Better Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Premier Edition Optimus Prime

feifangongzi wrote:All movie toy line designer should be Fired! How ugly is this robot!

But that would mean firing the best designer of all time, Hasui, the guy who made all those amazing MP toys (from MP 10 all the way to BB, I think). He also designed movie toys, like HFTD Leader Starscream.

william-james88 wrote:

feifangongzi wrote:All movie toy line designer should be Fired! How ugly is this robot!

But that would mean firing the best designer of all time, Hasui, the guy who made all those amazing MP toys (from MP 10 all the way to BB, I think). He also designed movie toys, like HFTD Leader Starscream.

Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception) RiD toys was absurd.

It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.

Burn wrote:It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.

Could that be a good thing, maybe? A sign of some sort of continuity or consistency?

hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception)

They didnt, he went from movie toys (2007) to MPs (2011) and still kept designing every starscream ever (aside from the MP, ironically). Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.

And you thought it was absurd before.

If anyone cares, here are the Movie toys made by the same designer of MP 10 and MP Soundawve and MP Wheeljack and on and on:

Backfire (Human Alliance)/Spike Witwicky
Soundwave (Human Alliance)/Mr. Gould
Starscream (Leader class)
Barricade (Human Alliance)/Frenzy
Jazz (Human Alliance)/Captain Lennox
Bumblebee (Human Alliance)/Sam Witwicky
ROTF Sideswipe (Deluxe class)
ROTF Starscream (Voyager class)
first movie Arcee (Deluxe class)
first movie Barricade (Deluxe class)
first movie Jazz (Deluxe class)
first movie Ratchet (Voyager class)
first movie Starscream (Voyager class) (with Eric Siebenaler)

also, I just realized he designed Animated Lockdown, he really is the genius behind all my favourite toys.

william-james88 wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception)

They didnt, he went from movie toys (2007) to MPs (2011) and still kept designing every starscream ever (aside from the MP, ironically). Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.

And you thought it was absurd before.

If anyone cares, here are the Movie toys made by the same designer of MP 10 and MP Soundawve and MP Wheeljack and on and on:

Backfire (Human Alliance)/Spike Witwicky
Soundwave (Human Alliance)/Mr. Gould
Starscream (Leader class)
Barricade (Human Alliance)/Frenzy
Jazz (Human Alliance)/Captain Lennox
Bumblebee (Human Alliance)/Sam Witwicky
ROTF Sideswipe (Deluxe class)
ROTF Starscream (Voyager class)
first movie Arcee (Deluxe class)
first movie Barricade (Deluxe class)
first movie Jazz (Deluxe class)
first movie Ratchet (Voyager class)
first movie Starscream (Voyager class) (with Eric Siebenaler)

also, I just realized he designed Animated Lockdown, he really is the genius behind all my favourite toys.

They do the best they can with the movie designs. They went nuts with revenge of the fallen for making them way too complex for kids. That's why dark of the moon was very...well it was what it was. I don't mind the movie lines, they are what they are and I don't buy a movie figure unless it really speaks to me.

If you don't like movie figures just don't buy them. It's simple as that.

Maybe the painting is not perfect, but this figure looks AMAZING!

william-james88 wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception)

They didnt, he went from movie toys (2007) to MPs (2011) and still kept designing every starscream ever (aside from the MP, ironically). Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.

Bell whistles, yes, my mistake. I did know that it was Rid, just made a doozy since I knew he had done movie stuff.

My point still stands though; the designers are not to blame if a toy is bad/ too simple, etc Hasui's repertoire alone proves that.

william-james88 wrote:Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.

WOW. They couldn't make a bigger step down if they tried.

This figure's looking pretty nice; as someone who doesn't even like the movie aesthetic. Really liking the shape of the head.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.

WOW. They couldn't make a bigger step down if they tried.

He's not complaining though and still finds as much pride in his work as ever.

Attempt to steer topic back on track #1 ...

Dr Va'al wrote:

Burn wrote:It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.

Could that be a good thing, maybe? A sign of some sort of continuity or consistency?

Screw consistency, why start now?

Burn wrote:Attempt to steer topic back on track #1 ...

Dr Va'al wrote:

Burn wrote:It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.

Could that be a good thing, maybe? A sign of some sort of continuity or consistency?

Screw consistency, why start now?

It's a brave new world. With knights. Space Knights.

What have they done to Optimus Prime's face? It hardly even looks like Optimus Prime any more.

Seibertron wrote:What have they done to Optimus Prime's face? It hardly even looks like Optimus Prime any more.

The sculpt or the paint? To me the sculpt looks perfectly fine, but he needs a considerable amount more silver paint. He strangely has the same paint layout as G1 Prime, what with being dominantly blue with a sliver mouth plate and crest on his head and blue eyes.

I like the sculpt so hopefully Takara Tomy gives us something better painted.

Emerje

Definitely looks like it needs some better paint apps. Sculpt is okay-ish though. Kinda wondering what the other offerings will look like.

Emerje wrote:

Seibertron wrote:What have they done to Optimus Prime's face? It hardly even looks like Optimus Prime any more.

The sculpt or the paint? To me the sculpt looks perfectly fine, but he needs a considerable amount more silver paint. He strangely has the same paint layout as G1 Prime, what with being dominantly blue with a sliver mouth plate and crest on his head and blue eyes.

I like the sculpt so hopefully Takara Tomy gives us something better painted.

Emerje

The sculpt and the paint. The longer these designs go on, the less recognizable even Optimus Prime has become.

WHY IS NO ONE TAKING PICTURES OF THE BACKPACK THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE

ugh

All that nicely-sculpted torso detail completely awash in solid silver. Meanwhile, his shoulder collar armor, one of the things that should be silver, is instead colored blue.

Burn wrote:It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.

But Optimus had the same look across the first three movies, with the only real difference between his look in ROTF and DOTM being his new tummy in DOTM.

This looks bad and They should feel bad.

CMI-SillySpringer wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:Looks just as bad as the leader, only thing it has going for itself is it has some paint apps. But its a test shot & that could change very quickly. Have a feeling this line is going to suck just as bad as AoE did.

Like I said, the toy seems to be built better than the Leader, and is more accurately proportioned. At least that's good. I am just hoping Takara comes out with an "Armor Knight" version of this guy with all that remolding and extra paint apps.

Why remolded it? It's been said that Prime doesn't have the upgraded arms anymore or other knight parts so I see no reason to remold however I completely agree takara is where this mold will shin. I waited for Takara last time and I ended up with Battle Command Optimus Prime AND AD31 remolded good version. (Plus the 2 hasbro leader molds ugh) I'll probably get this one until Takara releases theirs or stick with my non transforming version until takara releases theirs not sure yet

CMI-SillySpringer wrote:

Emerje wrote:

SillyMcGilly wrote:Well the chest looks completely wrong at least:

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However, that's just in comparison with the one from the last movie. Maybe the CGI render for Prime in this movie is more like this new toy than we think?

Edit: I hope Takara's also paints his sword silver instead of that stupid orange.

It's just mistransformed.

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Apparently the chest panels are meant to be swung up into place properly.

Emerje

Oh my gosh that looks way better. You are awesome Emerje!

I figured that out first over at tfw 2005 the instant the 2nd pic was released. I could see the slide marks no one was catching on so I explained it to everyone

Autobot Roadburn wrote:Are they designing a new Soundwave? I don't recognize the body, Id love it if they were making a new voyager! I still like my Takara FoC one, but an accurately scaled classics version would be great! I do realize that may be just an example of how they do their process rather than an actual figure, though.

Also the Optimus mold looks good, but looks like a lot of the detail might get lost in the blander plastics. I want to see him in hand, but I might get him if he's as complex as he looks.

I guess there is not a multipost option. Eh? Anyways I watched that LONG Chinese talking video of 51 minutes and no thar wss just to show art had nothing to do with action figures. He was showing Tmall (the Chinese girl reporter for a TV show) how Eric does quick art on the computer with the stylus like light pen (or whatever it is) & it was actually really cool. I watched it the day it was shown when we didn't know much about the voyager

transformnerd114 wrote:He looks pretty good. He also seems to be an EXTENSIVE remold of AOE Voyager Galvatron, based on the way the wheels on his legs are, as well as his shoulder armor, and even the backpack is reminiscent of Galvatron's.

as I told you over in TFW it's NOT a retool of Galvatron not even close omg bro u keep thinking thjs

Though I don't outright hate any of those Hasui toys on that list they all have some design problems. He especially seems to have a problem with hands for some reason.

As for 3-steps - I was kinda impresses by how 3-step drift transformed engineering wise it's a shame that they can't make toys that have that quick transformation and that are also more viable Action Figures too.

CdogCdog4 wrote:I guess there is not a multipost option.

There is! Just add multiple quotes to your post.

Like so:

this is a quote

I don't agree with it.

that quote is not to my liking

I agree with this one though.

silly image

This made me lol.

CdogCdog4 wrote:I guess there is not a multipost option. Eh?

If you hit reply rather than quote you can scroll down to the topic preview where you can multi-quote then.

Burn wrote:

CdogCdog4 wrote:I guess there is not a multipost option. Eh?

If you hit reply rather than quote you can scroll down to the topic preview where you can multi-quote then.

Yes this works very well and saves a lot of time too. just press any of the 'quote' buttons in the scrolling window under the composition window and they pop up in the main frame.

You may have to edit them a bit though to remove an original quote or a large block of pictures - but it's still a lot quicker that way.

RAR wrote:

Burn wrote:

CdogCdog4 wrote:I guess there is not a multipost option. Eh?

If you hit reply rather than quote you can scroll down to the topic preview where you can multi-quote then.

Yes this works very well and saves a lot of time too. just press any of the 'quote' buttons in the scrolling window under the composition window and they pop up in the main frame.

You may have to edit them a bit though to remove an original quote or a large block of pictures - but it's still a lot quicker that way.

Burn wrote:

CdogCdog4 wrote:I guess there is not a multipost option. Eh?

If you hit reply rather than quote you can scroll down to the topic preview where you can multi-quote then.

Dr Va'al wrote:

CdogCdog4 wrote:I guess there is not a multipost option.

There is! Just add multiple quotes to your post.

Like so:

this is a quote

I don't agree with it.

that quote is not to my liking

I agree with this one though.

silly image

This made me lol.

Thanks guys im just testing this out now but I understood so I appreciate it. The order may be a little off though lol

Edit* on track I actually like this figure very much I would love alot more if hasbro would do an accurate optics paint deco with the circles instead of cartoon colors in the entire eye assembly

I like it. May need a new coat of paint, but the sculpt looks good. I wanted a voyager version of the aoe Prime but obviously didnt have one so I've been waiting for one to come out for this fiolm. Might be the only figure I get from this movie.

Dr Va'al wrote:As an update to our previous story about Transformers: The Last Knight Optimus Prime, in his toy form, fellow Seibertronian Fc203 headed to Snapchat to grab some screenshots for the update from Hasbro - check the better quality of multiple angles below!

Something just doesn't look quite right, though I can't put my finger on what exactly. He kinda looks...cheap, especially compared to previous movie offerings. Not quite KO territory but close. Maybe it's the sloppy paint apps?

Black Hat wrote:Something just doesn't look quite right, though I can't put my finger on what exactly. He kinda looks...cheap, especially compared to previous movie offerings. Not quite KO territory but close. Maybe it's the sloppy paint apps?

I don't think it's anything "sloppy" about the paint apps, but rather, it looks to me like it has so much sculpted detail but not enough paint apps to really bring it all out.

My guess is Hasbro put most of the toy's budget into the sculpted detail and had to fall back on a lower amount of paint apps as a result, leaving some parts either unpainted or awash in solidly-colored paint apps that obscure those particular sculpted details.

From the official Transformers Facebook page, we have another look at what is probably the final retail version of the previously seen The Last Knight Premier Edition Optimus Prime, as featured in an 'evolution' video of the character's toys through the Paramount live-action movies, from 2007 to now, via Age of Extinction, Dark of the Moon and Revenge of the Fallen. Check out the clip, and enjoy the screenshot provided!

There's some classics in there.

Did they intentionally use the worst toys for each of those years?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Did they intentionally use the worst toys for each of those years?

Emerje

Evasion Mode Optimus is the "worst" AOE Optimus to you?

Okay,so...no 2007 or 2009 leaders? How is that fair? Is it because it'd show how the lines have actually regressed?

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:Did they intentionally use the worst toys for each of those years?

Emerje

Evasion Mode Optimus is the "worst" AOE Optimus to you?

No, but it also isn't the best version of that mold from Hasbro either.

Emerje

I'm sorry, but that video is one big joke, especially the first half. It's like the one who made it just grabbed whatever toy he had and was done with it. I mean, really:

- 2007: Titanium 3"
- 2009: first Voyager (a redeco of the 2007 one!)
- 2011: Voyager (that I kind of agree with for lack of a real alternative)
- 2014: Evasion Mode (uhm...)
- 2017: Premier Edition

Were it up to me, I'd have picked:

- 2007: Voyager or Leader
- 2009: Leader or the HftD Voyager
- 2011: Voyager
- 2014: Leader

I mean, Evasion Mode was a good toy.

Yeah, weird that they put a recolor of the 2007 voyager as the RotF toy and didn't include the Battle Blade voyager from HftD as the RotF toy instead. If they did that I could understand doing nothing but Voyager toys. Especially since there hasn't been a Leader figure announced for the new film's toyline yet.

Spider5800 wrote:Yeah, weird that they put a recolor of the 2007 voyager as the RotF toy and didn't include the Battle Blade voyager from HftD as the RotF toy instead. If they did that I could understand doing nothing but Voyager toys. Especially since there hasn't been a Leader figure announced for the new film's toyline yet.

The Leader will be Bumblebee and you know it

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:Yeah, weird that they put a recolor of the 2007 voyager as the RotF toy and didn't include the Battle Blade voyager from HftD as the RotF toy instead. If they did that I could understand doing nothing but Voyager toys. Especially since there hasn't been a Leader figure announced for the new film's toyline yet.

The Leader will be Bumblebee and you know it

Na, they're reserving the 50 different Bumblebee leader toys for the Bumblebee movie.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- 2011: Voyager (that I kind of agree with for lack of a real alternative)

I would say Ultimate Optimus Prime since that's the one they were pushing the hardest back then.

Emerje

Was Voyager Battle Blade Prime rare? I've never managed to find one at a decent price. One of those rare cases where Hasbro make a similar toy in different sizes which sure helps when trying to choose a scale in a toyline where it's so frickin' difficult to do so. I love my custom Evasion Prime but BB Prime seems the best choice for pre-Evasion (and therefore having his original movie truck mode)

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Was Voyager Battle Blade Prime rare? I've never managed to find one at a decent price. One of those rare cases where Hasbro make a similar toy in different sizes which sure helps when trying to choose a scale in a toyline where it's so frickin' difficult to do so. I love my custom Evasion Prime but BB Prime seems the best choice for pre-Evasion (and therefore having his original movie truck mode)

I suspect it is. It came out on the tail end of the HftD line, and I've noticed lots of stores skip the end of a line if they already have too much stock, so it's probably not that common. I only saw one in stores here (Colorado). It's also easily the most screen accurate of the voyager Primes, so it's in high demand as well.

You could try searching for the Wal-Mart Comettor 2-pack that came out during DotM. It has the same Prime mold, but he has his hooks instead of swords, and he's decorated to look like stars and the moon are reflecting off of him. May be cheaper/easier to find.

Spider5800 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Was Voyager Battle Blade Prime rare? I've never managed to find one at a decent price. One of those rare cases where Hasbro make a similar toy in different sizes which sure helps when trying to choose a scale in a toyline where it's so frickin' difficult to do so. I love my custom Evasion Prime but BB Prime seems the best choice for pre-Evasion (and therefore having his original movie truck mode)

I suspect it is. It came out on the tail end of the HftD line, and I've noticed lots of stores skip the end of a line if they already have too much stock, so it's probably not that common. I only saw one in stores here (Colorado). It's also easily the most screen accurate of the voyager Primes, so it's in high demand as well.

You could try searching for the Wal-Mart Comettor 2-pack that came out during DotM. It has the same Prime mold, but he has his hooks instead of swords, and he's decorated to look like stars and the moon are reflecting off of him. May be cheaper/easier to find.

Thanks. Dunno if that Wal-Mart pack came out in the UK but I'd vastly prefer the original release for colour scheme, swords and battle mask. Maybe I'll get lucky when the car boot sales start up again next year. I had some amazing TF bargains this year.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Thanks. Dunno if that Wal-Mart pack came out in the UK but I'd vastly prefer the original release for colour scheme, swords and battle mask. Maybe I'll get lucky when the car boot sales start up again next year. I had some amazing TF bargains this year.

Ah, didn't know you were in the UK. No idea if they had another version there or not. You could try looking for the Takara versions, AA-01 or AD12, though I doubt those are any cheaper.

Spider5800 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Was Voyager Battle Blade Prime rare? I've never managed to find one at a decent price. One of those rare cases where Hasbro make a similar toy in different sizes which sure helps when trying to choose a scale in a toyline where it's so frickin' difficult to do so. I love my custom Evasion Prime but BB Prime seems the best choice for pre-Evasion (and therefore having his original movie truck mode)

I suspect it is. It came out on the tail end of the HftD line,

No it didn't. It was in the second wave of Voyagers for that line out of five waves total. If anything, it was the fourth and fifth Voyager waves that were hard to find.

Sabrblade wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Was Voyager Battle Blade Prime rare? I've never managed to find one at a decent price. One of those rare cases where Hasbro make a similar toy in different sizes which sure helps when trying to choose a scale in a toyline where it's so frickin' difficult to do so. I love my custom Evasion Prime but BB Prime seems the best choice for pre-Evasion (and therefore having his original movie truck mode)

I suspect it is. It came out on the tail end of the HftD line,

No it didn't. It was in the second wave of Voyagers for that line out of five waves total. If anything, it was the fourth and fifth Voyager waves that were hard to find.

You may know the 4th and 5th wave as the "Reveal the Shield" subline imprint. For the record, "2010 line" is a more accurate description for the whole, as "Hunt for the Decepticons" was a promotional campaign, not a name used for the line.

The Transformers Facebook Page has released a new picture for us to check out, this time in the form of the toy packaging for the upcoming voyager class Premier Edition Optimus Prime! The new packaging features a new image of Prime charging out out of the lower left corner, with the toy itself visible through the window, much like the regular voyager releases of late. It also has The Last Knight logo on the bottom below the name, along with Transformers printed vertically along the right side. Check out the image below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!