Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment
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Anyone who had hopes up for a "Live Action" Beast Wars film may want to tone down some expectations. With the Bumblebee movie opening in Japan, Lorenzo Di Bonaventura was back for some more interviews. While the latest interview is in Japanese, and certain aspects may be lost in translation, there are some key points that we can get from it.
Mainly, that they way Paramount is set to do a Beast Wars film would not be financially viable. The estimates for a full running time Beast Wars live action film would be $450 Million USD. And Lorenzo was quick to point out that investors would not pay that. This does not mean that there couldn't be a Beast Wars themed segment or elements in another film. The fact that Paramount is also unsure about the interest in a Beast Wars themed movie from the general public is also an issue.
You can read the full interview from The River here and translate it for yourself and let us know what you derive from it.
Mainly, that they way Paramount is set to do a Beast Wars film would not be financially viable. The estimates for a full running time Beast Wars live action film would be $450 Million USD. And Lorenzo was quick to point out that investors would not pay that. This does not mean that there couldn't be a Beast Wars themed segment or elements in another film. The fact that Paramount is also unsure about the interest in a Beast Wars themed movie from the general public is also an issue.
You can read the full interview from The River here and translate it for yourself and let us know what you derive from it.
Credit(s): The River
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Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014469)
Posted by Agent 53 on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:28pm CDT
Posted by Agent 53 on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:28pm CDT
I've said it before, I'll say it again, given the Human-Light (like the weight of a grain of sugar compared to a brick) nature of a Beast Wars Film, wouldn't it make sense for it to be a fully animated film, like the proposed Cybertron film? That's got to be cheaper and easier for them, and these days with animation they can get pretty close to reality anyway.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014471)
Posted by william-james88 on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:35pm CDT
Yeah, thats the part I dont understand. Just make it animated.
Posted by william-james88 on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:35pm CDT
Agent 53 wrote:I've said it before, I'll say it again, given the Human-Light (like the weight of a grain of sugar compared to a brick) nature of a Beast Wars Film, wouldn't it make sense for it to be a fully animated film, like the proposed Cybertron film? That's got to be cheaper and easier for them, and these days with animation they can get pretty close to reality anyway.
Yeah, thats the part I dont understand. Just make it animated.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014472)
Posted by angtre on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:44pm CDT
Posted by angtre on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:44pm CDT
It's because Mr. Bay likes explosions, and living wild animals are expensive.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014473)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:49pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on March 13th, 2019 @ 12:49pm CDT
I love Beast Wars but I don't think we really especially need a BW movie. Slightly dodgy 90s CGI aside the cartoon was fine as is.
BW characters in movies though? Yes please, a new-movieverse Blackarachnia would be great! (And Venus Terzo thinks so too!)
BW characters in movies though? Yes please, a new-movieverse Blackarachnia would be great! (And Venus Terzo thinks so too!)
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014474)
Posted by o.supreme on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:00pm CDT
Actually this confirms my suspicions from the beginning, and BW is only being used as a scapegoat of sorts. There is a big difference between really good Animation produced for TV (i.e. TF Prime), and cinema quality animation (Pixar, or say the first 3 minuets of the BB Movie).
Personally, though the series is approaching a decade old, I would have loved to see Predacons Rising Theatrically, I'm one of the few who saw the Clone Wars movie in theaters back in 2008, because I love animation, but the Box Office numbers don't lie. Though it was profitable by far, the lack of response from audiences deem it a flop to this day...
Animation for the first 3 minuets of BB probably were way more expensive than say...any 3 minutes of human characters with no effects shots.
The BB movie cost approximately 135M to produce, and has a run time of 114 minutes (I realize that includes credits) However, for the sake of argument, if you break that down evenly, that is roughly 1.18M per minute of screen time. If we then multiply that by 3 , you get 3.54M for that beginning 3 minute sequence. I'm just guessing, however, I wouldn't be surprised if the budget for that opening to be fully rendered was probably closer to 10M or more once it was all said and done.
So the problem of an all *animated* TF movie is not exclusive to BW, it is in fact the reason why we haven't had one up until now. Filming Humans on studio sets is obviously simpler and less expensive (On location cost is debatable, depending on the location). Of course, if you all think like me, and are perfectly good with a great *TV Quality* animated film, being released theatrically, then I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue, unfortunately I don't think Paramount sees it that way.
Posted by o.supreme on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:00pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Agent 53 wrote:I've said it before, I'll say it again, given the Human-Light (like the weight of a grain of sugar compared to a brick) nature of a Beast Wars Film, wouldn't it make sense for it to be a fully animated film, like the proposed Cybertron film? That's got to be cheaper and easier for them, and these days with animation they can get pretty close to reality anyway.
Yeah, thats the part I dont understand. Just make it animated.
Actually this confirms my suspicions from the beginning, and BW is only being used as a scapegoat of sorts. There is a big difference between really good Animation produced for TV (i.e. TF Prime), and cinema quality animation (Pixar, or say the first 3 minuets of the BB Movie).
Personally, though the series is approaching a decade old, I would have loved to see Predacons Rising Theatrically, I'm one of the few who saw the Clone Wars movie in theaters back in 2008, because I love animation, but the Box Office numbers don't lie. Though it was profitable by far, the lack of response from audiences deem it a flop to this day...
Animation for the first 3 minuets of BB probably were way more expensive than say...any 3 minutes of human characters with no effects shots.
The BB movie cost approximately 135M to produce, and has a run time of 114 minutes (I realize that includes credits) However, for the sake of argument, if you break that down evenly, that is roughly 1.18M per minute of screen time. If we then multiply that by 3 , you get 3.54M for that beginning 3 minute sequence. I'm just guessing, however, I wouldn't be surprised if the budget for that opening to be fully rendered was probably closer to 10M or more once it was all said and done.
So the problem of an all *animated* TF movie is not exclusive to BW, it is in fact the reason why we haven't had one up until now. Filming Humans on studio sets is obviously simpler and less expensive (On location cost is debatable, depending on the location). Of course, if you all think like me, and are perfectly good with a great *TV Quality* animated film, being released theatrically, then I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue, unfortunately I don't think Paramount sees it that way.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014475)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:01pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:01pm CDT
They should just hire Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio to write it and call it a day. Have them create a follow up to Season 3 that can replace *shudder* Beast Machines.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014476)
Posted by Randomhero on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:06pm CDT
You talking traditional, cell shaded or CGI when you guys say animated?
I mean I understand to a point saying too expensive. They probably want it to look real like jungle book or Lion King because they know that works but don’t wanna sink too much in on the chance the general audience won’t like animals turning into robots.
Beast wars is great but past ten years it’s become a bit of an underdog and a gamble.
Disagree with me but we all know beast wars has become a sliver of 4 years in a now 35 year franchise
Posted by Randomhero on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:06pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Agent 53 wrote:I've said it before, I'll say it again, given the Human-Light (like the weight of a grain of sugar compared to a brick) nature of a Beast Wars Film, wouldn't it make sense for it to be a fully animated film, like the proposed Cybertron film? That's got to be cheaper and easier for them, and these days with animation they can get pretty close to reality anyway.
Yeah, thats the part I dont understand. Just make it animated.
You talking traditional, cell shaded or CGI when you guys say animated?
I mean I understand to a point saying too expensive. They probably want it to look real like jungle book or Lion King because they know that works but don’t wanna sink too much in on the chance the general audience won’t like animals turning into robots.
Beast wars is great but past ten years it’s become a bit of an underdog and a gamble.
Disagree with me but we all know beast wars has become a sliver of 4 years in a now 35 year franchise
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014478)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by Dr. Caelus on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:19pm CDT
I assumed by 'live action' they meant something like the new Lion King movie that's coming out. Animated, but... photorealistic?
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014479)
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:25pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:25pm CDT
Great news 
Happy to hear that they will not be doing a live action film of it. Would prefer a remastered version of the series but that's not likely to happen.
Happy to hear that they will not be doing a live action film of it. Would prefer a remastered version of the series but that's not likely to happen.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014480)
Posted by o.supreme on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:28pm CDT
Exactly. Another example of this is the Disney film Dinosaur which came out in 2000 (almost 20 years ago), but for the time, was the most expensive animated film ever made. 128M budget for an 82 minute film. Of course, DiBonaventura's comments could be coming from the fact that none of bay's films were less than 2 hours, but a ton of money could be saved, if the length was cut to 90 minutes.
Even with inflation, I could see a budget of less than 200 million, if they kept the film to 90 minutes (BW or Original series based...), but again, I understand the risk of BW world wide recognition being a factor.
Posted by o.supreme on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:28pm CDT
Caelus wrote:I assumed by 'live action' they meant something like the new Lion King movie that's coming out. Animated, but... photorealistic?
Exactly. Another example of this is the Disney film Dinosaur which came out in 2000 (almost 20 years ago), but for the time, was the most expensive animated film ever made. 128M budget for an 82 minute film. Of course, DiBonaventura's comments could be coming from the fact that none of bay's films were less than 2 hours, but a ton of money could be saved, if the length was cut to 90 minutes.
Even with inflation, I could see a budget of less than 200 million, if they kept the film to 90 minutes (BW or Original series based...), but again, I understand the risk of BW world wide recognition being a factor.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014481)
Posted by ScottyP on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:29pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on March 13th, 2019 @ 1:29pm CDT
To borrow a phrase from our local sports talk radio station's afternoon hosts, my fanslation of it is this: Lorenzo di Bonaventura says a lot of words that may or may not actually mean anything when they're accurately transcribed in English, and these words make even less sense when Google translates them from a Japanese translation of part of a Chinese article. Also, he may or may not like Cheetor and Waspinator.william-james88 wrote:translate it for yourself and let us know what you derive from it.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014486)
Posted by CrazyDraisey on March 13th, 2019 @ 3:02pm CDT
Posted by CrazyDraisey on March 13th, 2019 @ 3:02pm CDT
If anyone wants to help me out, I'm working on a Beast Wars: Transformers movie pitch. It's going to reference 5 specific episodes of Season 1.
"Beast Wars Part 1"
"Beast Wars Part 2"
"Power Surge"
"The Spark"
"Call of the Wild"
Out of all the Transformers series, Beast Wars has the most potential to show the true challenges of surviving on a foreign planet. Not to mention the incredible odds the Maximals had to face during their first few days on prehistoric Earth.
My goal is to work out a first draft script and a 90 second movie trailer. If anyone can help me out with 3D assets I'll really appreciate it. Email me at John.Draisey@gmail.com
"Beast Wars Part 1"
"Beast Wars Part 2"
"Power Surge"
"The Spark"
"Call of the Wild"
Out of all the Transformers series, Beast Wars has the most potential to show the true challenges of surviving on a foreign planet. Not to mention the incredible odds the Maximals had to face during their first few days on prehistoric Earth.
My goal is to work out a first draft script and a 90 second movie trailer. If anyone can help me out with 3D assets I'll really appreciate it. Email me at John.Draisey@gmail.com
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014494)
Posted by CrazyDraisey on March 13th, 2019 @ 3:45pm CDT
Posted by CrazyDraisey on March 13th, 2019 @ 3:45pm CDT
Basically this IP has been deemed too risky because it's old and there isn't much visible demand. But at a cost of around $50,000 per shot, and 2000 shots for an average action film, the movie could be made for $100 million. That could be recouped just in the film's opening weekend.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014500)
Posted by adamage1 on March 13th, 2019 @ 4:49pm CDT
Posted by adamage1 on March 13th, 2019 @ 4:49pm CDT
Good. Beast Wars should stay dead.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014504)
Posted by Randomhero on March 13th, 2019 @ 5:29pm CDT
You’re trolling right? Because if you’re not than I can’t even to start with what you’re saying
Posted by Randomhero on March 13th, 2019 @ 5:29pm CDT
CrazyDraisey wrote:Basically this IP has been deemed too risky because it's old and there isn't much visible demand. But at a cost of around $50,000 per shot, and 2000 shots for an average action film, the movie could be made for $100 million. That could be recouped just in the film's opening weekend.
You’re trolling right? Because if you’re not than I can’t even to start with what you’re saying
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014505)
Posted by william-james88 on March 13th, 2019 @ 5:30pm CDT
You saying opening weekend will make 200 million?
Posted by william-james88 on March 13th, 2019 @ 5:30pm CDT
CrazyDraisey wrote:Basically this IP has been deemed too risky because it's old and there isn't much visible demand. But at a cost of around $50,000 per shot, and 2000 shots for an average action film, the movie could be made for $100 million. That could be recouped just in the film's opening weekend.
You saying opening weekend will make 200 million?
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014506)
Posted by Randomhero on March 13th, 2019 @ 5:38pm CDT
My brain hurts after reading his posts...I smell burnt feathers...
Posted by Randomhero on March 13th, 2019 @ 5:38pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:CrazyDraisey wrote:Basically this IP has been deemed too risky because it's old and there isn't much visible demand. But at a cost of around $50,000 per shot, and 2000 shots for an average action film, the movie could be made for $100 million. That could be recouped just in the film's opening weekend.
You saying opening weekend will make 200 million?
My brain hurts after reading his posts...I smell burnt feathers...
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014513)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 13th, 2019 @ 6:08pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 13th, 2019 @ 6:08pm CDT
So that's a 'no' to the potential (Read: Fan service, name drop only) Beast Wars "Movie"...
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014540)
Posted by CrazyDraisey on March 13th, 2019 @ 7:31pm CDT
Haha, no don't have a stroke! I'm serious, if the characters are done right then opening weekend could be $200 million easily. Just look at how much demand the Takara Masterpiece Beast Wars figures have right now.
Posted by CrazyDraisey on March 13th, 2019 @ 7:31pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:CrazyDraisey wrote:Basically this IP has been deemed too risky because it's old and there isn't much visible demand. But at a cost of around $50,000 per shot, and 2000 shots for an average action film, the movie could be made for $100 million. That could be recouped just in the film's opening weekend.
You saying opening weekend will make 200 million?
My brain hurts after reading his posts...I smell burnt feathers...
Haha, no don't have a stroke! I'm serious, if the characters are done right then opening weekend could be $200 million easily. Just look at how much demand the Takara Masterpiece Beast Wars figures have right now.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014555)
Posted by CrazyDraisey on March 13th, 2019 @ 7:59pm CDT
Posted by CrazyDraisey on March 13th, 2019 @ 7:59pm CDT
I think a full on Beast Wars movie series could be done, so long as it's no more than 6 films. There is a definite beginning, middle and end like you guys said. And there's also some weird series decisions that were definitely toy refresh driven, like Dragon Megatron (makes no sense) and Transmetal 2.
But overall, the strong characters and the potential for true exploration of guerrilla warfare tactics and CQC is hard to pass up. I'm working on a film treatment right now that pulls from 5 episodes of Season 1, the most important of which is Call of the Wild.
But overall, the strong characters and the potential for true exploration of guerrilla warfare tactics and CQC is hard to pass up. I'm working on a film treatment right now that pulls from 5 episodes of Season 1, the most important of which is Call of the Wild.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014594)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 14th, 2019 @ 7:36am CDT
I liked transmetal 2 though, the designs were very unique and made sense looking at them via Megatrons experimentation.
In terms of your budget figures, have you compared the budget to other animated films? Biggest comparison I can think of would be the How to train your dragon series (by virtue of action to characters)?
I think the other factors outweigh any benefits you could point out, how well known is beast wars outside the fandom? What about other markets around the world?
Using bw mp preorders as examples of interest isn't going to work as the number of pre-orders isn't as big as you need to support a movie.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 14th, 2019 @ 7:36am CDT
CrazyDraisey wrote:I think a full on Beast Wars movie series could be done, so long as it's no more than 6 films. There is a definite beginning, middle and end like you guys said. And there's also some weird series decisions that were definitely toy refresh driven, like Dragon Megatron (makes no sense) and Transmetal 2.
But overall, the strong characters and the potential for true exploration of guerrilla warfare tactics and CQC is hard to pass up. I'm working on a film treatment right now that pulls from 5 episodes of Season 1, the most important of which is Call of the Wild.
I liked transmetal 2 though, the designs were very unique and made sense looking at them via Megatrons experimentation.
In terms of your budget figures, have you compared the budget to other animated films? Biggest comparison I can think of would be the How to train your dragon series (by virtue of action to characters)?
I think the other factors outweigh any benefits you could point out, how well known is beast wars outside the fandom? What about other markets around the world?
Using bw mp preorders as examples of interest isn't going to work as the number of pre-orders isn't as big as you need to support a movie.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014613)
Posted by Galactic Prime on March 14th, 2019 @ 10:15am CDT
Posted by Galactic Prime on March 14th, 2019 @ 10:15am CDT
Beast wars sucks, if people want to watch something as ridiculous as this there's a Disney movie called the Jungle Book, go watch it, it should be about the speed for the knuckle draggers
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014653)
Posted by Manterax Prime on March 14th, 2019 @ 2:10pm CDT
G1 should stay dead.
Posted by Manterax Prime on March 14th, 2019 @ 2:10pm CDT
adamage1 wrote:Good. Beast Wars should stay dead.
G1 should stay dead.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014656)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 14th, 2019 @ 2:47pm CDT
Transmetal 2 was the happy middle ground between the Season One "organics" and Season Two Transmetals. I liked all three design eras myself (alongside the Vehicons from Beast Machines) As said before though, Beast Wars told it's tale. Anything else would be a bastardisation of what came before IE The FIRST award-winning series in Transformers history.
Personally, I've never really revisited Season One very often, although a little more than Season Three. Season Two struck the balance in tone and story-telling that I enjoyed most.
Overall, you would need a LOT of context to even make something like Beast Wars into a film in the first place. More context than exists in the current vapid Live Action universe. I don't think current general audiences have the patience for the amount of pre-existing world building a Future-based series needs. Low-brow Geewun sells in Live Action. With pew,pews, explosions etc
Although the diminishing returns from general audiences suggests even that has limits. When it comes to the success of these movies, it is general audiences that matter. Fans don't and Fanboys even less so. We aren't the group that generate revenue in the millions/billions, as we don't number that high.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 14th, 2019 @ 2:47pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:CrazyDraisey wrote:I think a full on Beast Wars movie series could be done, so long as it's no more than 6 films. There is a definite beginning, middle and end like you guys said. And there's also some weird series decisions that were definitely toy refresh driven, like Dragon Megatron (makes no sense) and Transmetal 2.
But overall, the strong characters and the potential for true exploration of guerrilla warfare tactics and CQC is hard to pass up. I'm working on a film treatment right now that pulls from 5 episodes of Season 1, the most important of which is Call of the Wild.
I liked transmetal 2 though, the designs were very unique and made sense looking at them via Megatrons experimentation.
In terms of your budget figures, have you compared the budget to other animated films? Biggest comparison I can think of would be the How to train your dragon series (by virtue of action to characters)?
I think the other factors outweigh any benefits you could point out, how well known is beast wars outside the fandom? What about other markets around the world?
Using bw mp preorders as examples of interest isn't going to work as the number of pre-orders isn't as big as you need to support a movie.
Transmetal 2 was the happy middle ground between the Season One "organics" and Season Two Transmetals. I liked all three design eras myself (alongside the Vehicons from Beast Machines) As said before though, Beast Wars told it's tale. Anything else would be a bastardisation of what came before IE The FIRST award-winning series in Transformers history.
Personally, I've never really revisited Season One very often, although a little more than Season Three. Season Two struck the balance in tone and story-telling that I enjoyed most.
Overall, you would need a LOT of context to even make something like Beast Wars into a film in the first place. More context than exists in the current vapid Live Action universe. I don't think current general audiences have the patience for the amount of pre-existing world building a Future-based series needs. Low-brow Geewun sells in Live Action. With pew,pews, explosions etc
Although the diminishing returns from general audiences suggests even that has limits. When it comes to the success of these movies, it is general audiences that matter. Fans don't and Fanboys even less so. We aren't the group that generate revenue in the millions/billions, as we don't number that high.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2014660)
Posted by Cobotron on March 14th, 2019 @ 3:25pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on March 14th, 2019 @ 3:25pm CDT
Your opinions are always welcome here. As far as the name calling, not welcome here. Take it easy.Galactic Prime wrote:Beast wars sucks, if people want to watch something as ridiculous as this there's a Disney movie called the Jungle Book, go watch it, it should be about the speed for the knuckle draggers
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2015517)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 21st, 2019 @ 12:35pm CDT
Well, this post aged poorly.
For real, I'd rather BW characters/concepts got grafted into the new movieverse continuity than attempt to make a "Beast Wars movie". I'd also rather they went with purely mechanical animals as opposed to trying to go with "realistic" alt modes.
Posted by Evil Eye on March 21st, 2019 @ 12:35pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:They should just hire Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio to write it and call it a day. Have them create a follow up to Season 3 that can replace *shudder* Beast Machines.
Well, this post aged poorly.
For real, I'd rather BW characters/concepts got grafted into the new movieverse continuity than attempt to make a "Beast Wars movie". I'd also rather they went with purely mechanical animals as opposed to trying to go with "realistic" alt modes.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2015518)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 21st, 2019 @ 12:38pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 21st, 2019 @ 12:38pm CDT
Simply put, Beast Wars as it was, could not be replicated today. It would more than likely be bastardised akin to the Japanese dub of Season One, Teen Titans GO!, Thundercats Roar! etc
Better to leave it with it's prestige and respect in place.
Better to leave it with it's prestige and respect in place.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2015606)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 22nd, 2019 @ 9:43am CDT
Ya know, I was thinking this exact thing when the news broke.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 22nd, 2019 @ 9:43am CDT
Black Hat wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:They should just hire Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio to write it and call it a day. Have them create a follow up to Season 3 that can replace *shudder* Beast Machines.
Well, this post aged poorly.
Ya know, I was thinking this exact thing when the news broke.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2024319)
Posted by TulioDude on June 12th, 2019 @ 10:10pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on June 12th, 2019 @ 10:10pm CDT
I would be very interrested in a Beast Wars movie.I'm already made peace with the fact that, no adaptation is going to be a 100% transition.
If peolpe are wondering how this would fit the previous movies,they already have set a precedent for Transformers fighting in pre-historic times.
We saw the g1 versions of these characters remade time and time again,it would be neat to acknowledge the other versions of the series that have been made over the years
If peolpe are wondering how this would fit the previous movies,they already have set a precedent for Transformers fighting in pre-historic times.
We saw the g1 versions of these characters remade time and time again,it would be neat to acknowledge the other versions of the series that have been made over the years
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2024737)
Posted by STngAR on June 16th, 2019 @ 12:20am CDT
Posted by STngAR on June 16th, 2019 @ 12:20am CDT
So I got a little excited when I saw the title of this post but as I read all 4 pages my brain feels like .... 
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2024845)
Posted by TulioDude on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:48pm CDT
Never give up hope!It can always happen!
Posted by TulioDude on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:48pm CDT
STngAR wrote:So I got a little excited when I saw the title of this post but as I read all 4 pages my brain feels like ....
Never give up hope!It can always happen!
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069793)
Posted by TulioDude on June 29th, 2020 @ 10:23am CDT
Posted by TulioDude on June 29th, 2020 @ 10:23am CDT
Fan art by DeviantArt user TGping
http://fav.me/dduwggh
I imagine if the Beast Wars characters are used,their translation for movies will be something along these lines.
I would be okay with that.
http://fav.me/dduwggh
I imagine if the Beast Wars characters are used,their translation for movies will be something along these lines.
I would be okay with that.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069794)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2020 @ 10:29am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2020 @ 10:29am CDT
I feel like you might be a little optimistic about this movie 
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069796)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:11am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:11am CDT
If that’s optimism, then this project really is doomed. 
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069797)
Posted by TulioDude on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:21am CDT
Posted by TulioDude on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:21am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If that’s optimism, then this project really is doomed.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069799)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:32am CDT
I'd have thought since the Bumblebee movie, people would embrace a more streamlined design aesthetic. Not over-designed 'skittles-on-a-page just for the sake of it' approach of Bayformers.
For example, don't get me wrong that is a nice image BUT, why does T-Rex Megatron have bat wings on his head?
To re-iterate, the entire idea behind Beast Wars is that it is a legacy series. The evolution of the Cybertronian race.
If this is what the Autobots/Decepticons of Bumblebee look like, it stands to reason their technology will visually appear even simpler in their descendants.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:32am CDT
I'd have thought since the Bumblebee movie, people would embrace a more streamlined design aesthetic. Not over-designed 'skittles-on-a-page just for the sake of it' approach of Bayformers.
For example, don't get me wrong that is a nice image BUT, why does T-Rex Megatron have bat wings on his head?
To re-iterate, the entire idea behind Beast Wars is that it is a legacy series. The evolution of the Cybertronian race.
If this is what the Autobots/Decepticons of Bumblebee look like, it stands to reason their technology will visually appear even simpler in their descendants.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069800)
Posted by TulioDude on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:35am CDT
Because of the original toy.
Posted by TulioDude on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:35am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote::lol:
For example, don't get me wrong that is a nice image BUT, why does T-Rex Megatron have bat wings on his head?
Because of the original toy.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069801)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:40am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:40am CDT
That was a Mutant Mask, still not Bat wings.
This is the closest a Megatron has come to having that in his design and they are still Not Wings. This being in spite of the fact that particular design both transforms into a bat and already has wing kibble as part of his design.
To me the image is more inspired by anime, Guyver in particular, than anything beyond a superficial association with Beast Wars.
This is the closest a Megatron has come to having that in his design and they are still Not Wings. This being in spite of the fact that particular design both transforms into a bat and already has wing kibble as part of his design.
To me the image is more inspired by anime, Guyver in particular, than anything beyond a superficial association with Beast Wars.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069802)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:45am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:45am CDT
Is that one of the robots from the Sonic Saturday morning cartoon show?
I think it's a bit foolhardy to imagine that they'd stick to that level of accuracy regarding bot form. In no way is that saying you can't be optimistic, just make sure you don't get your feelings hurt when reality shows itself (if it ever does, still unlikely we'll get a beast wars movie. All depends on how the next two movies go I reckon)
I think it's a bit foolhardy to imagine that they'd stick to that level of accuracy regarding bot form. In no way is that saying you can't be optimistic, just make sure you don't get your feelings hurt when reality shows itself (if it ever does, still unlikely we'll get a beast wars movie. All depends on how the next two movies go I reckon)
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069803)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:48am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:48am CDT
I'm more hopeful the film doesn't see the light of day. Since it is only being made to cash in on the brand name.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069804)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:55am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2020 @ 11:55am CDT
Don't forget as well AllNew, Bee is still supposed to act as prequel to TF 07,so those simpler designs don't end up so simple
I don't think we're getting the classic storyline on the big screen, which is probably the best outcome. Instead it'll be a movie where robots turn into animals with a title of Beast Wars
I don't think we're getting the classic storyline on the big screen, which is probably the best outcome. Instead it'll be a movie where robots turn into animals with a title of Beast Wars
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069805)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 12:01pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 12:01pm CDT
They still say 'prequel' even though it clearly isn't.
It isn't just the "classic" storyline though. It is the entire concept behind the show. To just throw the superficial aspect of it onscreen, without context, would have been like putting in Picard, Sisco & Janeway into Star Trek '09.
It isn't just the "classic" storyline though. It is the entire concept behind the show. To just throw the superficial aspect of it onscreen, without context, would have been like putting in Picard, Sisco & Janeway into Star Trek '09.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069806)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2020 @ 12:07pm CDT
Don't give them ideas!
Besides there wasn't anything in Bee that wouldn't have worked in 07, not that the bay films really kept themselves to continuity what with each film making more and more plot holes. It'll be Bee 2 that breaks continuity.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2020 @ 12:07pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:They still say 'prequel' even though it clearly isn't.
It isn't just the "classic" storyline though. It is the entire concept behind the show. To just throw the superficial aspect of it onscreen, without context, would have been like putting in Picard, Sisco & Janeway into Star Trek '09.
Don't give them ideas!
Besides there wasn't anything in Bee that wouldn't have worked in 07, not that the bay films really kept themselves to continuity what with each film making more and more plot holes. It'll be Bee 2 that breaks continuity.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069813)
Posted by TulioDude on June 29th, 2020 @ 3:15pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on June 29th, 2020 @ 3:15pm CDT
I just to want to stir some discussion in movie forum.
Having an Beast Wars adaptation,doesn't mean they have to squeeze the whole series into movies,because it's not a case of choosing this or nothing at all.
Having an Beast Wars adaptation,doesn't mean they have to squeeze the whole series into movies,because it's not a case of choosing this or nothing at all.
Re: Beast Wars Film Said to be too Expensive to Make at the Moment (2069814)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 3:24pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2020 @ 3:24pm CDT
The best case scenario for Beast Wars is the continuation of the Masterpiece Line and anniversary re-releases of the show.
Beast Wars isn't malleable like G1. G1 was so bare bones the only real staples were basically voice overs and visual cues. So it could be redesigned into anything IE Sunbow to Bayformers.
Beast Wars was a product of a different time with a different ethos. Lightning in a bottle. That it would be a mistake for lesser creatives to try to replicate, simply to fleece that brand name for the sake of nostalgia.
Beast Wars isn't malleable like G1. G1 was so bare bones the only real staples were basically voice overs and visual cues. So it could be redesigned into anything IE Sunbow to Bayformers.
Beast Wars was a product of a different time with a different ethos. Lightning in a bottle. That it would be a mistake for lesser creatives to try to replicate, simply to fleece that brand name for the sake of nostalgia.
