BBTS: Preorder for FWI-1 Alien Jet engine upgrade set for ROTF Leader Starcream

Can someone please comment in comparing Hasbro Leader class SS and MPM, they are identical as far as features go not including paint apps?? Thanks for the feedback.

i just posted this on the "ugly transformers" thread

god i want this and i just got a leader starscream.

Nemesis Destron wrote:Can someone please comment in comparing Hasbro Leader class SS and MPM, they are identical as far as features go not including paint apps?? Thanks for the feedback.

The only difference is that it's cast in different coloured plastics, and is painted to look like the Movie 01 design, it also has more and better paint detailings.
Pics do not do the Takara version justice.

donnie_707 wrote:i just posted this on the "ugly transformers" thread

HA! It is pretty ironic. I had a good chuckle when i saw this abomination on the front page.

monstergrotusque wrote:

donnie_707 wrote:i just posted this on the "ugly transformers" thread

HA! It is pretty ironic. I had a good chuckle when i saw this abomination on the front page.

It's a great figure though, right up there with leader Optimus.

thats really no loss to me,i havent even opened mine,and i never will.

Keeping him in the box might be a good idea. Seibertron posted on Facebook last night that he fears this thing is a candidate for GPS on the bronze plastic.

Really? I have beaten my cheap-o ROSS found US Leader Scream and he's got no signs of anything, except some loose hands. My Takara overpriced Leader TFTM 'Scream probably won't leave the box at this point but still...

I think that may a extremely overly cautious call on the GPS.

donnie_707 wrote:i just posted this on the "ugly transformers" thread

hey hes a decepticon its ok for him to be ugly

morphobots wrote:Keeping him in the box might be a good idea. Seibertron posted on Facebook last night that he fears this thing is a candidate for GPS on the bronze plastic.

and GPS isnt a issue i believe

i had mine for a year and took off his tattoos with alcohol(which makes GPS happen quicker)

so i dont think leader screamer should havve it

my protoform starscream for the first movie turned into powder in a month

Megatronsdemise666 wrote:

donnie_707 wrote:i just posted this on the "ugly transformers" thread

hey hes a decepticon its ok for him to be ugly

morphobots wrote:Keeping him in the box might be a good idea. Seibertron posted on Facebook last night that he fears this thing is a candidate for GPS on the bronze plastic.

and GPS isnt a issue i believe

i had mine for a year and took off his tattoos with alcohol(which makes GPS happen quicker)

so i dont think leader screamer should havve it

my protoform starscream for the first movie turned into powder in a month

Ryan's concern came from working on the Star Wars galleries. Apparently the knee on his Chewbacca shattered into a half dozen pieces during the shooting. He assumes it's only a matter of time for Starscream because it has similar colored plastic. Just passing on a heads-up here, is all.

morphobots wrote:

Megatronsdemise666 wrote:

donnie_707 wrote:i just posted this on the "ugly transformers" thread

hey hes a decepticon its ok for him to be ugly

morphobots wrote:Keeping him in the box might be a good idea. Seibertron posted on Facebook last night that he fears this thing is a candidate for GPS on the bronze plastic.

and GPS isnt a issue i believe

i had mine for a year and took off his tattoos with alcohol(which makes GPS happen quicker)

so i dont think leader screamer should havve it

my protoform starscream for the first movie turned into powder in a month

Ryan's concern came from working on the Star Wars galleries. Apparently the knee on his Chewbacca shattered into a half dozen pieces during the shooting. He assumes it's only a matter of time for Starscream because it has similar colored plastic. Just passing on a heads-up here, is all.

do you know how quickly that the chewbacca knee shattered? was it new or not. cause my screamer seems sturdy. like i just bought him honostly( keep in mind i always transform him and... yeah im a screamer nerd ^-^)

but i will be sad if he does end up breaking..............hes my favorite

When GPS is mentioned in regards to this figure is it in reference to the Grey Plastic Syndrome that plagues this figure? just asking.

monstergrotusque wrote:When GPS is mentioned in regards to this figure is it in reference to the Grey Plastic Syndrome that plagues this figure? just asking.

it means Gold Plastic Syndrome

anything like bronze or gold will crack easy.

im not sure how easy or how long it takes but i had it happen to my protoform starscream and it happened within a months time

morphobots wrote:

Megatronsdemise666 wrote:

donnie_707 wrote:i just posted this on the "ugly transformers" thread

hey hes a decepticon its ok for him to be ugly

morphobots wrote:Keeping him in the box might be a good idea. Seibertron posted on Facebook last night that he fears this thing is a candidate for GPS on the bronze plastic.

and GPS isnt a issue i believe

i had mine for a year and took off his tattoos with alcohol(which makes GPS happen quicker)

so i dont think leader screamer should havve it

my protoform starscream for the first movie turned into powder in a month

Ryan's concern came from working on the Star Wars galleries. Apparently the knee on his Chewbacca shattered into a half dozen pieces during the shooting. He assumes it's only a matter of time for Starscream because it has similar colored plastic. Just passing on a heads-up here, is all.

I saw that and checked my Chewbacca. Sure enough his bicep split in two when I moved his arm. I don't think we're free from GPS just yet.

Well that's disheartening to hear. Maybe Hasbro/Takara should just stop using gold and bronze plastic if they can't get this under control. If they simply must have these colors use paint. Just a thought.

Megatronsdemise666 wrote:

monstergrotusque wrote:When GPS is mentioned in regards to this figure is it in reference to the Grey Plastic Syndrome that plagues this figure? just asking.

it means Gold Plastic Syndrome

anything like bronze or gold will crack easy.

im not sure how easy or how long it takes but i had it happen to my protoform starscream and it happened within a months time

I know that!!

I was just takin the piss and making a crack about how much grey plastic is on the figure.

monstergrotusque wrote:When GPS is mentioned in regards to this figure is it in reference to the Grey Plastic Syndrome that plagues this figure? just asking.

See there ladies and gentlemen? That there is one of them jokes

El Duque wrote:Well that's disheartening to hear. Maybe Hasbro/Takara should just stop using gold and bronze plastic if they can't get this under control. If they simply must have these colors use paint. Just a thought.

As strange as this sounds, I've heard that collectors in the UK have less trouble with this. Some think it's due to climate. Maybe if you can duplicate those conditions in your display room you can delay the effects.

morphobots wrote:

El Duque wrote:Well that's disheartening to hear. Maybe Hasbro/Takara should just stop using gold and bronze plastic if they can't get this under control. If they simply must have these colors use paint. Just a thought.

As strange as this sounds, I've heard that collectors in the UK have less trouble with this. Some think it's due to climate. Maybe if you can duplicate those conditions in your display room you can delay the effects.

As if light control wasn't tough enough, now I have to replicate the atmospheric conditions of the UK in Oklahoma? "F" my life into pieces.

Meh. I guess this set is cool, but I don't really need it. That's a little expensive for what you get too.

I really hope Leader Starscream doesn't fall victim to GPS.

So can these attach in plane mode as well?

El Duque wrote:

morphobots wrote:

El Duque wrote:Well that's disheartening to hear. Maybe Hasbro/Takara should just stop using gold and bronze plastic if they can't get this under control. If they simply must have these colors use paint. Just a thought.

As strange as this sounds, I've heard that collectors in the UK have less trouble with this. Some think it's due to climate. Maybe if you can duplicate those conditions in your display room you can delay the effects.

As if light control wasn't tough enough, now I have to replicate the atmospheric conditions of the UK in Oklahoma? "F" my life into pieces.

Keep in mind I've gotten this from just a handful of people at conventions and I've never verified it myself. I just know I use a rudimentary climate control in my room to help preserve rubber parts, and, so far, I haven't had any GPS problems. I put a pan of water in the room for humidity and I try to regulate the temperature with a fan (summer) and a ceramic heater (winter) to prevent parts from expanding and contracting with temp change. Seeing my entire G1 collection with dry rotted tires once was enough for me.

been waiting to see this posted
looks pretty interesting even if i feel the price is a little too high

Got this from Ebay a month ago.Its very nice. It makes Starscream way more movie accurate. The boosters plug in the back were the missiles store and have a little groove to hook up firmly.After that they also have some articulation.They fold side to side, front to back , and anything in between. They include detachable blue jet flames for action poses.The boosters can also attach to the jet mode and maintain full mobility(must be rotated for jet mode). The buzz saw as seen in ROTF and DOTM,features matching paint/tatoo as Starscream.Plugs into missile launcher and can be fired (a nice little bonus)Rotates pretty nicely but depending on the launcher (some tend to pinch) friction will slow much faster. I highly recommend this for the already awesome Leader Starscream. I hope they make something like this for DOTM ultimate Optimus Prime. Making him more accurate/cooler looking with a better booster and two guns in robot mode and a bigger set of wheels and hitch for the tyrailer to hook up to ROTF Prime or Jetwing or that REALLY cool new Prime with the Stealth force.

RodimalToyota wrote:Already Pre-ordered, glad I did not spend the $50+ on the eBay listed set. Yay for $29.99!!!




http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=FWI10000&mode=retail

I kinda wish the guy who created this kit. would have also done & added into the kit a more G-1 Styled seeker head. that sort looked like the 2007 movie voyager seeker head that thundercracker had.

I honestly think the light blue missles on the back pack looks awful. I think a more blending in color should have been grey.

deathy wrote:

RodimalToyota wrote:Already Pre-ordered, glad I did not spend the $50+ on the eBay listed set. Yay for $29.99!!!




http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=FWI10000&mode=retail

I kinda wish the guy who created this kit. would have also done & added into the kit a more G-1 Styled seeker head. that sort looked like the 2007 movie voyager seeker head that thundercracker had.

I honestly think the light blue missles on the back pack looks awful. I think a more blending in color should have been grey.

The Blue things are not missiles,They are supposed to be blue jet exhaust flames.They are removable.