Another Chance to Own the Highly Coveted Netflix Bumblebee Toy

And, sold out.

As expected.

-Kanrabat- wrote:And, sold out.

As expected.

Once the news breaks...

Still regretting on skipping the 'Bee I saw at Walmart, all because of a stupid blemish.

Made sure he stood next to Optimus. Got him for $40 in box. Could not find any price better and goven the scarcity of the figure likely caused by that container accident in the Pacific.

There is always a chance they could reissue him in Studio series 86 with Spike.

I saw Netflix BB multiple times, so I had my chance. It's not in my wheelhouse of collecting, so I have no regrets. The only Netflix item I never saw at retail was Soundwave. But again it wasn't on my want list, so no loss.

Oh well...I saw him once in the wild...didn't feel right paying that much for such a tiny figure.

And then Ingo around and pay MORE for an Origins 'Bee at TRU...

Roadbuster wrote:Made sure he stood next to Optimus. Got him for $40 in box. Could not find any price better and goven the scarcity of the figure likely caused by that container accident in the Pacific.

There is always a chance they could reissue him in Studio series 86 with Spike.

All depends on if the agreement with VW allows that,after all, he used the cliffjumper body in the World's Collide set

ZeroWolf wrote:

Roadbuster wrote:Made sure he stood next to Optimus. Got him for $40 in box. Could not find any price better and goven the scarcity of the figure likely caused by that container accident in the Pacific.

There is always a chance they could reissue him in Studio series 86 with Spike.

All depends on if the agreement with VW allows that,after all, he used the cliffjumper body in the World's Collide set

Which makes me wonder: we know Movie Bumblebee is the main focus of that agreement, with G1 Bumblebee tagging along. VW is no longer in play for future toys since Bumblebee traded in at the end of the Bumblebee movie, but what about reissues? Also, are the licenses company-specific? TakaraTomy has that Perfect Finish Beetle Bumblebee coming out.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Roadbuster wrote:Made sure he stood next to Optimus. Got him for $40 in box. Could not find any price better and goven the scarcity of the figure likely caused by that container accident in the Pacific.

There is always a chance they could reissue him in Studio series 86 with Spike.

All depends on if the agreement with VW allows that,after all, he used the cliffjumper body in the World's Collide set

Which makes me wonder: we know Movie Bumblebee is the main focus of that agreement, with G1 Bumblebee tagging along. VW is no longer in play for future toys since Bumblebee traded in at the end of the Bumblebee movie, but what about reissues? Also, are the licenses company-specific? TakaraTomy has that Perfect Finish Beetle Bumblebee coming out.

Here's a thought twist. What if they can re-use the netflix mold/license but chose not to for the World Collide set just to avoid giving what is so far a Walmart exclusive to their main competitor in the US. It would sort of like giving Walmart a go at Redwing. Redwing was available again online about a year or so after Target's exclusive go at him and I think we are nearing that point with Netflix Bee.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Roadbuster wrote:Made sure he stood next to Optimus. Got him for $40 in box. Could not find any price better and goven the scarcity of the figure likely caused by that container accident in the Pacific.

There is always a chance they could reissue him in Studio series 86 with Spike.

All depends on if the agreement with VW allows that,after all, he used the cliffjumper body in the World's Collide set

Which makes me wonder: we know Movie Bumblebee is the main focus of that agreement, with G1 Bumblebee tagging along. VW is no longer in play for future toys since Bumblebee traded in at the end of the Bumblebee movie, but what about reissues? Also, are the licenses company-specific? TakaraTomy has that Perfect Finish Beetle Bumblebee coming out.

Licencing agreements are done at the national level. What may be ok in Japan may not be ok in the US. Hence why Hasbro is importing that toy rather than manufacturing and distributing it themselves.

william-james88 wrote:Here is the link https://toysnowman.com/collections/tran ... per-person

Toy Snowman

-OR-

Toys now, man!

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Roadbuster wrote:Made sure he stood next to Optimus. Got him for $40 in box. Could not find any price better and goven the scarcity of the figure likely caused by that container accident in the Pacific.

There is always a chance they could reissue him in Studio series 86 with Spike.

All depends on if the agreement with VW allows that,after all, he used the cliffjumper body in the World's Collide set

Which makes me wonder: we know Movie Bumblebee is the main focus of that agreement, with G1 Bumblebee tagging along. VW is no longer in play for future toys since Bumblebee traded in at the end of the Bumblebee movie, but what about reissues? Also, are the licenses company-specific? TakaraTomy has that Perfect Finish Beetle Bumblebee coming out.

The G1 reissue probably was just tagging along since Hasbro specifically reissued him to go with the movie release. But we know it isn't as simple as "Hasbro has the Beetle license" otherwise they wouldn't have had to renegotiate for the Earthrise Bumblebee which took so long to approve it ended up in the Netflix line instead.

Emerje

My holy grail. A Bumblebee I have never seen in the wild and never had the chance to order.

Sorry it sold out so quickly. My minions were lucky to find one on the shelf a while back, and I posted a review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvbl2SE_SHE

As Bumblebee figures go, this one was pretty good. Yes it was a retool of ER Cliffjumper, but an extensive retool. And since the G1 figures were also very similar, it seemed appropriate. The Netflix figure did a much better job with the paint and the detailing. Not perfect mind you, but still pretty good. It was $19.97 at the time, so we at least escaped the Ebay markups. If you were lucky enough to snag one of the ones mentioned here, kudos. As long as you're not scalpers!

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Here is the link https://toysnowman.com/collections/tran ... per-person

Toy Snowman

-OR-

Toys now, man!

Haha, if you click the link, it's pretty clear which one it is. Also, it's a Canadian retailer so....

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Here is the link https://toysnowman.com/collections/tran ... per-person

Toy Snowman

-OR-

Toys now, man!

Haha, if you click the link, it's pretty clear which one it is. Also, it's a Canadian retailer so....

But that takes all the fun out of it!

"...deluxe toy from the second wave of the Netflix line, available only at Walmart IN THE USA..."

Fixed it for you. In Japan, for example, it was available from Amazon Japan and TT Mall, I believe? How about all the other countries, outside the USA?

And this kind of stupid BS takes all the fun out of collecting.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:And this kind of stupid BS takes all the fun out of collecting.

Only if you let it bother you.

But I guess most of us including myself can take that advice about 1 facet or another when it comes to collecting.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:And this kind of stupid BS takes all the fun out of collecting.

Nah. It's pretty much standard fare since ever.
I could even say that it ironically ADD to the fun. Especially when you happen upon the hard to find thing by chance and finally get it.

Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

I last handled mine back in November, didn't notice anything at the time. He did come out around the same time as Cyberverse Hammerbyte whose light blue plastic is known to yellow very quickly after opening, mine yellowed after a month sitting on my desk out of direct sunlight. Maybe they were having an issue with some light colored plastic?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

I last handled mine back in November, didn't notice anything at the time. He did come out around the same time as Cyberverse Hammerbyte whose light blue plastic is known to yellow very quickly after opening, mine yellowed after a month sitting on my desk out of direct sunlight. Maybe they were having an issue with some light colored plastic?

Emerje

It may not be classic photodegradation, as there are other causes for plastic discoloration. Not talking dirt here, but it may be something in the mix that's acting the way it shouldn't.

It actually reminds me of how SNES consoles quickly discolor because of faulty mixing; it's speculated that it's the bromine, that acts as a flame retardant, rising to the surface.

This may be already a DUH to you guys, but make sure your lighting isn't emitting any UV; in particular fluorescent tubes because of the mercury inside.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

Been hearing a lot about yellowing lately. SS Bee movie Ratchet, SG Starscream, I'm hearing a lot about yellowing

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

Been hearing a lot about yellowing lately. SS Bee movie Ratchet, SG Starscream, I'm hearing a lot about yellowing

No yellowing on my Screamer.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

Been hearing a lot about yellowing lately. SS Bee movie Ratchet, SG Starscream, I'm hearing a lot about yellowing

I got Ratchet from Amazon on Thursday, right out of the box part of the hip/thigh is discolored. Not sure if it's my eyes or it's supposed to be like that, barely noticeable but it's there if you look.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

Been hearing a lot about yellowing lately. SS Bee movie Ratchet, SG Starscream, I'm hearing a lot about yellowing

I got Ratchet from Amazon on Thursday, right out of the box part of the hip/thigh is discolored. Not sure if it's my eyes or it's supposed to be like that, barely noticeable but it's there if you look.

That's one of the spots I was seeing people on Twitter talk about, as well as the head and shoulders

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

Been hearing a lot about yellowing lately. SS Bee movie Ratchet, SG Starscream, I'm hearing a lot about yellowing

I got Ratchet from Amazon on Thursday, right out of the box part of the hip/thigh is discolored. Not sure if it's my eyes or it's supposed to be like that, barely noticeable but it's there if you look.

That's one of the spots I was seeing people on Twitter talk about, as well as the head and shoulders

Well, it's back in the box, out of sight out of mind.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

Been hearing a lot about yellowing lately. SS Bee movie Ratchet, SG Starscream, I'm hearing a lot about yellowing

I got Ratchet from Amazon on Thursday, right out of the box part of the hip/thigh is discolored. Not sure if it's my eyes or it's supposed to be like that, barely noticeable but it's there if you look.

That's one of the spots I was seeing people on Twitter talk about, as well as the head and shoulders

Well, it's back in the box, out of sight out of mind.

OK, something I've read about SS Ratchet on TFWiki has me thinking a bit, and asking this question: are any of the parts affected made of a plastic other than ABS? Ratchet's affected parts are made of PA, Polyamide aka Nylon, and rubbery PVC parts are *very* prone to discoloration under the right circumstances.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does anybody have issues with their Soundwave yellowing? I'm starting to hear some rumblings that the gray plastic is becoming discolored. Figures are kept out of sunlight etc.

Been hearing a lot about yellowing lately. SS Bee movie Ratchet, SG Starscream, I'm hearing a lot about yellowing

I got Ratchet from Amazon on Thursday, right out of the box part of the hip/thigh is discolored. Not sure if it's my eyes or it's supposed to be like that, barely noticeable but it's there if you look.

That's one of the spots I was seeing people on Twitter talk about, as well as the head and shoulders

Well, it's back in the box, out of sight out of mind.

OK, something I've read about SS Ratchet on TFWiki has me thinking a bit, and asking this question: are any of the parts affected made of a plastic other than ABS? Ratchet's affected parts are made of PA, Polyamide aka Nylon, and rubbery PVC parts are *very* prone to discoloration under the right circumstances.

Possibly, some of the plastic reminded me of the Top Gun Maverick bot.

Not seeing any yellowing on my Ratchet yet. Somebody had a picture of their Coronation Starscream with a discolored hinge, I wonder if that's related. My local Target still has an original Hammerbyte that has all of the light blue yellowed right in the package so it seems air exposure isn't a must here.

Just checked my Netflix Soundwave under a bright white LED panel photo lamp and he does indeed have a yellow right hip, everything else is gray. I was planning on passing on the Legacy version, but between the yellowing plastic and mine having a bum foot I might give it a shot.

Looks like we might have to scrutinize over or figures a little more which will mean another strike for windowless packaging. Going to keep an eye on SS Perceptor given all his light blue plastic.


Emerje

Emerje wrote:Not seeing any yellowing on my Ratchet yet. Somebody had a picture of their Coronation Starscream with a discolored hinge, I wonder if that's related. My local Target still has an original Hammerbyte that has all of the light blue yellowed right in the package so it seems air exposure isn't a must here.


Emerje

The tiys are not vacuum sealed, the tiy is still exposed to air in the packaging.

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Not seeing any yellowing on my Ratchet yet. Somebody had a picture of their Coronation Starscream with a discolored hinge, I wonder if that's related. My local Target still has an original Hammerbyte that has all of the light blue yellowed right in the package so it seems air exposure isn't a must here.


Emerje

The tiys are not vacuum sealed, the tiy is still exposed to air in the packaging.

Right, what I mean is circulating air. The package is still sealed enough to trap in all the gasses and plasticizers released by the plastic which usually is enough to keep plastic from showing signs of degradation for several years, let alone one year.

Emerje

Well, I finally got Netflix Magnus. This is my first WFC Magnus, and will probably be the only one I get. I really like the paint work they did with this guy, it's a unique look, and he feels really good in hand. He will eventually end up with my Wreckers.

He looks pretty good in many respects, but I'm a bit "eh" on him if only because based on pics some of the black paint apps - and the distribution of them - feel a bit too close to this for me:


They're not quite that bad, but for my tastes they aren't better enough. *shrug*

Magnus continues to be really nice. The paint detailing to him continues to be great, I love this guy

I like the robot mode on that figure, but I think the truck mode could have been a bit tighter. Personally, it would have been great to see this in commander class, so he can both fit the deluxe cars and be in scale in robot mode, but otherwise it was done well. And yeah, the inner bot is pretty sharp for both Siege versions and the Kingdom version.

My one wish for the Netflix figure is that the scorch marks weren't on the parts covered by the armor. I think it would be neat if only the exposed parts had scorch marks and they matched up with the scorched marks on the armor. Then when the armor is off you can see a bit of the armor's outline against the white parts. It would have looked really cool I think.

Emerje

I like how Magnus fairs with Galvatron II. Makes for a more convincing battle pair

Those shots make me glad I got the leg extensions for Magnus. He needs to be and should be taller than Galvatron.

Duly appointed

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Duly appointed

[img]https://i.imgur.com/a36I5Hz.png[img]

...I'm assuming this is another Magnus pic by the text, but the pic isn't working, at least on my end. Just so you're aware.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Duly appointed

[img]https://i.imgur.com/a36I5Hz.png[img]

...I'm assuming this is another Magnus pic by the text, but the pic isn't working, at least on my end. Just so you're aware.

Fixed, bad coding on my part

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Duly appointed

Duly Appointed Pants-soiler of the Tyrest Accord.

I put most of the Magnus armor on the core robot, but left off the chest. Why does this look better than the fully armored robot?

Looks like you've created a new character there

ZeroWolf wrote:Looks like you've created a new character there

Nah. He's talkin' 'bout the manga version of Primus - a golden Rodimus. - nevermind wrong thread

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Looks like you've created a new character there

Nah. He's talkin' 'bout the manga version of Primus - a golden Rodimus. - nevermind wrong thread

Don't worry, happens to us all now and again.

So i secured the Netflix Nemesis Prime, after realizing that I really did like this Nemesis Prime and everything about him. I love this package, it is a lot of fun, and I am very happy to have this mold again. This is my favorite G1 Prime mold, and it makes a good Nemesis. I like it a lot.

I just HATED that Siege voyager Optimus. I found it daff, ugly, and not "cybertronian" at all. Especially compared to the stellar Generations deluxe Optimus form the first WFC game.

But as Nemesis Prime, he's PERFECT. That truck fit to a T and the bot looks menacing. Plus that transformation is very interesting. The only flaw is that those giant smokestacks who came with PotP Evolution OP have nowhere to go in any mode.

Yes I love that Nemesis, it's one of my favorites. Awesome package with all the accessories included with him.
Really the whole Netflix toyline was so excellent. The paint and decos really took a lot of molds to another level. Megatron, Magnus, Hotlink, Scrapface, Army Drone, Cheetor, Impactor. You can't go wrong with any of them.