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Posted by Sabrblade on April 23rd, 2010 @ 5:48pm CDT
Is he still this guy:
Or is he this guy now:
Posted by Blurrz on April 23rd, 2010 @ 5:52pm CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on April 23rd, 2010 @ 6:21pm CDT
(yes, I know Volfogg would need some purple too...)
Posted by LiKwid on April 23rd, 2010 @ 6:35pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:Like I'd know.... I'm just trying to make sure this isn't another FunPub joke on us.
Us? LoL j/k I managed to come in a little late on the last joke
Posted by Swiftpaw on April 23rd, 2010 @ 10:48pm CDT
It makes more sense than hacking a totally new name on him, at least.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 23rd, 2010 @ 10:51pm CDT
Um, what? No, they weren't drones (at least there was indication that they were).Swiftpaw wrote:even though technically those limb robots were just drones controlled by the leader, iirc right.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 24th, 2010 @ 9:19am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Um, what? No, they weren't drones (at least there was indication that they were).Swiftpaw wrote:even though technically those limb robots were just drones controlled by the leader, iirc right.
I did some checking and, like Battle Gaia, Guard City was never shown in his individual components, meaning he was in his combined form the entire time, occasionally switching his limbs around.
Not like it matters, really. The Japanese continuity is separate from the US one and what's in a name?
Posted by Diem on April 24th, 2010 @ 9:22am CDT
(drumroll)
The G2 version of Movieverse Barricade!
Nah, that's stupid.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 24th, 2010 @ 9:39am CDT
On the other hand, the whole fiction of Operation Combination was very shallow in its own right, with very little of any characterization happening to the players of the story. Fire Chief and Great Cannon get no more persona than their respecitve teammates do.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Um, what? No, they weren't drones (at least there was indication that they were).Swiftpaw wrote:even though technically those limb robots were just drones controlled by the leader, iirc right.
I did some checking and, like Battle Gaia, Guard City was never shown in his individual components, meaning he was in his combined form the entire time, occasionally switching his limbs around.
Not like it matters, really. The Japanese continuity is separate from the US one and what's in a name?
Though, this is also kinda bordering on the idea that the torsos are the dominant minds of the gestalt, when there are other theories on the combined form's mind being an amalgam of the minds of its components, or an entirely new mind unlocked and awakened by the combination of its components.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 24th, 2010 @ 9:44am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Though, this is also kinda bordering on the idea that the torsos are the dominant minds of the gestalt, when there are other theories on the combined form's mind being an amalgam of the minds of its components, or an entirely new mind unlocked and awakened by the combination of its components.
In short:
New unlocked mind: G1 cartoon
Amalgam: Universe Profiles and toy Tech Specs
Torso dominant: RiD
Posted by Sabrblade on April 24th, 2010 @ 12:10pm CDT
Technically both Rapid Run and Railspike form the torso of Rail Racer. One just formed the stomach while the other formed the giant mono-manboob.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Torso dominant: RiD
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 24th, 2010 @ 12:49pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Technically both Rapid Run and Railspike form the torso of Rail Racer. One just formed the stomach while the other formed the giant mono-manboob.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Torso dominant: RiD
Or whoever's on top...
*hides*
Posted by Bumblevivisector on April 24th, 2010 @ 1:28pm CDT
That could've been intended as the next step in Gestallt evolution, skirting the problem of the big bots' brains being screwed up from having their thoughts being limited to what their components could agree on. (I don't see the new unlocked mind theory from the cartoon and amalgam mind theory from the comics/specs as being mutually exclusive). But that could've also been something unique to LioKaiser, since the Breastmasters were the only team that could apparently swap out component teammates as long as there were a total of 6; granted we only know it applied to the left arm/back-half, which apparently could've been Deathcobra. Alas, poor Hellbat got replaced anyway in the KO sets by HellDealer, or DoubleBatter, whatever you call him. Though I bet if they ever ran into the Rescue Force...
And speaking of swapping guys around, was it ever explained how the minds of the Multiforce and Energon double-gestallts worked? Was it just, as the last guy said, whoever happened to be on top? And for that matter, the leaders seemed to be the only sentient parts of the 3 Energon gestallt teams, but we'll never know because no one cared anymore by the time they were introduced in the show.
Oh, and this leader/head theory also applied to the JBW gestallts, but I guess it technically got started with God Ginrai, and carried over to Victory Saber, even if they're more cases of a lieutenant becoming armor for the leader.
Posted by Rated X on April 24th, 2010 @ 2:20pm CDT
Without disrespecting anyone, I personally believe excercising a copyright against someone trying to pay homage is pathetic...
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 24th, 2010 @ 2:26pm CDT
Rated X wrote:So much silly politics over names that havent been heard for 20 years.
Without disrespecting anyone, I personally believe excercising a copyright against someone trying to pay homage is pathetic...
Not 20, more like 6 years. It was last used for a Micromaster Defensor component from 2004, hence my great surprise.
Posted by Rated X on April 24th, 2010 @ 2:50pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:So much silly politics over names that havent been heard for 20 years.
Without disrespecting anyone, I personally believe excercising a copyright against someone trying to pay homage is pathetic...
Not 20, more like 6 years. It was last used for a Micromaster Defensor component from 2004, hence my great surprise.
Even then, there should be some kind of code of honor that if your idea didnt make big bucks back in the days, dont sue someone else for using it when its paying homage at an event created to glorify the originals.
Posted by Flashwave on April 25th, 2010 @ 3:08pm CDT
Bumblevivisector wrote:
And speaking of swapping guys around, was it ever explained how the minds of the Multiforce and Energon double-gestallts worked? Was it just, as the last guy said, whoever happened to be on top? And for that matter, the leaders seemed to be the only sentient parts of the 3 Energon gestallt teams, but we'll never know because no one cared anymore by the time they were introduced in the show.
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No, I don't bleive it was, though the naming always folowed Powerlinx Guy on top. Though let's be honest, and not to be factionist here, but the autobots are generally more organized in such things than were the cons. With Powerlinx, you had two minds generally in agreeance of "Shoot the Decepticon!" The Gestalts, Defensor was united on the grounds of doing no harm, and Computron was a group of scientists. The Deceptiocns on the other hand, had a lot more problems with
"Shoot him!"
"NO SHpoot him!"
"Shoot the Autobot fro the glory of Megatron"
"Shoot Starscream for the Glory of Megatron!"
"Look a Bunny!"
ANd for the Piranhacons:
"Would somebody tell me who to shoot already!"
The three man teams also beg the qustion too, what of Magnaboss? and Magmatron was three unit to a single mind, but wasn't there another one from BW/BM?
Me, I just cheated and had Glavatron or someone blow the combiner proraming out of Vector Sigma and clear to Kigdom Come. It doesn't make a lot ofsense I know, but it gets me around the fact that nome of the Combiner Homgaes cna combine anymore. We're 3/5 of the way through Bruticus (and actually 4/5 finished if you repaint BlazeMAster as Vortex, and I'm using the U1.0 Skywarp as Blastoff) The repaint of Movie Dirge just needs a few touch ups and there's Slingshot to go with Silverbolt, We got Drag Strip (well, some of you do...) and Dead End, There's Botcon Razorclaw... Shall I go on?
Posted by Delicon on April 25th, 2010 @ 3:42pm CDT