BBTS has Generations Deluxe Combiner Wars 2016 Wave 02 up for Preorder

Wheeljack looks so terribly unpainted

Hound is already sold out. But ordered Smokescreen and Wheeljack for myself. Needed a new Smokescreen anyway, and as for Wheeljack, just wanted him. Lol

What do they have against just molding that little elbow joint on the Dead End mold the same color as the rest of the figure and painting just a tiny piece of it to make it seamless with the rest of the figure?

I really thought I was ok with the Hound/Swindle sculpt, but now that just looks absurd.

TFSource has joined the preorder party with the new Autobot limbs up for preorder.

4 pack case

8 pack case

As far as repaints go, they look alright (except for Smokescreen who just looks too lazy), but the choice of characters going with Sky Lynx seems a little strange. The combiner is called Sky Reign and the four limbs are all cars.

Even if they didn't have some flying characters to go with, maybe some guys that actually were in the same wave as Sky Lynx might have seemed appropriate.

Kup - Offroad mold
Springer - Rook mold
Blurr - Dead End mold
Hot Rod - Breakdown mold

RiddlerJ wrote:As far as repaints go, they look alright (except for Smokescreen who just looks too lazy), but the choice of characters going with Sky Lynx seems a little strange. The combiner is called Sky Reign and the four limbs are all cars.

Even if they didn't have some flying characters to go with, maybe some guys that actually were in the same wave as Sky Lynx might have seemed appropriate.

Kup - Offroad mold
Springer - Rook mold
Blurr - Dead End mold
Hot Rod - Breakdown mold

Yeah, I also find that weird since Skylynx is the only bot in all these G1 characters being made as toys in the CW line to be from the post movie era while it seems the main idea Hasbro is going for (from what I can tell) is pre movie era.

EDIT: Yeah, there is rodimus, but I was looking more at limbs and torsos.

william-james88 wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:As far as repaints go, they look alright (except for Smokescreen who just looks too lazy), but the choice of characters going with Sky Lynx seems a little strange. The combiner is called Sky Reign and the four limbs are all cars.

Even if they didn't have some flying characters to go with, maybe some guys that actually were in the same wave as Sky Lynx might have seemed appropriate.

Kup - Offroad mold
Springer - Rook mold
Blurr - Dead End mold
Hot Rod - Breakdown mold

Yeah, I also find that weird since Skylynx is the only bot in all these G1 characters being made as toys in the CW line to be from the post movie era while it seems the main idea Hasbro is going for (from what I can tell) is pre movie era.

Well, in the Marvel Comics version, Sky Lynx existed in the present day (the 1980s) rather than the future (the 2000s), and was an old friend of Wheeljack's. So there is at least that connection between those two.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:As far as repaints go, they look alright (except for Smokescreen who just looks too lazy), but the choice of characters going with Sky Lynx seems a little strange. The combiner is called Sky Reign and the four limbs are all cars.

Even if they didn't have some flying characters to go with, maybe some guys that actually were in the same wave as Sky Lynx might have seemed appropriate.

Kup - Offroad mold
Springer - Rook mold
Blurr - Dead End mold
Hot Rod - Breakdown mold

Yeah, I also find that weird since Skylynx is the only bot in all these G1 characters being made as toys in the CW line to be from the post movie era while it seems the main idea Hasbro is going for (from what I can tell) is pre movie era.

Well, in the Marvel Comics version, Sky Lynx existed in the present day (the 1980s) rather than the future (the 2000s), and was an old friend of Wheeljack's. So there is at least that connection between those two.

The guys at botcon alluded to his being a favorite of the design team, as well as being popular with fans in general. I kinda agree that the team doesn't really fit with a flier, but what other fliers were there? alpha bravo as Springer... pass...

Hellscream9999 wrote:The guys at botcon alluded to his being a favorite of the design team, as well as being popular with fans in general.

We know that's why they made Sky Lynx, but it isn't fiction justification for why he's paired with four guys he's rarely ever been associated with. I was talking about this when I mentioned Wheeljack and Sky Lynx having been old friends in Marvel G1.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:The guys at botcon alluded to his being a favorite of the design team, as well as being popular with fans in general.

We know that's why they made Sky Lynx, but it isn't fiction justification for why he's paired with four guys he's rarely ever been associated with. I was talking about this when I mentioned Wheeljack and Sky Lynx having been old friends in Marvel G1.

Fiction justification, please, they just have to have it happen in the comics, and there. Honestly, the reasons for this mash-up are probably more worldy than fictitious - like trademark, or that kids like good guys, or something else. They could have given us jetfire out of airraid, they both have moving wings...

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:The guys at botcon alluded to his being a favorite of the design team, as well as being popular with fans in general.

We know that's why they made Sky Lynx, but it isn't fiction justification for why he's paired with four guys he's rarely ever been associated with. I was talking about this when I mentioned Wheeljack and Sky Lynx having been old friends in Marvel G1.

Fiction justification, please, they just have to have it happen in the comics, and there. Honestly, the reasons for this mash-up are probably more worldy than fictitious - like trademark, or that kids like good guys, or something else. They could have given us jetfire out of airraid, they both have moving wings...

Or that the choices for the four limb characters were simply that they're ones that could be easily made from the preexisting Prowl, Swindle, Offroad, and Breakdown molds.

The point is, though, that most people would expect a Sky Lynx combiner to have the guy teamed up with 1986/"Season 3" Autobots rather than 1984-1985/"Seasons 1-2" Autobots. My Wheeljack/Sky Lynx justification was in response to that.

And it was Rook, not AB, whom was suggested for Springer.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:The guys at botcon alluded to his being a favorite of the design team, as well as being popular with fans in general.

We know that's why they made Sky Lynx, but it isn't fiction justification for why he's paired with four guys he's rarely ever been associated with. I was talking about this when I mentioned Wheeljack and Sky Lynx having been old friends in Marvel G1.

Fiction justification, please, they just have to have it happen in the comics, and there. Honestly, the reasons for this mash-up are probably more worldy than fictitious - like trademark, or that kids like good guys, or something else. They could have given us jetfire out of airraid, they both have moving wings...

Or that the choices for the four limb characters were simply that they're ones that could be easily made from the preexisting Prowl, Swindle, Offroad, and Breakdown molds.

The point is, though, that most people would expect a Sky Lynx combiner to have the guy teamed up with 1986/"Season 3" Autobots rather than 1984-1985/"Seasons 1-2" Autobots. My Wheeljack/Sky Lynx justification was in response to that.

And it was Rook, not AB, whom was suggested for Springer.

I was going off of someone else's comment that he has all land based limbs when his name is Sky Reign; I was wondering what other fliers could've been added to sky reign.

Sabrblade wrote:The point is, though, that most people would expect a Sky Lynx combiner to have the guy teamed up with 1986/"Season 3" Autobots rather than 1984-1985/"Seasons 1-2" Autobots. My Wheeljack/Sky Lynx justification was in response to that.

And it was Rook, not AB, whom was suggested for Springer.

I think instead that most people would expect Skylynx to not be a combiner

The choices for limbs is strange, but I am ok with it since this combiner will be displayed separated. And if they had at least painted the faux windshield on Jackie he would look soooo much better

The choices don't bother me that much. I'm still getting them anyway. It just seems a little random.

The other concept they seem to be going for is getting the whole first line of cars out there as limbs. Again, there's probably a better choice than Smokescreen. Ratchet from First Aid may have seemed better since it would only be the second use of that mold (re-mold).

Seibertron wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:Since this thread is 4 years old, can't you retire it and start a new one? I clicked the link in the first post, looking for United Rumble and Frenzy, before realizing the post was from 2011.

Best way to handle this is for all of us to start posting in this topic. Not sure why it doesn't get used.

Because there's a more active thread in Toy Discussion: transformer-toys-available-for-pre-order-instock-online-thread-t104499.php

That's a more active section of the forums as well, which is probably why this thread concept has better adoption over there.

Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Downshift, we have our first North American listing for the Combienr Wars G2 sets with a listing of G2 Superion found on Walmart.ca. It has the same price previously found on the Toysrus computer database, 149.92$ Canadian. This listing tells us that the initial G2 box sets will not be retailer exclusive and that they are indeed meant to start selling this holiday season. This should be available in the states sometime soon, either a Walmart or Toysrus (or Target since I here they still exist over there).

The listing also offered new stock images which are less touched up than usual as well as Walmart's own brand of bio:

Superion is driven by one thing and one thing only: a desire to obliterate the enemy. He attacks Decepticons – on the ground or in the air – with all-out force.
Convert, attack and destroy with this incredible 7-in-1 Superion Collection Pack!

HA! Called it, holiday release, shame it probably won't show up in stores before christmas

Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Called it, holiday release, shame it probably won't show up in stores before christmas

For me, that's a good thing considering I won't get anymore money until after Christmas. Although, I'm not sure how I can get this, Sky Reign, Grand Galvatron, and PC-08-9 in one swing, so I might have to wait on G2 Superion and the upgrade kits.

Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Called it, holiday release, shame it probably won't show up in stores before christmas

Pretty sure these will never show in stores and only be available online like Brake Neck and Quickslinger.

I'm strongly tempted to get this for two reasons - 1. -The 6th Member, and 2. -because unlike Devastator (the only other CW to be offered in a Gift Set). I am unsure UW will offer G2 Superion. I really love the UW sets, I just wish all of them would have came with the 6th member legends class figure as a chest piece/weapon.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Called it, holiday release, shame it probably won't show up in stores before christmas

Pretty sure these will never show in stores and only be available online like Brake Neck and Quickslinger.

I think this is correct, but also a huge mistake*. Even a small brick and mortar run would probably clear out during the holidays. Cool gift for collectors, except no one buys these types of gifts for upcoming holidays like New Year's/MLK Day/President's Day.

Hell just the timing of these is clearly a supply chain screwup. When did we see the boxed Superion images, months ago? Where have they been sitting around? Somebody messed up somewhere, at least that's my theory.

All that aside I look forward to these sets immensely. Bring on G2 Defensor!

*Edit for clarity: mistake on the collective retailers' part for not ordering them into physical stores at all in time for the holidays, were it an option. Mistake on Hasbro's part if they didn't make that an option for even a small (<10,000 pieces) quantity.

Skydive, do you even lift, bro?

The Age of Extinction Dinobot sets and the Autobot Alliance set seemed like better value for money to me.

If you crunch the numbers they are pretty much $50.00 over priced - even if you are generous and class the Deluxe price point as $20.00 & Voyager as $35.00 & Legends/Basic as £15.00 they are still over priced.

$20.00+$20.00+$20.00+$20.00
+$35.00
+$15.00
= $140.00 ($10.00 overpriced)

So even inflating the prices to the most insane price a store could conceivable try to charge for the individual items they are still to much - if they try to further inflate the Price for Victorion - I will laugh in their face.

Why would I pay as much for a Hasbro toy that I could buy a Unite Warriors Gift set for - "with shipping" and then I'd have to pay international postage on the gift sets as well making them way more expensive than any AOE set except the SDCC one.

And if you class them by a more sensible price... They'd be more like $15.00X4
$25.00
& $10.00

Though some of my contacts tell me their local American retailers have taken to charging $15.00 for Legends class now.

But lets be honest paying a premium for Silverbolt in any colour would leave a bad taste in my mouth - especially as he has a tendency to break.

RAR wrote:The Age of Extinction Dinobot sets and the Autobot Alliance set seemed like better value for money to me.

If you crunch the numbers they are pretty much $50.00 over priced - even if you are generous and class the Deluxe price point as $20.00 & Voyager as $35.00 & Legends/Basic as £15.00 they are still over priced.

$20.00+$20.00+$20.00+$20.00
+$35.00
+$15.00
= $140.00 ($10.00 overpriced)

So even inflating the prices to the most insane price a store could conceivable try to charge for the individual items they are still to much - if they try to further inflate the Price for Victorion - I will laugh in their face.

Why would I pay as much for a Hasbro toy that I could buy a Unite Warriors Gift set for - "with shipping" and then I'd have to pay international postage on the gift sets as well making them way more expensive than any AOE set except the SDCC one.

And if you class them by a more sensible price... They'd be more like $15.00X4
$25.00
& $10.00

Though some of my contacts tell me their local American retailers have taken to charging $15.00 for Legends class now.

But lets be honest paying a premium for Silverbolt in any colour would leave a bad taste in my mouth - especially as he has a tendency to break.

You realise that these are the Canadian prices right? They're always higher than the American prices which have already been semi revealed to be around the $100 mark.
My bad I thought they were more expensive than they really are.

RAR wrote:The Age of Extinction Dinobot sets and the Autobot Alliance set seemed like better value for money to me.

If you crunch the numbers they are pretty much $50.00 over priced - even if you are generous and class the Deluxe price point as $20.00 & Voyager as $35.00 & Legends/Basic as £15.00 they are still over priced.

$20.00+$20.00+$20.00+$20.00
+$35.00
+$15.00
= $140.00 ($10.00 overpriced)

So even inflating the prices to the most insane price a store could conceivable try to charge for the individual items they are still to much - if they try to further inflate the Price for Victorion - I will laugh in their face.

Why would I pay as much for a Hasbro toy that I could buy a Unite Warriors Gift set for - "with shipping" and then I'd have to pay international postage on the gift sets as well making them way more expensive than any AOE set except the SDCC one.

And if you class them by a more sensible price... They'd be more like $15.00X4
$25.00
& $10.00

Though some of my contacts tell me their local American retailers have taken to charging $15.00 for Legends class now.

But lets be honest paying a premium for Silverbolt in any colour would leave a bad taste in my mouth - especially as he has a tendency to break.

$150 Canadian is about $108 USD, much more in line with their MSRP of $100USD.

Poor Skydive can't be transformed right for a picture. and Powerglide does look very cool in those colors! Won't get him, but still something cool for others to have

Shockwaves back in stock at hts, so, as the saying goes, get 'em while they're hot

Entertainment Earth has the Minicon Battle packs in stock, although the price is incredibly high.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... 5&page=top

Just sharing the love. Vehicon General of the TAV line is available again at amiami.

fenrir72 wrote:http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-011315&page=top

Just sharing the love. Vehicon General of the TAV line is available again at amiami.

not cheap though

$100.00 US is acceptable as that was around what a typical AOE Boxes set was going for I was only irked as I wanted to buy all the G2 Gift sets they make and pricing them to high means the Defensor one becomes a little further away then.

$100.00 each means the 4 we know about would cost $400.00 if they did come out at a higher price though they that makes your spend $600.00 for the 4 sets instead - a big jump in price.

I do wonder if G2 Defensor may show up as a comic convention toy exclusive though.

I'm still left hoping that there may be a G2 Rook, Off Road & Alpha Bravo though sometime - but also left wondering if they should be a unique coloring or the same as the character they used to stand it for.

As I have said before I do really like the idea of a spare team member.

I have also mentioned before that I suspect the Transformation that many of these Limb-bots have makes a potential Seacon Rifle mode possible too using the extra team member. Heck you can do that already with Rook.

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-011315&page=top

Just sharing the love. Vehicon General of the TAV line is available again at amiami.

not cheap though

Yeah. At full price this time. Though given how HTF they are (RK is still out of stock)

Fellow Seibertronians, the eagerly anticipated Combiner Wars Sky Lynx finally has a listing for his wave. Found on DorkSideToys, the listing includes the date that pre-orders begin, but it also includes his wave-mate, which is none other than what appears to be an unaltered Onslaught.

Sky Lynx is expected to be available in February, the listing may be viewed by clicking the picture:


Onslaught was reported to a 'running change' that included a more show accurate olive green chest plate for Bruticus - as seen in our galleries from Botcon '15 - instead of the wave 1 toy accurate grey colored chest plate. However, the images for the wave seem to contradict this;



While questions about how this running change will take place, one thing is for sure, Sky Lynx's release is quickly approaching. Are you excited for Sky Lynx? Let us know in the comments below.

show accurate olive green chest plate? what are they talking about/
his chest was all blue in the show

Ultra Markus wrote:show accurate olive green chest plate? what are they talking about/
his chest was all blue in the show

onslaughtg1.jpg

Bruticus' chest plate would be green as seen here:



Thought it was generally common knowledge by now, but I guess I'll just update the news post... Thanks for letting me know that this should have been clarified.

Maybe they just used their on-hand pics, since the color changes to Bruticus's armor aren't readily apparent on Onslaught in the package?

Premium Collectables have him up as well.
http://www.premiumcollectables.com.au/p ... s-sky-lynx

Can Bruticus be transformed without Onslaught's wheels sticking up over his shoulders just like the convention picture above?

I'm not feeling Bruticus with green chesticles. I'm team grey all the whey!

Damn I really want that green chest versiin. i got the one with the grey chest and it just doesnt cut it. Hopefully takara will bless us with a cartoon accurate deco.

carytheone wrote:I'm not feeling Bruticus with green chesticles. I'm team grey all the whey!

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I love the cartoon but I'd rather have a grey chest plate. I wouldn't even say his cartoon chest was green. I always saw it as blastoff's wings and was more brown. That always confused me as a kid. Why would part of blast off be the chest of bruticus? I'm curious to what Takara does since they lean toward cartoon color schemes.

Still getting hasbro but I'm also gonna get takaras. Not because I think they'll do a new blastoff but because bruticus is my boy.

Randomhero wrote:

carytheone wrote:I'm not feeling Bruticus with green chesticles. I'm team grey all the whey!

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I love the cartoon but I'd rather have a grey chest plate. I wouldn't even say his cartoon chest was green. I always saw it as blastoff's wings and was more brown. That always confused me as a kid. Why would part of blast off be the chest of bruticus? I'm curious to what Takara does since they lean toward cartoon color schemes.

Still getting hasbro but I'm also gonna get takaras. Not because I think they'll do a new blastoff but because bruticus is my boy.

Even if they make it an exclusive and force us to get the more expensive asian release, like Defensor?

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

carytheone wrote:I'm not feeling Bruticus with green chesticles. I'm team grey all the whey!

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I love the cartoon but I'd rather have a grey chest plate. I wouldn't even say his cartoon chest was green. I always saw it as blastoff's wings and was more brown. That always confused me as a kid. Why would part of blast off be the chest of bruticus? I'm curious to what Takara does since they lean toward cartoon color schemes.

Still getting hasbro but I'm also gonna get takaras. Not because I think they'll do a new blastoff but because bruticus is my boy.

Even if they make it an exclusive and force us to get the more expensive asian release, like Defensor?

I did it for the Fall of Cybertron one I'm more than happy to do it with this.

I'm not someone who buys Takara or 3rd party stuff so I don't spend a heck of a lot on toys. I'm totally fine with what hasbro makes. I dont need a groove that's a foot or a scrapper or long haul with elbows or even a more accurate color scheme for the most part. They're toys. Chunks of plastic. Once in a while I'll splurge and get a Takara exclusive like the legends nightbird slipstream and blackarachnia but it's in a while when I feel like treating myself.

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:Can Bruticus be transformed without Onslaught's wheels sticking up over his shoulders just like the convention picture above?

Yes, but it's not as stable. The wings of the chest piece pegs into the arms when they are up like that. This makes his shoulders super stable.

Plenty of options though. You could leave them pegged in and just fold the forearms back and down a bit. They will stick out just a little. Or you could just mistransform him and have them rotated like Defensor. You get a little more shoulder movement action this way.

Check how the Perfect Effect team has him posed.

Good to know. I'll probably transform him like Hotspot/Defensor then. Thanks!

I am totally looking forward to getting Skylynx. Scattershot is a pass for me. If only more work went into that figure to differentiate it from Superion!

YEAH! Sky Lynx for the win

Can't wait to see some reviews of him; and then to get him, he looks so cool

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:show accurate olive green chest plate? what are they talking about/
his chest was all blue in the show

onslaughtg1.jpg

Bruticus' chest plate would be green as seen here:



Thought it was generally common knowledge by now, but I guess I'll just update the news post... Thanks for letting me know that this should have been clarified.

for it to be bruticus chest it would be dark grey with brown and purple in the center to be show accurate not olive green