BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel
Saturday, June 29th, 2013 1:12PM CDT
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Transformers BotCon 2013
Clint Joshua Shawn Bill Mark
111 Slides
Transformers Generations
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Showed us about 1/2 way through, put to top of list for all of you)
30th Anniversary celebration
30 special items through the year (over various lines such as Platinum, SDCC, etc)
"Warning: what you are about to see may make your head explode"
Transformers Generations Legends Class 2014
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Swerve with Flanker (IDW)
Cosmos with Payload (Micromaster homage) ... U.F.oh Yeah!
Wave 2
Tailgate with Groundpounder
Sharpshot (Shrapnel) with Reflector (transforms into camera)
Transformers Generations Deluxe Class 2014
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All will be tied in with upcoming IDW comic series
Goldbug (now called Goldfire) (basically the new version of Bumblebee from comic)
Dreadwing (Megatron remold with new head)
Skids (looks badass, very cool looking)
Waspinator (you guys will love this, transforms into wasp, looks like a very awesome version of Beast Wars cartoon Waspinator, has button on his back to make wings flap)
Wave 2
Skywarp
Scoop (with 2 Targetmaster partners)
Starscream (Armada Starscream)
Transformers Generations Voyager Class 2014
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Decepticon Doubledealer (Blitzwing repaint with new head)
Rhinox w/ miniguns of doom (looks increadible ... holy hell you guys will love this, audience reaction was awesome to this)
Wave 2
Whirl (showed us sketch dated Oct 2012), then showed us design and grey model photos, has Gerwalk mode?, looks very cool, very reminiscent of G1 toy, comes with new sticker sheet
SDCC 2013
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Titan Guardian 5 pack (Starscream, Soundwave, Megatron, Optimus Prime, Grimlock, 6" tall, non transformable)
Metroplex wi/ 12 mini-figures (vac metallized)
Shockwave's lab (G1 inspired deco with proto Predaking in hyper evolution chamber)
Transformers Hall of Fame
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34% Beast Wars Megatron
19% Ultra Magnus
16% Prowl
16% Arcee
15% Rodimus Prime
Fan Built Bot
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And the winner is ...
It's an Autobot Jet (showed us silhouette of jet mode) still working on it, to be revealed at comic-con
Transformers Prime Legion Class 2013
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Dive Bomb w/ Tornado Bow (Autobot defector, U.S. colors ... Windrazor repaint)
Rot Gut (Blight repaint ... acid green and blue)
Ace Vehicone (white jet Vehicon)
Bluestreak w/ chain bolter (bluestreak colored Smokescreen)
Transformers Prime Commander Class 2013
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Unicron Megatron (posessed to impress!)
Ultra Magnus (ready to remodel ... new mold based off Voyager class)
Bludgeon (Shockwave remold with new head, appropriate Bludgeon colors)
Transformers Prime Deluxe Class 2013
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Night Shadow Bumblebee (Stealth Bumblebee colors with blue accessories, beast hunters mold)
Prowl (Smokescreen recolor/remold with new head)
Transformers Prime Deluxe Class 2014
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(Talked about going back to basics, demonstrated how easy it was to transform G1 Optimus Prime)
Bumblebee w/ dragon shredder sword (basically looks like large version of Legion class, less complicated = bigger toy)
Windrazor (basically deluxe class sized version of Legion class)
Smokescreen
Twinstrike
Transformers Prime Voyager Class 2014
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Optimus Prime w/ nexus sword and vector shield (transforms in 15 steps)
Predaking w/ Infernum blade
Kre-O
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Custom Kreons - Asst A5413
Come with additional parts to customize your own Kreon (kind of like a build-a-figure)
Transformers Construct-o-Bots
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Stated that this came from Hasbro observing people enjoying the custom class at BotCon and enjoying building their own figures.
Showed us a commercial, going to see if they can show it to us in the dealer room.
Transformers Construct-o-Bots 2013 Scout Class
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Ironhide
Starscream
Bumblebee
Thundercracker
Cliffjumper
Deadend
Silverbolt
Breakdown
Transformers Construct-o-Bots 2013 Elite Class
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Soundwave
Wheeljack
Megatron
Hound
Optimus Prime
Smokescreen
Dragstrip
Shockwave
Transformers Construct-o-Bots 2013 Triplechangers
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Bumblebee
Blitzwing
Transformers Construct-o-Bots 2013 Ultimate Class
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Optimus Prime vs Megatron
Transformers Construct-o-Bots 2014 Beast Hunters Scout Class
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Bumblebee
Starscream (look more like traditional Transformers)
Ripclaw
Transformers Construct-o-Bots 2014 Beast Hunters Elite Class
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Skystalker
Shockwave
Optimus Prime
Transformers Construct-o-Bots 2014 Beast Hunters Triple Team Class
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Unicron Megatron comes with Ratbat and Barrage
Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Predacons Rising (Sept/Oct 2013)
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Legion 2 pack Smokescreen and Cindersaur
Legion 2 pack Night Shadow Bumblebee and Blight
Commander Class 2 pack Optimus Prime and Predaking
Commander Class 2 pack Shockwave and Bombshock
Abominus 5 pack (Target, Tesco, Carrefour exclusives)
Skylynx deluxe class
Nova Blast Bumblebee
Cryofire Predaking (blue)
Dark Steel (Grimwing repaint)
Transformers Prime cartoon has won 3 daytime emmy awards for outstanding individual achievement in animation
Transformers Universe from Jagex coming out this fall
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Posted by Pretender Skywarp on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:13pm CDT
Posted by wolverinetodd on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:30pm CDT
Ugh! More Bumblebees repaints and remolds? Hasn't HasTak learned yet that we are sick with the over-saturating of the toy shelves and pegs of Bumblebees? Hell, just put out enough Cyberverse Hun-Gurrs, Windrazors, Blights, and Rippersnappers for Pete's sake so we can make our own Abominous. And that goes double if that's the plan for their Deluxe counterparts.
As for easier transformation... I'm fine with that as long as it's not at the cost of articulation, even more decrease in size of toy, and the price of the toy actually goes down.
Posted by Noideaforaname on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:30pm CDT
Deluxe Terrorcons! But simpler transformations. Dunno if I'm glad I couldn't find the Legions or not yet. Guess it depends if the Deluxes actually combine...
"Custom Kreons"? Color me interested. I customize a lot of my Kreons, so this could be a godsend. Or just plain useless.
Posted by Mindmaster on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:36pm CDT
ShrapnelSharpshot with Reflector? GIMME NAO!
Dost my eyes deceive me? Waspinator?! IN DELUXE FORM?!
Skids is also a buy, no questions asked.
Skywarp! Huzzah! Any word of him using his War for Cybertron/Fall of Cybertron design?
...Armada Starscream... did I read that right? ARMADA STARSCREAM?!?!?! ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE CHARACTERS AND THE ONE THAT GOT ME INTO TRANSFORMERS?!?!?!
sdfggrthrjtsyuyiiohbvsdtytuyidrtstysfuu.... Sorry, I was wiping away my tears of joy.
I was hoping for Flywheels, but hey, I'll take Doubledealer. Now I have an excuse for picking up Sandstorm.
So we finally hear about that Voyager Rhinox that's been going around since 2009. About time.
I could use a Whirl. Can never have too many Classics Autobots!
Beast Wars Megatron won the Hall of Fame! Does this mean we'll see that retool of Generations/Fall of Cybertron Grimlock come into fruition?
An Autobot jet won the poll? Darn. Well, hopefully it'll be a female: only female jet I can think off the top of my head is Slipstream.
I happened to have noticed the name "Unicron Megatron" being mentioned twice in the list: in the Prime assortment and the Construct-Bots. Megatron transcends normal form into a divine state as a Herald of Unicron?
Deluxe versions of CutthroatWindrazor and SinnertwinTwinstrike? Interesting. Any word of Deluxe versions of Hun-Gurr, BlotBlight and Rippersnapper? And a combining feature into Abominus?
Images later on?
I've been wondering about Transformers: Universe. It's been a while since we've heard about it.
Posted by Autobot032 on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:41pm CDT
It would be nice if they made a full sized Abominus (not holding my breath), but the Legends Class one that I have is just fine. I love it to pieces.
The whole simplicity idea bugs me. Gonna be a lot of cheating, possibly detail loss and maybe even some articulation issues. That doesn't sit well with me. I hope they don't do that with Transformers 4's toyline.
One thing we've come to expect from those movie lines is complexity, posability and good looks. ROTF Optimus, DOTM Sentinel Prime, name any one of the ROTF Voyagers or Deluxes, even some of the DOTM figures. You can't go from TF1 (which still had a nice level of complexity) to DOTM, and then take a G1 sized step back in terms of evolution and design.
That, right there, could make me go full on 3rd party for good. Generations better not be dumbed down, too. Trailbreaker and Hoist are already terribly simplistic.
Asia gets the Platinum edition figures, we get squat. (Unless we want to buy from BBTS or Amazon. It would be nice to just walk into a store and find them, but noooo.) Asia gets TakaraTomy special edition figures (like movie masterpieces repackaged) and now they're making our figures simplistic.
If this keeps up, I'm seriously going 3rd party. I've had it.
Posted by waaaaghlord on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:44pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Images later on?
That's not how it works. There's a no photography policy since this is largely a preview of essentially the same presentation they'll be giving at SDCC next month. Expect pictures of [some] of this stuff tomorrow when they put more stuff in the display cases, but most of it those of us not at the panel won't get to see until next month.
Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:50pm CDT
waaaaghlord wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Images later on?
That's not how it works. There's a no photography policy since this is largely a preview of essentially the same presentation they'll be giving at SDCC next month. Expect pictures of [some] of this stuff tomorrow when they put more stuff in the display cases, but most of it those of us not at the panel won't get to see until next month.
They usually put some stuff out in the Hasbro display area in the dealer room later on Saturday all the way through the end on Sunday. I'll do my best to get pics up of whatever they put on display later today.
Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:52pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:I am very unimpressed with what I've heard so, far. Nothing but rehashes and a couple of upsized molds. Whoopity doo.
Please read the updated list. Voyager class Rhinox! Deluxe class Waspinator! Sharpshot with Reflector! Skids! Whirl! Armada Starscream! Amazing stuff.
Posted by Autobot032 on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:57pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Autobot032 wrote:I am very unimpressed with what I've heard so, far. Nothing but rehashes and a couple of upsized molds. Whoopity doo.
Please read the updated list. Voyager class Rhinox! Deluxe class Waspinator! Sharpshot with Reflector! Skids! Whirl! Armada Starscream! Amazing stuff.
Alright. That's giving me some hope. Glad I didn't sell that Dinobot, now. But I do believe I sold my Generations Cheetor. Oh well. He wasn't worth owning anyway. Terrible figure.
Posted by T-Macksimus on June 29th, 2013 @ 1:58pm CDT
Now that that's out of my system, I'm somewhat intrigued by the few Generations offerings listed above but I'm also highly skeptical about these "30 Specials" that they are offering up. Something tells me they are going to be cool but so exclusive and so over-priced that practically nobody (unless you are pulling a 6 figure yearly salary) is going to be able to lay their hands on them. Just seems to fall in line with all the rest of the fan treatment that Hasbro has thrown our way over the years. Make a token effort, give it plenty of lip service and then screw us over in the end in favor of trying to milk us for generic, mass market crap are our kids are pestering us for. Sorry for the cynicism but experience has taught some of us some hard lessons and I have no reason to trust Hasbro. They didn't make it to the top of the game by playing nice. Nobody ever does.
Posted by Mkall on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:01pm CDT
Predacons
Swerve & Tailgate
Dreadwing, Skids, Scoop & Armada Starscream
Doubledealer & Whirl
I'm not sure about the Beast Wars figures yet, I just don't see them fitting in well with my Classics line and I don't have an updated BW shelf.
Overall, there were some high points, but a lot of it sounds like "meh."
I was really hoping they would announce the next Titan figure. Oh well.
Posted by Mindmaster on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:05pm CDT
Mkall wrote:I was really hoping they would announce the next Titan figure. Oh well.
Yeah, same here. I would have like to see a Decepticon counterpart to Metroplex. It doesn't have to specifically be Trypticon.
Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:14pm CDT
Hasbro wrote:Greetings, TRANSFORMERS fans!
This morning at The Official TRANSFORMERS Convention — BotCon— in San Diego, California, Hasbro's TRANSFORMERS brand team revealed several amazing new TRANSFORMERS toys, as well as the 2013 inductees to the TRANSFORMERS Hall of Fame.
This year's TRANSFORMERS Hall of Fame class, as entirely voted on by TRANSFORMERS fans online, consists of the following two characters:
BEAST WARS MEGATRON
An insane, hyper-intelligent criminal mastermind who led a group of renegade PREDACONS to Earth in search of the Energon they would need to conquer CYBERTRON, MEGATRON became so much more than a petty felon. When the search led to the discovery of alien artifacts, MEGATRON launched an assault on Time itself, seeking to change history to his benefit. He nearly destroyed CYBERTRON in his mad quest to exterminate the TRANSFORMERS, and was stopped only when OPTIMUS PRIMAL brought him down. He returned, determined to have his vengeance, and his battle with the MAXIMAL leader raged across the multiverse!
ULTRA MAGNUS
As the commander of the most elite AUTOBOT special forces unit ever assembled, you'd expect ULTRA MAGNUS to be just about one of the most unstoppable warriors this side of the galactic core. You’d be right. If there is any AUTOBOT the DECEPTICONS fear as much as OPTIMUS PRIME, it is ULTRA MAGNUS. His battle hammer has crushed chassis from one side of the galaxy to the other. No battlefield on which his armored feet have stepped has ever been yielded to the DECEPTICONS.
The following new 2013 toys were also revealed during the panel:
TRANSFORMERS Generations Legends 2-Packs
· A5485 – Swerve w/Sky High
· A5486 – Cosmos w/Blast Master
TRANSFORMERS Generations Deluxe
· A5478 Dreadwing
· A5479 Waspinator
· A5480 Skids
· A5481 Goldfire
TRANSFORMERS Generations Voyager
· A5483 Doubledealer
· A5484 Rhinox
TRANSFORMERS Prime Beast Hunters Legion
· A6422 Dragon 1
· A4699 Dragon 2
· A4701 Bluestreak
· A4700 Elite Air Vehicon
TRANSFORMERS Prime Beast Hunters Commander
· A4706 Megatron
· A4705 Ultra Magnus
· A4704 Bludgeon
TRANSFORMERS Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe
· A4689 Prowl
· A6214 Bumblebee
· A6215 Twinstrike
· A6216 Smokescreen
· A6217 Windrazor
TRANSFORMERS Prime Beast Hunters Voyager
· A6212 Beast Hunter Optimus
· A6213 Predaking
Posted by Autobot032 on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:17pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Hasbro just sent us the following email. I'm currently downloading the pictures from their FTP and hope to have them posted within the next 15 to 30 minutes, depending on any challenges I come across. Stay tuned ...Hasbro wrote:Greetings, TRANSFORMERS fans!
This morning at The Official TRANSFORMERS Convention — BotCon— in San Diego, California, Hasbro's TRANSFORMERS brand team revealed several amazing new TRANSFORMERS toys, as well as the 2013 inductees to the TRANSFORMERS Hall of Fame.
This year's TRANSFORMERS Hall of Fame class, as entirely voted on by TRANSFORMERS fans online, consists of the following two characters:
BEAST WARS MEGATRON
An insane, hyper-intelligent criminal mastermind who led a group of renegade PREDACONS to Earth in search of the Energon they would need to conquer CYBERTRON, MEGATRON became so much more than a petty felon. When the search led to the discovery of alien artifacts, MEGATRON launched an assault on Time itself, seeking to change history to his benefit. He nearly destroyed CYBERTRON in his mad quest to exterminate the TRANSFORMERS, and was stopped only when OPTIMUS PRIMAL brought him down. He returned, determined to have his vengeance, and his battle with the MAXIMAL leader raged across the multiverse!
ULTRA MAGNUS
As the commander of the most elite AUTOBOT special forces unit ever assembled, you'd expect ULTRA MAGNUS to be just about one of the most unstoppable warriors this side of the galactic core. You’d be right. If there is any AUTOBOT the DECEPTICONS fear as much as OPTIMUS PRIME, it is ULTRA MAGNUS. His battle hammer has crushed chassis from one side of the galaxy to the other. No battlefield on which his armored feet have stepped has ever been yielded to the DECEPTICONS.
The following new 2013 toys were also revealed during the panel:
TRANSFORMERS Generations Legends 2-Packs
· A5485 – Swerve w/Sky High
· A5486 – Cosmos w/Blast Master
TRANSFORMERS Generations Deluxe
· A5478 Dreadwing
· A5479 Waspinator
· A5480 Skids
· A5481 Goldfire
TRANSFORMERS Generations Voyager
· A5483 Doubledealer
· A5484 Rhinox
TRANSFORMERS Prime Beast Hunters Legion
· A6422 Dragon 1
· A4699 Dragon 2
· A4701 Bluestreak
· A4700 Elite Air Vehicon
TRANSFORMERS Prime Beast Hunters Commander
· A4706 Megatron
· A4705 Ultra Magnus
· A4704 Bludgeon
TRANSFORMERS Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe
· A4689 Prowl
· A6214 Bumblebee
· A6215 Twinstrike
· A6216 Smokescreen
· A6217 Windrazor
TRANSFORMERS Prime Beast Hunters Voyager
· A6212 Beast Hunter Optimus
· A6213 Predaking
We'll get it newsed, asap, if you need help.
Posted by Mindmaster on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:18pm CDT
Speaking of, did they mention him coming with Swindle, and having his null-ray cannons? He'll come with his wing-sword, there's no doubt about that: that's one of the defining features of Armada Starscream.
Posted by Noideaforaname on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:19pm CDT
Everyone else was basically neck and neck? I'd have thought UM and Prowl would've had a comfortable lead over Arcee and Rodimus.
Posted by Mindmaster on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:24pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:Obligatory "Yesssss!" upon the Royalty's induction into the Hall of Fame!
I've been saving this specially for this moment... I'm happy I can use it now!
Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:24pm CDT
Posted by Venoose1 on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:27pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:30pm CDT
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Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:32pm CDT
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Transformers Generations Deluxe Goldfire Robot.jpg
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Transformers Generations Deluxe Skids Robot.jpg
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Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:34pm CDT
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Posted by hinomars19 on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:35pm CDT
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Stated that this came from Hasbro observing people enjoying the custom class at BotCon and enjoying building their own figures.
Showed us a commercial, going to see if they can show it to us in the dealer room.]
Monkey see, monkey do. I love the 'Hasbro observing people' bit. Seriously, I WOULD LOVE to observe Hasbro marketing board meetings. Do these people live in closets, or did the brand testing on a bunch of kitbashers take a while to perfect?
Please try and take my post lightly. I'm aware of restrictions and what not. Shelf space allocation, stores' unwillingness dictating products, aiming things at kids who have the attention span of a goldfish to make sure they don't wander to the Ben 10 aisle and all that. But really, this just sounds like a bunch of people stepped out of a cave one day and said 'wow, this is how people play with our toys?' then frantically and excitedly makes notes ahhh, business men never change.
Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:38pm CDT
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Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:41pm CDT
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Posted by Genocide G2.0 on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:43pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:45pm CDT
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Posted by Doubledealer93 on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:45pm CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:47pm CDT
Also: Why are Legion class toys labeled as Deluxe here?
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:50pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on June 29th, 2013 @ 2:51pm CDT
Swerve and Cosmos look adorably awesome! Glad I held out from third party companies and GDO Generations for these guys. But I'm not really into their partners. Do they transform into weapons?
Doubledealer's new head kinda threw me off. Not sure why. But I do like the way it looks, however. So what faction will he be advertised, Autobot or Decepticon? It appears he has the Autobot badge on his tank mode.
Not too keen on Rhinox's rhino mode, but that robot mode is just too gorgeous to pass up!
Not really into the Beast Hunters Legions and Commanders. Bluestreak doesn't look very... Bluestreak-y.
The Beast Hunters Deluxes and Voyagers... all kinds of fail. Seriously, what went through their minds, upscaling the Legends figures for Bumblebee, Smokescreen, and Optimus? Twinstrike and Windrazor are okay, I guess. Should have given Twinstrike some elbows.
Posted by grimdragon2001 on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:01pm CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:02pm CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Whoop! Waspinator!
Also: Why are Legion class toys labeled as Deluxe here?
Because Hasbro is screwing us over with the Beast Hunters line. Those ARE Deluxes. They took the Legion Class figures and upsized them to Deluxe. They just gave them new paint jobs and new accessories, that's it. No added articulation like elbows, knees or a balljointed head, nope. Straight up upsizing of the Legion molds.
Same with Commander Class being turned into those new Voyagers of Optimus and Predaking.
I'm hoping this just stays with Beast Hunters and doesn't cross over into Generations. Those new "Deluxes" and "Voyagers" are a joke.
Now, onto the reveals...
Skids: BOUGHT.
Waspinator: BOUGHT.
Cosmos: BOUGHT.
Swerve: Iffy. (Maybe.)
Rhinox: BOUGHT. (But he looks more like a Deluxe, rather than a Voyager. Shows his tooling is somewhat simplified. So, perhaps the Beast Hunters planning will carry over to Generations.)
So far, I'm terribly unimpressed and saddened. I'm already missing Aaron Archer and his team. I realize these toys are aimed at kids, and that's fine, but if you make it too simplistic, they won't like them either. They're one step away from Rescue Bots, well, the Beast Hunter Deluxes, that is. Power Rangers Megazords and their components have more complexity than some of the upcoming stuff, and they're just stylized bricks!
I'm afraid to see what they do to TF4 toys. I really am. If this continues, I might quit Transformers altogether. No, I'm serious. I REFUSE to pay Deluxe pricing for a Legion figure. They look like terrible knock offs! I'd rather own a knock off!
P.S. I forgot to mention... Not only did they upsize the Legions, but they stripped the combining functionality from Windrazor and Twinstrike. Their combiner pegs are missing from their legs/feet. Yeah. WTF, Hasbro? Are you serious? Are you trolling us with this shit?! I'm so angry I'm swearing.
Posted by Noideaforaname on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:03pm CDT
Prime =
Seriously, they literally upscaled Legion figures into Deluxes! WAT?!
Posted by NovaSentinel on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:09pm CDT
Everything else - AMAZING
Posted by Mindmaster on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:18pm CDT
NovaSentinel wrote:Whoever Hasbro's marketing guy is, FIRE THEM. Seriously. There is no freaking way I am going to be forking out £13-£14 for a figure with 4 POINTS OF ARTICULATION. The only good thing to take away from this is that the Predacons will more than likely be able to combine into a deluxe scaled Abominus.
It was okay back in the Generation One days, where toy technology was beginning to progress. But I agree: if they make the other Predacon Terrorcons, and they all feature the combining gimmick, I'll get those. But as for Smokescreen, Bumblebee, Optimus, and Predaking...
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:22pm CDT
Posted by ILL-Star on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:22pm CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:24pm CDT
hinomars19 wrote:[Transformers Construct-o-Bots
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Stated that this came from Hasbro observing people enjoying the custom class at BotCon and enjoying building their own figures.
Showed us a commercial, going to see if they can show it to us in the dealer room.]
Monkey see, monkey do. I love the 'Hasbro observing people' bit. Seriously, I WOULD LOVE to observe Hasbro marketing board meetings. Do these people live in closets, or did the brand testing on a bunch of kitbashers take a while to perfect?
Please try and take my post lightly. I'm aware of restrictions and what not. Shelf space allocation, stores' unwillingness dictating products, aiming things at kids who have the attention span of a goldfish to make sure they don't wander to the Ben 10 aisle and all that. But really, this just sounds like a bunch of people stepped out of a cave one day and said 'wow, this is how people play with our toys?' then frantically and excitedly makes notes ahhh, business men never change.
You nailed it.
So.
Construct Bots: Meh.
Generations. AMAZING. Definitely getting Cosmos, Waspinator, and RHINOX! *drools* (side note: I could have sworn there was a "drool" emote, but I can't find it) Might get Goldbug and Swerve. Probably not getting Doubledealer, although I like what they did with him. The shark face on the jet nosecone is a nice homage both to a real military practice and Doubledealer's original Decepticon beast mode.
Beast Hunters: *cries* Bludgeon from Commander Shockwave is bloody amazing, and that's about the best I can say. Megatron redeco is Megatron redeco. Ultra Magnus from Commander Prime...well, they tried. Should've just had the shoulder pauldrons stick out behind the windvane like on the Voyager. 5/10 for the attempt. The upscaled "Deluxe" legions make me weep. They could, at the very least, have tweaked the molds and added some more articulation with the bigger size. They could still keep the old engineering and add in a few ball joints and hinges, damn it. I'm looking at you, Upscaled Twinstrike especially. Also, looks like you can't even combine the giant Terrorpreds into an Abominus, because the combiner pegs are missing from Twinstrike and Windrazor. I will get the redecos of all the proper legion-sized Terrorpreds because those are cool for the size, but these upscales are abominable. No pun intended.
So clearly, Hasbro just padding out the Prime line at this point while they focus on Generations and develop the movie 4 toys, probably launching next Spring. IT'S OKAY TO JUST END THE LINE, GUYS. It's gonna take a few months to clear out the old stuff anyway, so ship the last waves in time for Christmas, let the residual stock be picked at over the next few months, and let Generations carry the line until TF4. BAM. I think I just out-business'd Hasbro. This is what happens when you fire your senior marketing director.
Posted by Mindmaster on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:25pm CDT
Autobot Genocide wrote:I never realised those terrorcons were the legion size up scaled please say these are place holders hasbro please .
Quoted from the initial BotCon coverage from this afternoon:
Talked about going back to basics, demonstrated how easy it was to transform G1 Optimus Prime
I'm afraid that these are, indeed, 2014's Beast Hunters toys.
Posted by MasterSoundBlaster on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:44pm CDT
It's a shame about the upsizing in the prime line, but I'm surprised they didn't boot Hardshell up and label him as just an Insecticon warrior.
Skids? It's not a bad choose, but I was hoping for Chromedome to get a figure first...oh well. We're getting Whirl so it's not too bad!
Posted by Mkall on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:45pm CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:45pm CDT
And Dreadwing looks like just another Sweep thanks to the stealth bomber update we got with Scourge a few years back, and that Goldbug is kinda hideous in my opinion.
As usual I was expecting a little more (especially this year with the impending anniversary looming), but I can't complain much considering the impending Hasbro Masterpiece line coming down the pipe. Those alone should be enough to keep my wallet busy for the next year or so.
*Thanks again for the coverage guys, I imagine the schedule is exhausting.
Posted by hinomars19 on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:48pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Autobot Genocide wrote:I never realised those terrorcons were the legion size up scaled please say these are place holders hasbro please .
Quoted from the initial BotCon coverage from this afternoon:Talked about going back to basics, demonstrated how easy it was to transform G1 Optimus Prime
I'm afraid that these are, indeed, 2014's Beast Hunters toys.
This is shocking, and utterly ludicrous. Children are children. They are not stupid. They are simply smaller and younger than us. Going back to basics? To anyone who was there, was the guy who said that particularly smug with himself? I bet he was. Another amazing brainstorm session that confirmed to them all wholeheartedly that this was the way to go. Sad thing is, they believe this shtick.
Permit me to introduce one of my fave TF figures: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/g2/laser-optimus-prime/341/1/61/
Minus the trailer, he has no more than 5! 5 transformation steps, and looks a million times better than this idiocy.
Again, to the good people at Botcon right now, if it is at all possible (which I doubt since they are probably now back in their containment suits analyzing the brainwaves of children via mind flight over the astral plane) could you please PLEASE show this post and the battle convoy link to somebody at Hasbro. Please? PLEASE??
Oh, and now we all know why Takara are padding out the line with those combiners. And knowing is half the battle.
Posted by Manterax Prime on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:49pm CDT
The Generations figs are AMAZING! Not to keen on the blown up legion figs....staying away from those, though I am glad to see the commander Optimus got a voyager scale version. I'll be getting him and Predaking.
Posted by ldsam01 on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:51pm CDT
Posted by waaaaghlord on June 29th, 2013 @ 3:59pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on June 29th, 2013 @ 4:03pm CDT
Kinda dig the new voyager molds for Optimus and Predaking, they're definitely better than the last ones.
Posted by hinomars19 on June 29th, 2013 @ 4:07pm CDT
God I hate business men. Yes I know I'm getting snarky all over the boards and I apologize for the broken negative record, but for fudges' sakes, when will these people drop the 'we business men you common folk who buy anything' circus and actually realize that, at the end of the day we are all just intelligent adults sitting in a room together.
It DOES NOT require super powers, special abilities, degrees, fancy letters after our names or any other elitist label to design a TF toy. Kitbashers have been doing it for years. Fan artists have been doing it for years. Yes, yes, the business element is there, as I said in a previous post I DO KNOW of all the twaddle of getting 'into the market' Been there, done that. It's hard, realists are needed, not just the dreamers (artists, designers)
But honestly, is there a need for the pedestals? That separation between those who love this 'franchise'(ugh) and those that see it as nothing BUT a franchise?
I'll leave you all alone now.
Peace.
Posted by King Kuuga on June 29th, 2013 @ 4:07pm CDT
G1 Legacy wrote:As usual I was expecting a little more (especially this year with the impending anniversary looming), but I can't complain much considering the impending Hasbro Masterpiece line coming down the pipe. Those alone should be enough to keep my wallet busy for the next year or so.
They'll pull out the big guns at SDCC in a few weeks, mark my words. There's more reveals to come, and some pictures of stuff announced today that we haven't gotten pics of, like Skywarp, Scoop, Whril, and Armada Starscream. Last year's Botcon was kind of underwhelming as well, and then SDCC rolled around and they pulled out all the stops. They have to fight for attention there, so they save the important reveals for that conference.
RAcast wrote:Er...Upscaled Legions...Not sure that I like this. Depends on whether or not the TerrorPreds combine I suppose.
Doesn't look like it, they're missing the pegs inside their legs that let them attach to Hun-Gurrr's arms.
Kinda dig the new voyager molds for Optimus and Predaking, they're definitely better than the last ones.
Those are upscaled Commanders, FYI.