Baldigus Confirmed as Next Takara Unite Warriors Release

Well, there is my first Unite Warriors purchase. Thank you

Well this'll certainly be interesting. Let's hope it looks good...but, considering it's Takara, I'm sure it'll be awesome.

I'm bummed since I'm one of those waiting for Takara's take on Liokaiser.

Probably my last chance to get a four bladed Vortex.....

PeterPrime wrote:Well, there is my first Unite Warriors purchase. Thank you

This might...actually be my first pass. I've purchased/plan on purchasing all the UW sets up until now because IMO they are either superior to CW, or offer something unique (well one could argue that Superion & Menasor are pretty much the same aside from the paint apps). But all the others have been different in some way. I have/enjoy UW Bruticus. If this is a straight up repaint I'll be a bit disappointed. They have to offer something different I would think/hope. Also, Baldigus had nothing to do with Unicron previously..., not sure how this all makes sense.

So we get the full reveal on the 25th...Lynx Master is supposed to come out on the 29th...Hopefully soon we'll be getting a close up of the packaging.

No love for the Battle Gear colors

What's odd to me is that they have Movor on the arm even though in the cartoon he was also commonly shown as a leg - which is also a good way to differentiate him from Bruticus.

If they're doing Baldigus/Ruination, they should really do an Autobot RID combiner too.

Optimus Prime - Hot Spot mold
Side Burn - Dead End mold
Prowl - Breakdown mold
Skid-Z - Dragstrip mold
X-Brawn - First Aid Mold

Terrsolpix wrote:Probably my last chance to get a four bladed Vortex.....

I don't know if it's worth it. It only looks good in alt mode (where it is awesome ). In every other mode, it just makes everything a mess. The helicopter blades are my least favorite thing about the AB mold and four blades makes it worse.

Kurona wrote:What's odd to me is that they have Movor on the arm even though in the cartoon he was also commonly shown as a leg

That's not entirely true.

Back when I was putting this together, I determined that Ruination/Baldigus formed his Flight Mission formation exactly nine times in RiD 2001 (eight times in Car Robots since one of the times in the dub was added to the dub). Meanwhile, his Land Mission formation was formed a mere seven times in RiD 2001 (six times in Car Robots since one of the times in the dub was in one of the dub's clip shows). So he was seen in his Flight Mission a little more often than his Land Mission.

kurthy wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:Probably my last chance to get a four bladed Vortex.....

I don't know if it's worth it. It only looks good in alt mode (where it is awesome ). In every other mode, it just makes everything a mess. The helicopter blades are my least favorite thing about the AB mold and four blades makes it worse.

I agree, they are the worst part of that mold and having four doesn't make things any better. They get in the way and really don't position well at all. They really should've redesigned the rotor completely instead of just adding two more blades using the exact same design.

RiddlerJ wrote:If they're doing Baldigus/Ruination, they should really do an Autobot RID combiner too.

Optimus Prime - Hot Spot mold
Side Burn - Dead End mold
Prowl - Breakdown mold
Skid-Z - Dragstrip mold
X-Brawn - First Aid Mold

Any combiner using the Autobot Brothers as limbs ought to, IMHO, have Tow-Line as the fourth limb since, in Car Robots, he is their cousin, part of their family.

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My Digibashes I did of Ruination and RID Autobot Combiners

RiddlerJ wrote:If they're doing Baldigus/Ruination, they should really do an Autobot RID combiner too.

Optimus Prime - Hot Spot mold
Side Burn - Dead End mold
Prowl - Breakdown mold
Skid-Z - Dragstrip mold
X-Brawn - First Aid Mold

First, I wanna see Devastator repainted as Landfill.

Yeah, I know it's a poor match in combined mode -- but in addition to the CR Build Team, we've got G1 Targetmasters Quickmix and Scoop we could throw in to the set, giving each Constructicon an Autobot repaint:

Hook -> Hightower
Scavenger -> Grimlock (needs a new name)
Long Haul -> Heavyload
Bonecrusher -> Wedge
Mixmaster -> Quickmix
Scrapper -> Scoop

That last one alone would make it a big seller among IDW fans.

mblase75 wrote:Scavenger -> Grimlock (needs a new name)

New name could be Buckethead.

couple of things..first off. If TT did any other Combiners, they would be based off of Japanese characters, so even if say...they did a CR team, or Buildmaster, they would have all the Japanese names. I seriously doubt they would remold Devastator into Buildmaster as it would not be accurate to the animated series. The same reason why I seriously doubt they will be doing LioKaiser (at least not Hasbro's version). They may totally shock and surprise us with some new molds, but considering all the effort TT took to design just two unique molds of their own...I don't know how they would do a whole new combiner. Still...it would be awesome.

If they were to make a new Liokaiser torso with Jallguar and Leozack - which, to me, seems unlikely - I can still see them using the limbs from Hasbro Liokaiser. They were done fine.

In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

Sabrblade wrote:In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

I'm more of a fan of the original Car Robots. After the HUGE disappointment that was Beast Machines, when I saw the design of the new toys in Japan, going back to vehicles,(at least for the Cybertrons) I was excited for Transformers again. Of course I had no idea that the anime would actually get dubbed in the U.S. (since the other series had never received an official release), so I was all in for Car Robots. I remember at BC 2000 in Ft Wayne trading my exclusive Apelinq & Shockaract for JRX & Baldigus sets (to me it was totaly worth it). I even got a VHS bootleg of the first 4 episodes, and was able to find (though primitive at the time), a streaming service where I could watch Car Robots episodes shortly after they aired in Japan. Of course when it was announced that CR would be dubbed in the U.S. as "Robots in Disguise" I was a bit skeptical. Of course it had its issues...but it was serviceable. To this day however I really enjoy watching Car Robots, and the toy line was excellent. unfortunately the next year when Armada came out, though the toy line had some memorable entries, the series was crap, and it would be another eight years before I could be excited about transformers on TV again.

I tried to watch it and it bored me to death.
Twice.

Sabrblade wrote:In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

I definitely am.

Sabrblade wrote:In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

I enjoyed it at the time, but when my local station stopped carrying Fox Kids I never finished it. Last episode I saw was the cliffhanger where Megatron becomes Galvatron. I have since "acquired" all of Car Robots AND RID but never gotten around to actually watching them. I did meet Neil Kaplan at the one and only Savcon a few years back, though.

Sabrblade wrote:

mblase75 wrote:Scavenger -> Grimlock (needs a new name)

New name could be Buckethead.

Works for me.

There's also "Demolishor", but he's always been a Decepticon.

Come to think of it, there used to be a Micromaster simply named "Excavator." But again, Decepticon.

I guess they could recycle "Longarm", too.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

I'm more of a fan of the original Car Robots.

That's cool. I like both versions about equally. The way I see it, Car Robots is the slightly superior version in which more things make more sense and which has the catchier music overall, while RiD has enough things in its version that I felt were either cool or funny enough to even things out with the original, and which did have a small amount things I did like better than in Car Robots (Dr. Onishi being more fatherly to his son in the dub than in the original, for one, or Cerebros's secret being technologically-based rather than Plasma's secret being more fantasy-based).

What I'm about the share also applies to fans of Car Robots as well.

Counterpunch wrote:I definitely am.

King Kuuga wrote:I enjoyed it at the time, but when my local station stopped carrying Fox Kids I never finished it. Last episode I saw was the cliffhanger where Megatron becomes Galvatron. I have since "acquired" all of Car Robots AND RID but never gotten around to actually watching them. I did meet Neil Kaplan at the one and only Savcon a few years back, though.

The reason I ask is because, back in November 2015, I wrote up a big RiD/CR reference guide in the TF cartoon/comics forum section, but it kinda got lost in all the IDW comics talk of the time. With this new CR-related news, I figure now might be a good time to bring back some attention to it.

Wonder if this one will include an onslaught with broken legs too

Hellscream9999 wrote:Wonder if this one will include an onslaught with broken legs too

Off topic, but what's the likelihood we'd get KO's based on the Unite Warriors line made similarly to how some KO companies do the ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime reproductions?

Quantum Surge wrote:Off topic, but what's the likelihood we'd get KO's based on the Unite Warriors line made similarly to how some KO companies do the ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime reproductions?

Reaaaaaally off topic.

SWEET!

*Goes and digs out Subscription Service Scourge*

fenrir72 wrote:

Quantum Surge wrote:Off topic, but what's the likelihood we'd get KO's based on the Unite Warriors line made similarly to how some KO companies do the ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime reproductions?

Reaaaaaally off topic.

How off topic is it when I mentioned UNITE WARRIORS?

Quantum Surge wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Quantum Surge wrote:Off topic, but what's the likelihood we'd get KO's based on the Unite Warriors line made similarly to how some KO companies do the ROTF Leader Class Optimus Prime reproductions?

Reaaaaaally off topic.

How off topic is it when I mentioned UNITE WARRIORS?

Because the thread is about official Unite Warriors products, not KOs.

Yeah, it... relates directly to UW. It's a discussion much better served in the unlicensed toys part of the forum of course, but this thread would easily be the best place to ask first. It's a fine question to put here. I see questions and posts about add-ons and knockoffs in other official product threads because it directly relates to the official product in question so I don't see why it's off-topic here.

All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

Quantum Surge wrote:All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

funpub is dead.

at least to

I assumed it'd be Baldigus as much as the next fan, but did anyone consider that if this wasn't the case, the next most logical use of Combaticon molds might be for UW Nexus Maximus?

I'm starting to think no choice of redeco is too out-there for the Unite Warriors line. Heck, they might end up giving us the G2 Protectobots if Hasbro decides that potential set's not profitable.

This UW Baldigus might be the Combiner I'm most excited about yet.

I would love for there to be a new Nexus Prime or a G2 Defensor from UW.

The only thing is that both of those are American-only concepts that have - as far as I know, at least - never existed in Japanese media. You have some examples of american-only fiction leaking into Japanese toylines recently in Straxus being not only released, but in a much more marvel-accurate colour scheme; and the Legends releases of Ultra Magnus, Brainstorm (UW-09, the voyager) and Skids being even more accurate to IDW than their Thrilling 30 counterparts. But full combiners? That's a difficult one. Maybe they can justify it with him being one of the Primes and G2 Defensor still, of course, being Defensor... but still.

Quantum Surge wrote:All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

How is Hasbro's Ruination different to Takara's Baldigus?

And just to let you know, Fun Pub no longer has the license, so only Hasbro would release Ruination in the west.

william-james88 wrote:

Quantum Surge wrote:All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

How is Hasbro's Ruination different to Takara's Baldigus?

Left: Baldigus, right: Ruination



For some reason, Hasbro gave their figure a deco that looks nothing like the guy's cartoon colors.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Quantum Surge wrote:All that aside, what's the likelihood that there will be an variant that is based on Hasbro's version of Ruination? I know Combiner Wars won't be the place for it, but what about FunPub?

How is Hasbro's Ruination different to Takara's Baldigus?

Left: Baldigus, right: Ruination



For some reason, Hasbro gave their figure a deco that looks nothing like the guy's cartoon colors.

Ah, coffee-milk tan.

I think Hasbro was making a misguided attempt at ramping up G1 nostalgia by giving Ruin a deco that was a compromise between Baldy and Bruty. While this unfortunately made the toy accurate to nothing, anyone who really wants a CWUTRID2001 Ruination could just Frankenstein it together from a spare Baldigus and G1 and G2 Brutici (plural?). Say, for that matter, UW Shuttler could be repurposed as the proper G2 Blastoff we didn't get...which could make the Slingshot repaint in the set repurposeable as Botcon Machine Wars CW Skywarp! Alllllllrighty then, I'm suddenly enthused about a set I could've cared less about when it was first teased in the Megatronia comic!

And in defense of Quantum Surge's KO question, because of Hasbro's Ruinationous deco decision, the only toys we've ever see the proper Baldigus deco on in the States are those knock-off giftsets that used to be all over Big Lots and other lower-rent retailers (I think I even saw a downsized one at Tuesday Morning last week), so he does make KOs spring to mind more than your average TF. But speculation is indeed best for a different thread.

Kurona wrote:If they were to make a new Liokaiser torso with Jallguar and Leozack - which, to me, seems unlikely - I can still see them using the limbs from Hasbro Liokaiser. They were done fine.

You think Takara Liokaiser is still a matter of when and not if? I certainly hope so. He was so kick ass in Victory, but not really feeling the Hasbro offering.

nycPrime wrote:

Kurona wrote:If they were to make a new Liokaiser torso with Jallguar and Leozack - which, to me, seems unlikely - I can still see them using the limbs from Hasbro Liokaiser. They were done fine.

You think Takara Liokaiser is still a matter of when and not if? I certainly hope so. He was so kick ass in Victory, but not really feeling the Hasbro offering.

Nah I totally feel it's a matter of if. Still, considering how enthusiastic they seem to be to use whatever new tooling the CW molds have - which for Takara, especially these days is extremely weird - I'd say that's a point in favour of them doing Liokaiser as likely.

nycPrime wrote:

Kurona wrote:If they were to make a new Liokaiser torso with Jallguar and Leozack - which, to me, seems unlikely - I can still see them using the limbs from Hasbro Liokaiser. They were done fine.

You think Takara Liokaiser is still a matter of when and not if? I certainly hope so. He was so kick ass in Victory, but not really feeling the Hasbro offering.

My Chucky sense says yes, especially with a Star Saber out in the wild.

Sabrblade wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:I definitely am.

King Kuuga wrote:I enjoyed it at the time, but when my local station stopped carrying Fox Kids I never finished it. Last episode I saw was the cliffhanger where Megatron becomes Galvatron. I have since "acquired" all of Car Robots AND RID but never gotten around to actually watching them. I did meet Neil Kaplan at the one and only Savcon a few years back, though.

The reason I ask is because, back in November 2015, I wrote up a big RiD/CR reference guide in the TF cartoon/comics forum section, but it kinda got lost in all the IDW comics talk of the time. With this new CR-related news, I figure now might be a good time to bring back some attention to it.

I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you, but there's a big leap between "I liked watching this show" and "I am interested in knowing every single variation of a battle cry or transformation phrase from every single character and how often they were said." While I'm sure there are other people out there who can utilize your research or are otherwise interested in this guide, they are few and far between. That's why your thread got buried.

Could it be? The greatest Transformer name of all time finally gets a modern toy?

PRAISE BE TO TAKARA. ALL HAIL RUINATION.

Seriously though. I've never watched RID/CR but I might have to buy this. IIRC UW Bruticus suffered from QC issues so this would be the ideal substitute. Though I will say, I kinda wish he was available in US toy colours as well- sand blue Armourhide is something I really like for some reason.

I never watched RID but its easily one of my favourite toylines of all time. So many original designs, and amazing quality.

RiD Prime and Magnus are amazing. RiD Prime was the first new Prime I picked up when I first returned to Transformers. This was during the beginning of Armada. That Prime was aces.

Black Hat wrote:Could it be? The greatest Transformer name of all time finally gets a modern toy?

"Finally"? Is this not a modern toy?



Also, this new toy's name is more than likely to be "Baldigus", if LG-EX Black Convoy not bearing the "Scourge" name on his box is anything to go by.

King Kuuga wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:I definitely am.

King Kuuga wrote:I enjoyed it at the time, but when my local station stopped carrying Fox Kids I never finished it. Last episode I saw was the cliffhanger where Megatron becomes Galvatron. I have since "acquired" all of Car Robots AND RID but never gotten around to actually watching them. I did meet Neil Kaplan at the one and only Savcon a few years back, though.

The reason I ask is because, back in November 2015, I wrote up a big RiD/CR reference guide in the TF cartoon/comics forum section, but it kinda got lost in all the IDW comics talk of the time. With this new CR-related news, I figure now might be a good time to bring back some attention to it.

I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you, but there's a big leap between "I liked watching this show" and "I am interested in knowing every single variation of a battle cry or transformation phrase from every single character and how often they were said." While I'm sure there are other people out there who can utilize your research or are otherwise interested in this guide, they are few and far between. That's why your thread got buried.

Ouch!

Sabrblade wrote:In light of this supposed UW Baldigus news, may I ask how many of ya'll here are fans of the RiD 2001 cartoon?

Supposed? The Takara Tomy mall not credible enough?