such comments.

You're not getting it at all. Let me put it this way. Take Masterpiece Prowl for example. Generally what happens is that someone like BBTS will either import from a Japanese retailer or from a Japanese wholesaler, whereby they're paying not only for the item cost, but for freight - all of that gets factored into their markups, and presuming there's no price gouging, then you're paying a markup on quite possibly Japanese retail and a markup on shipping.


Let's compare that to buying from a Japanese online retailer - in this case HLJ.

In the case of Masterpiece Prowl (and this is all in USD), the preorder price from HLJ was $47.67 and the retail price from them is listed at $59.58 - plus whatever the shipping is.

BBTS want $79.99 for it on preorder plus whatever the shipping is.

In other words, if you by from an international importer rather than a local retailer (which is what HLJ is in the case of Japanese releases), then you're going to pay way more for it than if you'd gone for the local retailer option had had them ship it internationally to you.

It's the same deal here- anyone forking out BBTS prices on that rather than dealing with a Japanese online store, only has themselves to blame and has no right to complain about high prices which they've chosen to pay.

Bowspearer wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:So you're saying that $150 import = $80 import. Got it.

How much you pullin' in? I'm just curious if I should imagine an Aspen-regular or a negative-credit preppy when I read such comments.

You're not getting it at all. Let me put it this way. Take Masterpiece Prowl for example. Generally what happens is that someone like BBTS will either import from a Japanese retailer or from a Japanese wholesaler, whereby they're paying not only for the item cost, but for freight - all of that gets factored into their markups, and presuming there's no price gouging, then you're paying a markup on quite possibly Japanese retail and a markup on shipping.


Let's compare that to buying from a Japanese online retailer - in this case HLJ.

In the case of Masterpiece Prowl (and this is all in USD), the preorder price from HLJ was $47.67 and the retail price from them is listed at $59.58 - plus whatever the shipping is.

BBTS want $79.99 for it on preorder plus whatever the shipping is.

In other words, if you by from an international importer rather than a local retailer (which is what HLJ is in the case of Japanese releases), then you're going to pay way more for it than if you'd gone for the local retailer option had had them ship it internationally to you.

It's the same deal here- anyone forking out BBTS prices on that rather than dealing with a Japanese online store, only has themselves to blame and has no right to complain about high prices which they've chosen to pay.

Sparkimus Prime wrote:I don't know if it's your intention to shame others who either couldn't order from Japanese sites fast enough, or simply want to use a local distributor. If it is, i would recommend you reevaluate your attitude. I come to this site for information, not to feel ashamed.

Metrosuplex wrote:By the sounds of incessant punning, I take it most of you just don't care about this news.

Is this Takara's response? Are they noticing 3rd Parties and reacting with more reprints of old toys? $150. Nice. They're making 3rd Party toys more and more affordable with these prices. Bravo. Excellent strategy.

This is a great gem to pull out and reprint... but $150???

Metrosuplex wrote:Anyway, your point is completely valid and well-taken; I was just complaining about the $150 price tag being high in general. For $150, I'd honestly prefer the 3rd Party Quake Wave. I don't mind reissues, but $150 for a reissue is too high for my tastes. At least the MPs are new, modern molds. Right?

noctorro wrote:Personally, I don't see a need for a Prime reissue, which prime ever.

Bowspearer wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:Anyway, your point is completely valid and well-taken; I was just complaining about the $150 price tag being high in general. For $150, I'd honestly prefer the 3rd Party Quake Wave. I don't mind reissues, but $150 for a reissue is too high for my tastes. At least the MPs are new, modern molds. Right?

Is $150 that high though? You cite Takara charging those prices as justifications for Quakewave, but then look at for example, Hercules which is at the $600 mark?

Bowspearer wrote:

Sparkimus Prime wrote:I don't know if it's your intention to shame others who either couldn't order from Japanese sites fast enough, or simply want to use a local distributor. If it is, i would recommend you reevaluate your attitude. I come to this site for information, not to feel ashamed.

Alternately, here's a thought - next time, read the entire exchange before jumping to conclusions.

If you'd bothered to actually do that, you would have realised that what I said was in response to this:

Metrosuplex wrote:By the sounds of incessant punning, I take it most of you just don't care about this news.

Is this Takara's response? Are they noticing 3rd Parties and reacting with more reprints of old toys? $150. Nice. They're making 3rd Party toys more and more affordable with these prices. Bravo. Excellent strategy.

This is a great gem to pull out and reprint... but $150???

In other words my response was to someone ignorantly accusing Takara of trying to rip people off, because they were choosing to pay import pricing rather than tracking something down through an online retailer local to that product and paying retail for it.

Next time read an exchange in its entirety before jumping to conclusions - all you've done here is make yourself look foolish.

RAcast wrote:

Bowspearer wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:Anyway, your point is completely valid and well-taken; I was just complaining about the $150 price tag being high in general. For $150, I'd honestly prefer the 3rd Party Quake Wave. I don't mind reissues, but $150 for a reissue is too high for my tastes. At least the MPs are new, modern molds. Right?

Is $150 that high though? You cite Takara charging those prices as justifications for Quakewave, but then look at for example, Hercules which is at the $600 mark?

Hercules is a laughably bad example in this case, y'know? Each figure is about $100, and they combine. So not only are you getting six very good figures, you're getting a positively MONSTROUSLY HUGE Devastator.

Sparkimus Prime wrote:

Bowspearer wrote:

Sparkimus Prime wrote:I don't know if it's your intention to shame others who either couldn't order from Japanese sites fast enough, or simply want to use a local distributor. If it is, i would recommend you reevaluate your attitude. I come to this site for information, not to feel ashamed.

Alternately, here's a thought - next time, read the entire exchange before jumping to conclusions.

If you'd bothered to actually do that, you would have realised that what I said was in response to this:

Metrosuplex wrote:By the sounds of incessant punning, I take it most of you just don't care about this news.

Is this Takara's response? Are they noticing 3rd Parties and reacting with more reprints of old toys? $150. Nice. They're making 3rd Party toys more and more affordable with these prices. Bravo. Excellent strategy.

This is a great gem to pull out and reprint... but $150???

In other words my response was to someone ignorantly accusing Takara of trying to rip people off, because they were choosing to pay import pricing rather than tracking something down through an online retailer local to that product and paying retail for it.

Next time read an exchange in its entirety before jumping to conclusions - all you've done here is make yourself look foolish.

I did in fact read the whole exchange, and it still came across as conceited on your part regarding importing. I did not insult you, I simply wanted you to evaluate how you came across, and maybe choose your words in a more positive way. Maybe next time actually read constructive criticism, and not continue to antagonize people.