Beast Hunters Shockwave And Ultra Magnus In Package Pics, With Bios

RhA wrote:Shockwave; proudly transforming in to nothing at all since 2004.

Wahahahahaha

That's why he can have a solid robot mode all the time.
Not complaining on that point.

Wouldn't it be nice if he isn't a partsformer and the cannon stays attached at all times.

RhA wrote:Shockwave; proudly transforming in to nothing at all since 2004.

The robot mode is awesome, so there.

That said, I actually kinda like his H tank mode. It's giving me some G1 Galvatron/Armada Megatron vibes.

Burn wrote:ugh ... Magnus ... what the hell happened to you. You've gone from being a poor man's white Prime to just ... yeah, that.

... a poor man's blue Prime?


Well, there was his original PRID Voyager:

Shockwave you are mine!

WTF Magnus, someones stolen your paint. I can just imagine his instruction sheet now...

1. Open box
2. Remove the forge
3. Throw the rest in the trash

Not a patch on the PRiD version IMO.

Double post.

Am I the only one who hates the blue on magnus?

The PRID Voyager already had horrible blue... and now this is lighter than allspark blue. It's just ...

The cyberverse Magnus has the best shade of blue IMO.

Shockwave does not look too bad... Except for crab mode.

I kinda like Magnus' blue...
Also I was wshing that the the blue autobot sigil was a Wrecker sigil, now all hopes are gone.

Mykltron wrote:Wouldn't it be nice if he isn't a partsformer and the cannon stays attached at all times.

He isn't, his instructions are already in the hasbro database and there is not partsforming.

MightyMagnus78 wrote:Shockwave you are mine!

WTF Magnus, someones stolen your paint. I can just imagine his instruction sheet now...

1. Open box
2. Remove the forge
3. Throw the rest in the trash

Not a patch on the PRiD version IMO.

This.


And Shockwave's h tank mode... if there were some way to retool his arm cannon, I could see it as being TransTech Megatron.

i may already have the PRiD ultramagnus but i will be getting this one as well. you can never have too many ultra magnus. and shit i cant wait to get shockwave.

I'll get that Shockwave.

Ultra Magnus.....skip... I'll keep the first version of him from this line. At least it was a unique mold. Although I find this ones hammer superior, I'm not spending 23+ dollars on a hammer.

Why couldn't Prime UM have just came with that hammer , i wounder if Thundertron gets a BH make over and an actual sword he can hold.

I wish they would have kept Magnus's cab over mold.

I really wish Hasbro would just give Shockwave some kind of speed boat mode so he could look like SOMETHING while keeping this bad ass robot mode.

My problem with Magnus is that his original mold is more than good enough to warrant a Beast Hunters remold. Maybe it's just me, but despite the short vehicle mold, I like the Magnus mold way more than the Optimus mold. But again, maybe that's just me...

I love Shockwave all the time, and I'm thrilled that we're getting a Shockwave figure, but I DO wish that for once he would have a proper 'earth-vehicle' mode.

All-in-all, with Wheeljack's new armor, and all the Predacons, I'm pretty pleased with this line. The one thing that would make it perfect is a Breakdown with removable armor. I don care if he's dead, we are getting a Dreadwing after all.

Eh even with its horrible shoulder joints, which just boggles me sometimes, the prid version is better. This magnus is just too light blue.

Is it me or does Shockwave seem vaguely Toy Story-esque? Like he's got that exaggerated, simplified style TS has. Or maybe he's just dimly reminiscent of Emperor Zurg...
That mutant crab/tank mode is so ridiculous it's kind of awesome.

UM going from a unique mold to blue retool of OP is a massive step down.

I can't say I love what look to be relatively immovable feet, but other than that, I can find nothing wrong with Shockwave.

This figure shall be a purchase-on-sight.

So Shocky wont have the ammo belt, or i just cant see it?

Shockwave will be mine... Magnus.. Meh, I have the other version and am happy with that one.

Meantoy wrote:So Shocky wont have the ammo belt, or i just cant see it?

He has one, it's formed by the tank treads, it's just not shown in these pics for whatever reason.

For all the previous Magnus' faults I prefer him over this one. The unique mould is always a plus for me. The only reason I can think of for releasing this too is that if he appears in the show, they can reuse op's cgi model and have it tweaked rather tha commission a new rig from scratch.

In honesty I prefer FOC shockwave, but I will get this one nonetheless. He'll be my first shockwave ever.

Holding off on PRiD Optimus Prime has paid off... Mostly. Now I can't decide between PRiD and BH Magnus, flatnose or long nose.

Shockwave's future acquisition is only logical, unification with other Shockwaves is mandatory.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Shockwave's future acquisition is only logical, unification with other Shockwaves is mandatory.

Affirmative. Skyquake/Dreadwing no longer necessary.

Shockwave is awesome. Not replacing FoC Shockwave for me, but still awesome.

Magnus is fail. Good thing I have the PRID version.

Shockwave looks amazing! I can't wait! UM, on the other hand, would be much better a few shades darker; I really like the remold though.

Shockwave is a MUST!!!!! Anyone who doesn't want Shockwave is not a Transformers fan.

Also, seems I'm part of the group that wants all 3 versions of Magnus (Platinum being the 3rd). I love that we're gatting a new voyager, but I must ask, why his shoulders hurt?

Manterax Prime wrote:Shockwave is a MUST!!!!! Anyone who doesn't want Shockwave is not a Transformers fan.

don't tell me what makes me a transformers fan.

craggy wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:Shockwave is a MUST!!!!! Anyone who doesn't want Shockwave is not a Transformers fan.

don't tell me what makes me a transformers fan.

I'm joking....

I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

They cut Breakdown out (and don't listen to their excuses or "reasons" why, it's bull), they make TWO versions of all the major players (First Edition, then PRID), and now they're doing it again.

Optimus, I get. He's going to be redesigned in the show, he's THE major character, okay. A new Bulkhead and Starscream as well? That's the 3rd mold for those characters, so far. In the same toyline. (I don't care if it's considered a subline or has a tagline or whatever, it's all Prime.)

Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

I'm not sure BH Starscream or Bulkhead are cutting costs. Maybe if they were slight remolds of previously released figures, but they're not. At least Magnus I can understand, sort of. He's a retool, which presumably is cheaper than making a new mold (lets ignore the fact that there's already a unique mold for Magnus) but screamer and bulk are pretty much brand new. I think the BH SS does use a similar transformation scheme to FE Screamer, but doesn't look like they share any parts.

I don't think many of the characters in the show will end up looking like their revamped BH toy designs anyway (Prime seems likely, but dunno about the rest that aren't new) but I suppose Hasbro reckons a new toy with a name kids are already familiar with will sell better than one with a brand new name (like Autobot RoadBuster for Double-BH for example) so have kept the new toys designs vaguely familiar as well.

craggy wrote:I'm not sure BH Starscream or Bulkhead are cutting costs. Maybe if they were slight remolds of previously released figures, but they're not.

That's my point.

Autobot032 wrote:I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

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Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

If Ultra Magnus shows up in season 3, giving him his own CGI model would mean more money to spend when it could go to another new character. Recoloring and modifying the old Optimus model for Ultra Magnus doesn't stretch their budget to infinity and beyond, and they can give us another character.

Autobot032 wrote:I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

They cut Breakdown out (and don't listen to their excuses or "reasons" why, it's bull), they make TWO versions of all the major players (First Edition, then PRID), and now they're doing it again.

Optimus, I get. He's going to be redesigned in the show, he's THE major character, okay. A new Bulkhead and Starscream as well? That's the 3rd mold for those characters, so far. In the same toyline. (I don't care if it's considered a subline or has a tagline or whatever, it's all Prime.)

Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

With the excetion of RID, Animated, Energon and PRID, Ultra Magnus has ALWAYS been a repaint/retool of an existing Prime mold.

Why start complaining now?

Manterax Prime wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

They cut Breakdown out (and don't listen to their excuses or "reasons" why, it's bull), they make TWO versions of all the major players (First Edition, then PRID), and now they're doing it again.

Optimus, I get. He's going to be redesigned in the show, he's THE major character, okay. A new Bulkhead and Starscream as well? That's the 3rd mold for those characters, so far. In the same toyline. (I don't care if it's considered a subline or has a tagline or whatever, it's all Prime.)

Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

With the excetion of RID, Animated, Energon and PRID, Ultra Magnus has ALWAYS been a repaint/retool of an existing Prime mold.

Why start complaining now?

I'm not complaining about Magnus, specifically. I'm complaining about the need to make multiples when they needn't do so.

Autobot032 wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

They cut Breakdown out (and don't listen to their excuses or "reasons" why, it's bull), they make TWO versions of all the major players (First Edition, then PRID), and now they're doing it again.

Optimus, I get. He's going to be redesigned in the show, he's THE major character, okay. A new Bulkhead and Starscream as well? That's the 3rd mold for those characters, so far. In the same toyline. (I don't care if it's considered a subline or has a tagline or whatever, it's all Prime.)

Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

With the excetion of RID, Animated, Energon and PRID, Ultra Magnus has ALWAYS been a repaint/retool of an existing Prime mold.

Why start complaining now?

I'm not complaining about Magnus, specifically. I'm complaining about the need to make multiples when they needn't do so.

Becuase there IS a need to do so.

PrymeStriker wrote:
If Ultra Magnus shows up in season 3, giving him his own CGI model would mean more money to spend when it could go to another new character. Recoloring and modifying the old Optimus model for Ultra Magnus doesn't stretch their budget to infinity and beyond, and they can give us another character.

magnus is an easy pass & shockwave will probably be too, robot mode is good but the alt mode & armor are horrible.

How two different Prime Ultra Magnus designs got approved within just a year of each other is beyond me, especially since he went from a totally unique design to being just a retool of Optimus. You'd think that since the toyline didn't start until long after the show got going there wouldn't be this repetition, that which ever design was approved first would've been the "canon" design, or at least it'd have been a simple retool first then the totally unique design. The only other bots in remotely similar situations that I can recall have been those with generic names (i.e. Dead End, Air Raid).

It'd be insane if we didn't get at least a Deluxe Breakdown in BH after that.

Its because Magnus is portrayed as the TF Prime repaint in the comics now.

I actually like this new Magnus over the old one.

Ultra Magnus has Arms Micron ports.

Sabrblade wrote:Ultra Magnus has Arms Micron ports.

Hmm. Yes he does. I wonder if more molds might get used...

RhA wrote:I actually like this new Magnus over the old one.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.

I do really like the look of the PRID version, and I do prefer owning unique molds where possible, but I never bought PRID Prime as I have the FE one, so despite being similar, this version of Magnus will still be a unique mold for my collection.

Add to that the fact that his hammer is much improved, he has TWO shoulder missiles instead of one wrist one, and his chest plate is very G1-esque, and I am sold on the BH version.

Also... with the sole exception of various Megatrons (DOTM, PRID) I have hated every single mechtech/powerizer weapon as I find them ugly and distracting... and PRID Magnus' Hammer/Gun is no exception.

Now, what will really make this BH Magnus figure for me is if the wing assembly is removable, so I can put that aside and do a mod to shorten the "PRID Prime Cape".

I was half hoping I'd get away with sneaking Shockwave into my Classics line-up, but I don't see that happening. I'm still really looking forward to getting hold of him.

No matter how hard I try I can't help but see Magnus as a step backwards given what we got in the RiD line. It just ain't right.

Sodan-1 wrote:No matter how hard I try I can't help but see Magnus as a step backwards given what we got in the RiD line. It just ain't right.

I still can't help but feel this is what they should have done to begin with. I still say PRiD Magnus is awkward at best. Those shoulder struts look awful! I even like the gunhammer, but his gigantic arms being attached to his body by TIIIINY little struts? Who thought that was a good idea!?

So I only just now took a good look at the in-box image of Magnus, and it sure looks like his "wing pack" is a separate piece. First off, it looks like it's tucked away in the lower right corner of the package, and you certainly don't see it on the in-box figure. Also, the box art of Magnus in truck mode depicts him without the wings hanging out the back of the truck...

Now I absolutely want this figure!