BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap
Thursday, April 16th, 2015 1:09PM CDT
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As Seibertron native JelZe GoldRabbit has pointed out for fellow users Botcon has finally given us some official shots of "The Muscle" Battletrap, the second figure they've revealed so far from the 2015 set. Originally in G1 as a "Duocon", he is a repaint of Generations Springer with a brand new noggin and many think he's as faithful as can be having gone this route. Scroll down to see the pics, and as a follow up to our Packrat Gallery stay tuned for the exclusive Seibertron Gallery of this fella that's in the works! (Thanks again Pete Sinclair!)
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Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676065)
Posted by RhA on April 16th, 2015 @ 1:13pm CDT
Posted by RhA on April 16th, 2015 @ 1:13pm CDT
I like it.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676071)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 1:39pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 1:39pm CDT
worth the weight
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676080)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on April 16th, 2015 @ 1:59pm CDT
But FunPub is notorious for making "promises" and then backpedaling... I wouldn't be bothered if this happened once in a blue moon, but it's very consistant. And for a company that has been putting on TWO conventions for over a decade, this is ridiculous... if you said you're going to do a weekly reveal, do a weekly reveal. If you can't commit to that then do surprise reveals. We're already 2 days "late" because of an Easter egg gimmick that takes 7 minutes to film, a few minutes to add text and music to, and a few more to upload. If you can't make a simple video, then just upload the stock photos...
My problem with them is not that I don't get to see a figure right away (I couldn't care less about that), but more of their awful business practices. Somebody really needs to kick Pete out of the social media chair... he's always saying "this will happen then" and then provides some excuse as to why they couldn't deliver on time. It's exhausting. They're almost as bad as Glenn... at least he tried
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on April 16th, 2015 @ 1:59pm CDT
gothsaurus wrote:Agreed. People get sick.Family issues.
That stuff always comes first. We shouldn't get venomous without knowing what happened.
After all, it's just a buncha toys.
Overuse of icons! Woohoo.
But FunPub is notorious for making "promises" and then backpedaling... I wouldn't be bothered if this happened once in a blue moon, but it's very consistant. And for a company that has been putting on TWO conventions for over a decade, this is ridiculous... if you said you're going to do a weekly reveal, do a weekly reveal. If you can't commit to that then do surprise reveals. We're already 2 days "late" because of an Easter egg gimmick that takes 7 minutes to film, a few minutes to add text and music to, and a few more to upload. If you can't make a simple video, then just upload the stock photos...
My problem with them is not that I don't get to see a figure right away (I couldn't care less about that), but more of their awful business practices. Somebody really needs to kick Pete out of the social media chair... he's always saying "this will happen then" and then provides some excuse as to why they couldn't deliver on time. It's exhausting. They're almost as bad as Glenn... at least he tried
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676085)
Posted by Deadput on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:14pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:14pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:worth the weight
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676086)
Posted by shockblast2 on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:15pm CDT
Posted by shockblast2 on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:15pm CDT
Someone on the news crew wrote this article?
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676087)
Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:15pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:15pm CDT
Ummmm....
Shouldnt we be getting the new reveal instead of pics of last weeks reveal ?
I was under the impression that sll 5 "egg" videos were filmed at once and would be released every week ?
Shouldnt we be getting the new reveal instead of pics of last weeks reveal ?
I was under the impression that sll 5 "egg" videos were filmed at once and would be released every week ?
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676088)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:18pm CDT
Yes, and believe it or not, it was FunPub that was (almost a week) late with putting up Battletrap's page. Trust me, I checked.
Still, better late than never
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:18pm CDT
shockblast2 wrote:Someone on the news crew wrote this article?
Yes, and believe it or not, it was FunPub that was (almost a week) late with putting up Battletrap's page. Trust me, I checked.
Still, better late than never
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676090)
Posted by shajaki on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:20pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:20pm CDT
Since it's news, yeah it was written up as news. That's shocking? So far all there is (of Battletrap) is our gallery teaser and screencaps of the video. Not sure why anyone would complain about this.shockblast2 wrote:Someone on the news crew wrote this article?
Can't control how and when FunPub releases things. But there's *supposedly* a new reveal video slated for today.Rated X wrote:Shouldn't we be getting the new reveal instead of pics of last weeks reveal ?
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676093)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:28pm CDT
I just hope they don't release it during Prime Time, I'm not staying up till 3 am CET.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:28pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Can't control how and when FunPub releases things. But there's *supposedly* a new reveal video slated for today.Rated X wrote:Shouldn't we be getting the new reveal instead of pics of last weeks reveal ?
I just hope they don't release it during Prime Time, I'm not staying up till 3 am CET.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676095)
Posted by Va'al on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:31pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:31pm CDT
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I would prefer if news staff were not condescended or criticised for doing their job, even if mistakes can happen (which is not the case this time). Thank you.
I would prefer if news staff were not condescended or criticised for doing their job, even if mistakes can happen (which is not the case this time). Thank you.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676099)
Posted by Va'al on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:40pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:40pm CDT
Via their official Twitter account, the team at BotCon have announced their third character in the exclusive event box set 'Cybertron's Most Wanted'. Joining Packrat and Battletrap, we take a look at the toy in the orange egg - The Loose Cannon! To find out who the latest addition is, check out the embedded video below.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676102)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:44pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:44pm CDT
HAH! Called it, SO Called it! 
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676103)
Posted by shajaki on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:45pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:45pm CDT
Huh. I don't follow Botcon fiction, but how does a SG character fit in with those guys?
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676105)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:50pm CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:50pm CDT
Meh, close enough to Ricochet.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676108)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:54pm CDT
If you watched the whole video, you'd hear his bio and how he came in Axiom Nexus, where the story takes place.
And slight correction on my call: it's the same inspiration I was right on, but of course, FunPub had to decide to throw a curve-ball and make them separate characters.
So that would mean that the flashback from the BotCon 2012 comic was this guy, and not the other...
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:54pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Huh. I don't follow Botcon fiction, but how does a SG character fit in with those guys?
If you watched the whole video, you'd hear his bio and how he came in Axiom Nexus, where the story takes place.
And slight correction on my call: it's the same inspiration I was right on, but of course, FunPub had to decide to throw a curve-ball and make them separate characters.
So that would mean that the flashback from the BotCon 2012 comic was this guy, and not the other...
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676111)
Posted by Editor on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by Editor on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
So by most wanted, are they actually trying to make a team with these guys, or is it simply going to be, "hey we were asked for these, so here you go."?
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Posted by gothsaurus on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:57pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on April 16th, 2015 @ 2:57pm CDT
It's a bit of a surprise, but I have to say... any use of the Jazz mold (and any addition to the SG cast) ... I'm quite pleased with. I'm liking all three so far.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676118)
Posted by shajaki on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:03pm CDT
Who ordered the screencaps?
Posted by shajaki on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:03pm CDT
Ah! Watched it on mute so's not to disturb the wife and her storiesJelZe GoldRabbit wrote:If you watched the whole video, you'd hear his bio and how he came in Axiom Nexus, where the story takes place.shajaki wrote:Huh. I don't follow Botcon fiction, but how does a SG character fit in with those guys?
Who ordered the screencaps?
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676121)
Posted by ScottyP on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:06pm CDT
SG Stepper - whatever. As good as that mold is, and it is really good, it's time to calm down with the uses of it. What is this, number 9?
Just to be a total hypocrite, repaint number 10 of Nightstick is pretty cool. But again, more blue. Blue everywhere.
Just to be a total hypocrite, repaint number 10 of Nightstick is pretty cool. But again, more blue. Blue everywhere.
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Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:11pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:11pm CDT
SG Ricochet ? How lame. This has gotta be the dud of the set. If it gets any worse im out. Ill just by the duocons on ebay and save shelf space.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:14pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:14pm CDT
And the BotCon 2012 reference is right here:
Sure it's a retcon, but eh, it works.
1. RtS Special Ops Jazz
2. United Autobot Jazz
3. BotCon 2012 SG Treadshot (alternate head)
4. BotCon 2012 Kick-Over
5. BotCon 2012 Longarm
6. United Stepper
7. Generations Ultimate Gift Set Autobot Jazz
8. SG Stepper
Number 12
Sure it's a retcon, but eh, it works.
ScottyP wrote:SG Stepper - whatever. As good as that mold is, and it is really good, it's time to calm down with the uses of it. What is this, number 9?
1. RtS Special Ops Jazz
2. United Autobot Jazz
3. BotCon 2012 SG Treadshot (alternate head)
4. BotCon 2012 Kick-Over
5. BotCon 2012 Longarm
6. United Stepper
7. Generations Ultimate Gift Set Autobot Jazz
8. SG Stepper
Just to be a total hypocrite, repaint number 10 of Nightstick is pretty cool. But again, more blue. Blue everywhere.
Number 12
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Posted by megatronus on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:21pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:21pm CDT
SG 
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676131)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:26pm CDT
Generations G2 Jazz is the best use of the mold
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:26pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:SG Stepper - whatever. As good as that mold is, and it is really good, it's time to calm down with the uses of it. What is this, number 9?
Generations G2 Jazz is the best use of the mold
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:37pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:37pm CDT
Knew it would be a red Jazz, but did not see them coming with making it a different character from the already established SG Ricochet. So now the G1 guy gets two SG universe counterparts.
Upon revealing the name, at first I was like "HUH?!"
But after seeing the robot mode deco, and hearing the bio, I am interested.
Of particular note is something the bio mentioned about a run in with some GoBots that led Stepper to be sent to Axiom Nexus. This bit of info actually refers to some apocryphal Club fiction. I say "apocryphal" because the story it alluded to has yet to be released. Back at BotCon 2013, the TCC Raoundtable Panel had announced a new text story that was to be called "Spatiotemporal Challengers", written by Andrew Hall, and illustrated by Hayato Sakamoto. This story would have focused on the GoBots who had previously appeared in the TCC prose story "Withered Hope", as that story had left the GoBots plot thread dangling and unfinished. From what little has been said about this story, it was to have had the GoBots having some adventure that would have led them to the SG universe, which we see here being alluded to in this Stepper toy's bio. But as of this typing, the story has still not been released. But hopefully this bio's alluding to it could be a sign of its finally getting put online to read.
Although, I get the feeling that the "Most Wanted" double-meaning title doesn't refer to this guy being "wanted" by the fans (like Packrat and Battletrap were), but instead "wanted" to be made by the Club itself. So this one figure could be seen as the Club throwing itself a bone for a little harmless indulgence. And it really is harmless since, come on, this thing does still look really cool, so it's not like we're getting shafted here as we're still getting a cool-looking figure out of this.
Upon revealing the name, at first I was like "HUH?!"
But after seeing the robot mode deco, and hearing the bio, I am interested.
Of particular note is something the bio mentioned about a run in with some GoBots that led Stepper to be sent to Axiom Nexus. This bit of info actually refers to some apocryphal Club fiction. I say "apocryphal" because the story it alluded to has yet to be released. Back at BotCon 2013, the TCC Raoundtable Panel had announced a new text story that was to be called "Spatiotemporal Challengers", written by Andrew Hall, and illustrated by Hayato Sakamoto. This story would have focused on the GoBots who had previously appeared in the TCC prose story "Withered Hope", as that story had left the GoBots plot thread dangling and unfinished. From what little has been said about this story, it was to have had the GoBots having some adventure that would have led them to the SG universe, which we see here being alluded to in this Stepper toy's bio. But as of this typing, the story has still not been released. But hopefully this bio's alluding to it could be a sign of its finally getting put online to read.
Although, I get the feeling that the "Most Wanted" double-meaning title doesn't refer to this guy being "wanted" by the fans (like Packrat and Battletrap were), but instead "wanted" to be made by the Club itself. So this one figure could be seen as the Club throwing itself a bone for a little harmless indulgence. And it really is harmless since, come on, this thing does still look really cool, so it's not like we're getting shafted here as we're still getting a cool-looking figure out of this.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676136)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:40pm CDT
I disagree, it looks like a cheap redeco, even by the clubs standards. There's nothing special about him besides he's SG.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:40pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote: come on, this thing does still look really cool, so it's not like we're getting shafted here since we're still getting a cool-looking figure out of this.
I disagree, it looks like a cheap redeco, even by the clubs standards. There's nothing special about him besides he's SG.
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Posted by Editor on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:42pm CDT
Posted by Editor on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:42pm CDT
I personally love the SG concept, and I couldn't care less about this release.
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Posted by Tsutsukakushi on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:55pm CDT
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on April 16th, 2015 @ 3:55pm CDT
Think SG Stepper is a disappointment of a toy. Think it has dull colors and nothing special about him.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 4:05pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2015 @ 4:05pm CDT
Worth noting is that the pieces shown in the video are samples and thus not final. You can hear him commenting on requesting tweaks (like his orange) and how some are really close to the desired final product. 
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Posted by gothsaurus on April 16th, 2015 @ 4:17pm CDT
Posted by gothsaurus on April 16th, 2015 @ 4:17pm CDT
Gotta note that I love the bonus targetmaster and minicon additions... and that the blues all look really great together. I think when they're all revealed, it will help tie the set together nicely.
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Posted by Deadput on April 16th, 2015 @ 4:46pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on April 16th, 2015 @ 4:46pm CDT
Ughhhhh first toy of a character that I like that has disappointed me in the history of collecting Transformers.
I wish he was gold instead of orange especially since he was retconned into a SG comic with that deco.
I wish he was gold instead of orange especially since he was retconned into a SG comic with that deco.
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Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 4:54pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 4:54pm CDT
Looking at "Nebulan" he kind of resembles G1 Blowpipe. It would be nice if one of those eggs contained Triggerhappy from the FOC seeker mold with a new head. But this is Funpub, so I wouldn't bank on it.
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Posted by Henry921 on April 16th, 2015 @ 6:12pm CDT
Posted by Henry921 on April 16th, 2015 @ 6:12pm CDT
Might pick him up off the secondary market. So far he's the only one I'm interested in.
The paint job is beautiful.
The paint job is beautiful.
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Posted by RiddlerJ on April 16th, 2015 @ 7:01pm CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on April 16th, 2015 @ 7:01pm CDT
That might've been a good figure for one of the smaller exclusive packs, but yeah, given how much that mold has been used, he's kind of a let down after the other two.
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Posted by ScottyP on April 16th, 2015 @ 8:21pm CDT
And GDO Wheelie makes 9.
But yeah you're right on the minicon's usage count, forgot about United Stepper and Artfire both having unique versions of the Nightstick mold, and that the Challenge at Cybertron one is a minor variant.
Posted by ScottyP on April 16th, 2015 @ 8:21pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ScottyP wrote:SG Stepper - whatever. As good as that mold is, and it is really good, it's time to calm down with the uses of it. What is this, number 9?
1. RtS Special Ops Jazz
2. United Autobot Jazz
3. BotCon 2012 SG Treadshot (alternate head)
4. BotCon 2012 Kick-Over
5. BotCon 2012 Longarm
6. United Stepper
7. Generations Ultimate Gift Set Autobot Jazz
8. SG Stepper
And GDO Wheelie makes 9.
But yeah you're right on the minicon's usage count, forgot about United Stepper and Artfire both having unique versions of the Nightstick mold, and that the Challenge at Cybertron one is a minor variant.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 8:49pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 8:49pm CDT
As a heads up to yourself, after seeing this reveal, I can say with confidence that the last two will very likely not be toys of anyone from 1984-1987.Rated X wrote:SG Ricochet ? How lame. This has gotta be the dud of the set. If it gets any worse im out. Ill just by the duocons on ebay and save shelf space.
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Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 9:07pm CDT
My belief is that flywheels will come in one of the 2 packs. Its a money grab. I never expected both duocons to come in the box set. But im kind of hoping the other 2 suck so even if I have to pay 100 each for the duocons, ill still abe saving money vs. buying the box set.
On a side note, I remember one of these videos saying the "most wanted" theme is supposed to be whats most wanted by the fans...
How many of you guys really really really wanted an SG stepper and a blue rat ?
Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 9:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:As a heads up to yourself, after seeing this reveal, I can say with confidence that the last two will very likely not be toys of anyone from 1984-1987.Rated X wrote:SG Ricochet ? How lame. This has gotta be the dud of the set. If it gets any worse im out. Ill just by the duocons on ebay and save shelf space.
My belief is that flywheels will come in one of the 2 packs. Its a money grab. I never expected both duocons to come in the box set. But im kind of hoping the other 2 suck so even if I have to pay 100 each for the duocons, ill still abe saving money vs. buying the box set.
On a side note, I remember one of these videos saying the "most wanted" theme is supposed to be whats most wanted by the fans...
How many of you guys really really really wanted an SG stepper and a blue rat ?
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 9:22pm CDT
As for SG Stepper, I'm not gonna lie, it wasn't until I saw its robot mode deco and heard the guy in the video read the character bio that I took any real interest in that figure. As I noted in my first post response to this revelation, I get the feeling that, based on the video guy's own reaction to the toy, this one was not "wanted" by the fans like the other two have been, but was instead "wanted" to be made by the Club itself. So this one figure could be seen as the Club throwing itself a bone for a little harmless indulgence.
And every set has that one figure that's not as strong as the others, so now that we've gotten this one out of the way, we can hopefully look forward to the last two being better.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 9:22pm CDT
For Packrat, lots of folks actually did think of him as the best redeco for Generations Rattrap, and had wished that Hasbro had put the mold out sooner so that it could have used for Packrat in last year's set, so this one is an idea in demand by the fans.Rated X wrote:On a side note, I remember one of these videos saying the "most wanted" theme is supposed to be whats most wanted by the fans...
How many of you guys really really really wanted an SG stepper and a blue rat ?
As for SG Stepper, I'm not gonna lie, it wasn't until I saw its robot mode deco and heard the guy in the video read the character bio that I took any real interest in that figure. As I noted in my first post response to this revelation, I get the feeling that, based on the video guy's own reaction to the toy, this one was not "wanted" by the fans like the other two have been, but was instead "wanted" to be made by the Club itself. So this one figure could be seen as the Club throwing itself a bone for a little harmless indulgence.
And every set has that one figure that's not as strong as the others, so now that we've gotten this one out of the way, we can hopefully look forward to the last two being better.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 9:45pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 9:45pm CDT
Confirmation from Pete himself that this toy was indeed a "most wanted" toy by the Club (rather than the fans):
It was originally posted as a rebuttal to a claim that this toy retconned the guy everyone thought was a golden SG Ricochet in "Invasion" into being the new-character SG Stepper.Pete@BotCon wrote:Just checked out his page. You probably know better than me (HA!) BUT I don't think we called him Ricochet in that comic. He was always intended to be SG Stepper once we got to colors. And he WAS SG Stepper in the story. That's right. This figure has been on my radar for 3 years
So. Not a retcon.
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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 9:50pm CDT
Wow, the club has worse taste than I thought.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 9:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Confirmation from Pete himself that this toy was indeed a "most wanted" toy by the Club (rather than the fans):It was originally posted as a rebuttal to a claim that this toy retconned the guy everyone thought was a golden SG Ricochet in "Invasion" into being the new-character SG Stepper.Pete@BotCon wrote:Just checked out his page. You probably know better than me (HA!) BUT I don't think we called him Ricochet in that comic. He was always intended to be SG Stepper once we got to colors. And he WAS SG Stepper in the story. That's right. This figure has been on my radar for 3 years
So. Not a retcon.
Wow, the club has worse taste than I thought.
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Posted by RiddlerJ on April 16th, 2015 @ 10:29pm CDT
For a while, I considered buying the set, but yeah, I'm thinking I might have to Ebay individual figures since the Duocons are the ones I want. I'll wait to see what the last to reveals are.
Posted by RiddlerJ on April 16th, 2015 @ 10:29pm CDT
Rated X wrote:My belief is that flywheels will come in one of the 2 packs. Its a money grab. I never expected both duocons to come in the box set. But im kind of hoping the other 2 suck so even if I have to pay 100 each for the duocons, ill still abe saving money vs. buying the box set.
For a while, I considered buying the set, but yeah, I'm thinking I might have to Ebay individual figures since the Duocons are the ones I want. I'll wait to see what the last to reveals are.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676280)
Posted by megatronus on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:02pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:02pm CDT
I don't mind the reuse of this mold so much... but seriously, the SG kills it for me. I guess I'm not getting the boxed set (might get the polybagged set though).
Also, mis-transformed legs, much?
Also, mis-transformed legs, much?
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676283)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:06pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:06pm CDT
Why? Why does it matter so much that he's SG? All five of these figures are troublemakers from different worlds. It's only logical to include a representative from the one world that the Club has put more effort into than it has for most of its others that aren't TransTech or Wings G1. This figure is meant to go with the other four in the set just as much as any of them are, as they are a single united team banded together in crime.megatronus wrote:I don't mind the reuse of this mold so much... but seriously, the SG kills it for me.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676287)
Posted by shajaki on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:10pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:10pm CDT
I had no idea the Jazz mold had been ridden so hard...
As for the criticism, meh. Can't please everyone.
As for the criticism, meh. Can't please everyone.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676289)
Posted by megatronus on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:14pm CDT
It's only logical to you because you want it to be.
But me? I'm not a fan of SG. I don't collect those figures, and to me, it's a turnoff.
Posted by megatronus on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:14pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Why? Why does it matter so much that he's SG? All five of these figures are troublemakers from different worlds. It's only logical to include a representative from the one world that the Club has put more effort into than it has for most of its others that aren't TransTech or Wings G1. This figure is meant to go with the other four in the set just as much as any of them are, as they are a single united team banded together in crime.megatronus wrote:I don't mind the reuse of this mold so much... but seriously, the SG kills it for me.
It's only logical to you because you want it to be.
But me? I'm not a fan of SG. I don't collect those figures, and to me, it's a turnoff.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676291)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:16pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:16pm CDT
Well, what world would you have rather "Decepticon Stepper" have come from, then?megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Why? Why does it matter so much that he's SG? All five of these figures are troublemakers from different worlds. It's only logical to include a representative from the one world that the Club has put more effort into than it has for most of its others that aren't TransTech or Wings G1. This figure is meant to go with the other four in the set just as much as any of them are, as they are a single united team banded together in crime.megatronus wrote:I don't mind the reuse of this mold so much... but seriously, the SG kills it for me.
It's only logical to you because you want it to be.
But me? I'm not a fan of SG. I don't collect those figures, and to me, it's a turnoff.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676292)
Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:19pm CDT
In the case of Packrat, who else could they do with that mold ? It's not like they had any choices that werent some form of a Ratrap repaint. If they were smart, they would have taken the Waspinator mold, dropped a new head and made Venom. They could have capitalized on Fansproject's failure to finish the foursome.
And SG Stepper has been on Pete's radar for 3 years huh ? Makes me wonder what other Botcon duds were also on Petes most wanted list ? SG Treadshot ? Brimstone ? Metalhawk ? Maybe he is behind Alpha Bravo too.
Posted by Rated X on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:19pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:For Packrat, lots of folks actually did think of him as the best redeco for Generations Rattrap, and had wished that Hasbro had put the mold out sooner so that it could have used for Packrat in last year's set, so this one is an idea in demand by the fans.Rated X wrote:On a side note, I remember one of these videos saying the "most wanted" theme is supposed to be whats most wanted by the fans...
How many of you guys really really really wanted an SG stepper and a blue rat ?
As for SG Stepper, I'm not gonna lie, it wasn't until I saw its robot mode deco and heard the guy in the video read the character bio that I took any real interest in that figure. As I noted in my first post response to this revelation, I get the feeling that, based on the video guy's own reaction to the toy, this one was not "wanted" by the fans like the other two have been, but was instead "wanted" to be made by the Club itself. So this one figure could be seen as the Club throwing itself a bone for a little harmless indulgence.
And every set has that one figure that's not as strong as the others, so now that we've gotten this one out of the way, we can hopefully look forward to the last two being better.
In the case of Packrat, who else could they do with that mold ? It's not like they had any choices that werent some form of a Ratrap repaint. If they were smart, they would have taken the Waspinator mold, dropped a new head and made Venom. They could have capitalized on Fansproject's failure to finish the foursome.
And SG Stepper has been on Pete's radar for 3 years huh ? Makes me wonder what other Botcon duds were also on Petes most wanted list ? SG Treadshot ? Brimstone ? Metalhawk ? Maybe he is behind Alpha Bravo too.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676293)
Posted by megatronus on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:23pm CDT
That's a silly question. Why does there have to be a "Decepticon Stepper" at all? Why can't there just be a lineup of evil-aligned Decepticons?
Posted by megatronus on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:23pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Well, what world would you have rather "Decepticon Stepper" have come from, then?megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Why? Why does it matter so much that he's SG? All five of these figures are troublemakers from different worlds. It's only logical to include a representative from the one world that the Club has put more effort into than it has for most of its others that aren't TransTech or Wings G1. This figure is meant to go with the other four in the set just as much as any of them are, as they are a single united team banded together in crime.megatronus wrote:I don't mind the reuse of this mold so much... but seriously, the SG kills it for me.
It's only logical to you because you want it to be.
But me? I'm not a fan of SG. I don't collect those figures, and to me, it's a turnoff.
That's a silly question. Why does there have to be a "Decepticon Stepper" at all? Why can't there just be a lineup of evil-aligned Decepticons?
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676294)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:33pm CDT
Also, there are autobot, "loose cannons" that would be interesting to see in a set if done right. Groundbreaker anyone?
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:33pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, what world would you have rather "Decepticon Stepper" have come from, then?megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Why? Why does it matter so much that he's SG? All five of these figures are troublemakers from different worlds. It's only logical to include a representative from the one world that the Club has put more effort into than it has for most of its others that aren't TransTech or Wings G1. This figure is meant to go with the other four in the set just as much as any of them are, as they are a single united team banded together in crime.megatronus wrote:I don't mind the reuse of this mold so much... but seriously, the SG kills it for me.
It's only logical to you because you want it to be.
But me? I'm not a fan of SG. I don't collect those figures, and to me, it's a turnoff.
That's a silly question. Why does there have to be a "Decepticon Stepper" at all? Why can't there just be a lineup of evil-aligned Decepticons?
Also, there are autobot, "loose cannons" that would be interesting to see in a set if done right. Groundbreaker anyone?
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676295)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:36pm CDT
I ask what world would you have had this Decepticon hail from because it's part of this year's theme. Each of these five is from some other world than they one they've all found their way into. Packrat's from Beast Wars, Battletrap's from Dreamwave G1, Stepper's from the Shatteredverse, etc. etc.
That's part of the fun when it comes to Axiom Nexus stories. You can take just about anyone from just about anywhere and put them together in a story that's mostly limited by one's imagination alone. It tickles the fancy of those who played with their toys as children in a mixed manner with no regards to series or continuity or franchise or anything, playing with their toys how they wanted to rather than being dictated by the fiction, all for the sake of having fun.
And now we have a fictional setting that takes that kind of play pattern to a whole new level as a loving tribute to it.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:36pm CDT
If they had dropped a new head on the Waspinator mold, chances are they would have made Buzz Saw (another "fan's wanted" figure).Rated X wrote:If they were smart, they would have taken the Waspinator mold, dropped a new head and made Venom.
It was just a placeholder name for the Decepticon-this-Stepper-toy-might-be-in-any-other-world, hence the quote marks.megatronus wrote:That's a silly question. Why does there have to be a "Decepticon Stepper" at all? Why can't there just be a lineup of evil-aligned Decepticons?
I ask what world would you have had this Decepticon hail from because it's part of this year's theme. Each of these five is from some other world than they one they've all found their way into. Packrat's from Beast Wars, Battletrap's from Dreamwave G1, Stepper's from the Shatteredverse, etc. etc.
That's part of the fun when it comes to Axiom Nexus stories. You can take just about anyone from just about anywhere and put them together in a story that's mostly limited by one's imagination alone. It tickles the fancy of those who played with their toys as children in a mixed manner with no regards to series or continuity or franchise or anything, playing with their toys how they wanted to rather than being dictated by the fiction, all for the sake of having fun.
And now we have a fictional setting that takes that kind of play pattern to a whole new level as a loving tribute to it.
Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Exclusives: Official Pics of "The Muscle" Battletrap (1676297)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:44pm CDT
Erm, anybody who attended the 3H BotCons... Packrat is awesome and looks exceptional, especially the white fade on his back to represent the original's white stripe from the flip-change gimmick. He is a great use of the mold, something people were hoping to see at BotCon when Rattrap was first announced. I guess if falls on blind eyes for later BotCon attendees
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on April 16th, 2015 @ 11:44pm CDT
Rated X wrote:On a side note, I remember one of these videos saying the "most wanted" theme is supposed to be whats most wanted by the fans... how many of you guys really really really wanted a blue rat?
Erm, anybody who attended the 3H BotCons... Packrat is awesome and looks exceptional, especially the white fade on his back to represent the original's white stripe from the flip-change gimmick. He is a great use of the mold, something people were hoping to see at BotCon when Rattrap was first announced. I guess if falls on blind eyes for later BotCon attendees
